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Agetec Core	Posted - 2007.11.04 05:33:00 - [1] Edited by: Agetec Core on 04/11/2007 05:35:31 How to pronounce it? I think it should be Tree - Mark But a friend says that its Try - Mark His logic - When Tri is added in front of a word, it becomes Try. Like Tricycle. But in Tricycle's case, a Cycle is like a coating word for what it means. Like Bicycle and unicycles where cycle represents the center design. My logic - Trio. - > Tree- Oh I dont think trimark is 2 words becasue while mark may be a world on its own, its inherent definition dosetn apply here so mark takes on a whole nother meaning thus instead of TryMark, it should be TreeMark much as how you cant seperate the Tri from Trio
Agetec Core	Posted - 2007.11.04 05:37:00 - [2] Also, the same guy said that Quafe is pronouced K-uaf. Whereas I say it sounds like Kua-fee. This is becasue Quafee seems to be a pardoy of Coffee. Quafe. Coffee. Get it?
cal nereus Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.11.04 05:43:00 - [3] I say it's Try-Mark and Kway-f. --- Join BH-DL Skills
Frug Zenithal Harvest	Posted - 2007.11.04 05:49:00 - [4] Originally by: cal nereus I say it's Try-Mark and Kway-f. yeah - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Jurgen Cartis Caldari Interstellar Corporation of Exploration	Posted - 2007.11.04 05:52:00 - [5] Definitely seeing Try-mark, with the short i. -------------------- ICE Blueprint Sales FIRST!! -Yipsilanti Pfft. Never such a thing as a "last chance". ;) -Rauth
Kiviar Caldari Vice-Presidential Action Rangers	Posted - 2007.11.04 06:07:00 - [6] Well to Quaff (kwŏf) is to drink something with great enjoyment. I imagine Quafe is just a play on that seldom used word. --- Forums are what?
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.11.04 06:11:00 - [7] Originally by: cal nereus I say it's Try-Mark and Kway-f. me 2 Originally by: Liz Kali Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking I owned someone on forums!!!
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.11.04 06:42:00 - [8] Edited by: Akita T on 04/11/2007 06:45:10 The good think about Romanian is that you speak the way you spell, and you spell the way you speak it. So, for better or worse, whenever we talk about EVE items, we usually call them exactly as spelled. So... if reading as you spell in English, that would be... "Trimark"->"treemark" and "Quaffe" would be "q.-ah-fe" or somesuch. Well, ok, we still call the drake a "drake" not "draaik-eeh" or however you'd spell it phonetically. _ 1\|2\|3
Dred'Pirate Jesus Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2007.11.04 06:45:00 - [9] Originally by: Agetec Core How to pronounce "TRIMARK" Pronunciation: "I tank better than U" Originally by: David Hackworth ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.11.04 06:46:00 - [10] Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus Originally by: Agetec Core How to pronounce "TRIMARK" Pronunciation: "I tank better than U" Actually, I believe it's pronounced "it takes a couple more seconds to kill me as usual" _ 1\|2\|3

Dred'Pirate Jesus Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2007.11.04 06:48:00 - [11] Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus Originally by: Agetec Core How to pronounce "TRIMARK" Pronunciation: "I tank better than U" Actually, I believe it's pronounced "it takes a couple more seconds to kill me as usual" Only because your a Gankbear.. Originally by: David Hackworth ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
insidion Caldari Last of the Technocracy	Posted - 2007.11.04 06:48:00 - [12] English is a messed up language, but I'd say it's definitely 'try mark', much like the try in 'triangle'. It would be more like 'tree' (more like tre or trih really) if there was a consonant that was doubled after it, such as in 'tripple'. Of course, sometimes we steal words from other languages and yet keep the same rules of pronunciation as in the french origin word 'triage', or as you suggested the french/italian origin word 'trio'. Gotta go with 'kwayfe' too. =)
Jenny Spitfire Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.04 06:49:00 - [13] Are you an American? --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Kali is for KArebearLIng. I 100% agree with Avon. Female EVE gamers? Mail Zajo or visit WGOE.Public in-game.
Adam Weishaupt Minmatar Pyrrhus Sicarii The Church.	Posted - 2007.11.04 06:57:00 - [14] Interesting idea, but default in English is for 'i' to sound like, well, 'i', unlike most of the romance languages where it sounds like our long 'e'.
pinklol	Posted - 2007.11.04 06:59:00 - [15] How does one of the most ******** languages on the Earth become the most dominant? I say we all screw English and learn Finnish instead.
Dred'Pirate Jesus Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2007.11.04 07:02:00 - [16] Originally by: pinklol How does one of the most ****** languages on the Earth become the most dominant? I say we all screw English and learn Finnish instead. Because english is the only language that can easily adapt to describe new ideas and technics.. Try descibing something modern in Mandarin.. Originally by:** David Hackworth ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.11.04 07:15:00 - [17] Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus Because english is the only language that can easily adapt to describe new ideas and technics.. Try descibing something modern in Mandarin. Pfft. The hell it is. English is a crude and inaccurate language, with a lot of confusing spelling rules, double entendres and so on and so forth. It's also not even the most spoken language as number of speakers (and I'm NOT talking native speakers here), Chinese is the first one by far, with Hindi almost on par with English and Spanish a close fourth. Russian is sixth and French barely tenth spot. HOWEVER, you have two big things "going for" the English language... USA and its economic supremacy, and the FORMER colonialistic power of the UK. People learn to speak English because "important" people speak English, so they have to get a way to understand them and make themselves understood. Even German is slightly better as English, and German is quite horrible too. But hey don't get me wrong... if it works, no matter how bad it is... well, it works. _ 1\|2\|3
Dred'Pirate Jesus Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2007.11.04 07:19:00 - [18] Originally by: Akita T ... Originally by: David Hackworth ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.11.04 07:22:00 - [19] Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus Because english is the only language that can easily adapt to describe new ideas and technics.. Try descibing something modern in Mandarin. Pfft. The hell it is. English is a crude and inaccurate language, with a lot of confusing spelling rules, double entendres and so on and so forth. It's also not even the most spoken language as number of speakers (and I'm NOT talking native speakers here), Chinese is the first one by far, with Hindi almost on par with English and Spanish a close fourth. Russian is sixth and French barely tenth spot. HOWEVER, you have two big things "going for" the English language... USA and its economic supremacy, and the FORMER colonialistic power of the UK. People learn to speak English because "important" people speak English, so they have to get a way to understand them and make themselves understood. Even German is slightly better as English, and German is quite horrible too. But hey don't get me wrong... if it works, no matter how bad it is... well, it works. Wait, German? Are you serious? Where the methodology for making a new word is to mash together a half dozen already existant words? I'd put German and Chinese toward the bottom of the list for languages that need to be group friendly and which deal with new or unorthodox concepts. English is a good international language simply because of its flexibility. Which is also its single greatest weakness.
Haffrage Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.11.04 07:24:00 - [20] ITT we whine that english is overpowered and must be nerfed. T2 Tier 2 Battlecruisers \| Eve GUI Tweaks

Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.11.04 07:41:00 - [21] Edited by: Akita T on 04/11/2007 07:41:57 Originally by: Amarria Black Wait, German? Are you serious? Where the methodology for making a new word is to mash together a half dozen already existant words? I'd put German and Chinese toward the bottom of the list for languages that need to be group friendly and which deal with new or unorthodox concepts. Ah, yes, but that "together-mashing" you refer to has a pretty clear logic, and it's not quite mandatory to use that "style" I wouldn't bash German as a counter-point to English bashing if I was you though... the difference between German and English is minimal, TBFH, and I can't understand for the life of me how in hell English native speakers DON'T almost automatically understand German. I "thought" myself German (more or less accidentally) in 7th grade by simply watching German TV shows (there was not much else to watch on TV soon after the "Romanian Revolution", Romanian television was crap, I could never learn Hungarian, CableTV was brand new, and they used to have a SINGLE channel broadcasting subbed movies evenings, all day long before and after it was RTL then Pro7), while having just a basic knowledge of English. Now, the "core" romance languages (Italian, French, Spanish and so on), now that's something else entirely And for how much I hate finno-hungric languages (I never could "get" them, too... "alien"), they have their merits too. _ 1\|2\|3
Dred'Pirate Jesus Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2007.11.04 07:43:00 - [22] Originally by: Amarria Black Wait, German? Indeed.. Ask the Eve German localization team how much fun they had.. Originally by: David Hackworth ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
cal nereus Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.11.04 07:44:00 - [23] Edited by: cal nereus on 04/11/2007 07:45:43 No more than three hundred years ago French was more widely spoken (at least among the learned peoples) than English. It's really a case of the English kicking ass in international politics, warfare, and the economy. That's why English is really popular now. --- Join BH-DL Skills
Dred'Pirate Jesus Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2007.11.04 07:47:00 - [24] Originally by: cal nereus Edited by: cal nereus on 04/11/2007 07:45:43 No more than three hundred years ago French was more widely spoken (at least among the learned peoples) than English. It's really a case of the English kicking ass in international politics, warfare, and the economy. That's why English is really popular now. Meh.. People are riding on english atm because of Curious George W. Chimp and crew.. Originally by: David Hackworth ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
Yerik Locke Caldari The New Order. United Connection's	Posted - 2007.11.04 07:47:00 - [25] Edited by: Yerik Locke on 04/11/2007 07:53:37 Following basic English-reading rules, since no exceptions are implied, really: Trimark -> TRY-mark Triage -> TREE-age [age probably pronounced like "ihj" or "ehj" or a mix, depending on where you're from] Quafe -> kwayf I can understand where the "KWAH-fee" thing might come from, maybe a play on coffee. But it's a soft drink probably more along the lines of the modern "energy drinks," not a more bitter, harsh liquid like coffee is. I don't really see the connection outside the fact that both of the two actually exist. [Quafe being in a virtual way] Aside from that, the English language gives no reason to pronounce "quafe" as "kwah-fee" instead of "kwayf" To me, "kwah-fee" sounds ridiculous, drawn out [not easy to say - bad marketing!] and Boston-accented [not that there's anything wrong with that.] Though if CCP were to say it's pronounced "kwah-fee," I'd go with it. :)
Ather Ialeas Amarr Exercitus Solus	Posted - 2007.11.04 07:48:00 - [26] I usually pronounce "Trimark" as "Try-mark" however afaik it should be pronounced as "tri" (think the word "triangle") and then "mark" with a slight weight on the k so that it doesn't come out as "maar". -
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.11.04 07:54:00 - [27] Originally by: cal nereus Edited by: cal nereus on 04/11/2007 07:45:57 No more than three hundred years ago French was more widely spoken (at least among the learned peoples) than English. It's really a case of the English kicking ass in international trade, politics, and warfare. That's why English is really popular now. And the fact that English assimilates useful words easily. (And it's specifically better suited than French due to counting words. 99 = "four times twenty plus nineteen"... wtf?) If a Mexican came up with a new dish and called it a "calcalo" (AFAIK, a meaningless word, but could be future perfect tense for "to calculate"), the Germans would call it a fifteen syllable word that means "deep fried flour tortilla filled with goat cheese and ground beef". What would English speaking people call it? A calcalo. ^_^
cal nereus Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.11.04 07:58:00 - [28] Good point. I like my English. hugs Look Ma, I'm hugging a language. --- Join BH-DL Skills
Rooker Lysian Enterprises	Posted - 2007.11.04 09:25:00 - [29] Originally by: Agetec Core Also, the same guy said that Quafe is pronouced K-uaf. Whereas I say it sounds like Kua-fee. This is becasue Quafee seems to be a pardoy of Coffee. Quafe. Coffee. Get it? Did anybody else hear "JAFFA! KREE!" in their head when they read that, or was it just me? :( -- Let Us Avoid Systems Via Autopilot
Laura Steel The Chaotic Order Fallout Project	Posted - 2007.11.04 10:04:00 - [30] I dont think there is a big need to pronounce the words perfectly, I kind of like hearing variation when talking to people. :) Quafe - Kwayf to me ;) ----

Stephen HB Mystical Knights Legionnaire Services Ltd.	Posted - 2007.11.04 10:22:00 - [31] Originally by: Akita T Pfft. The hell it is. English is a crude and inaccurate language, with a lot of confusing spelling rules, double entendres and so on and so forth. "English doesn't borrow words from other languages. It chases them down dark alleys and rifles through their pockets for loose grammar" Mark Twain ---------- Guide to character creation by Akita T
Sinder Ohm Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.11.04 10:33:00 - [32] German: DonaudampfschiffahrtsgesellschaftskapitSn (yes that is an actual word ) English: Danube steamship company captain I rest my case *signature removed - please email us to find out why (include a link) - Jacques([email protected])
Jinmie	Posted - 2007.11.04 10:34:00 - [33] Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 04/11/2007 06:45:10 The good think about Romanian is that you speak the way you spell, and you spell the way you speak it. So, for better or worse, whenever we talk about EVE items, we usually call them exactly as spelled. So... if reading as you spell in English, that would be... "Trimark"->"treemark" and "Quaffe" would be "q.-ah-fe" or somesuch. Well, ok, we still call the drake a "drake" not "draaik-eeh" or however you'd spell it phonetically. You're really bad at this English thing.
SentryRaven KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.04 10:37:00 - [34] Me is German. Me not kehr about korrekt pronunciSSStion. Me will pronaunse "triiiiimark" SSnk you! With best regards, SentryRaven KIA Noobship Pilot
Kazuo Ishiguro House of Marbles Zzz	Posted - 2007.11.04 11:01:00 - [35] Originally by: Akita T I wouldn't bash German as a counter-point to English bashing if I was you though... the difference between German and English is minimal, TBFH, and I can't understand for the life of me how in hell English native speakers DON'T almost automatically understand German. I expect that if native English speakers spent as long learning other languages as non-native speakers spend learning English, we'd get by much better. In England, a lot of people don't start learning any other languages until they're 11 and have the option to stop altogether once they turn 14. I didn't, but the only other language I studied at school after I was 16 was latin. That said, there are a lot of (slightly redundant) conventions that English (mostly) doesn't bother with that tend to put people off when encountered in other languages: Verb conjugation Declination of nouns/pronouns Adjectival agreeement Seemingly arbitrary genders for nouns ...to name but a few. My research services Spreadsheets: Top speed calculation - Halo Implant stats
Malcanis High4Life SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.04 11:02:00 - [36] Originally by: pinklol How does one of the most ******** languages on the Earth become the most dominant? I say we all screw English and learn Finnish instead. Short answer: lots of big ships with big guns and smart captains. That's why it's the official language of EvE CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Oniko Sengir Coreli Corporation	Posted - 2007.11.04 11:04:00 - [37] lol
Gauss Belloid Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2007.11.04 11:08:00 - [38] I've got a trilogy of trimarks on my tiephoon!
Hardin Amarr Solar Storm Sev3rance	Posted - 2007.11.04 11:09:00 - [39] Originally by: cal nereus I say it's Try-Mark and Kway-f. This is correct ------------------------------ snip Don't discuss moderation. -Rauth
Malcanis High4Life SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.04 11:09:00 - [40] Originally by: Jinmie Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 04/11/2007 06:45:10 The good think about Romanian is that you speak the way you spell, and you spell the way you speak it. So, for better or worse, whenever we talk about EVE items, we usually call them exactly as spelled. So... if reading as you spell in English, that would be... "Trimark"->"treemark" and "Quaffe" would be "q.-ah-fe" or somesuch. Well, ok, we still call the drake a "drake" not "draaik-eeh" or however you'd spell it phonetically. You're really bad at this English thing. As a (very new) TEFL teacher, I can tell you that Akita's language's model is far more usual than that of English. Our pronunciation "rules" are really just patterns. In fact English has hardly any unbreakable rules, but a huge number of patterns, customs, nuances, etc. Oh, and nearly 1200 irregular verbs. It's one of the easiest languages to make yourself more or less understood in, but one of the hardest to speak very well. Most English people don't speak very good English. Back on topic: as a native English speaker, I would definitely pronounce "Quafe" as 'kwaef' like 'race' or 'trace', and "Trimark" with the 'i' as in 'I remember some of my pronunciation methodology tutorials' CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.

Roy Batty68 Caldari Immortal Dead	Posted - 2007.11.04 11:23:00 - [41] It's definitely Try Mark. Quafe on the other hand. That was supposedly of Galente origin, yeah? And the galente were supposedly french-like. And considering how the french treat their ending vowels, that E is just there for decoration. So it's probably Koof or Cawf or Oof... I, being a normal american english speaker with no regard for rules or any other such bothers, have always pronounced it: Kwah Feh No idea why. Originally by: Big Al Well, if there was a law against stupidity, the server would certainly lag less.
Laura Steel The Chaotic Order Fallout Project	Posted - 2007.11.04 13:15:00 - [42] Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro I expect that if native English speakers spent as long learning other languages as non-native speakers spend learning English, we'd get by much better. In England, a lot of people don't start learning any other languages until they're 11 and have the option to stop altogether once they turn 14. I didn't, but the only other language I studied at school after I was 16 was latin. It depends, At 11 I started with French and Latin, In the second year I had to do French and choose Latin, Spanish or German(I did spanish). At the start of the fourth year you have to do at least one modern language, so if you continued latin you would have do continue one of the 3 modern ones. Years 6 and 7 it's optional. However they are starting to increase the importance of learning languages in schools as it helps these days in business and its a good minor to do in University. ----
KillmAll187 Aliastra	Posted - 2007.11.04 13:15:00 - [43] LOL I rest MY case
Mordok Mataar Minmatar	Posted - 2007.11.04 13:30:00 - [44] Edited by: Mordok Mataar on 04/11/2007 13:29:47 Originally by: KillmAll187 LOL I rest MY case Very few things on the internet actually make me lol in real life, but that was one of them. Awesome.
Leya Marcsson	Posted - 2007.11.04 13:43:00 - [45] What is a Trimark anyway? oO
Kostantin Mort Amarr Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.04 13:51:00 - [46] A Trimark is a rig that increases your armor HP with the usual penalty for armor rigs (i.e. speed decrease). ------ Dei Gloria "God is my shield and protector!"
Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2007.11.04 13:53:00 - [47] Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 04/11/2007 13:53:58 Isn't it time to say "In soviet russia, trimark pronounces you"? Trai-mark and Kweif. Und! In Ze Germany they uze ze quadmark! My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Miriyana Gallente Northern Intelligence Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2007.11.04 13:55:00 - [48] Originally by: KillmAll187 LOL I rest MY case hhahaha!!!! - - - - - - Change just leads to more problems Originally by: CCP Wrangler Oh please no, I've had enough with real world taxes, and dealing with the tax agency. No more taxes!!
Miriyana Gallente Northern Intelligence Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2007.11.04 14:03:00 - [49] btw, Trident - is Try-dent, not Tree-dent. So Trimark is obviously Try-mark. - - - - - - Change just leads to more problems Originally by: CCP Wrangler Oh please no, I've had enough with real world taxes, and dealing with the tax agency. No more taxes!!
Rooker Lysian Enterprises	Posted - 2007.11.04 20:15:00 - [50] Originally by: Mordok Mataar Edited by: Mordok Mataar on 04/11/2007 13:29:47 Originally by: KillmAll187 LOL I rest MY case Very few things on the internet actually make me lol in real life, but that was one of them. Awesome. I know a funnier one... but I don't want to get banned by linking it here -- Let Us Avoid Systems Via Autopilot

Nostejio Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.11.04 20:55:00 - [51] I say we make 1337 the international language. 1337 english ofcourse
Jenny Spitfire Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.04 21:02:00 - [52] I pronounce it as Troi Mahr. --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Kali is for KArebearLIng. I 100% agree with Avon. Female EVE gamers? Mail Zajo or visit WGOE.Public in-game.
Agetec Core	Posted - 2007.11.04 21:05:00 - [53] I win. Punch and pie.
Yadee	Posted - 2007.11.04 21:09:00 - [54] Originally by: Akita T Chinese is the first one by far, with Hindi almost on par with English and Spanish a close fourth. I expected someone as nit pickety and correct as you to know that "chinese" is not a language. They speak a vast amount of different LANGUAGES in china (no, not dialects, but defined as languages) and none of them are particulary high up on the number 1 spoken languages. And spanish is spoken by more people than english as a primary language (though english far outclasses any language as a secondary one)
Miriyana Gallente Northern Intelligence Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2007.11.04 21:27:00 - [55] Originally by: Yadee Originally by: Akita T Chinese is the first one by far, with Hindi almost on par with English and Spanish a close fourth. I expected someone as nit pickety and correct as you to know that "chinese" is not a language. They speak a vast amount of different LANGUAGES in china (no, not dialects, but defined as languages) and none of them are particulary high up on the number 1 spoken languages. And spanish is spoken by more people than english as a primary language (though english far outclasses any language as a secondary one) ZING! - - - - - - Change just leads to more problems Originally by: CCP Wrangler Oh please no, I've had enough with real world taxes, and dealing with the tax agency. No more taxes!!
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2007.11.04 21:37:00 - [56] Originally by: cal nereus I say it's Try-Mark and Kway-f. Pruneface got it right. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Tecam Hund Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.11.04 21:38:00 - [57] How would you pronounce Quafe if it was in French?
MITSUK0	Posted - 2007.11.04 21:45:00 - [58] Trimark. Like triangle, but with 'mark' instead of 'angle'. Trymark :)
Alyth Gallente Ma-Ven Industries Phobos Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.04 21:52:00 - [59] Originally by: Agetec Core Also, the same guy said that Quafe is pronouced K-uaf. Whereas I say it sounds like Kua-fee. This is becasue Quafee seems to be a pardoy of Coffee. Quafe. Coffee. Get it? It is widely known that Americans cannot spell or speak English correctly. As such I feel it is my duty as a native speaker of said language to correct your mistakes. Example. Coffee is neither spelled nor pronounced in any of the following manners. Kawfee, Kwafee or Kafee. It is in fact pronounced Cough-ee. As such Quafe (Kway-f) would never be a parody of such a fictional word. Also it's Try-mark. You don't say tree-angle or tree-dent do you? Why would that be any different?
Taedrin Gallente Magellan Exploration and Survey Rare Faction	Posted - 2007.11.04 21:53:00 - [60] Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus Because english is the only language that can easily adapt to describe new ideas and technics.. Try descibing something modern in Mandarin. Pfft. The hell it is. English is a crude and inaccurate language, with a lot of confusing spelling rules, double entendres and so on and so forth. It's also not even the most spoken language as number of speakers (and I'm NOT talking native speakers here), Chinese is the first one by far, with Hindi almost on par with English and Spanish a close fourth. Russian is sixth and French barely tenth spot. HOWEVER, you have two big things "going for" the English language... USA and its economic supremacy, and the FORMER colonialistic power of the UK. People learn to speak English because "important" people speak English, so they have to get a way to understand them and make themselves understood. Even German is slightly better as English, and German is quite horrible too. But hey don't get me wrong... if it works, no matter how bad it is... well, it works. I only speak English, so I can't speak from experience. But I've read that English has a very rich technical vocabulary compared to other languages, making it the language of choice for programming, at least. Now, being an English speaker, I will be the first to admit that it sucks to learn it. Rules like "I before E except after C, or when sounding in 'ay' as in 'neighbor' and 'weigh'" should not exist, especially if there are over 50 exceptions to that rule (caffeine, weird, their, for example)

Atama Cardel GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.04 22:21:00 - [61] Originally by: cal nereus I say it's Try-Mark and Kway-f. Originally by: Odda hey im a gonnie and i like to sue CCP to gett the game to my favor
EFF ONEF1 Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.04 22:26:00 - [62] I blame MTV. in the end, we should all forgoe english and speak klingon. -----------------------------------------------
hattifnatt Gallente The Movement	Posted - 2007.11.04 22:34:00 - [63] Swedish: Nord÷stersj÷kustartilleriflygspaningssimulatoranlSggningsmaterialunderhsllsuppf÷ljningssystemdiskuss onsinlSggsf÷rberedelsearbeten Longest word i know and i cant be arsed to translate it. i suxz at grammar, k?
Sangxianc Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.11.04 22:37:00 - [64] Edited by: Sangxianc on 04/11/2007 22:43:33 Try-mark. I can't think of any words in English where you'd say tri at the beginning of a word as tree other than trio. Of course I might be missing some but it seems like trio (and any other example I may have missed) is a special case. Also real men learn Latin and Ancient Greek. (edit) Originally by: someone I expected someone as nit pickety and correct as you to know that "chinese" is not a language. They speak a vast amount of different LANGUAGES in china (no, not dialects, but defined as languages) and none of them are particulary high up on the number 1 spoken languages. And spanish is spoken by more people than english as a primary language (though english far outclasses any language as a secondary one) I am almost 100% certain that Mandarin has the highest number of native speakers.
Iyanah Minmatar Native Freshfood	Posted - 2007.11.04 22:40:00 - [65] Originally by: Agetec Core Edited by: Agetec Core on 04/11/2007 05:35:31 How to pronounce it? I think it should be Tree - Mark But a friend says that its Try - Mark His logic - When Tri is added in front of a word, it becomes Try. Like Tricycle. But in Tricycle's case, a Cycle is like a coating word for what it means. Like Bicycle and unicycles where cycle represents the center design. My logic - Trio. - > Tree- Oh I dont think trimark is 2 words becasue while mark may be a world on its own, its inherent definition dosetn apply here so mark takes on a whole nother meaning thus instead of TryMark, it should be TreeMark much as how you cant seperate the Tri from Trio Tree-Mark!? that the?? it's Trimark, tri, as mentioned, like tricicle, like tripple. the word is pronnounced try-mark. ========================================== Wah, Wah, Wah. deal with it.
Bish Ounen Gallente Omni-Core Freedom Fighters Combined Planetary Union	Posted - 2007.11.04 22:47:00 - [66] Edited by: Bish Ounen on 04/11/2007 22:49:20 TRIMARK: pronounced "try-mark". The prefix "tri" is ALWAYS pronounced "try". Period. End of discussion. Quafe: pronounced "kuaff" or "kwaf". This is because the EVE-O drink "Quafe" is a play on the archaic word "quaff" and thusly should be pronounced the same. The Bish has spoken, the thread is now over.
Ashina Sito	Posted - 2007.11.04 22:48:00 - [67] Edited by: Ashina Sito on 04/11/2007 22:49:36 Edited by: Ashina Sito on 04/11/2007 22:49:11 Trimark = Try mark There is a motion picture company named Trimark. It is pronounced as trymark. Never heard anyone pronounce it as Treemark. Quafe = Quaff = kwaf http://www.answers.com/topic/quaff Quaff means to drink. What better name for a product then that. "Quaff Quafe!!" Language be funs stuff!!
Kurt Wulf	Posted - 2007.11.04 22:48:00 - [68] I'm french and i pronunce it "KwafT" and "Tree-Mark". If Quafe is supposed to be from gallentean origin (who are themselves from french origins), i believe it should be "Kwa-fe". As a matter of fact, Quafe is close to the french word "CafT" (or cafe, which means coffee) and as every soft drinks (we're talking about the EVE coca-cola :)), it does likely contains cafein.
Elodie Belanger Moonlight Sonata	Posted - 2007.11.04 23:11:00 - [69] Edited by: Elodie Belanger on 04/11/2007 23:11:26 -whoops Yet all experience is an arch wherethro' Gleams that untravell'd world, whose margin fades For ever and for ever when I move. Tennyson, Ulysses
Sangxianc Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.11.04 23:12:00 - [70] Originally by: Bish Ounen Edited by: Bish Ounen on 04/11/2007 22:49:20 TRIMARK: pronounced "try-mark". The prefix "tri" is ALWAYS pronounced "try". Period. End of discussion. Trilogy. Also I don't know how CCP derived Trimark or whether they intended tri to be the tri- prefix or just the three letters tri (it doesn't always have to be the prefix.) However try-mark is undeniably the most natural way for a native English speaker to pronunce the word.

Bish Ounen Gallente Omni-Core Freedom Fighters Combined Planetary Union	Posted - 2007.11.04 23:21:00 - [71] Originally by: Sangxianc Originally by: Bish Ounen Edited by: Bish Ounen on 04/11/2007 22:49:20 TRIMARK: pronounced "try-mark". The prefix "tri" is ALWAYS pronounced "try". Period. End of discussion. Trilogy. Also I don't know how CCP derived Trimark or whether they intended tri to be the tri- prefix or just the three letters tri (it doesn't always have to be the prefix.) However try-mark is undeniably the most natural way for a native English speaker to pronunce the word. Ok, ya got me on that one. I keep forgetting that there really are no really hard and fast rules in English.
Erim Solfara Amarr House of Solfara	Posted - 2007.11.04 23:23:00 - [72] Originally by: cal nereus I say it's Try-Mark and Kway-f. What he said A new tool in the fight for balance?
Kriz Lupin Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.11.04 23:30:00 - [73] Op has to be a yank. Learn English ffs. They try to teach you it in schools. Its TryMark.
Marine HK4861 Caldari Seoltachd	Posted - 2007.11.05 00:27:00 - [74] Originally by: Sangxianc (edit) Originally by: someone I expected someone as nit pickety and correct as you to know that "chinese" is not a language. They speak a vast amount of different LANGUAGES in china (no, not dialects, but defined as languages) and none of them are particulary high up on the number 1 spoken languages. And spanish is spoken by more people than english as a primary language (though english far outclasses any language as a secondary one) I am almost 100% certain that Mandarin has the highest number of native speakers. Mandarin is the official language of China, but almost everybody learns to speak a local dialect as well. In many cases, this local dialect is learnt first thus making Mandarin really a second 'language'. Technically speaking, all these local languages are dialects (same base language, but have some unique vocabulary and pronunciations), but due to the tonal nature of the Chinese language, they can be classed as separate languages.
VJ Maverick Caldari Maverick Specialized Services	Posted - 2007.11.05 01:30:00 - [75] Edited by: VJ Maverick on 05/11/2007 01:31:17 Originally by: Bish Ounen Originally by: Sangxianc Originally by: Bish Ounen Edited by: Bish Ounen on 04/11/2007 22:49:20 TRIMARK: pronounced "try-mark". The prefix "tri" is ALWAYS pronounced "try". Period. End of discussion. Trilogy. Also I don't know how CCP derived Trimark or whether they intended tri to be the tri- prefix or just the three letters tri (it doesn't always have to be the prefix.) However try-mark is undeniably the most natural way for a native English speaker to pronunce the word. Ok, ya got me on that one. I keep forgetting that there really are no really hard and fast rules in English. No, Bish. You are correct. As a "prefix" to another stand-alone word, the term "tri" is always pronounced "try". Trilogy, is pronounced Tri-logy because in "trilogy", "tri" is NOT a prefix but rather an integral part of the word. The term "logy" as a "study of something" is never used alone. Mark, angle, cycle are all stand-alone words by themselves. Originally by: Bodhisattvas by the way you keep on missing the "a" from pwn, do you need any help with its pl
Naervic Gallente Brotherhood of the Shadows Momentum Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.05 01:47:00 - [76] As your average English speaker I pronounce Trimark as Try Mark... Same as triangle or tricycle. For Quafe... For whatever reason I always thought it was Kwah-fay. A play of the word quaff. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Valorem ([email protected])
Maglorre	Posted - 2007.11.05 02:43:00 - [77] Edited by: Maglorre on 05/11/2007 02:43:56 Just to confuse things more, is it supposed to be tri-mark or trim-ark To be honest, I don't really care how people pronounce things as long as they don't totally butcher the word. The number of people I hear saying Harbringer instead of Harbinger makes me cringe (most of them happen to be American although at least one is Romanian... but I blame the Yanks for polluting his mind) The thing that really bothers me though is all the English only speakers (and I am one) that get on their high horses and start abusing people, for whom English is a second or third language, for grammatical or spelling errors. I feel quite humbled at times listening to corp mates on vent that can speak many languages fluently (the Dutch seem to be particularly multi-lingual). It amazes me at times when there are 3 or 4 people talking and they are switching between English, Dutch and German, often within the same sentence. I, of course, generally have no idea WTF they are talking about.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.11.05 03:07:00 - [78] Edited by: Le Skunk on 05/11/2007 03:12:47 When the Germans or French or Spanish civalise the world as Teh British did in times gone by, Ill start speaking that language. Until then I refuse to taint my mouth with their filthy gobbledy**** and (as I am not totally unreasonable) will simply condescend to shout louder at them if they have difficulty understanding me. Remember - speak VERY LOUDLY and VERY SLOWLEY and they eventual get the message. If they dont then a quick thwack to the back of the head with the London Times often assists. On the flip side, a generous tip after they have completed their task (typically fetching and carrying/holding your parasole/umbrealla etc) - aids them with the carrot element of their training, whilst also steering them from the path of vagabondism. SKUNK
SirMoric	Posted - 2007.11.05 03:10:00 - [79] It's supposed to be pronounced trim-ark....
Leya Marcsson	Posted - 2007.11.05 03:33:00 - [80] Originally by: VJ Maverick As a "prefix" to another stand-alone word, the term "tri" is always pronounced "try". Trilogy, is pronounced Tri-logy because in "trilogy", "tri" is NOT a prefix but rather an integral part of the word. "Tri" in "Trilogy" IS ofcourse a prefix. The direct translation is tri = 3 and logy <= logie <= logia = act, creation. So a Trilogy is a work with 3 acts. Series of 5 works are called Pentalogy,then Tetralogy etc. You see the picture? :)

Caligulus Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.11.05 05:45:00 - [81] Informative 8/10 This thread could have been much worse. IE it could have been about turrets vs. turnets. ...on a related note. I still say the Astarte is pronounced "Ass-tart". ------------------------------------------------- ** Name ONE thing that your windows comp can do that my MAC cant ** Right click.
Lisento Slaven Amarr Capitalism Amuck	Posted - 2007.11.05 05:58:00 - [82] Originally by: Caligulus Informative 8/10 This thread could have been much worse. IE it could have been about turrets vs. turnets. ...on a related note. I still say the Astarte is pronounced "Ass-tart". Try-Mahrk Turr-eht As-tahr-tay I've always pronounce Quafe as Kway-ff. But I can see the Kwah-fay or Kwah-fee pronounciations fitting too. --- Put in space whales!
ED 209 Old Detroit Crime Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.05 06:09:00 - [83] Originally by: cal nereus Edited by: cal nereus on 04/11/2007 07:45:57 No more than three hundred years ago French was more widely spoken (at least among the learned peoples) than English. It's really a case of the English kicking ass in international trade, politics, and warfare. That's why English is really popular now. I'd say its more because of the Internet. Which is probably why the version of english you see in eve is more american english than english english.
ED 209 Old Detroit Crime Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.05 06:16:00 - [84] Originally by: Yadee Originally by: Akita T Chinese is the first one by far, with Hindi almost on par with English and Spanish a close fourth. I expected someone as nit pickety and correct as you to know that "chinese" is not a language. They speak a vast amount of different LANGUAGES in china (no, not dialects, but defined as languages) and none of them are particulary high up on the number 1 spoken languages. And spanish is spoken by more people than english as a primary language (though english far outclasses any language as a secondary one) lol, owned in teh face
Rooker Lysian Enterprises	Posted - 2007.11.05 07:42:00 - [85] Originally by: Alyth It is widely known that Americans cannot spell or speak English correctly. You're doing it wrong. It is widely known that to receive your internet "cool points" for bashing Americans with ignorant, childish insults you have to work Bush into it somehow. Please refer to the "How To Be Cool On The Internet" scorecard that came with your modem. -- Let Us Avoid Systems Via Autopilot
TimMc Skiddies of Doom	Posted - 2007.11.05 07:44:00 - [86] Originally by: cal nereus I say it's Try-Mark and Kway-f. I support this service and/or product.
Andrue Amarr	Posted - 2007.11.05 13:09:00 - [87] Edited by: Andrue on 05/11/2007 13:11:35 Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus Because english is the only language that can easily adapt to describe new ideas and technics.. Try descibing something modern in Mandarin. Pfft. The hell it is. English is a crude and inaccurate language, with a lot of confusing spelling rules, double entendres and so on and so forth. It's also not even the most spoken language as number of speakers (and I'm NOT talking native speakers here), Chinese is the first one by far, with Hindi almost on par with English and Spanish a close fourth. Russian is sixth and French barely tenth spot. HOWEVER, you have two big things "going for" the English language... USA and its economic supremacy, and the FORMER colonialistic power of the UK. People learn to speak English because "important" people speak English, so they have to get a way to understand them and make themselves understood. Even German is slightly better as English, and German is quite horrible too. But hey don't get me wrong... if it works, no matter how bad it is... well, it works. Whilst you're right that in total numbers of people it is not the most popular primary language it is far and away the most common second language. What makes English so successful is that is nearly universal. If an alien decided to visit and could only learn one language they would pick English. No other language has such a universal reach. Speaking Mandarin would mean you could speak to the most people but wouldn't be very useful if you intended to visit all the world's capitals..unless you wanted to rely on a translator. -- (Battle hardened industrialist) [Brackley, UK] My budgie can say "ploppy bottom". You have been warned.
Love DNGD Dark Nebula Gallente Division Dark Nebula Galactic Empire	Posted - 2007.11.05 13:29:00 - [88] Originally by: cal nereus I say it's Try-Mark and Kway-f. What he said.
Banjo String	Posted - 2007.11.05 13:37:00 - [89] Try Mark is what I read
Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2007.11.05 13:46:00 - [90] What if i don't want to try mark? My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.

Malcanis High4Life SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.05 14:05:00 - [91] Originally by: Sangxianc Edited by: Sangxianc on 04/11/2007 22:43:33 Try-mark. I can't think of any words in English where you'd say tri at the beginning of a word as tree other than trio. Of course I might be missing some but it seems like trio (and any other example I may have missed) is a special case. But if there was such a word, you could have it engraved on a little silver disk and wear it as a trinket. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Myra2007	Posted - 2007.11.05 14:22:00 - [92] Edited by: Myra2007 on 05/11/2007 14:24:52 Originally by: Akita T Even German is slightly better as English, and German is quite horrible too. You dissing my language? But seriously German is highly accurate, well structured and has a (though very technical) beauty of its own. Some people just cannot comprehend that which is indeed a pity. Edit: On the topic: For me its also "trymark" and "kwave".
Leya Marcsson	Posted - 2007.11.05 14:31:00 - [93] Edited by: Leya Marcsson on 05/11/2007 14:32:13 Originally by: Rooker You're doing it wrong. It is widely known that to receive your internet "cool points" for bashing Americans with ignorant, childish insults you have to work Bush into it somehow. Americans calling someone ignorant, are always funny. Somehow alike to Stalin calling Roosevelt a communist. Why? Cause, at least your post is ignorant in it self, and even more funny: You (if you are a american) ignore your own heritage. In fact, it is widely know that North-Americans can generaly not spell English very well, for that reason their English is called "American English", because its differ so mutch. The reason for the evolution of the English language in North-America is pirmaly because it has ist mixed up with many, many other languages: Native american languages, european languages (mainly german), asian languages, affrican languages, etc. etc. It would be really supricing if North-Americans would still talk English after hundrets years of beeing influenced by those migrating (or displaced) cultures. So, while bashing americans IS really cool, quite funny and in my opinion exactly what they deserve - Alyth just told you the truth, this time. Have a nice day :)
Karma Gallente Mos Eisley Consortium	Posted - 2007.11.05 14:34:00 - [94] it's pronounced Trim-Arch. as in the opposite of pudgy arch. can we now please move on as a community? _________________ "No Worries" Karma, fool on the hull.
VJ Maverick Caldari Maverick Specialized Services	Posted - 2007.11.05 14:46:00 - [95] Edited by: VJ Maverick on 05/11/2007 14:48:04 Originally by: Leya Marcsson Edited by: Leya Marcsson on 05/11/2007 03:45:36 Originally by: VJ Maverick As a "prefix" to another stand-alone word, the term "tri" is always pronounced "try". Trilogy, is pronounced Tri-logy because in "trilogy", "tri" is NOT a prefix but rather an integral part of the word. "Tri" in "Trilogy" is ofcourse a prefix. The direct translation is tri = 3 and logy <= logie <= logia = act, creation. So a Trilogy is a work with 3 parts. "Pentalogy" and "Tetralogy" are also quite common. You see the picture? :) Ever hear someone use the word "logy" by itself? Logy is not a stand-alone word in the English language. It is HALF a word. That is why every dictionary definition lists it as "-logy", with the hyphen denoting that something MUST precede it. Thus, when "tri" is used to with another stand alone word, it is always pronounced "TRY." And when it's added to half a word such as "-logy", that rule does not apply. My point is not about whether the word tri meets the technical definiton of a prefix. It is about the correct way to pronounce TRIMARK. Get the picture? Originally by: Bodhisattvas by the way you keep on missing the "a" from pwn, do you need any help with its pl
Dan Grobag Caldari Oyster Colors	Posted - 2007.11.05 15:00:00 - [96] I would pronounce trimark as I would pronounce triphase, wich mean for me, like "tree". How would you pronounce this one ?
VJ Maverick Caldari Maverick Specialized Services	Posted - 2007.11.05 15:14:00 - [97] Originally by: Dan Grobag I would pronounce trimark as I would pronounce triphase, wich mean for me, like "tree". How would you pronounce this one ? Triphase is pronounced TRY - Faze. However, a related word "three-phase" is pronounced... well... three-phase.:) Originally by: Bodhisattvas by the way you keep on missing the "a" from pwn, do you need any help with its pl
Occara	Posted - 2007.11.05 15:53:00 - [98] there really should not be any discussion on trimark. the only words that tri is not pronounced try are either borrowed heavily from other languages (triage, which is originally from the greek tria which would have been tree-a then with a bizarre french -ge tacked on; trio, which is stolen from french), or words like trilogy which would just be awkward to say with try as the first syllable. quafe on the other hand... there are many conflicts in how to pronounce it. generally a qua is a kwa sound. that -e throws things off a bit though. there are words like quake, but k is a hard consonant. the qu makes the a want to be an, ah sound, but the e makes it want to be an aye sound... in all honesty, any pronounciation on quafe may be correct because it does not follow any real english word conventions. this suggests it wouldn't be english in origin, and your guess is as good as mine as to what language to use as its base. i do pronounce it the same as quaff in my head though.
The Snowman Gallente Four Rings Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.05 16:15:00 - [99] its most definatly Try-mark. it comes from "triangle" which is also what the word trinity is based on, having three sides. And as much as americans love to mis-pronounce things just to be different Triangle has never been pronounced Tree-angle.. and, lol.
Mini Puce	Posted - 2007.11.05 16:15:00 - [100] And how to pronounce triumvirate ? i guess its try-ooompph-virate

Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2007.11.05 16:16:00 - [101] Originally by: Mini Puce And how to pronounce triumvirate ? i guess its try-ooompph-virate No no, that's try-not amarr-virate My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Corwain Gallente Down In Flames	Posted - 2007.11.05 16:17:00 - [102] Originally by: Leya Marcsson Americans calling someone ignorant, are always funny. Somehow alike to Stalin calling Roosevelt a communist. Why? Cause, at least your post is ignorant in it self, and even more funny: You (if you are a american) ignore your own heritage. In fact, it is widely know that North-Americans can generaly not spell English very well, for that reason their English is called "American English", because its differ so mutch. The reason for the evolution of the English language in North-America is pirmaly because it has ist mixed up with many, many other languages: Native american languages, european languages (mainly german), asian languages, affrican languages, etc. etc. It would be really supricing if North-Americans would still talk English after hundrets years of beeing influenced by those migrating (or displaced) cultures. So, while bashing americans IS really cool, quite funny and in my opinion exactly what they deserve - Alyth just told you the truth, this time. Have a nice day :) No, what is really funny is you misspelling every other word in your post while claiming that Americans can't spell. --
Di Jiensai Gallente Domination. League of Abnormal Gentlemen	Posted - 2007.11.05 16:43:00 - [103] i pronounce it \ˈmȯr\ \ˈSr-mər\.
Topaz Skydiver Minmatar Narrative Freshfood	Posted - 2007.11.05 16:48:00 - [104] Originally by: Laura Steel I dont think there is a big need to pronounce the words perfectly, I kind of like hearing variation when talking to people. :) Quafe - Kwayf to me ;) Already enough variation, if people are reporting hostiles in certain ships on alliance TS. If you have maybe 10 different nationalities on teamspeak and some of them pronounce the stuff like if it was a word from their motherlanguage, then you sometimes need a translator. Player A: 'Hostile is in a huginn.' FC: 'Hmm. What ship is he flying ?' Player A: 'Huginn' Player B: 'What ?' Player A: 'Huginn' Player C: 'Can't understand it either.' Player D: 'He means huginn !' FC: 'Ah, ok' rest: lol Not sure, if it was the huginn though, but people are quite creative with some ship names. --------------------------------------------- snip
Laura Baretta Minmatar Cult of the Skulls	Posted - 2007.11.05 17:31:00 - [105] Edited by: Laura Baretta on 05/11/2007 17:31:45 Caracell incoming! What I find most difficult in listening to english on TS and its various dialects (american english spoken by males easiest to understand, then american females, then Oxford english, then british slang being the most difficult to understand) is, that many letters have a different meaning in different words. Chip or Chimaera In german that is not the case. For example the only germans that would speak a ch as a k would be bavarians, and they are weird people anyway. I heard people say Cara-Cell for Caracal wich would be pronounced karakal. Why can't english adopt the K as a more common starting letter for all its words that start with a hard K like Killer but are written with a C or CH... would make things easier alot allready ;P
Kyra Felann Gallente Red Eye .Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.05 17:35:00 - [106] Edited by: Kyra Felann on 05/11/2007 17:36:02 Originally by: Alyth Originally by: Agetec Core Also, the same guy said that Quafe is pronouced K-uaf. Whereas I say it sounds like Kua-fee. This is becasue Quafee seems to be a pardoy of Coffee. Quafe. Coffee. Get it? It is widely known that Americans cannot spell or speak English correctly. As such I feel it is my duty as a native speaker of said language to correct your mistakes. Example. Coffee is neither spelled nor pronounced in any of the following manners. Kawfee, Kwafee or Kafee. It is in fact pronounced Cough-ee. As such Quafe (Kway-f) would never be a parody of such a fictional word. Also it's Try-mark. You don't say tree-angle or tree-dent do you? Why would that be any different? And it is widely known that British people can't manage to spell things the way they're actually pronounced. We fixed and modernized the language. You're welcome.
Leya Marcsson	Posted - 2007.11.05 18:24:00 - [107] Originally by: Corwain No, what is really funny is you misspelling every other word in your post while claiming that Americans can't spell. Yea :) I am used to be funny, and I am rusian, so english spells me.
VJ Maverick Caldari Maverick Specialized Services	Posted - 2007.11.05 18:31:00 - [108] I'm a Polak living in the US. According to local stereotypes, Polish people do everything backwards. So I guess the proper way to pronounce "trimark" would be maahk-try. Originally by: Bodhisattvas by the way you keep on missing the "a" from pwn, do you need any help with its pl
Yadee	Posted - 2007.11.05 22:40:00 - [109] I found english an easy language to learn. We start leaning english in second grade here in norway, and by 5th grade'ish you speak it more or less fluently. English has a ton of synonyms though, ie big, huge, large, grand, vast, gargantuan, humongous, so its an ideal language for litterature (imo :) ) In my profession almost all the technical terms i use have specific english words, and their translations to norwegian are largely combined words or awkward sounding words Originally by: ED 209 lol, owned in teh face I didnt mean to own anyone, just correcting the discussion Quote: I am almost 100% certain that Mandarin has the highest number of native speakers. I saw a list once of numbers of native speakers and it was something like 1. spanish 2. english 3. ??? 4. ??? 5. mandarin iirc been several years ago though
VJ Maverick Caldari Maverick Specialized Services	Posted - 2007.11.06 00:32:00 - [110] Edited by: VJ Maverick on 06/11/2007 00:31:45 Originally by: Yadee I saw a list once of numbers of native speakers and it was something like 1. spanish 2. english 3. ??? 4. Profit? 5. mandarin iirc been several years ago though Fixed. Originally by: Bodhisattvas by the way you keep on missing the "a" from pwn, do you need any help with its pl

Maglorre	Posted - 2007.11.06 01:13:00 - [111] Originally by: Leya Marcsson Originally by: Corwain No, what is really funny is you misspelling every other word in your post while claiming that Americans can't spell. Yea :) I am used to be funny, and I am rusian, so english spells me. See, this is what I meant. Leya's original post had some mistakes but to me was perfectly understandable. Let's see Corwain write a post in Russian.
Emperor D'Hoffryn No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2007.11.06 01:38:00 - [112] Originally by: Maglorre Originally by: Leya Marcsson Originally by: Corwain No, what is really funny is you misspelling every other word in your post while claiming that Americans can't spell. Yea :) I am used to be funny, and I am rusian, so english spells me. See, this is what I meant. Leya's original post had some mistakes but to me was perfectly understandable. Let's see Corwain write a post in Russian. He can't, its against the forum rules. English is like democracy, its the worst, except for all the others. Originally by: Snuggly It's just so great to have an actual reason to not die, incentive is fantastic!
Maglorre	Posted - 2007.11.06 01:40:00 - [113] Originally by: Emperor D'Hoffryn He can't, its against the forum rules. English is like democracy, its the worst, except for all the others. It doesn't have to be on this forum
Lisento Slaven Amarr Capitalism Amuck	Posted - 2007.11.06 04:34:00 - [114] Originally by: Leya Marcsson Americans calling someone ignorant, are always funny. Somehow alike to Stalin calling Roosevelt a communist. Why? Cause, at least your post is ignorant in it self, and even more funny: You (if you are a american) ignore your own heritage. . . . So, while bashing americans IS really cool, quite funny and in my opinion exactly what they deserve - Alyth just told you the truth, this time. Have a nice day :) And saying things like this is why more hate is introduced to the world. Over generalizations undoubtedly leads to making some people mad. Do not preach to people if it is obviously occurring in your own actions. I am referring to the part where you imply it is funny when an American calls someone ignorant because all Americans are ignorant. Also to the part where outright bashing an entire group of people "is what they deserve" and is "funny." --- Put in space whales!
Rogue 2 Amarr	Posted - 2007.11.06 05:07:00 - [115] Wow. Four pages. Just... wow.
Andrue Amarr	Posted - 2007.11.06 08:17:00 - [116] Originally by: Kyra Felann Edited by: Kyra Felann on 05/11/2007 17:36:02 Originally by: Alyth Originally by: Agetec Core Also, the same guy said that Quafe is pronouced K-uaf. Whereas I say it sounds like Kua-fee. This is becasue Quafee seems to be a pardoy of Coffee. Quafe. Coffee. Get it? It is widely known that Americans cannot spell or speak English correctly. As such I feel it is my duty as a native speaker of said language to correct your mistakes. Example. Coffee is neither spelled nor pronounced in any of the following manners. Kawfee, Kwafee or Kafee. It is in fact pronounced Cough-ee. As such Quafe (Kway-f) would never be a parody of such a fictional word. Also it's Try-mark. You don't say tree-angle or tree-dent do you? Why would that be any different? And it is widely known that British people can't manage to spell things the way they're actually pronounced. We fixed and modernized the language. You're welcome. Nah. Both our countries have modernised over the centuries we just did it differently. It's also debateably whether either of us have 'fixed' the spelling. Given that we pronounce things differently it's unlikely that we'll ever agree :) For instance I think that anywhere outside of North America the phrase "The girl mounted the bouy" could easily be misunderstood But the variety and flexibility of English is what gives it its strength. It'd be nice to have a rigidly defined language but it would be very hard to police across different cultures. The alternative is a language which can absorb and adapt to different cultures. -- (Battle hardened industrialist) [Brackley, UK] My budgie can say "ploppy bottom". You have been warned.
SentryRaven KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.06 09:10:00 - [117] Gentlemen... forget about Trimarks and Caracals. What I find most amusing on OPs is how different people intonate and pronounce system names, among those one of my favorites is Uemisaisen in Caldari space. Hilarious. With best regards, SentryRaven KIA Noobship Pilot
Leya Marcsson	Posted - 2007.11.06 09:56:00 - [118] Edited by: Leya Marcsson on 06/11/2007 10:03:54 Originally by: Lisento Slaven And saying things like this is why more hate is introduced to the world. Over generalizations undoubtedly leads to making some people mad. True. I want to apologize to those north-americans who are not ignorant. To explain why I still think the majority of north-americans are ignorant, is a difficult matter and blast the scope of this forum, but it have something to do with religion, culture and massmedia. In fact it's not a american only problem - ignorance is wide spread this days - and talking about it often leads to ignorance itself. To talk about it in a foreign language is espeacily hard, cause it is hard to express the finer subnotions - resulting in the appearence of a dumb over generalization. Originally by: Andrue For instance I think that anywhere outside of North America the phrase "The girl mounted the bouy" could easily be misunderstood Easily :)What dos it really means? Originally by: Maglorre See, this is what I meant. Leya's original post had some mistakes but to me was perfectly understandable. Let's see Corwain write a post in Russian. Thank you . Originally by: SentryRaven Gentlemen... forget about Trimarks and Caracals. Ship names and System names are espeacily hard, cause many of them are words that are not part of the general everyday vocabulary. What would be really cool to have a phonetic spelling in all Item Descriptions, so that we can teach ourself to pronounce the names correctly. But I see that CCP went the old way to translate all the text's, which is'nt exaclty a good way in my opinion because it make it unposible to talk about items outside your own languages.
Andrue Amarr	Posted - 2007.11.06 14:40:00 - [119] Originally by: Leya Marcsson Originally by: Andrue For instance I think that anywhere outside of North America the phrase "The girl mounted the bouy" could easily be misunderstood Easily :)What dos it really means? As read it just implies a girl climbing onto a piece of marine equipment. Outside of North America, however, 'bouy' is pronounced to rhyme with 'toy'. This why adventurous sea-faring young women rarely rush back to their parents after a day at the sea-side and say that they've been mounting bouys..or at least they only do it once -- (Battle hardened industrialist) [Brackley, UK] My budgie can say "ploppy bottom". You have been warned.
Rogue 2 Amarr	Posted - 2007.11.06 14:50:00 - [120] Originally by: Leya Marcsson I want to apologize to those north-americans who are not ignorant. You don't need to apologize for speaking the truth. THe majority of Americans (can't speak for Canadians) *are* ignorant, a fact we're reminded of daily by our leadership . (And yes, religion has a lot to do with it) PS Leya, your English is better than many Americans'. Good job.



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