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Niffetin Gallente CONsordium Infinate	Posted - 2007.11.05 08:52:00 - [31] Stupid trolls... WTS: Armageddon / Void L / Mobile Large Warp Disruptor
Arekhon Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2007.11.05 08:57:00 - [32] "wrong kills" "Where are you guys going in your battleships?" "We are going to camp in Amamake; kill 500 carebears and 1 NPC" "Why are you gonna kill an NPC?" "See, nobody cares about the carebears!" [BEES]
Ja'kar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.11.05 09:09:00 - [33] Perkone Question happens when the pirates get hold of the bounty ship?
PMolkenthin Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.11.05 11:17:00 - [34] Stop saying "Right Kills"
General Hawke Caldari DMC Inc. Fang Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.05 11:21:00 - [35] ok first off, "blink reds" can be shot anywhere at any time. So, if you can bait them to a gate while they are taking sentry fire, when you have friends of course, there are many ways you can hurt them. It isn't really all that hard and most pve players already have the necessary skills to PvP. There is no need to create OMGINHMR(OhMyGodI'mNubHearMeRoar) "bounty hunter" ships. Now the hiring of a service? They are called Mercs, and already in-game. So, go get some isk and buy some... If you can't handle yourself individually or as a corp/alliance in low-sec don't go there. Simple as that. Don't come in here and whine about it, I don't think you need a ship like that, just some balls. Get some friends, get some ships, the more expensive the better, and then go to low sec and play with those piwats...
Rudy Metallo Additional Pylons	Posted - 2007.11.05 12:06:00 - [36] Edited by: Rudy Metallo on 05/11/2007 12:06:28 I smell a) an isk farmer b) a translator and c) a very ******* stupid idea. Its called Kill Rights. -- We are the revolutionaries. We are the usurpers of the heavenly throne. We are the enemies of the Gods.
Saint Luka The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.11.05 12:40:00 - [37] Dont want too PVP? Dont go to low security space. Want to learn PVP? Use your character to get out there and do it. -
Olly Alt	Posted - 2007.11.05 14:12:00 - [38] get out.
Olly210 Applied Eugenics	Posted - 2007.11.05 14:13:00 - [39] i really meant, get out.
Motokko	Posted - 2007.11.05 15:10:00 - [40] I vote for the inclusion of the 'carebare sec status tanking' mod. This will be a low slot mod similar to damage control in that only one can be fitted and it has very low requirements. When activated this mod will increase all shield, armor, and hull resists by an amount inversly proportional to the security status of any other players on the same grid. For example, if one naughty pirate with sec status -1.0 is in the same grid it will boost all your resists by 10%. This resist bonus will climb as the pirate's sec status lowers giving up to a 50% resist bonus if the pirate is really really naughty and has sec status -10.0. In order to protect against blobs the resists will also stack in accordance with the number of pirates taking into account usual stacking penalty. So for example, if all these pirates are -10 then the resists will rack up like so: 1 pirate : 50% resist 2 pirates : 71.7% resist 3 pirates : 79.8% resist etc. This of course being in addition to your base resists plus the effect of any hardners or damage controls you have also fitted. Yes I'm joking ------------------- "Stay Alert! Trust No One! Keep Your Laser Handy!"
Elaina Marie	Posted - 2007.11.06 02:56:00 - [41] Originally by: Ernesto Hoost A blaster mega would eat them all alive solo, especially if they were under sentry fire. Muninns and Huginns are not known for their tanking ability. I would love to see your blaster mega hit targets that were at least 28km away, and you are going about 80km/s
icarus braciolini Omen Incorporated CODE RED ALLIANCE	Posted - 2007.11.06 03:31:00 - [42] lol good point about the kill rights... but as a carebear don't go into low sec really easy... don't run missions near low sec... etc. etc. + if you are hardcore running missions you standings should be able to take the hit once every 20 missions or so..
Vemille Kechov	Posted - 2007.11.06 04:25:00 - [43] There are several very simple solutions to your problem. 1) You're a mission runner. You must have over 8.0 standing with some NPC corp; spend the hour of training time on Infomorph Psychology and get a jump clone. Put it in a nearby station. Need to make a run into low sec? Jump into your clone, leaving your implants safely behind. The 24 hours is a small price to pay for 1.5 billion in implants. 2) If you need to make a courier run, take a T1 frigate and fill the low slots with warp stabs. You can warp out before they even lock on to you. Need to haul something bigger? Try the Crane (or other blockade runner), or if you don't want to risk that much money or spend that much training time, fit the four lows of a Bestower with warp stabs. 3) If those recommendations fail, just turn down the mission. Or, if you really can't take the standings loss (unlikely), have a corp mate or friend do it, or contract it out. I've been playing EVE for two months; these things aren't difficult, and they've worked for me, even with only 2 million SP. Rule of thumb is, don't take your PvE fitted Raven and 1.5 billion ISK skull where they don't belong. Lastly, don't expect CCP to bork a relatively well balanced game simply because you are unwilling to research proper tactics for yourself. And if you <i>do</i> expect CCP to add a ridiculous god-item for your unneeded satisfaction, whatever you do, don't whine on the forums about it! Save face man!
Ernesto Hoost	Posted - 2007.11.06 04:31:00 - [44] Originally by: Elaina Marie Originally by: Ernesto Hoost A blaster mega would eat them all alive solo, especially if they were under sentry fire. Muninns and Huginns are not known for their tanking ability. I would love to see your blaster mega hit targets that were at least 28km away, and you are going about 80km/s I would love to see that Huginn tank a sentry for more than 20secs 3 Munins and a Huginn = worst low sec camp ever, and 5 times the price of the effective 2 Drake combo Just pointing out that if that was indeed the camp, then yes I would take my chances and jump it
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.11.06 05:07:00 - [45] Originally by: Niffetin Stupid trolls... o/ Originally by: Liz Kali Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking I owned someone on forums!!!
Rawr Cristina Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.06 13:16:00 - [46] Originally by: Motokko Edited by: Motokko on 05/11/2007 15:16:02 I vote for the inclusion of the 'carebare sec status tanking' mod. It's a sad truth that most of the hi-sec population would actually endorse this -----
Omarvelous Destry's Lounge	Posted - 2007.11.06 13:37:00 - [47] Hello Starbuck Venus - wish I had come up with a name as clever... Listen to the advice given on avoiding gate camps - either scout ahead in a small ship - or use a friend to scout for you <this is a multi player game after all>.\ Also - you should NEVER get podded in low-sec unless you hit a lag spike (ancient laptops FTL ). When you see your ship in structure and there is no hope of winning the fight - find a celestial object like a stargate or a station, and start spamming the 'warp to' button on top of your overview. Even though your ship is warp-jammed, you will instantly warp once your ships pops and you're in your pod. I mean +5 implants lost - man that's gotta hurt! __________________________________________________ Sup brosef! Destry's Lounge is looking for a few good drunks - contact me in game.
Rhoxis	Posted - 2007.11.06 14:52:00 - [48] But we already have these kind of vessels. They have virtually every kind of electronic warfare and their guns hurt more than faction modules. As if that wasn't bad enough, they come equipped with a "call for help" button that calls all of your friends instantly to the area. The only problem is that CONCORD doesn't like selling their ships Seriously though, stupid idea. Pirates/griefers would find a way to use this mega-ship, so you wind up helping them. I was thinking of ways to counter high sec/low sec griefing though. If your sec status gets to a certain point, you should be able to dial 911 and get some CONCORD out there to help you. Makes sense to me, if your sec status is 5+ CONCORD should like you well enough to come out and save your hide from time to time!
Galan Amarias Amarr Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.11.07 09:03:00 - [49] Originally by: Rhoxis ...I was thinking of ways to counter high sec/low sec griefing though. If your sec status gets to a certain point, you should be able to dial 911 and get some CONCORD out there to help you. Makes sense to me, if your sec status is 5+ CONCORD should like you well enough to come out and save your hide from time to time! Griefing?! Ok ignoring that misused label, for now. The reason low sec is low sec is that there is no concord presence at all. Only the sentry guns and if you look those are faction navy objects, not concord objects. The minute concord shows up, you're in high sec. Now for a word on concord. They are corrupt as hell. They will take a bribe from anyone to look the other way while that person shoots whomever they bribed concord to let them shoot. It's called a War Dec and it's not even all that expensive. If you think they will respond to some kind of call for help, you'd better be ready to pay, and pay through the nose. Still it'll never happen, you need players to come to your aid, not NPC. Finally, if you would like to be able to change the sec status of a system with ISK, I'm all for that, as long as we can do it too. Im sure several billion would materialize instantly if it ment Jita went .4 for a few days. -Galan The answer to empire ganking
Kessiaan	Posted - 2007.11.07 09:20:00 - [50] Edited by: Kessiaan on 07/11/2007 09:24:49 Edited by: Kessiaan on 07/11/2007 09:21:20 Originally by: Saint Luka Dont want too PVP? Dont go to low security space. Want to carebear it up lowsec? Pirates giving you the blues? You don't need to throw your hands in the air in frustration.. you just need to learn to.. EVADE! - Fit stabs and a cloak when going through a lowsec gate. Dock at a station in-system and switch to your mission equipment there. Do the same when leaving, and again for your salvaging ship. - If someone (or multiple someones) are on a gate when you go through it, click the arrow on the right side of your speed meter thingy to go to max speed, then hit your cloak. You'll decloak for a moment and then cloak again. Align while you're cloaked to a station, then uncloak and go to warp. - Watch your directional scanner when in the mission space. If you see a scanner probe dock up. - Mission in cheap throwaway T1 ships whenever possible. - Don't pay ransoms unless you feel like losing twice at gambling. - If you're going deep into lowsec, lowsec-lowsec gates are much safer than highsec-lowsec gates so once you're in lowsec try to stay there. - Check your starmap, filter by ships destroyed in the last hour. Camped gates will conveniently light up. - Scout potential trouble spots in a shuttle. They can get to warp before anyone can lock on them (unless the camp has been specifically set up to intercept them, but these are very rare. And even then you can still get away in your pod most of the time). ----- My in Eve Profile
Investigador Caldari Hator inc The Omni Federation	Posted - 2007.11.07 10:15:00 - [51] Originally by: Elaina Marie Originally by: Ernesto Hoost A blaster mega would eat them all alive solo, especially if they were under sentry fire. Muninns and Huginns are not known for their tanking ability. I would love to see your blaster mega hit targets that were at least 28km away, and you are going about 80km/s But 28km is so far away that they can't web you or scramble you, which means that you can warp away (which is what the OP probably wanted to do) or MWD back to the gate to jump back to the system you came from, and wait for a better time to enter the system, when the gatecamp is gone.
Dani Leone Gallente A Dark Cloud	Posted - 2007.11.07 14:44:00 - [52] Originally by: Starbuck Venus Edited by: Starbuck Venus on 05/11/2007 01:08:33 Sorry, forgot that I made 20 missions and go on low sec more than 20 times, crossed yellow pirates and red flashing pirates but they never "aggro" me? More the time, they are alone, perhaps some are cloacked and waiting that I lock and fire first... But never begining the aggro. ...snippage... Some stuffs are very strange? Why 1 pve player can NOT survive instead 2 or more pvp players when he is a "Lone Wolf" for playing alone for the fun? It's time to create a "Bounty Hunter" category vessel(s) for the "Lone Wolf" for he have more fun to hunt "Pirates" anywhere on Eve universe! Egidio. Hard on the eyes all that, but there already is a "Bounty Hunter" vessel. It is your PVE ship fitted with a more balanced tank and ammo. It might take you a little longer to ***** through all those missions, but if anyone does engage you expecting an easy gank, you might to be able to collect their bounty :)
Reverend Revelator Elite Storm Enterprises	Posted - 2007.11.07 15:01:00 - [53] I'd mock the OP, but he took all the challenge out of it... -- Dead People Laugh At The Murder Of Love --
Ernesto Hoost	Posted - 2007.11.07 15:17:00 - [54] Originally by: Investigador But 28km is so far away that they can't web you or scramble you, which means that you can warp away (which is what the OP probably wanted to do) or MWD back to the gate to jump back to the system you came from, and wait for a better time to enter the system, when the gatecamp is gone. Well huginns web at 40Km without faction webs...and with gang mods you can get a T2 disruptor to 32km fairly easy. But we digress
Mik kyo Gr0und Zer0	Posted - 2007.11.07 15:57:00 - [55] Posting in a pirate alt thread
Rudy Metallo Additional Pylons	Posted - 2007.11.07 16:43:00 - [56] Originally by: Investigador Originally by: Elaina Marie Originally by: Ernesto Hoost A blaster mega would eat them all alive solo, especially if they were under sentry fire. Muninns and Huginns are not known for their tanking ability. I would love to see your blaster mega hit targets that were at least 28km away, and you are going about 80km/s But 28km is so far away that they can't web you or scramble you, which means that you can warp away (which is what the OP probably wanted to do) or MWD back to the gate to jump back to the system you came from, and wait for a better time to enter the system, when the gatecamp is gone. They're talkiing about Huginns, therefore he could very well be webbed, and there are faction scrams, doncha know. Still, unlikely that you'd be scrambled, but nonetheless. With 2 40-160% power bonused webs on you, you mwd at a speed of no more than 200m/s when in a vaga, let alone a megathron. But the Megathron could not fight back except with drones, which would jet be webbed by the huginn and instapopped by the Muninn. Nonetheless, it's unlikely a huginn and a Muninn could take out a mega while tanking sentries. However it is possible. -- We are the revolutionaries. We are the usurpers of the heavenly throne. We are the enemies of the Gods.
Akat Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.11.07 16:56:00 - [57] Don't grasp me!! Why you violence my boat? IÆm sorry, I couldnÆt resist.
jimmyjam Infestation.	Posted - 2007.11.07 23:31:00 - [58] I was going to talk about my nu t sac in this thread but decided against it. -----------------------------------------------
Warrio Mining Bytes Inc. D-L	Posted - 2007.11.08 11:47:00 - [59] Wow. Just wow. Sig removed due to being too freaking awsome. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Deckard Cain
Setana Manoro Gallente Firefly Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.08 12:13:00 - [60] Originally by: Starbuck Venus Edited by: Starbuck Venus on 05/11/2007 01:26:28 Hi, It's nice to have "Right Kills" when we are killed and /or podded but I remarked there is a non sens or illogical for a pve player to have a "right kill" against pvp players (more the time there are 4 to 20) who each time he/they got you very easy? I see on the "game", there is NOT vessel(s) against those ANY "Pirates" (yellow) and/or -5 to -10 security status (red flashing)? Why to have "right kill(s)" when we know there is impossible to got them with a simple pve vessel versus these pvp full T2 vessels: more the time we are alone versus minimum 2, 4 or 10 at 20, when 25 campers or spamers are at low sec Stargate(s)? Why agents send us in low sec on any missions and storyline for some bucks 50k reward + 95k collateral dammages and lost a pve vessel Raven with full T2 and 3 riggs + 5 (1 to 5) implants +4 and 5 (6 to 10) implants who give me + 5% shield tank = I lost 1 billion isk materials for few bucks agent? The differents is enormeous and unballanced between reward, bonnus and ship value! Why it don't exist a "Bounty Hunter" vessel for to be only a hunter for to find, hunt and pursuit them for to kill them too in any region (Empire & low sec) in this Eve univers? Exemple: A Caldari vessel bewteen a Battleship and a Carrier who can use Stargates ans Cyno (Vortex) for his jumps? Or best then a frigate but hard like a Dread or Titan and more fast than a space shuttle? The weapons, 2, 4 to 8 with 4, 6 to 8 targets locks, of this "Bounty Hunter" vessel will be Photons cannons and each hit will be 1,000 hp or more for this "special weapon" only mounted on a "Bounty Hunter" vessel and no one other existing vessels in the game with auto webbifier and auto scrambler on each red flashing vessels? Why it don't exist this sort of vessel who can resist itself against 5 yellow and 6 red flashing pirates T2 vessel and 20 or 25 Carrier, Commandship, Dread, Titan if there are Pirates? Else, they will win everytime if no bounty hunter vessel will exist? They are very easy to be 2, 4 or 6 "pirates" pvp players camping a stargate in low sec against a simple pve player who make only poor agents missions in low sec... You do to give a chance to that pve player for to can release his "Right Kill" else, no way! I want to be the first "Bounty Hunter" with this "special" ship for to hunt and to pursuit them for they are scarying and they move from one camping to another else they will be "KILLED"! Also, pve players can call the "Bounty Hunter" service if they are a "Right Kill" for to find, hunt and kill the "Pirate" who killed and podded him! I mean this will give another face of the game when the Bounty know that there is a Bounty Hunter at their fat ass! :D Egidio. PS. Sorry, but english is not my first language but fourth. Thank you. Actually Curzon, it's obvious from the first few lines what his post is about. Starbuck, you assume pvp-ers always always fly in groups, never undock in anything but a t2 vessel well fitted for pvp and are constantly prepared. You assume wrong. And as for your suggested vessel, no, you can't have concord in low-sec, don't take missions that send you in low-sec, find better agents than those that do, and voila, problem solved. Failgeddon wrecks CCP for XXX annoyed customers !

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