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Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 8170	Posted - 2012.01.28 19:34:00 - [31] - Quote Akrasjel Lanate wrote: Goons live in Null sec nap fest not low sec And members of elected bodies make decisions or influence policy that effects everyone, not just people like them. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer
Tenebrae Syrennis The Scope Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2012.01.28 20:20:00 - [32] - Quote Allow Stealth-Bomber to use their bombs in losec. No bubbles. Ever.
Lyrrashae Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition 184	Posted - 2012.01.29 22:39:00 - [33] - Quote Lyris Nairn wrote: Akrasjel Lanate wrote: Goons live in Null sec nap fest not low sec And members of elected bodies make decisions or influence policy that effects everyone, not just people like them. Precisely. [/irony + cynicism] Think of me as the Jester to your King Lear: Because annoying you is more fun than politicking with you. Because your predictable outrage makes you even more fun to play with. Because forum PvP = best PvP. Come to me, little puppet!
Lyrrashae Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition 184	Posted - 2012.01.29 22:43:00 - [34] - Quote But seriously, now: Smuggler stargate network plus moving pirate-faction agents (at least the level 1 ones) to losec. This idea is not original to me--CSM5 Chairwoman Mynxee gets the credit there--but check my flirting-with-politics thread (ref.: Post #64) for specifics. Because if losec is a "ghetto," as I've heard it described, then where are all the drug-runners/dealers? Think of me as the Jester to your King Lear: Because annoying you is more fun than politicking with you. Because your predictable outrage makes you even more fun to play with. Because forum PvP = best PvP. Come to me, little puppet!
Pavel Bidermann Aliastra Gallente Federation 83	Posted - 2012.01.30 00:43:00 - [35] - Quote Lyris Nairn wrote: Akrasjel Lanate wrote: Goons live in Null sec nap fest not low sec And members of elected bodies make decisions or influence policy that effects everyone, not just people like them. I think you should go back and review the recent meeting notes. The CSM clearly does not serve the game overall. Unless you're in a large null sec alliance that is. CSM should stop messing with things they have no idea about. Not that they have any actual control over anything. Its just thaat CCP doesn't know how the game works either so they assume these guys do. That's a bad mix.
Kelvan Hemanseh Starwinders The Unwilling. 2	Posted - 2012.01.30 15:29:00 - [36] - Quote Did that rifter serve you well?
Hans Jagerblitzen Autocannons Anonymous 863	Posted - 2012.01.30 20:41:00 - [37] - Quote Elessa Enaka wrote: Oh, well, little miss high-and-mighty "I write everything in italics cause I thought the I meant that it made what I was saying important" why don't you enlighten me? What about an idea that I proposed in an internet forum thread soliciting ideas makes me the dumbest person ever? Can you do something other than belittle or is that all your mommy and daddy taught you by example? I can do something better, I'll explain why its a horrible idea. Lowsec is where many of us go specifically to avoid the kind of restrictive and / or powerful measures of warfare and control such as bubbles and bombs. Faction Warfare pilots and pirate gangs alike all have chosen to live in lowsec BECAUSE of the small scale gang warfare that thrives there. Pilots that live and fight in lowsec choose to do so because they can engage in more casual PvP, roaming in small ships and having some freedom to choose engagements and the freedom to simply travel if they dont want to fight. Lowsec enables much more pilot freedom than nullsec provides, specifically because of things like Bubble camps. The Faction Warfare community has been specifically fighting all proposals to the FW system that resemble creating a "null sec lite" , and to put it bluntly the proposal outlined in the recent summit minutes was extremely 0.0-biased and if implemented would destroy the very reason WHY faction warfare pilots PvP in FW and not in nullsec. No self-respecting Faction Warfare pilot has any interest in bringing bombs or bubbles to lowsec. I have yet to meet a single one, and I've been the primary person leading the Faction Warfare community's calls for reform. We are almost unanimously opposed to measures that force 0.0-style gameplay onto lowsec residents. While the idea may seem good to you, it has nothing to do with what the FW community wants for itself.
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 8259	Posted - 2012.01.30 21:08:00 - [38] - Quote Pavel Bidermann wrote: Lyris Nairn wrote: Akrasjel Lanate wrote: Goons live in Null sec nap fest not low sec And members of elected bodies make decisions or influence policy that effects everyone, not just people like them. I think you should go back and review the recent meeting notes. The CSM clearly does not serve the game overall. Unless you're in a large null sec alliance that is. CSM should stop messing with things they have no idea about. Not that they have any actual control over anything. Its just that CCP doesn't know how the game works either so they assume these guys do. That's a bad mix. I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I am asserting that whomever goes to the CSM, be it someone you vote for or someone you do not vote for, is going to be making decisions that are nominally made on your behalf, and which will potentially impact the aspects of EVE Online that involve you. While acknowledging that it is the point you are making, the assertion that the present CSM is dominated entirely by Null Sec players pursuing a Null Sec agenda is not relevant to the point that I was trying to make. That point, rephrased, is that if I am elected to the CSM despite the fact that Player X does not wish me to be there, I am still at least nominally in a position to make decisions and proposals on behalf of Player X and, again at least nominally, in support of Player X's interests; therefore, even if Player X does not intend to vote for me it is still in Player X's better interest to inform me of his position on issues so that, in the off change that I actually do stick to the nominal job description of an elected representative, I can present those issues and argue those opinions on his behalf, which I cannot do unless I am informed as to what they are. That is all I am asking people to do in this thread, is to inform me of their desires. Of course, if you presuppose that I am going to completely disregard anything that's not in keeping with the interests of Null Sec then I can see why you wouldn't see a point in bothering to tell me, but that's an entirely different argument. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM.
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 8259	Posted - 2012.01.30 21:15:00 - [39] - Quote Kelvan Hemanseh wrote: Did that rifter serve you well? It was very strange to be flying a Rifter that was competently fit for combat. The ones that I usually fly are competent, but they are fit specifically to be low-skill ships that brand new players can fly and are designed for a specialized fleet role as fast tackle and scouts. In any event, that Rifter got me to where I was going, and then I logged off for the night. Thank you, so much, space friend, for that Rifter! e: format Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM.
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 8259	Posted - 2012.01.30 21:21:00 - [40] - Quote Hans Jagerblitzen wrote: Pilots that live and fight in lowsec choose to do so because they can engage in more casual PvP, roaming in small ships and having some freedom to choose engagements and the freedom to simply travel if they dont want to fight. Lowsec enables much more pilot freedom than nullsec provides, specifically because of things like Bubble camps. The Faction Warfare community has been specifically fighting all proposals to the FW system that resemble creating a "null sec lite" , and to put it bluntly the proposal outlined in the recent summit minutes was extremely 0.0-biased and if implemented would destroy the very reason WHY faction warfare pilots PvP in FW and not in nullsec. No self-respecting Faction Warfare pilot has any interest in bringing bombs or bubbles to lowsec. I have yet to meet a single one, and I've been the primary person leading the Faction Warfare community's calls for reform. We are almost unanimously opposed to measures that force 0.0-style gameplay onto lowsec residents. Hans, thank you for your reply! I appreciate that you have elaborated on what I would call a philosophy or attitude towards Low Sec that you share with many of your compatriots, and I think it is very useful to have that as a part of the dialog. But at the same time I notice your comments so far are reserved mostly for shooting down ideas to preserve the status quo. Is that because you believe everything is just fine as it is right now, or is it because you have simply been trying to talk down the ideas of others? If it is the latter, then I invite you to provide some of your own ideas to the discussion so that we can have a more varied dialog and engage in debate. Is it safe for me to assume that in differentiating the Faction Warfare community from Low Sec in general that you feel there are specific needs which ought to be addressed in addition to or separate entirely from those regarding Low Sec in general? If so, then I would like you to express those ideas. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM.
Hans Jagerblitzen Autocannons Anonymous 865	Posted - 2012.01.30 21:47:00 - [41] - Quote Lyris Nairn wrote: I appreciate that you have elaborated on what I would call a philosophy or attitude towards Low Sec that you share with many of your compatriots, and I think it is very useful to have that as a part of the dialog. But at the same time I notice your comments so far are reserved mostly for shooting down ideas to preserve the status quo. Is that because you believe everything is just fine as it is right now, or is it because you have simply been trying to talk down the ideas of others? If it is the latter, then I invite you to provide some of your own ideas to the discussion so that we can have a more varied dialog and engage in debate. Is it safe for me to assume that in differentiating the Faction Warfare community from Low Sec in general that you feel there are specific needs which ought to be addressed in addition to or separate entirely from those regarding Low Sec in general? If so, then I would like you to express those ideas. I have spoken extensively about lowsec and Faction Warfare, and both what we are fighting for and what we are fighting against. In the interest of saving time and space, I'll simply refer you to my threadnought, though I'm not quite sure how you've missed it all these months! So no, I certainly don't believe everything is fine right now. But I believe that the residents of lowsec should be the ones that decide the future of lowsec space. We live here for a specific type of gameplay, we enjoy certain freedoms, and we loathe certain aspects of nullsec life that we find very boring and don't want integrated into lowsec overhauls. This is not to trash on nullsec in anyway - many of the problems facing Faction Warfare and lowsec activity in general are similar to the stagnation in fighting in nullsec, which also stems from core mechanical issues that were broken in a half-ass expansion that was never iterated upon. Just as FW was released in Empyrian Age than abandoned, the nullsec soveriegnty system was released in Dominion than abandoned. Both are long overdue for iterative upgrades. As for FW vs the rest of lowsec, the reality is that Faction Warfare makes up the bulk of lowsec-specific gameplay mechanics, everything else can be found in variation between highsec and nullsec. Lowsec is home to much pirate activity, which roams around and feeds on many of the Faction Warfare ships as a primary "food source" along with fortune-seekers from highsec willing to venture beyond .5 space. This is why I say that fixing Faction Warfare is also tremendously good for the rest of lowsec PvP'ers as well.
Kelvan Hemanseh Starwinders The Unwilling. 4	Posted - 2012.01.31 03:57:00 - [42] - Quote Lyris Nairn wrote: Kelvan Hemanseh wrote: Did that rifter serve you well? It was very strange to be flying a Rifter that was competently fit for combat. The ones that I usually fly are competent, but they are fit specifically to be low-skill ships that brand new players can fly and are designed for a specialized fleet role as fast tackle and scouts. In any event, that Rifter got me to where I was going, and then I logged off for the night. Thank you, so much, space friend, for that Rifter! e: format I hope you slay many Russian space men with that rifter! I had this really good post but the forums ate it :( . Make CCP fix that. Low sec needs more of an incentive for people to be there other than it being easier for players to choose their fights. There isn't a reason for players to come and manufacture/mine/invent/research in low sec (other than drugs and certain ships), the risk is far too high for the reward. More attractions should be added to low sec. For the miners, richer belts, more ladar/gravimetric sites, and better refine values than in high sec. For the manufacturers, better material efficiency, no idea what else I don't invent/research/manufacture the best I can do is make POS fuel consumption directly related to security status. Give low sec incursions a bit of protection, make whoever decides to probe one out have to put in a great deal of work to get a decent warp in, then perhaps have to use hacking/archaeology or something like that to open a gate and get to them. That should reduce the risk enough to bring a decent amount of incursion runners to low sec when combined with high sec incursion reward nerfs. Do the same but to a lesser degree for L5 missions. Hopefully with more attractions to low sec, piracy would be indirectly buffed, since more people in the system = more targets. The bounty system should be reworked and based out of low sec. Add a skill to social, Hunting, allows the person to accept X bounty contracts per level of it, also add its corporate cousin the idea is to model the skills contracting and corporate contracting. Add another skill to social, interrogation, allows the hunter to interrogate station npcs in an effort to find out where the bounty is, should probably have some sort of mini game here so its not just a boring push button. Also another skill to social tracking, it allows you to use a special module/probe to find out where the bounty went. Adding those skills forces players to make more choices about how they allocate attributes since charisma would be slightly less worthless. A player could place a bounty on any other player that has a <0.0 security status and/or has agressed them within a determined amount of time. Bounties would have to be placed in a low sec system, and would be visible within the solar system placed. To make it easier to find out where bounties are placed a new category would appear under statistics in the map, # of bounties available. When a bounty is accepted no other player/corp could accept it, and to claim a bounty the hunter would have to turn the target's corpse in at the station the contract was placed. The player that placed the bounty will receive the corpse and also have to pay out the reward money. Since pods are a pain to catch without a dic, the bounty contract holder's warp disruptor/scrambler's effect will carry over to the pod. This effect also occurs if a neutral tries to steal the corpse of the bounty you just killed. The whole point of fixing bounty hunting is it will attract more people to low sec, to place/hunt bounties and it gives your standard helpless indy/miner some sort of recourse against someone who killed them before. Finally most of the above gives people a reason to be fighting in space which is always a good thing.
Cearain Imperial Outlaws 245	Posted - 2012.02.03 20:52:00 - [43] - Quote Check out assembly hall and the features and ideas forums. Several ideas have gotten good support. Jack Dent "what happens in low sec stays in low sec" Mittani has already weighed in support of this. Lady Spank recomended that you would only get security increases from killing rats in low sec since concord doesn't even monitor null sec. That got allot of support as well. Don't just listen to random ideas that happen to get posted in this thread. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Darkest Desire Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.02.04 11:42:00 - [44] - Quote Goons have stated many times that they are intent on the literal destruction of EVE as a game. A vote for Lyris is a vote for EVE's destruction! I intend to vote for Brak.
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 40	Posted - 2012.02.04 16:50:00 - [45] - Quote Cearain wrote: Lady Spank recomended that you would only get security increases from killing rats in low sec since concord doesn't even monitor null sec. Who pays out the bounties? Is there some other omni-present force that prints the isk to pay out on destruction of the evil Dire Pithi Infernos? Darkest Desire wrote: Goons have stated many times that they are intent on the literal destruction of EVE as a game. Mutually Assured Destruction and a MetaWin probably intersect on some measure zero set. You don't really win if there's nothing to win (or win at). By literal destruction, I assume you literally mean some harm to the actual implements used to create it, this would range from hardware like servers to software, like the buggy code that breaks oh so often. Though people go for CSM meetings, I don't think they bash servers or induce programmers to write buggy code (or code that interacts with other code in unpredictable, unstable and potentially catastrophic ways).
Tahna Rouspel BWE Special Forces 67	Posted - 2012.02.04 20:10:00 - [46] - Quote One simple change; remove sec status lost for fighting in low. This will motivate more people to fight in low sec! It's one thing I love about wormholes, you can assault people without worrying about sec status or gate guns. Actually, if I can make other suggestions; -Allow the use of mobile warp disruptor in low -Allow the use of bombs -Make your ship jump to a random location in the system after using a gate This prevents gates from being camped too easily. It makes it easier to travel between system. It will allow people to have more survivability if they're soloing and can't use an alt to scout gates. If people realize that they can live in low sec without getting curbstumped every time they jump a gate, then they will flock to low sec. Every time I had to jump through a gate in low sec with a bestower, I basically rolled a dice to tell if I'd die or not. There was no way for me to be certain what was on the other side since I only have 1 account. Once I'm in the system though, I can use d scan to get information. Having mobile warp disruptors would still allow people to stop travelers, but at least it wouldn't be as bad as before. Right now it's basically shooting down a pipe.
Berendas Clandestine Vector THE SPACE P0LICE 191	Posted - 2012.02.04 21:21:00 - [47] - Quote Morganta wrote: Lyris Nairn wrote: Hello space friends; You may or may not be aware that I am running for CSM in 2012. No hurt feelings from me if you didn't know that; honestly, I only know it because I'm the one doing it. In any event, it seems to me that the CSM could benefit from a consolidated list of what you fine folks think with regards to the present state of Low Security Space. Iterations, improvements, additions, suggestions and all manner of constructive discussion are welcome! I realize that what I am asking is a bit out of the ordinary, because we have been trained to simply pick a politician based on what he claims to want and then to complain about the politicians who we perceive did not give us what we want. That is not the kind of politician that I am! I have no vested interest in or against Low Security Space. I bring no preconceived notions, no biases and no entanglements with me to the discussion. I just want a list of things that you, the People, would like to see done with regards to Low Security Space, and if I am elected then it is my solemn promise that I shall strive to the best of my ability to represent your expressed desires as a passionate advocate on your behalf. So that's my spiel. Whether or not you vote for me, how about contributing to a list of things you'd like to see? I, for one, am in love with Rifters. A vote for Lyris is a vote for Rifters. allow dictors to bubble hictors and mobiles no, but dictors yes Oh please no. I've been pirating for coming up on 4.5 years and if bubbles came to low sec I would quit EVE in a heartbeat. As for what I want in low sec, there is a good thread in the Assembly Hall that outlines some potential changes to the sec status system that would bring some PVP traffic to low sec. As for us 'lifers,' there needs to be a way to earn a more consistent income from pure PVP. For example: regional pirate corps (Serpentis, Angels, ect.) hire capsuleers to kill traffic passing through and pay a bounty based on the platinum insurance price on each player ship destroyed. That's just an example that I made up, but something to that effect would be welcome. There is no reason PVPers should be shoehorned into a play style we hate (grinding PVE) in order to fund the one we actually enjoy.
Cearain Imperial Outlaws 245	Posted - 2012.02.04 21:34:00 - [48] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: Cearain wrote: Lady Spank recomended that you would only get security increases from killing rats in low sec since concord doesn't even monitor null sec. Who pays out the bounties? Is there some other omni-present force that prints the isk to pay out on destruction of the evil Dire Pithi Infernos? I am under the impression it is concord. But back to my original point: Having a thread were everyone spews their 2 bit idea is not a good way to go about this. Making low sec the same as null sec with bubbles etc and thereby reducing options for players is a bad idea. If you want gatecamping to be even more mindless than it is in low sec, then go to null sec and use a bunch of bubbles. If thats not your thing then there is low sec. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 43	Posted - 2012.02.05 21:24:00 - [49] - Quote Cearain wrote: Making low sec the same as null sec with bubbles etc and thereby reducing options for players is a bad idea. Well, campers in low sec don't have the option of using bubbles. Adding them would increase the options of lowsec gatecamp players. Though gateguns would presumably pop bubbles that agress because of people trying to warp inside them, it probably wouldn't be worthwhile anyway. You can imagine a bunch of alts in newbie ships just winning the isk war or griefing campers by getting their bubbles blown up by gate guns.
Hans Jagerblitzen Autocannons Anonymous 874	Posted - 2012.02.05 21:37:00 - [50] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: Cearain wrote: Making low sec the same as null sec with bubbles etc and thereby reducing options for players is a bad idea. Well, campers in low sec don't have the option of using bubbles. Adding them would increase the options of lowsec gatecamp players. Though gateguns would presumably pop bubbles that agress because of people trying to warp inside them, it probably wouldn't be worthwhile anyway. You can imagine a bunch of alts in newbie ships just winning the isk war or griefing campers by getting their bubbles blown up by gate guns. You don't understand what Cearain is saying at all. Giving lowsec players the option to use bubbles decreases overall game play diversity in EvE. Many of us live in lowsec because of a very different type of fleetwork that can thrive in the absence of bubbles, bombs, and an entrenched supercap presence. It gives lowsec players one more OPTION to use in combat, but it would essentially make 0.0 and lowsec PvP the same, eliminating the need to even have two separate regions in the first place. Bubbles are exactly the kind of thing that slows down small gang warfare, and the reason why many of us get bored in null sec. No offense to those that enjoy the big stuff out there, its just there's a huge paying number of players who like a different style of PvP that would have their fun ruined by forcing too many similarities between 0.0 and low sec and basically homogenizing space more than it already is. Killing diversity is a step backward for EvE, and what I think a lot of those discussing development don't realize is that the way to achieve that diversity is by limiting the options players have in some area of space.
uredo ZERO HEAVY INDUSTRIES 1	Posted - 2012.02.07 10:15:00 - [51] - Quote My suggestion would be vote for Hans, not you. At least he lives there.
Cearain Imperial Outlaws 245	Posted - 2012.02.07 10:41:00 - [52] - Quote uredo wrote: My suggestion would be vote for Hans, not you. At least he lives there. Not to be rude to the op but this is really correct. The problem with people who don't live in low sec suggesting changes is that, they prefer some other area of space. So they tend to make suggestions that makes low sec more like the area of space they live in. Null seccers say low sec would be better with bubbles. Wormhole dwellers say low sec would be better with nerfed local. The thing is these things make eve less diverse, and make it so there is less to do in eve not more. The changes to low sec will need to be well thought out from people who have a good understanding of what is nice about living in low sec. Those differences need to then be carefully iterated on so that the strengths are further improved. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Retar Aveymone GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1	Posted - 2012.02.08 21:12:00 - [53] - Quote I would like more interesting lowsec as well!
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 8772	Posted - 2012.02.09 02:44:00 - [54] - Quote Cearain wrote: uredo wrote: My suggestion would be vote for Hans, not you. At least he lives there. Not to be rude to the op but this is really correct. The problem with people who don't live in low sec suggesting changes is that, they prefer some other area of space. So they tend to make suggestions that makes low sec more like the area of space they live in. Null seccers say low sec would be better with bubbles. Wormhole dwellers say low sec would be better with nerfed local. The thing is these things make eve less diverse, and make it so there is less to do in eve not more. The changes to low sec will need to be well thought out from people who have a good understanding of what is nice about living in low sec. Those differences need to then be carefully iterated on so that the strengths are further improved. And as for me, I think Low Sec would be better with more things to do. Faction Warfare should reward PVP participants more than it rewards people who just do the Level 4 mission grind in a Stealth Bomber; 0.4 space should not arbitrarily be less valuable than 0.3, 0.2 and 0.1 with regards to anchorable Starbase structures. Nothing that I am suggesting is going to try to make Low Sec more like Null Sec: that would be me advocating for myself, not advocating for YOU, my voters. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM.
Cearain Imperial Outlaws 252	Posted - 2012.02.09 04:25:00 - [55] - Quote Lyris Nairn wrote: Cearain wrote: uredo wrote: My suggestion would be vote for Hans, not you. At least he lives there. Not to be rude to the op but this is really correct. The problem with people who don't live in low sec suggesting changes is that, they prefer some other area of space. So they tend to make suggestions that makes low sec more like the area of space they live in. Null seccers say low sec would be better with bubbles. Wormhole dwellers say low sec would be better with nerfed local. The thing is these things make eve less diverse, and make it so there is less to do in eve not more. The changes to low sec will need to be well thought out from people who have a good understanding of what is nice about living in low sec. Those differences need to then be carefully iterated on so that the strengths are further improved. And as for me, I think Low Sec would be better with more things to do. Faction Warfare should reward PVP participants more than it rewards people who just do the Level 4 mission grind in a Stealth Bomber; 0.4 space should not arbitrarily be less valuable than 0.3, 0.2 and 0.1 with regards to anchorable Starbase structures. Nothing that I am suggesting is going to try to make Low Sec more like Null Sec: that would be me advocating for myself, not advocating for YOU, my voters. Those are all good ideas in theory. As far as awarding pvp in fw that would be nice but it gets tricky. If you just give lp for killing the enemy then people will put throw away alts in the other militia pay the insurance and blow their alts up. CCP can do some improvement on this mechanic, but there is that limit. IMO CCP needs to work on the plexing mechanic so that doing the plexes naturally brings about allot of pvp. How they go about doing that is the question. There are quite a few threads with different ideas. Read through them and post in them. Get feedback and give feedback. That is what Hans has been doing now for a while. Realistically its hard to see how you can just start doing this now and gain the confidence of low seccers before the election. Again I applaud your interest, I really do, but its sort of late this time around. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 8901	Posted - 2012.02.09 19:17:00 - [56] - Quote Cearain wrote: There are quite a few threads with different ideas. Read through them and post in them. Get feedback and give feedback. That is what Hans has been doing now for a while. Realistically its hard to see how you can just start doing this now and gain the confidence of low seccers before the election. Again I applaud your interest, I really do, but its sort of late this time around. I can completely understand and appreciate what you're saying and why you're saying it, and you're completely right. Were it my intention to farm "reputation," I could haveGÇöand should haveGÇöstarted on it early and sown my oats as wide as possible. As it happens that is not what I did. You have nothing but my assurances that I have paid attention to the threads that I started since announcing my interest in running for the CSM, and that my sole motivation for running in this race is to try out my new kicksGÇöI MEAN SERVE HONORABLY AND PASSIONATELY IN YOUR ADVOCACY. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM.
Hans Jagerblitzen Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance 1133	Posted - 2012.02.09 19:28:00 - [57] - Quote I wouldn't waste your time here, Cearain....Lyrius is a srs bizness candidate, she can handle her own. If she wants to win the election, she can listen to her boss, who knows how to get **** done.
Fractals 4Lyfe GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 24	Posted - 2012.02.09 19:37:00 - [58] - Quote Hans Jagerblitzen wrote: I wouldn't waste your time here, Cearain....Lyrius is a srs bizness candidate, she can handle her own. If she wants to win the election, she can listen to her boss, who knows how to get **** done. I don't know if you've been paying attention at all, but Lyris has noted multiple times that he is not running under a Goon platform, whatever that would be. He is not an official candidate; few if any goons are planning to vote for him. This is just a thing he is doing, and he actually is interested in doing this. I'm sure he would be happy to clear up this misconception himself, too.
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 65	Posted - 2012.02.09 19:44:00 - [59] - Quote Lyris Nairn wrote: Were it my intention to farm "reputation," I could haveGÇöand should haveGÇöstarted on it early and sown my oats as wide as possible. In the interest of continuing in the vein of this engaging and informative dialogue on an internet spaceships forum, please tell me more about sowing your oats. Fractals 4Lyfe wrote: He is not an official candidate; few if any goons are planning to vote for him. This is just a thing he is doing, and he actually is interested in doing this. I'm sure he would be happy to clear up this misconception himself, too. He damn well has. Here, but also in our top secret forums mentioned in the sig. The latter happens to be more important because that's where the Commissariat makes their home.
Hans Jagerblitzen Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance 1133	Posted - 2012.02.09 19:52:00 - [60] - Quote Fractals 4Lyfe wrote: Hans Jagerblitzen wrote: I wouldn't waste your time here, Cearain....Lyrius is a srs bizness candidate, she can handle her own. If she wants to win the election, she can listen to her boss, who knows how to get **** done. I don't know if you've been paying attention at all, but Lyris has noted multiple times that he is not running under a Goon platform, whatever that would be. He is not an official candidate; few if any goons are planning to vote for him. This is just a thing he is doing, and he actually is interested in doing this. I'm sure he would be happy to clear up this misconception himself, too. Did I say she was running under a Goon platform? My only comment is that if she wants votes, she should listen to the pros that have won before and seek out a core support group that you know can elect you before you begin campaigning, instead of asking people what they want and hoping that by the time election season's over you'll prove to them you can protect their interests. Besides, you don't have to run under a Goon platform to actually support the Goons. If you bleed off enough votes from the front-runner candidates, you help your core bloc by spreading other votes around amongst the opposition. Note that the Mittani likes to prop up every new candidate that enters the race. If you watch carefully, he'll tend to be harder on the front-runners amongst the non-blocs, and try to help the little guy. Now, that's not to say Mittens won't switch up his strategy this election, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Also, I'm sure Lyris's heart is in the right place here. She sounds very helpful and nice and all! I'm just letting the voters know what kind of political strategies have been run before so that voters can keep this in mind when listening to each of the candidates.

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