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Starbuck Venus	Posted - 2007.11.04 23:23:00 - [1] Hi, It's nice to have "Right Kills" when we are killed and /or podded but I remarked there is a non sens or illogical for a pve player to have a "right kill" against pvp players (more the time there are 4 to 20) who each time he/they got you very easy? I see on the "game", there is NOT vessel(s) against those ANY "Pirates" (yellow) and/or -5 to -10 security status (red flashing)? Why to have "right kill(s)" when we know there is impossible to got them with a simple pve vessel versus these pvp full T2 vessels: more the time we are alone versus minimum 2,4 or 10 at 20, when 25 campers or spamers are at low sec Stargate(s)? Why agents send us in low sec on any missions and storyline for some bucks 50k reward + 95k collateral dammages and lost a pve vessel Raven with full T2 and 3 riggs + 5 implants +4 and 5 implants who give me + 5% shield tank and lost 1 billion isk materials for few bucks? The differents is enormeous and unballanced between reward, bonnus and ship value! Why it don't exist a "Bounty Hunter" vessel for to do only a hunter for to find, hunt and pursuit them for to kill them too? Exemple: A vessel bewteen a Battleship and a Carrier who can use Stargates ans Cyno (Vortex) for his jumps? Or best then a frigate but hard like a Dread or Titan? The weapons, 2, 4 to 8 with 4, 6 to 8 targets locks, of this "Bounty Hunter" vessel will be Photons cannons and each hit will be 1,000 hp or more for this "special weapon" only mounted on a "Bounty Hunter" vessel and no one other existing vessels in the game? Why it don't exist this sort of vessel who can resist itself against 5 yellow and 6 red flashing pirates T2 vessel and 20 or 25 Carrier, Commandship, Dread, Titan if there are Pirates? Else, they will win everytime if no bounty hunter vessel will exist? They are very easy to be 2, 4 or 6 "pirates" pvp players camping a stargate in low sec against a simple pve player who make only poor agents missions in low sec... You do to give a chance to that pve player for to can release his "Right Kill" else, no way! I want to be the first "Bounty Hunter" with this "special" ship for to hunt and to pursuit them for they are scarying and they move from one camping to another else they will be "KILLED"! Also, pve players can call the "Bounty Hunter" service if they are a "Right Kill" for to find, hunt and kill the "Pirate" who killed and podded him! I mean this will give another face of the game when the Bounty know that there is a Bounty Hunter at their fat ass! :D Egidio.
Curzon Dax Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.04 23:28:00 - [2] First I was going to write tldr. Then I read it. And realized that you're whining about not having the ability to PvP with pvP players because you don't know what guns are. Or something. Then I see that you're complaining about getting blobbed by pvPers. Then something about you not having friends to fight back. lastly something about you wanting an uber ship that will kill them all. Sound about right?
Speed Addict	Posted - 2007.11.04 23:32:00 - [3] /signed i want a ship aswell that can instablast gatecampers away - - - Hi Speed Devil You are receiving this notice to inform you that your posting privileges have now been permanently terminated. now don't blame me for altposting :(
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2007.11.04 23:36:00 - [4] Originally by: Curzon Dax First I was going to write tldr. Then I read it. And realized that you're whining about not having the ability to PvP with pvP players because you don't know what guns are. Or something. Then I see that you're complaining about getting blobbed by pvPers. Then something about you not having friends to fight back. lastly something about you wanting an uber ship that will kill them all. Sound about right? you said it before i could although killrights are somewhat borked as someone who is -5 or below wont have a care in the world about their killrights. unless they plan on getting back up in sec status rather soon
Starbuck Venus	Posted - 2007.11.04 23:46:00 - [5] Edited by: Starbuck Venus on 04/11/2007 23:51:53 Edited by: Starbuck Venus on 04/11/2007 23:51:12 Sorry, forgot that I made 20 missions and go on low sec more than 20 times, crossed yellow pirates and red flashing pirates but they never "aggro" me? More the time, they are alone, perhaps some are cloacked and waiting that I lock and fire first... But never begining the aggro. Here, I know, It's in the game, but after some jumps in low sec, on 0.4, bypassed the stargate, 4 red flashing aggro me and fired without tell me something? I opened the fire on one too, my 6 torpedoes make 5% dammage the first fire and only 1% dammages after the first shots? They hit me 5% only on me their first shots, had x-large booster T2 on, after, they got me 25% hp on each missile hit???? They killed and podded me in 1 minute or 2 minutes maximum? I don't understand how they can do it insteed npc does to fire more and more without blow out my shield: npc remove only 10% of my shield also when they are 20 npc ships or 10 BS in level 4 missions? Some stuffs are very strange? Why 1 pve player can NOT survive instead 2 or more pvp players when he is a "Lone Wolf" for playing alone for the fun? It's time to create a "Bounty Hunter" category for the "Lone Wolf" for he have more fun to hunt "Pirates" anywhere on Eve universe! Egidio.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2007.11.04 23:50:00 - [6] troll or complete misunderstanding of how the game works?
Starbuck Venus	Posted - 2007.11.05 00:00:00 - [7] Edited by: Starbuck Venus on 05/11/2007 00:01:00 Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton troll or complete misunderstanding of how the game works? Please, stay polite: I am polite, I don't typed name(s) to someone, my teachers never learned me your bad side of your language! And, you don't know me in real life, and I don't know you too: I am polite with all people on any games online because I don't know them and I don't want they are a bad idea of I! This, you weel understund? Egidio. <--- This is my real firstname in real life!
Kehmor Caldari PAK	Posted - 2007.11.05 00:00:00 - [8] I was gonna flame you but with all the "one less" posts about this actually came across as a reasonable and well though out arguement. The Movement is recruiting!
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2007.11.05 00:03:00 - [9] note npc ravens shoot 1 torp at a time, player ravens shoot 6 tanking a level 4 is like tanking 1 player..... hence why ganking works so well on npcerers and if i wanted to call names i would have called you a noob
Starbuck Venus	Posted - 2007.11.05 00:10:00 - [10] Edited by: Starbuck Venus on 05/11/2007 00:15:17 Edited by: Starbuck Venus on 05/11/2007 00:14:03 Edited by: Starbuck Venus on 05/11/2007 00:11:40 Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton note npc ravens shoot 1 torp at a time, player ravens shoot 6 tanking a level 4 is like tanking 1 player..... hence why ganking works so well on npcerers and if i wanted to call names i would have called you a noob I say: "PVP players CAN'T FIGHT single PVE player: the differents are enormeous! Or agents never send pve players in low sec for stupids storyline missions or other normal missions!". If each time I do to cancel each mission on low sec, I shall lost more standing than I got! Remove missions in low sec for alone pve player. Enough said! Egidio. PS. There is NOT restricted foul language by Admin(s) here? Poor beautyful game!
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2007.11.05 00:19:00 - [11] you can see what the mission is and turn it down without standnigs loss before you accept it....
Starbuck Venus	Posted - 2007.11.05 00:21:00 - [12] Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton you can see what the mission is and turn it down without standnigs loss before you accept it.... No way: I do to wait 4 hours before to cancel the next unwanted mission in low sec else, I lost standing by 0.10 to 0.20? Egidio.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2007.11.05 00:23:00 - [13] use more than 1 agent? :( its a shame i havent gotten to kill you yet
Starbuck Venus	Posted - 2007.11.05 00:32:00 - [14] Edited by: Starbuck Venus on 05/11/2007 00:33:41 Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton use more than 1 agent? :( its a shame i havent gotten to kill you yet Can find me in Mara, Passari and Aunemen easely... But not for the moment: no more low sec now, thanks stupids agents! Egidio.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2007.11.05 00:33:00 - [15] okay, then will you help me with one of my missions <insertloftygif>
Starbuck Venus	Posted - 2007.11.05 00:38:00 - [16] Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton okay, then will you help me with one of my missions <insertloftygif> Yes, if you need me in gang for your level 3 and 4 hard missions: I am your "man". Egidio.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2007.11.05 00:39:00 - [17] cool, if missions were a bit harder i might need the help
Galan Amarias Amarr Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.11.05 00:40:00 - [18] Starbuck, You are overreacing. You get a low sec warning when a mission is going to sendyou into low sec. Once that happens you should take some simple precatuions. First pull up your starmap and set it to show ships destroyed within the last 30 minutes. A succesful gate camp will make the system glow brightly, though you should not assume a system which is not glowing will be safe. Second, you should never, ever shoot back. If you Fit a MWD and tank up, you should be able to get a raven with a solid tank back through the gate well before your tank breaks. You should also take a shuttle through before you fly in with an expensive ship. As you fly through use your scanner to see if many player ships are near the gate. That would be your clue to not fly in with the very expensive ship. Finally you can switch con\tacts to one farther into empire who will not send you to low sec. The money and rewards won't be as good I'm told but you should accept that as the price for safty. If you can't accept that, then either travel fit your raven with numerous warp core stabalizers in your lows and a MWD and Tank only in Mids, or have a seccond cheaper raven pre positioned in the low sec system at a station. That way you can run past the camp, refit in the station and then undock and do your mission. If they camp you into the station, well then you redock and ask if you can pay to be allowed out, or come here to the forrums and read about PVP. You will never, ever get the super death ship you want. It would be grosely unbalanced. You already have all the tools you need to avoid a gate camp. If you want to break one instead you can use your pve skills to fit a pvp ship, get several friends, also well fit, and go give the camp a fight. You will probably have the most success with a bait and then attack plan as they will likely have scouts to avoid your blob. Instead of trying to solve your problems with requests for new game mechanics or a magic I win button, try to use the existing tools, its am MMO one of the tools is to group up with other players. -Galan The answer to empire ganking
Starbuck Venus	Posted - 2007.11.05 00:47:00 - [19] Edited by: Starbuck Venus on 05/11/2007 00:49:42 Edited by: Starbuck Venus on 05/11/2007 00:47:06 Thanks for the tips: never see the glow brightly on camped stargates on the map: I shall pay attentions next fly. Egidio.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2007.11.05 01:14:00 - [20] Originally by: Galan Amarias Starbuck, You are overreacing. You get a low sec warning when a mission is going to sendyou into low sec. Once that happens you should take some simple precatuions. First pull up your starmap and set it to show ships destroyed within the last 30 minutes. A succesful gate camp will make the system glow brightly, though you should not assume a system which is not glowing will be safe. Second, you should never, ever shoot back. If you Fit a MWD and tank up, you should be able to get a raven with a solid tank back through the gate well before your tank breaks. You should also take a shuttle through before you fly in with an expensive ship. As you fly through use your scanner to see if many player ships are near the gate. That would be your clue to not fly in with the very expensive ship. Finally you can switch con\tacts to one farther into empire who will not send you to low sec. The money and rewards won't be as good I'm told but you should accept that as the price for safty. If you can't accept that, then either travel fit your raven with numerous warp core stabalizers in your lows and a MWD and Tank only in Mids, or have a seccond cheaper raven pre positioned in the low sec system at a station. That way you can run past the camp, refit in the station and then undock and do your mission. If they camp you into the station, well then you redock and ask if you can pay to be allowed out, or come here to the forrums and read about PVP. You will never, ever get the super death ship you want. It would be grosely unbalanced. You already have all the tools you need to avoid a gate camp. If you want to break one instead you can use your pve skills to fit a pvp ship, get several friends, also well fit, and go give the camp a fight. You will probably have the most success with a bait and then attack plan as they will likely have scouts to avoid your blob. Instead of trying to solve your problems with requests for new game mechanics or a magic I win button, try to use the existing tools, its am MMO one of the tools is to group up with other players. -Galan first point i already said, but i guess it needs repeating from more than just me hopefully the camp has enough webs and you dont get back to the gate in a battleship. although you can almost always scout it in a shuttle, (oh you said that doh) and yes a gang of ravens should be able to take out alot of camps, especially with the help of sentries
Starbuck Venus Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2007.11.05 01:30:00 - [21] Sorry for making repeating you: to read the last 410 pages is hard to make in few minutes. But thanks again to help me on some Eve stuffs. Egidio.
Darkopteron A Black Knight Corp FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.05 01:40:00 - [22] You have a small vessel. You want a special ship to take them up the vortex.
Starbuck Venus Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2007.11.05 01:46:00 - [23] Edited by: Starbuck Venus on 05/11/2007 01:46:35 They was in 3 Muninn and 1 Huginn "Minmataar" ships T2. Will be hard to explode them alone... Egidio.
Ernesto Hoost	Posted - 2007.11.05 03:29:00 - [24] Originally by: Starbuck Venus Edited by: Starbuck Venus on 05/11/2007 01:46:35 They was in 3 Muninn and 1 Huginn "Minmataar" ships T2. Will be hard to explode them alone... Egidio. A blaster mega would eat them all alive solo, especially if they were under sentry fire. Muninns and Huginns are not known for their tanking ability. PS..use a scout when jumping a slow BS into low sec
iiOs Blood Corsair's Blood Blind	Posted - 2007.11.05 05:18:00 - [25] me like food
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.11.05 05:23:00 - [26] I like pie Mainly because the cake is a lie Originally by: Liz Kali Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking I owned someone on forums!!!
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2007.11.05 05:30:00 - [27] Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny I like pie Mainly because the cake is a lie the cake is the best lie but that doesn't save it from pie and i try to be helpful but sometimes I'm not the best at explaining things,
MaxSkywalker Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2007.11.05 05:52:00 - [28] Your english teacher should kick you in the nuts! Regards MaxSkywalker *x13*
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2007.11.05 06:03:00 - [29] Originally by: MaxSkywalker Your english teacher should kick you in the nuts! yea probably..... then again if i took more than 30 seconds to write out my posts it might look different.
Temp Boi Gr0und Zer0	Posted - 2007.11.05 07:05:00 - [30] With all due respect, this is the stupidest ******* thing i've ever heard in my life. From what I could understand through the immense blocks of babelfish translated text, if an idea like this was implemented, I would climb feet first into an industrial paper shredder. If PVE'ers want to take on PVP'ers, they can get their asses into PVP ships and fight fire with fire, that's how the game works. No "LOLSLOLSOLOSL IR BOUNTAYHUNTAR AN I HAEV LEIK TEH BIG VESSAL WIF TEH BIG DAMAGEZ N STUFZ UR DED LULZ KTHXBAI".The only way a single person can take on camps in which people who you have "Right Kills" on is through use of superior tactics, superior ships, superior fittings, or superior skills. Just because you play on the benevolent side of the game, that doesn't entitle you to advantages. Continue mining and missioning, or fight back; take your pick.
Niffetin Gallente CONsordium Infinate	Posted - 2007.11.05 08:52:00 - [31] Stupid trolls... WTS: Armageddon / Void L / Mobile Large Warp Disruptor
Arekhon Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2007.11.05 08:57:00 - [32] "wrong kills" "Where are you guys going in your battleships?" "We are going to camp in Amamake; kill 500 carebears and 1 NPC" "Why are you gonna kill an NPC?" "See, nobody cares about the carebears!" [BEES]
Ja'kar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.11.05 09:09:00 - [33] Perkone Question happens when the pirates get hold of the bounty ship?
PMolkenthin Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.11.05 11:17:00 - [34] Stop saying "Right Kills"
General Hawke Caldari DMC Inc. Fang Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.05 11:21:00 - [35] ok first off, "blink reds" can be shot anywhere at any time. So, if you can bait them to a gate while they are taking sentry fire, when you have friends of course, there are many ways you can hurt them. It isn't really all that hard and most pve players already have the necessary skills to PvP. There is no need to create OMGINHMR(OhMyGodI'mNubHearMeRoar) "bounty hunter" ships. Now the hiring of a service? They are called Mercs, and already in-game. So, go get some isk and buy some... If you can't handle yourself individually or as a corp/alliance in low-sec don't go there. Simple as that. Don't come in here and whine about it, I don't think you need a ship like that, just some balls. Get some friends, get some ships, the more expensive the better, and then go to low sec and play with those piwats...
Rudy Metallo Additional Pylons	Posted - 2007.11.05 12:06:00 - [36] Edited by: Rudy Metallo on 05/11/2007 12:06:28 I smell a) an isk farmer b) a translator and c) a very ******* stupid idea. Its called Kill Rights. -- We are the revolutionaries. We are the usurpers of the heavenly throne. We are the enemies of the Gods.
Saint Luka The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.11.05 12:40:00 - [37] Dont want too PVP? Dont go to low security space. Want to learn PVP? Use your character to get out there and do it. -
Olly Alt	Posted - 2007.11.05 14:12:00 - [38] get out.
Olly210 Applied Eugenics	Posted - 2007.11.05 14:13:00 - [39] i really meant, get out.
Motokko	Posted - 2007.11.05 15:10:00 - [40] I vote for the inclusion of the 'carebare sec status tanking' mod. This will be a low slot mod similar to damage control in that only one can be fitted and it has very low requirements. When activated this mod will increase all shield, armor, and hull resists by an amount inversly proportional to the security status of any other players on the same grid. For example, if one naughty pirate with sec status -1.0 is in the same grid it will boost all your resists by 10%. This resist bonus will climb as the pirate's sec status lowers giving up to a 50% resist bonus if the pirate is really really naughty and has sec status -10.0. In order to protect against blobs the resists will also stack in accordance with the number of pirates taking into account usual stacking penalty. So for example, if all these pirates are -10 then the resists will rack up like so: 1 pirate : 50% resist 2 pirates : 71.7% resist 3 pirates : 79.8% resist etc. This of course being in addition to your base resists plus the effect of any hardners or damage controls you have also fitted. Yes I'm joking ------------------- "Stay Alert! Trust No One! Keep Your Laser Handy!"
Elaina Marie	Posted - 2007.11.06 02:56:00 - [41] Originally by: Ernesto Hoost A blaster mega would eat them all alive solo, especially if they were under sentry fire. Muninns and Huginns are not known for their tanking ability. I would love to see your blaster mega hit targets that were at least 28km away, and you are going about 80km/s
icarus braciolini Omen Incorporated CODE RED ALLIANCE	Posted - 2007.11.06 03:31:00 - [42] lol good point about the kill rights... but as a carebear don't go into low sec really easy... don't run missions near low sec... etc. etc. + if you are hardcore running missions you standings should be able to take the hit once every 20 missions or so..
Vemille Kechov	Posted - 2007.11.06 04:25:00 - [43] There are several very simple solutions to your problem. 1) You're a mission runner. You must have over 8.0 standing with some NPC corp; spend the hour of training time on Infomorph Psychology and get a jump clone. Put it in a nearby station. Need to make a run into low sec? Jump into your clone, leaving your implants safely behind. The 24 hours is a small price to pay for 1.5 billion in implants. 2) If you need to make a courier run, take a T1 frigate and fill the low slots with warp stabs. You can warp out before they even lock on to you. Need to haul something bigger? Try the Crane (or other blockade runner), or if you don't want to risk that much money or spend that much training time, fit the four lows of a Bestower with warp stabs. 3) If those recommendations fail, just turn down the mission. Or, if you really can't take the standings loss (unlikely), have a corp mate or friend do it, or contract it out. I've been playing EVE for two months; these things aren't difficult, and they've worked for me, even with only 2 million SP. Rule of thumb is, don't take your PvE fitted Raven and 1.5 billion ISK skull where they don't belong. Lastly, don't expect CCP to bork a relatively well balanced game simply because you are unwilling to research proper tactics for yourself. And if you <i>do</i> expect CCP to add a ridiculous god-item for your unneeded satisfaction, whatever you do, don't whine on the forums about it! Save face man!
Ernesto Hoost	Posted - 2007.11.06 04:31:00 - [44] Originally by: Elaina Marie Originally by: Ernesto Hoost A blaster mega would eat them all alive solo, especially if they were under sentry fire. Muninns and Huginns are not known for their tanking ability. I would love to see your blaster mega hit targets that were at least 28km away, and you are going about 80km/s I would love to see that Huginn tank a sentry for more than 20secs 3 Munins and a Huginn = worst low sec camp ever, and 5 times the price of the effective 2 Drake combo Just pointing out that if that was indeed the camp, then yes I would take my chances and jump it
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.11.06 05:07:00 - [45] Originally by: Niffetin Stupid trolls... o/ Originally by: Liz Kali Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking I owned someone on forums!!!
Rawr Cristina Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.06 13:16:00 - [46] Originally by: Motokko Edited by: Motokko on 05/11/2007 15:16:02 I vote for the inclusion of the 'carebare sec status tanking' mod. It's a sad truth that most of the hi-sec population would actually endorse this -----
Omarvelous Destry's Lounge	Posted - 2007.11.06 13:37:00 - [47] Hello Starbuck Venus - wish I had come up with a name as clever... Listen to the advice given on avoiding gate camps - either scout ahead in a small ship - or use a friend to scout for you <this is a multi player game after all>.\ Also - you should NEVER get podded in low-sec unless you hit a lag spike (ancient laptops FTL ). When you see your ship in structure and there is no hope of winning the fight - find a celestial object like a stargate or a station, and start spamming the 'warp to' button on top of your overview. Even though your ship is warp-jammed, you will instantly warp once your ships pops and you're in your pod. I mean +5 implants lost - man that's gotta hurt! __________________________________________________ Sup brosef! Destry's Lounge is looking for a few good drunks - contact me in game.
Rhoxis	Posted - 2007.11.06 14:52:00 - [48] But we already have these kind of vessels. They have virtually every kind of electronic warfare and their guns hurt more than faction modules. As if that wasn't bad enough, they come equipped with a "call for help" button that calls all of your friends instantly to the area. The only problem is that CONCORD doesn't like selling their ships Seriously though, stupid idea. Pirates/griefers would find a way to use this mega-ship, so you wind up helping them. I was thinking of ways to counter high sec/low sec griefing though. If your sec status gets to a certain point, you should be able to dial 911 and get some CONCORD out there to help you. Makes sense to me, if your sec status is 5+ CONCORD should like you well enough to come out and save your hide from time to time!
Galan Amarias Amarr Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.11.07 09:03:00 - [49] Originally by: Rhoxis ...I was thinking of ways to counter high sec/low sec griefing though. If your sec status gets to a certain point, you should be able to dial 911 and get some CONCORD out there to help you. Makes sense to me, if your sec status is 5+ CONCORD should like you well enough to come out and save your hide from time to time! Griefing?! Ok ignoring that misused label, for now. The reason low sec is low sec is that there is no concord presence at all. Only the sentry guns and if you look those are faction navy objects, not concord objects. The minute concord shows up, you're in high sec. Now for a word on concord. They are corrupt as hell. They will take a bribe from anyone to look the other way while that person shoots whomever they bribed concord to let them shoot. It's called a War Dec and it's not even all that expensive. If you think they will respond to some kind of call for help, you'd better be ready to pay, and pay through the nose. Still it'll never happen, you need players to come to your aid, not NPC. Finally, if you would like to be able to change the sec status of a system with ISK, I'm all for that, as long as we can do it too. Im sure several billion would materialize instantly if it ment Jita went .4 for a few days. -Galan The answer to empire ganking
Kessiaan	Posted - 2007.11.07 09:20:00 - [50] Edited by: Kessiaan on 07/11/2007 09:24:49 Edited by: Kessiaan on 07/11/2007 09:21:20 Originally by: Saint Luka Dont want too PVP? Dont go to low security space. Want to carebear it up lowsec? Pirates giving you the blues? You don't need to throw your hands in the air in frustration.. you just need to learn to.. EVADE! - Fit stabs and a cloak when going through a lowsec gate. Dock at a station in-system and switch to your mission equipment there. Do the same when leaving, and again for your salvaging ship. - If someone (or multiple someones) are on a gate when you go through it, click the arrow on the right side of your speed meter thingy to go to max speed, then hit your cloak. You'll decloak for a moment and then cloak again. Align while you're cloaked to a station, then uncloak and go to warp. - Watch your directional scanner when in the mission space. If you see a scanner probe dock up. - Mission in cheap throwaway T1 ships whenever possible. - Don't pay ransoms unless you feel like losing twice at gambling. - If you're going deep into lowsec, lowsec-lowsec gates are much safer than highsec-lowsec gates so once you're in lowsec try to stay there. - Check your starmap, filter by ships destroyed in the last hour. Camped gates will conveniently light up. - Scout potential trouble spots in a shuttle. They can get to warp before anyone can lock on them (unless the camp has been specifically set up to intercept them, but these are very rare. And even then you can still get away in your pod most of the time). ----- My in Eve Profile
Investigador Caldari Hator inc The Omni Federation	Posted - 2007.11.07 10:15:00 - [51] Originally by: Elaina Marie Originally by: Ernesto Hoost A blaster mega would eat them all alive solo, especially if they were under sentry fire. Muninns and Huginns are not known for their tanking ability. I would love to see your blaster mega hit targets that were at least 28km away, and you are going about 80km/s But 28km is so far away that they can't web you or scramble you, which means that you can warp away (which is what the OP probably wanted to do) or MWD back to the gate to jump back to the system you came from, and wait for a better time to enter the system, when the gatecamp is gone.
Dani Leone Gallente A Dark Cloud	Posted - 2007.11.07 14:44:00 - [52] Originally by: Starbuck Venus Edited by: Starbuck Venus on 05/11/2007 01:08:33 Sorry, forgot that I made 20 missions and go on low sec more than 20 times, crossed yellow pirates and red flashing pirates but they never "aggro" me? More the time, they are alone, perhaps some are cloacked and waiting that I lock and fire first... But never begining the aggro. ...snippage... Some stuffs are very strange? Why 1 pve player can NOT survive instead 2 or more pvp players when he is a "Lone Wolf" for playing alone for the fun? It's time to create a "Bounty Hunter" category vessel(s) for the "Lone Wolf" for he have more fun to hunt "Pirates" anywhere on Eve universe! Egidio. Hard on the eyes all that, but there already is a "Bounty Hunter" vessel. It is your PVE ship fitted with a more balanced tank and ammo. It might take you a little longer to ***** through all those missions, but if anyone does engage you expecting an easy gank, you might to be able to collect their bounty :)
Reverend Revelator Elite Storm Enterprises	Posted - 2007.11.07 15:01:00 - [53] I'd mock the OP, but he took all the challenge out of it... -- Dead People Laugh At The Murder Of Love --
Ernesto Hoost	Posted - 2007.11.07 15:17:00 - [54] Originally by: Investigador But 28km is so far away that they can't web you or scramble you, which means that you can warp away (which is what the OP probably wanted to do) or MWD back to the gate to jump back to the system you came from, and wait for a better time to enter the system, when the gatecamp is gone. Well huginns web at 40Km without faction webs...and with gang mods you can get a T2 disruptor to 32km fairly easy. But we digress
Mik kyo Gr0und Zer0	Posted - 2007.11.07 15:57:00 - [55] Posting in a pirate alt thread
Rudy Metallo Additional Pylons	Posted - 2007.11.07 16:43:00 - [56] Originally by: Investigador Originally by: Elaina Marie Originally by: Ernesto Hoost A blaster mega would eat them all alive solo, especially if they were under sentry fire. Muninns and Huginns are not known for their tanking ability. I would love to see your blaster mega hit targets that were at least 28km away, and you are going about 80km/s But 28km is so far away that they can't web you or scramble you, which means that you can warp away (which is what the OP probably wanted to do) or MWD back to the gate to jump back to the system you came from, and wait for a better time to enter the system, when the gatecamp is gone. They're talkiing about Huginns, therefore he could very well be webbed, and there are faction scrams, doncha know. Still, unlikely that you'd be scrambled, but nonetheless. With 2 40-160% power bonused webs on you, you mwd at a speed of no more than 200m/s when in a vaga, let alone a megathron. But the Megathron could not fight back except with drones, which would jet be webbed by the huginn and instapopped by the Muninn. Nonetheless, it's unlikely a huginn and a Muninn could take out a mega while tanking sentries. However it is possible. -- We are the revolutionaries. We are the usurpers of the heavenly throne. We are the enemies of the Gods.
Akat Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.11.07 16:56:00 - [57] Don't grasp me!! Why you violence my boat? IÆm sorry, I couldnÆt resist.
jimmyjam Infestation.	Posted - 2007.11.07 23:31:00 - [58] I was going to talk about my nu t sac in this thread but decided against it. -----------------------------------------------
Warrio Mining Bytes Inc. D-L	Posted - 2007.11.08 11:47:00 - [59] Wow. Just wow. Sig removed due to being too freaking awsome. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Deckard Cain
Setana Manoro Gallente Firefly Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.08 12:13:00 - [60] Originally by: Starbuck Venus Edited by: Starbuck Venus on 05/11/2007 01:26:28 Hi, It's nice to have "Right Kills" when we are killed and /or podded but I remarked there is a non sens or illogical for a pve player to have a "right kill" against pvp players (more the time there are 4 to 20) who each time he/they got you very easy? I see on the "game", there is NOT vessel(s) against those ANY "Pirates" (yellow) and/or -5 to -10 security status (red flashing)? Why to have "right kill(s)" when we know there is impossible to got them with a simple pve vessel versus these pvp full T2 vessels: more the time we are alone versus minimum 2, 4 or 10 at 20, when 25 campers or spamers are at low sec Stargate(s)? Why agents send us in low sec on any missions and storyline for some bucks 50k reward + 95k collateral dammages and lost a pve vessel Raven with full T2 and 3 riggs + 5 (1 to 5) implants +4 and 5 (6 to 10) implants who give me + 5% shield tank = I lost 1 billion isk materials for few bucks agent? The differents is enormeous and unballanced between reward, bonnus and ship value! Why it don't exist a "Bounty Hunter" vessel for to be only a hunter for to find, hunt and pursuit them for to kill them too in any region (Empire & low sec) in this Eve univers? Exemple: A Caldari vessel bewteen a Battleship and a Carrier who can use Stargates ans Cyno (Vortex) for his jumps? Or best then a frigate but hard like a Dread or Titan and more fast than a space shuttle? The weapons, 2, 4 to 8 with 4, 6 to 8 targets locks, of this "Bounty Hunter" vessel will be Photons cannons and each hit will be 1,000 hp or more for this "special weapon" only mounted on a "Bounty Hunter" vessel and no one other existing vessels in the game with auto webbifier and auto scrambler on each red flashing vessels? Why it don't exist this sort of vessel who can resist itself against 5 yellow and 6 red flashing pirates T2 vessel and 20 or 25 Carrier, Commandship, Dread, Titan if there are Pirates? Else, they will win everytime if no bounty hunter vessel will exist? They are very easy to be 2, 4 or 6 "pirates" pvp players camping a stargate in low sec against a simple pve player who make only poor agents missions in low sec... You do to give a chance to that pve player for to can release his "Right Kill" else, no way! I want to be the first "Bounty Hunter" with this "special" ship for to hunt and to pursuit them for they are scarying and they move from one camping to another else they will be "KILLED"! Also, pve players can call the "Bounty Hunter" service if they are a "Right Kill" for to find, hunt and kill the "Pirate" who killed and podded him! I mean this will give another face of the game when the Bounty know that there is a Bounty Hunter at their fat ass! :D Egidio. PS. Sorry, but english is not my first language but fourth. Thank you. Actually Curzon, it's obvious from the first few lines what his post is about. Starbuck, you assume pvp-ers always always fly in groups, never undock in anything but a t2 vessel well fitted for pvp and are constantly prepared. You assume wrong. And as for your suggested vessel, no, you can't have concord in low-sec, don't take missions that send you in low-sec, find better agents than those that do, and voila, problem solved. Failgeddon wrecks CCP for XXX annoyed customers !
Starbuck Venus Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2007.11.21 16:36:00 - [61] Edited by: Starbuck Venus on 21/11/2007 17:21:09 Thanks for all the tips: now I know what to do in future low sec missions. But I see that ccp make some stupid agents to send usually pve players in low sec for pirates or pvp players to have easy "shooting gallery" else, the pirates or pvp players will wait very long time before another pirate or pvp player cross them! It's annoying to lost a vessel in 1 minute by 6 "pvps/Pirates" when it taked 8 month for to have it, to fit it and the spended time for the skills and implants... But it's in the Eve game! Egidio.
Horas Redwyne Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2007.11.21 17:20:00 - [62] Kill rights are sweet and make the game really interesting. If somebody is really ****ing you off you just do this: - set the person you have a kill right on on your buddy list (track their online time) - use a locator agent to track his movement. People tend to have the same habits and move on the same route, same stations or if you are lucky are spending time in secure space (0.5+) - dont be jumpy but keep observing for a few days - look through the killboards for the ships he uses and setups he flies -> plan accordingly You should know that he wont have friends around all the time. From there on you can plan your revenge where you will chose the time and place (station hugging, sentry guns...) to fight him. If its high sec the game just turned in your favor. You will have the ambush on your side, he wont have any help from his friends and as such you should be able to win. If you still can not defeat him when using high sec or ambush to your favor you really need more help in form of a bounty hunter titan :) .
Doddy Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.11.21 17:33:00 - [63] Edited by: Doddy on 21/11/2007 17:33:46 Originally by: Starbuck Venus Edited by: Starbuck Venus on 05/11/2007 00:33:41 Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton use more than 1 agent? :( its a shame i havent gotten to kill you yet Can find me in Mara, Passari and Aunemen easely... But not for the moment: no more low sec now, thanks stupids agents! Egidio. Well.... use an agent that isnt near low sec space, the further from low sec you are the less likely you are to get sent into low sec. As for why you died so easily, if you had a mission tank on it is likely the pirates realised what you were tanking and changed damage types, easily done with missiles and drones. A raven tanking mainly exp/kin melts under em/therm missiles obviously. As most missions are stupidly easy to tank you really dont need to have your tank set that hard against one thing when you wander into low sec, but no matter how good your ship is set up you will die against even three pirates very fast. oh and i am giving you the benefit of the doubt that you are not a troll here
General Coochie New Justice Minuit.	Posted - 2007.11.21 17:35:00 - [64] Its a joke a troll or some kind of weird sarcasm. I will never believe this to be real NEVER! /runs away Signature removed - please reduce your signature graphic height to less than 120 pixels - Jacques([email protected])
Doddy Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.11.21 17:40:00 - [65] Originally by: Elaina Marie Originally by: Ernesto Hoost A blaster mega would eat them all alive solo, especially if they were under sentry fire. Muninns and Huginns are not known for their tanking ability. I would love to see your blaster mega hit targets that were at least 28km away, and you are going about 80km/s A blaster mega that goes 80km/s sounds incredible, pity it wouldnt track too well ....... Where do you get this 1000 times increase velocity mod? I assume thats a mistake tho so you are ofc right
Doddy Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.11.21 17:47:00 - [66] ok, now i feel stupid, this is def a troll. A t2 fitted rigged raven with implants doing a mission with a 50k reward? I havent missioned in a long time but i dont think its got that bad has it?
MEEATYOU Gallente IMP3RIUM	Posted - 2007.11.21 21:07:00 - [67] Originally by: Starbuck Venus Edited by: Starbuck Venus on 05/11/2007 01:11:03 Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton troll or complete misunderstanding of how the game works? Please, stay polite: I am polite, I don't typed name(s) to someone, my teachers never learned me your bad side of your language! And, you don't know me in real life, and I don't know you too: I am polite with all people on any games online because I don't know them and I don't want they are a bad idea of I! This, you well understund? Egidio. <--- This is my real firstname in real life! ISK Farmer?

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