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Starbuck Venus	Posted - 2007.11.04 23:23:00 - [1] Hi, It's nice to have "Right Kills" when we are killed and /or podded but I remarked there is a non sens or illogical for a pve player to have a "right kill" against pvp players (more the time there are 4 to 20) who each time he/they got you very easy? I see on the "game", there is NOT vessel(s) against those ANY "Pirates" (yellow) and/or -5 to -10 security status (red flashing)? Why to have "right kill(s)" when we know there is impossible to got them with a simple pve vessel versus these pvp full T2 vessels: more the time we are alone versus minimum 2,4 or 10 at 20, when 25 campers or spamers are at low sec Stargate(s)? Why agents send us in low sec on any missions and storyline for some bucks 50k reward + 95k collateral dammages and lost a pve vessel Raven with full T2 and 3 riggs + 5 implants +4 and 5 implants who give me + 5% shield tank and lost 1 billion isk materials for few bucks? The differents is enormeous and unballanced between reward, bonnus and ship value! Why it don't exist a "Bounty Hunter" vessel for to do only a hunter for to find, hunt and pursuit them for to kill them too? Exemple: A vessel bewteen a Battleship and a Carrier who can use Stargates ans Cyno (Vortex) for his jumps? Or best then a frigate but hard like a Dread or Titan? The weapons, 2, 4 to 8 with 4, 6 to 8 targets locks, of this "Bounty Hunter" vessel will be Photons cannons and each hit will be 1,000 hp or more for this "special weapon" only mounted on a "Bounty Hunter" vessel and no one other existing vessels in the game? Why it don't exist this sort of vessel who can resist itself against 5 yellow and 6 red flashing pirates T2 vessel and 20 or 25 Carrier, Commandship, Dread, Titan if there are Pirates? Else, they will win everytime if no bounty hunter vessel will exist? They are very easy to be 2, 4 or 6 "pirates" pvp players camping a stargate in low sec against a simple pve player who make only poor agents missions in low sec... You do to give a chance to that pve player for to can release his "Right Kill" else, no way! I want to be the first "Bounty Hunter" with this "special" ship for to hunt and to pursuit them for they are scarying and they move from one camping to another else they will be "KILLED"! Also, pve players can call the "Bounty Hunter" service if they are a "Right Kill" for to find, hunt and kill the "Pirate" who killed and podded him! I mean this will give another face of the game when the Bounty know that there is a Bounty Hunter at their fat ass! :D Egidio.
Curzon Dax Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.04 23:28:00 - [2] First I was going to write tldr. Then I read it. And realized that you're whining about not having the ability to PvP with pvP players because you don't know what guns are. Or something. Then I see that you're complaining about getting blobbed by pvPers. Then something about you not having friends to fight back. lastly something about you wanting an uber ship that will kill them all. Sound about right?
Speed Addict	Posted - 2007.11.04 23:32:00 - [3] /signed i want a ship aswell that can instablast gatecampers away - - - Hi Speed Devil You are receiving this notice to inform you that your posting privileges have now been permanently terminated. now don't blame me for altposting :(
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2007.11.04 23:36:00 - [4] Originally by: Curzon Dax First I was going to write tldr. Then I read it. And realized that you're whining about not having the ability to PvP with pvP players because you don't know what guns are. Or something. Then I see that you're complaining about getting blobbed by pvPers. Then something about you not having friends to fight back. lastly something about you wanting an uber ship that will kill them all. Sound about right? you said it before i could although killrights are somewhat borked as someone who is -5 or below wont have a care in the world about their killrights. unless they plan on getting back up in sec status rather soon
Starbuck Venus	Posted - 2007.11.04 23:46:00 - [5] Edited by: Starbuck Venus on 04/11/2007 23:51:53 Edited by: Starbuck Venus on 04/11/2007 23:51:12 Sorry, forgot that I made 20 missions and go on low sec more than 20 times, crossed yellow pirates and red flashing pirates but they never "aggro" me? More the time, they are alone, perhaps some are cloacked and waiting that I lock and fire first... But never begining the aggro. Here, I know, It's in the game, but after some jumps in low sec, on 0.4, bypassed the stargate, 4 red flashing aggro me and fired without tell me something? I opened the fire on one too, my 6 torpedoes make 5% dammage the first fire and only 1% dammages after the first shots? They hit me 5% only on me their first shots, had x-large booster T2 on, after, they got me 25% hp on each missile hit???? They killed and podded me in 1 minute or 2 minutes maximum? I don't understand how they can do it insteed npc does to fire more and more without blow out my shield: npc remove only 10% of my shield also when they are 20 npc ships or 10 BS in level 4 missions? Some stuffs are very strange? Why 1 pve player can NOT survive instead 2 or more pvp players when he is a "Lone Wolf" for playing alone for the fun? It's time to create a "Bounty Hunter" category for the "Lone Wolf" for he have more fun to hunt "Pirates" anywhere on Eve universe! Egidio.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2007.11.04 23:50:00 - [6] troll or complete misunderstanding of how the game works?
Starbuck Venus	Posted - 2007.11.05 00:00:00 - [7] Edited by: Starbuck Venus on 05/11/2007 00:01:00 Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton troll or complete misunderstanding of how the game works? Please, stay polite: I am polite, I don't typed name(s) to someone, my teachers never learned me your bad side of your language! And, you don't know me in real life, and I don't know you too: I am polite with all people on any games online because I don't know them and I don't want they are a bad idea of I! This, you weel understund? Egidio. <--- This is my real firstname in real life!
Kehmor Caldari PAK	Posted - 2007.11.05 00:00:00 - [8] I was gonna flame you but with all the "one less" posts about this actually came across as a reasonable and well though out arguement. The Movement is recruiting!
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2007.11.05 00:03:00 - [9] note npc ravens shoot 1 torp at a time, player ravens shoot 6 tanking a level 4 is like tanking 1 player..... hence why ganking works so well on npcerers and if i wanted to call names i would have called you a noob
Starbuck Venus	Posted - 2007.11.05 00:10:00 - [10] Edited by: Starbuck Venus on 05/11/2007 00:15:17 Edited by: Starbuck Venus on 05/11/2007 00:14:03 Edited by: Starbuck Venus on 05/11/2007 00:11:40 Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton note npc ravens shoot 1 torp at a time, player ravens shoot 6 tanking a level 4 is like tanking 1 player..... hence why ganking works so well on npcerers and if i wanted to call names i would have called you a noob I say: "PVP players CAN'T FIGHT single PVE player: the differents are enormeous! Or agents never send pve players in low sec for stupids storyline missions or other normal missions!". If each time I do to cancel each mission on low sec, I shall lost more standing than I got! Remove missions in low sec for alone pve player. Enough said! Egidio. PS. There is NOT restricted foul language by Admin(s) here? Poor beautyful game!
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2007.11.05 00:19:00 - [11] you can see what the mission is and turn it down without standnigs loss before you accept it....
Starbuck Venus	Posted - 2007.11.05 00:21:00 - [12] Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton you can see what the mission is and turn it down without standnigs loss before you accept it.... No way: I do to wait 4 hours before to cancel the next unwanted mission in low sec else, I lost standing by 0.10 to 0.20? Egidio.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2007.11.05 00:23:00 - [13] use more than 1 agent? :( its a shame i havent gotten to kill you yet
Starbuck Venus	Posted - 2007.11.05 00:32:00 - [14] Edited by: Starbuck Venus on 05/11/2007 00:33:41 Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton use more than 1 agent? :( its a shame i havent gotten to kill you yet Can find me in Mara, Passari and Aunemen easely... But not for the moment: no more low sec now, thanks stupids agents! Egidio.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2007.11.05 00:33:00 - [15] okay, then will you help me with one of my missions <insertloftygif>
Starbuck Venus	Posted - 2007.11.05 00:38:00 - [16] Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton okay, then will you help me with one of my missions <insertloftygif> Yes, if you need me in gang for your level 3 and 4 hard missions: I am your "man". Egidio.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2007.11.05 00:39:00 - [17] cool, if missions were a bit harder i might need the help
Galan Amarias Amarr Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.11.05 00:40:00 - [18] Starbuck, You are overreacing. You get a low sec warning when a mission is going to sendyou into low sec. Once that happens you should take some simple precatuions. First pull up your starmap and set it to show ships destroyed within the last 30 minutes. A succesful gate camp will make the system glow brightly, though you should not assume a system which is not glowing will be safe. Second, you should never, ever shoot back. If you Fit a MWD and tank up, you should be able to get a raven with a solid tank back through the gate well before your tank breaks. You should also take a shuttle through before you fly in with an expensive ship. As you fly through use your scanner to see if many player ships are near the gate. That would be your clue to not fly in with the very expensive ship. Finally you can switch con\tacts to one farther into empire who will not send you to low sec. The money and rewards won't be as good I'm told but you should accept that as the price for safty. If you can't accept that, then either travel fit your raven with numerous warp core stabalizers in your lows and a MWD and Tank only in Mids, or have a seccond cheaper raven pre positioned in the low sec system at a station. That way you can run past the camp, refit in the station and then undock and do your mission. If they camp you into the station, well then you redock and ask if you can pay to be allowed out, or come here to the forrums and read about PVP. You will never, ever get the super death ship you want. It would be grosely unbalanced. You already have all the tools you need to avoid a gate camp. If you want to break one instead you can use your pve skills to fit a pvp ship, get several friends, also well fit, and go give the camp a fight. You will probably have the most success with a bait and then attack plan as they will likely have scouts to avoid your blob. Instead of trying to solve your problems with requests for new game mechanics or a magic I win button, try to use the existing tools, its am MMO one of the tools is to group up with other players. -Galan The answer to empire ganking
Starbuck Venus	Posted - 2007.11.05 00:47:00 - [19] Edited by: Starbuck Venus on 05/11/2007 00:49:42 Edited by: Starbuck Venus on 05/11/2007 00:47:06 Thanks for the tips: never see the glow brightly on camped stargates on the map: I shall pay attentions next fly. Egidio.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2007.11.05 01:14:00 - [20] Originally by: Galan Amarias Starbuck, You are overreacing. You get a low sec warning when a mission is going to sendyou into low sec. Once that happens you should take some simple precatuions. First pull up your starmap and set it to show ships destroyed within the last 30 minutes. A succesful gate camp will make the system glow brightly, though you should not assume a system which is not glowing will be safe. Second, you should never, ever shoot back. If you Fit a MWD and tank up, you should be able to get a raven with a solid tank back through the gate well before your tank breaks. You should also take a shuttle through before you fly in with an expensive ship. As you fly through use your scanner to see if many player ships are near the gate. That would be your clue to not fly in with the very expensive ship. Finally you can switch con\tacts to one farther into empire who will not send you to low sec. The money and rewards won't be as good I'm told but you should accept that as the price for safty. If you can't accept that, then either travel fit your raven with numerous warp core stabalizers in your lows and a MWD and Tank only in Mids, or have a seccond cheaper raven pre positioned in the low sec system at a station. That way you can run past the camp, refit in the station and then undock and do your mission. If they camp you into the station, well then you redock and ask if you can pay to be allowed out, or come here to the forrums and read about PVP. You will never, ever get the super death ship you want. It would be grosely unbalanced. You already have all the tools you need to avoid a gate camp. If you want to break one instead you can use your pve skills to fit a pvp ship, get several friends, also well fit, and go give the camp a fight. You will probably have the most success with a bait and then attack plan as they will likely have scouts to avoid your blob. Instead of trying to solve your problems with requests for new game mechanics or a magic I win button, try to use the existing tools, its am MMO one of the tools is to group up with other players. -Galan first point i already said, but i guess it needs repeating from more than just me hopefully the camp has enough webs and you dont get back to the gate in a battleship. although you can almost always scout it in a shuttle, (oh you said that doh) and yes a gang of ravens should be able to take out alot of camps, especially with the help of sentries
Starbuck Venus Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2007.11.05 01:30:00 - [21] Sorry for making repeating you: to read the last 410 pages is hard to make in few minutes. But thanks again to help me on some Eve stuffs. Egidio.
Darkopteron A Black Knight Corp FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.05 01:40:00 - [22] You have a small vessel. You want a special ship to take them up the vortex.
Starbuck Venus Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2007.11.05 01:46:00 - [23] Edited by: Starbuck Venus on 05/11/2007 01:46:35 They was in 3 Muninn and 1 Huginn "Minmataar" ships T2. Will be hard to explode them alone... Egidio.
Ernesto Hoost	Posted - 2007.11.05 03:29:00 - [24] Originally by: Starbuck Venus Edited by: Starbuck Venus on 05/11/2007 01:46:35 They was in 3 Muninn and 1 Huginn "Minmataar" ships T2. Will be hard to explode them alone... Egidio. A blaster mega would eat them all alive solo, especially if they were under sentry fire. Muninns and Huginns are not known for their tanking ability. PS..use a scout when jumping a slow BS into low sec
iiOs Blood Corsair's Blood Blind	Posted - 2007.11.05 05:18:00 - [25] me like food
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.11.05 05:23:00 - [26] I like pie Mainly because the cake is a lie Originally by: Liz Kali Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking I owned someone on forums!!!
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2007.11.05 05:30:00 - [27] Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny I like pie Mainly because the cake is a lie the cake is the best lie but that doesn't save it from pie and i try to be helpful but sometimes I'm not the best at explaining things,
MaxSkywalker Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2007.11.05 05:52:00 - [28] Your english teacher should kick you in the nuts! Regards MaxSkywalker *x13*
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2007.11.05 06:03:00 - [29] Originally by: MaxSkywalker Your english teacher should kick you in the nuts! yea probably..... then again if i took more than 30 seconds to write out my posts it might look different.
Temp Boi Gr0und Zer0	Posted - 2007.11.05 07:05:00 - [30] With all due respect, this is the stupidest ******* thing i've ever heard in my life. From what I could understand through the immense blocks of babelfish translated text, if an idea like this was implemented, I would climb feet first into an industrial paper shredder. If PVE'ers want to take on PVP'ers, they can get their asses into PVP ships and fight fire with fire, that's how the game works. No "LOLSLOLSOLOSL IR BOUNTAYHUNTAR AN I HAEV LEIK TEH BIG VESSAL WIF TEH BIG DAMAGEZ N STUFZ UR DED LULZ KTHXBAI".The only way a single person can take on camps in which people who you have "Right Kills" on is through use of superior tactics, superior ships, superior fittings, or superior skills. Just because you play on the benevolent side of the game, that doesn't entitle you to advantages. Continue mining and missioning, or fight back; take your pick.

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