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Pan Jin
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Posted - 2004.03.12 21:39:00 -
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Edited by: Pan Jin on 12/03/2004 21:42:31
I already tried that...with no effect.
In my opinion its definatly a conflict with the radeon 9000 series
Has any1 got a link to where I can download some older version drivers from? Ones that have been known to work with this card?
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Death Wave
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Posted - 2004.03.13 06:25:00 -
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4.1 version works, you can download it off ati website
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cerated
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Posted - 2004.03.13 17:27:00 -
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I just wanted to say I am having this exact same problem with an ATI 8500 128. So it can't be limited to 9XXX series. Also the problem started after the game crashed and MS report said related to graphics card. I also rolled my drivers back to the original version I was running and now eve loads on the taskbar as an icon and does nothing. I have updated all drivers for all my hardware and then started to roll back the ATI driver. Oddly enough at each step something different happened. I did submit the DXDiag log to Eve and to ATI support. Though I will most likely format and redo my computer as I don't want to wait for someone to figure out what the real problem is. Basic warning is don't upgrade your graphics driver if your running an ATI and MS says you should.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.03.13 22:08:00 -
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No problems with Catalyst 4.3 for me - I'm running a ATI Radeon 9800 Pro/Audigy 2 sound/DirextX 9.0b.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Pan Jin
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Posted - 2004.03.14 11:16:00 -
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Ive got eve to work!
Wat I did was use the remove tool from www.ati.com and then downloaded the catalyst 4.1 drivers from the site. I removed all ATI drivers and software with the tool and then reinstalled fresh 4.1 drivers.
Works a treat :D
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.03.15 11:54:00 -
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http://www2.ati.com/drivers/wxp-w2k-catalyst-7-991-040224m-013831c.exe
Should work... I'm useing wxp-w2k-catalyst-7-981-040127m-013420c.exe at the moment, and it works fine. Gonna upgrade to test the newer driver 
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FlashBack
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Posted - 2004.03.15 16:39:00 -
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Having the same problem here.
Athlon 2800+
1Gb RAM
ATI Radeon 8500 (128mb)
Creative Soundblaster Live
at some point all characters in the game were bold, i didn't change drivers or what so ever. Since my system was packed with all kind of useless software i reinstalled (clean format) my system and installed all new drivers for my mainboard, video card, soundcard, etc. Now when starting up EVE i got the VPU recover error. Computer halted and cpu usage was at 99%. After reading a few forums i found out that it had something to do with the new ATI driver (catalyst) and all other drivers that where created from the same build (4.3).
Eventually the problem was solved by installing 4.1 catalyst drivers once more, but my characters are still bold. Has anyone fixed that problem yet?
Greetz,
Flash
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Orochi
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Posted - 2004.03.15 19:53:00 -
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One of the previous EVE patches rendered all of the character portraits in the game bald for me. I thought it might have been the ATI driver, but no matter how far back I rolled the driver, I could never regain the hair...
Then Catalyst 4.2 was released and I could no longer even run EVE. I rolled back to 4.1 and waited for either CCP or ATI to address the problem... 4.3 was released, and guess what? Still not fixed. Every other game/application works fine with the new drivers, so I suspect that there is some problem in EVE that causes this crash. Since it happens on the log-in screen, one would think it should be VERY EASY to track down. How much rendering code can there be on that ONE page?
Well, I have an ATI Radeon 9000 Pro. I believe the 9000 and 8500 use the same core processor, so that may be why they are responding the same way.
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Cabue
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Posted - 2004.03.17 16:49:00 -
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I have a Radeon 9000 Pro on Win2k. Upgraded to Catalyst 4.3 for another game, and EVE crashed my computer during EULA screen loading.
Went ahead and removed 4.3, went back to 4.1 and everything works fine. Glad someone figured it out before me
Stupid bug, and I hope they fix it soon. I dont want to have to choose between running EVE and running other games.
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Orochi
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Posted - 2004.03.17 18:43:00 -
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Well, I just tried an ATi Radeon 9600 XT, and it works perfectly, even with the Catalyst 4.3 drivers. Food for thought:
gpu card
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r360 Radeon 9800 XT
r350 Radeon 9800 Pro 256 <- works
r350 Radeon 9800 Pro <- works
r350 Radeon 9800
r350 Radeon 9800 SE
r300 Radeon 9700 Pro
r300 Radeon 9700
rv360 Radeon 9600 XT <- works
rv350 Radeon 9600 Pro
rv350 Radeon 9600
rv350 Radeon 9600 SE
r300 Radeon 9500 Pro
r300 Radeon 9500 128
r300 Radeon 9500 64
rv280 Radeon 9200 128 <- BROKEN
rv280 Radeon 9200 64 <- BROKEN
rv250 Radeon 9000 Pro <- BROKEN
r200 Radeon 8500 128 <- BROKEN
r200 Radeon 8500 64 <- BROKEN
It sounds like there is some glitch in the R2xx chipset that is causing the game to crash in the new drivers. It would seem prudent for CCP to contact ATi and ask what changed in the drivers for the r2xx chips. Either something is broken in the driver or they fixed something that CCP was taking advantage of (ala. old nVidia OpenGL texture clamping).
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Orochi
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Posted - 2004.03.17 18:43:00 -
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Well, I just tried an ATi Radeon 9600 XT, and it works perfectly, even with the Catalyst 4.3 drivers. Food for thought:
gpu card
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r360 Radeon 9800 XT
r350 Radeon 9800 Pro 256 <- works
r350 Radeon 9800 Pro <- works
r350 Radeon 9800
r350 Radeon 9800 SE
r300 Radeon 9700 Pro
r300 Radeon 9700
rv360 Radeon 9600 XT <- works
rv350 Radeon 9600 Pro
rv350 Radeon 9600
rv350 Radeon 9600 SE
r300 Radeon 9500 Pro
r300 Radeon 9500 128
r300 Radeon 9500 64
rv280 Radeon 9200 128 <- BROKEN
rv280 Radeon 9200 64 <- BROKEN
rv250 Radeon 9000 Pro <- BROKEN
r200 Radeon 8500 128 <- BROKEN
r200 Radeon 8500 64 <- BROKEN
It sounds like there is some glitch in the R2xx chipset that is causing the game to crash in the new drivers. It would seem prudent for CCP to contact ATi and ask what changed in the drivers for the r2xx chips. Either something is broken in the driver or they fixed something that CCP was taking advantage of (ala. old nVidia OpenGL texture clamping).
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Byronius
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Posted - 2004.03.22 18:02:00 -
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Just a head's up on the Radeon 9000 cards.
I have one of these installed on my machine, and after downloading and installing, ran into the same VPU problem.
Technically, the Radeon 9000's are not 'broke' so to speak.
I had recently updated my Catalyst drivers to 4.3,
Reviewed the article on the Help pages and ended up un-installing and re-updating my drivers.
I tried Version 4.1 first, still nothing.
I un-installed and downloaded V. 3.9.
Whalla, was able to get to the login screen and game runs smoothly (with the exception of occasional lag, but who's counting).
If you are running this card, try un-installing the current drivers and going with Catalyst V. 3.9.
This seemed to correct the problem, and the game has been fine.
Hope this clears up some issues with the Radeon 9000 card.
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Pope
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Posted - 2004.03.23 16:28:00 -
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Hi all,
Same here. I have a radeon 9000 and the graphics are causing the screen to freeze and unfreeze as mentioned above. I was using another graphics card this morning and everything was fine. (I think it was a geforce FX5600 Or something like that).
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Frelling Fharbot
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Posted - 2004.03.23 19:17:00 -
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I was having the same problem with my old 8500 64MB.
The EVE support knowledgebase has a page that acknowledges problems with the Cat 4.3 drivers and recommends reverting to 4.1 or 3.9.
Here's the key, though - you must uninstall your old drivers. Don't just run the install file for Cat 4.1 or 3.9.
Go here to get the Catalyst uninstall tool:
Cat-uninstaller
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Xandel Carivus
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Posted - 2004.04.10 18:22:00 -
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Edited by: Xandel Carivus on 10/04/2004 18:50:17
Its not just eve. It looks like ATI has just discontinuted support for thier 9200 and lower cards in a pretty underhanded way. If you install any of thier newer drivers on a 9200 or lower card the prefromance drops to the point that you see lag just opening your web browser.
Looks like they want everyone to go out and buy a 9600 pro or 9800 GFX card. I suggest anyone with a ATI card consider getting an NVIDIA Gforce next time they upgrade. ATI is just trying to sqeeze out a few more bux.
Whats great is if you want any customer support on this issue the number to call is a 1-900 and 1.25 USD per minute. ATI offers no email support or free 1-800. When you call them and ask about this driver problem they just waste your time and money and in the end tell you to upgrade.
ATI Customer Support
This seems to happen on intel and amd boards alike. Wanna play new games that require drivers newer then cat 3.9 you gotta upgrade (this time hopfully to nvidia).
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Photekk Oblivion
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Posted - 2004.04.16 15:03:00 -
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Basically here's how I fixed this, I have:
Radeon 9200 128MB
AMD Athlon XP 1800+
Asus A7V266E-AA motherboard with a VIA KT266 chipset
Windows XP - (eXtra Problems)
DirectX 9.0b
Uninstall ALL your drivers including ATI CP etc., delete the ATI folder on your C: drive ie: c:\ati\ then reboot.
Cancel out of the new hardware wizard.
Install Catalyst 4.1 drivers.
Install Catalyst 4.1 Control Panel.
Run Eve.
Enjoy Eve.
Make Money in Eve.
See some simple steps to get you there, don't go upgrading your bios, mainboard drivers etc. it's 100% a video driver issue.
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Photekk Oblivion
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Posted - 2004.04.16 15:11:00 -
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Edited by: Photekk Oblivion on 16/04/2004 15:15:46
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Edited by: Xandel Carivus on 10/04/2004 18:50:17
Its not just eve. It looks like ATI has just discontinuted support for thier 9200 and lower cards in a pretty underhanded way. If you install any of thier newer drivers on a 9200 or lower card the prefromance drops to the point that you see lag just opening your web browser.
Looks like they want everyone to go out and buy a 9600 pro or 9800 GFX card. I suggest anyone with a ATI card consider getting an NVIDIA Gforce next time they upgrade. ATI is just trying to sqeeze out a few more bux.
Whats great is if you want any customer support on this issue the number to call is a 1-900 and 1.25 USD per minute. ATI offers no email support or free 1-800. When you call them and ask about this driver problem they just waste your time and money and in the end tell you to upgrade.
ATI Customer Support
This seems to happen on intel and amd boards alike. Wanna play new games that require drivers newer then cat 3.9 you gotta upgrade (this time hopfully to nvidia).
I don't mean to go off topic here, and yes this is going to sound like a flame, but it's not.
Do you have any idea what you just said? That's like saying go out and buy a 1993 Honda Accord and get rid of that nice Corvette you have.
The Radeon 9200 being the first ATI card I've owned, I surely will never ever switch back to NVidia. If you want some real comparisons on the ATI vs. NVidia instead of the synthetic benchmarks you get most places, go check out HardOCP.
As for 3.9 drivers. 4.1 is the minimum you can use with 9200. When I was going through the process of trying to get my video card working, the 3.9 driver won't even run the card. 4.1 will, 4.3 will, 4.4 will, but 3.9 just causes the computer to reboot everytime any application (game) that requires the video layer to be run is started up. So why would you bring up 3.9 drivers?
As for support, all companies are like that, not just ATI. I work for HP and I can tell you, if your product is more than 90 days old, some cases you get a year warranty, you pay $30 for ONE TIME support on a printer that probably cost you $60 in the first place.
As for this issue that people are having running Eve, it is an Eve issue, not an ATI video card/driver issue. I can run everything, and I mean everything, just fine, except Eve. I had never in my life seen a VPU reset error till I ran Eve, and I run a LOT of games. UT 2003, Quake 3, SWG, PlanetSide, EQ, Neocron, BF1942, etc. etc. etc.
So on that note, expecting ATI to give you free support to get someone else's product working on your computer is outrageous. That's like calling me up at HP and saying "M$ Word won't format my resume properly, your printer is broke". Get a grip man.
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Bilb
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Posted - 2004.04.16 15:41:00 -
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i have a radeon 9000 pro running on windows 2000. Ive tried every driver, but since castor i havent seen hair on peeps and since the last couple of patches i can see missles. The hair i could live with, but the missles thing is a bit hair raising to say the least. I have done all the normal stuff, upgrade drivers (properly i know) and downgrade. Help anyone
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Imhotep Wade
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Posted - 2004.04.16 17:56:00 -
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For the record, the problem cards are non-DX9 cards. Eve claims to require DX9.0b installed, but does not necessarily require dx9 compatible card!?
In any event dx9 cards are
9600/9700/9800 no problems.
The rest seem to be shaky depending on the drivers used. This would imply Ati is tooling around with the dx9 feature emulation in these drivers.
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Archemedes
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Posted - 2004.04.17 06:29:00 -
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I had the same problem with my Radeon 8500LE card. EVE wouldn't run after I upgraded Win98 to XP and downloaded the Catalyst 4.4 driver, but everything else ran great so it's not a deliberate attempt by ATI to make me upgrade... 
From all the threads on this I've read and the fact that going back to Catalyst 3.7 fixed the problem (though I can probably upgrade to 3.9 safely from the sound of things), I strongly suspect that ATI's DX9 emulation is not compatible with EVE (or rather EVE isn't compatible with ATI's emulation) so you can't use a DX9-optimized driver with EVE on the non-DX9 ATI cards. Hopefully ATI or CCP will fix this soon, since there is NO reason to require DX9 hardware support in EVE... it ran GREAT on DX9 cards before and they haven't really added anything. 
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Talliostro
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Posted - 2004.04.17 16:20:00 -
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Hi verybody,
I got the same problem for days now, but solved it today :)
I have a Sapphire Radeon 9700 PRO and got the VPU message with every driver (3.9-4.4).
Here is how I solved it:
Go into the BIOS and disable AGP Fastwrites and set the AGP 8x Support to disable.
Now I have no problems anymore with EVE or the VPU. I use Cata 3.9. now :)
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plunker
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Posted - 2004.04.25 19:49:00 -
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im suprised at the lack of response from ccp, this seems like a serious issue... i wouldntve said anything, but then i had to update my drivers for a new game, and i find out that eve doesnt work on the updated driver. thats kind of ridiculous.
is there some sort of solution out there?
and if ccp did respond in another related thread, can someone lead me to it. cuz im hella lost
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vanBuskirk
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Posted - 2004.04.25 21:39:00 -
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I have to say I am glad other people are having this problem; means CCP might take this issue seriously.
I upgraded from a creaky old Radeon 7000 to a 9600XT, specifically to play eve. Installed Catalyt 4.3 from the card's CD - broke eve.
Installed 4.4 - eve ran just fine. This was build 1413.
After the 1424 build came out, and after installing 1424 from a full-build file (took 2 goes, thank God for broadband) eve won't run on exactly the same setup.
Tried what tech support told me, which was reinstall directx, rollback catalyst to 4.1 and reinstall eve - system was so unstable I thought a windows reinstall was going to be needed.
I am NOT going to reinstall windows for any one game, no matter how good. EVERYTHING else works fine.
The problem was caused by the change from 1413 to 1424 - how hard can it be?
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Vane Ekhart
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Posted - 2004.04.25 22:49:00 -
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I must admit being a bit annoyed that CCP are baosting about their new 'users online record' when so many of us, especially those of us with ATI Radeon cards, cannot even get the client running.
Talk about a half hearted effort on compatibility.
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Vane Ekhart
The New Law in Town!!! |
Fuujin
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Posted - 2004.04.26 00:33:00 -
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rollback to 3.9 and it will run
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The sword has to be more than a simple weapon; it has to be an answer to life's questions
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Vane Ekhart
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Posted - 2004.04.26 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: Fuujin
rollback to 3.9 and it will run
Tried that - no dice!
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Vane Ekhart
The New Law in Town!!! |
Ernie000
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Posted - 2004.04.27 13:01:00 -
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I have ATi 9600XT 128 MB RAM (fireblade, faster DDR RAM). And I too have suffered from several crash to desktops, and total system freezes that need a power off and reboot.
My Solution - Memtest86 - it found I had a bad stick of memory. New memory still didn't stop Eve crashing/freezing the whole system.
Solution 2 - BIOS Config:
(a) Reduce RAM timings to slowest settings.
(b) Turn off Fast Writes.
(c) Video RAM Cacheable - Disabled (previously Enabled).
Solution 2 has solved the problem and my system is totally stable. I've not had a crash in over a week.
Windowed Mode: I run Eve in windowed mode, it seems to be more stable, and it allows me to Alt-Tab between Eve and my Evenotes/spreadsheets (market, bpc, mins etc).
System:
Windows 2000 SP 4 and all fixes,
DirectX latest (9b),
OpenGL latest,
ATi 9600XT and drivers from 3.9-4.4 all work now,
AMD Athlon 1600XP,
512 MB RAM PC133 SDRAM,
Abit KT7A-RAID (not in RAID setup),
VIA Hyperion 4-in-1 drivers latest.
VIA Hardware Monitor:
Vcore 1.75v
3.3v = 3.40
5v = 4.86
12V = 12.07
CPU Temp 48'C
System Temp 27'C
My system is not overclocked.
Eve is very RAM hungry, it needs about 200MB of RAM on my system using Task Manager to monitor it.
I hope this helps some of you with improving your system stability so it can run Eve. No other games seem to cause crashes like Eve does.
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Imhotep Wade
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Posted - 2004.04.30 19:13:00 -
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I solved general stability issues by getting rid of VIA long ago. Those folks are bozos that need to get a clue. My nforce is solid as a rock. I never have to reboot except when XP decides to forget how to log into my Samba server.
The via is working great as a Samba server, but as a gaming and general desktop box, it sucked heavily.
I also dumped Abit. Don't know if I should really blame them as much as Via, but I'm an Asus man now.
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X'Alor
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Posted - 2004.04.30 19:37:00 -
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Edited by: X'Alor on 30/04/2004 20:02:21
Not sure if this helps at all..........but
I have found a catalyst 4.4 driver.
I got an ASUS P4R800-VM motherboard. It was one the first motherboards to use the new ATI 9100 IGP. the 9100 IGP chip is basically an ati 9200 VPU
they did not have the bios programming complete yet being that board is a new release and was having various graphical Issues.
i recently fell into a software problem that caused me to have to reformat the whole deal.
I had to reformat, reinstall the updated bios, reinstall all drivers. after i had bios fixed and xp pro reinstalled, that was when I found the catalyst 4.4 driver.
not sure if the 4.4 driver is specifically for the IGP chip but since i've done this and found the new ati driver..........excellent game play.
Ati also recomends that you unistall previous drivers before installing a new one. I normally do it that way but said......what the heck, lets just load it. i installed the new ATI driver right over the old one the way the suggest you NOT do it and it works great.
Just 2 cents worth of info but hope it helps.
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Dark Dynamite
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Posted - 2004.05.10 23:44:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Dynamite on 10/05/2004 23:50:27
Edited by: Dark Dynamite on 10/05/2004 23:48:51
My setup:
Mobo: Gigabite GA-7VT600
Processor: AMD 2600+
Mem: 1GB PC3200 400Mhz DDR RAM
Videocard: Ati 9600 pro 128MB
Try the DNA drivers for a change :)
made in holland :D
Working really good with eve on my Ati Radeon 9600 pro 128MB DDR.
DNA-Drivers
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