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Memnoch Obsidian
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Posted - 2007.11.06 13:33:00 -
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Edited by: Memnoch Obsidian on 06/11/2007 13:32:56 My main is a hardcore PVP char so I figured I would try the carebearing side.
I might wanna try making my own corp someday so I thought a high standing could come in handy when setting up a POS etc.
And I also thought he could make me some money while running missions.
BUT the money-making is not that great - in fact it sucks compared to ratting and trading.
And the LP rewards are not that good either - compared to the time and effort invested.
Not to mention that missionrunning is mindnumbingly boring...
So my question to all you fellow missionrunners is simply this: why do you run missions?
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Yarry McYaryar
Caldari Lords of Maelstrom Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.06 13:37:00 -
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well if your in empire with no access to rats then mission running lvl 3 or 4's would prolly be one of the best ways to make iskies wihtout miening Etc...
if you want good missions wiht good LP store items come check out 0.0 pirate agents, they are alot nicer than empire ones due to the fact that there in 0.0 and what not, so u can ALSO rat, which is nice incase u need to inject your wallet right fast ------------------------------------------------ my main is Packa Real ppl use their mains to post on the forums, but they can atleast tell you their main, anyone else should be [b]con |

Carniflex
Caldari Fallout Research Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.11.06 17:35:00 -
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For isk.
Better than mining and I like implants I can't afford so it's obvious solution.
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Stefx
Gallente Moons of Pluto
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Posted - 2007.11.06 17:36:00 -
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Originally by: Memnoch Obsidian Edited by: Memnoch Obsidian on 06/11/2007 13:32:56 why do you run missions?
For isk and/or standing, mainly. LP is a secondary bonus.
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FT Diomedes
Gallente Ductus Exemplo
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Posted - 2007.11.06 17:44:00 -
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My main account is a PvP account in a 0.0 alliance. I run missions because they are fun. I really enjoy running them, especially against the Amarr and Caldari. It's fun to fit out a nice faction BS and go kill vast numbers of my faction's enemies. It just fulfills some roleplaying need.
Missions also feel somewhat more realistic to me. They have more scenery and a more plausible, if repetitive, backstory. Why are there always these rat battleships hanging out in asteroid belts. Don't they want to go have a good time at Krull's Pleasure Hub? Or set up a secret jump portal to infiltrate my faction's space? Or kidnap my bosses' daughter?
Life in 0.0 is more serious and more akin to work. When I rat, I rat for my alliance. I do it so that I can sell the alloys to my corp and they can keep producing ships for sale and PvP. Ratting makes me more ISK/hour if I am uninterrupted, but a hostile roaming gang can put a real damper on my ability to make ISK.
I usually rat or PvP on one account while running missions on my other account. Usually, that means courier missions (building standing with Gallente Federation or R&D corps). Or I run missions with dual characters to speed them up even more. ------------
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Jonak
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.11.06 17:45:00 -
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I do missions for 0 tax standings with corps for refining ores. Farming ore from some mission fields and some mission structures have some decent loot drops. But mission runners are punished with negative standings with NPC corps that can make your free roaming ventures...a little rough. 
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Packe
Minmatar Cosmic Odyssey YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.11.06 17:47:00 -
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For standings to get:
1) Jump Clones. 2) Datacores. 3) Empire POS.
I dont loot missions, and always short cut them if I can. Getting standings is the only real grind in Eve.
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Ceremony Garp
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Posted - 2007.11.06 17:48:00 -
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I 'mainly' run missions because that particular aspect of gameplay suits my life. I have three young children, all under ten. As any other parent in here will know, they can be demanding and these demands are strangely enough not co-ordinated very well with regards to convenient times, lol. One way I found to circumvent this is to fit a cloak to almost every ship I have, so if I ma needed real quick because of tears or upset of some sort with one of the children, I can simply warp to a planet, cloak and deal with it w/o fear of coming back to a pod.
I sometimes go out pvp'ing with my alliance or corp but I simply cannot fly about for several hours until 3 or 4am.
So, mission running for me suits what I need. I obviously build up lots of LP's and isk, which I generally distribute around my corp to the hardcore pvp'ers as they rarely have time for building up funds. I also build up a decent [personal] mini-fleet of ships, which is very handy as sometimes I go out roaming by myelf but lacking pvp expeience often renders me either back in a station or W20 in meh egg, lol.
The recent alterations to mission running has also meant that there IS much more of a risk factor involved in mission running, which for me, is much better.
I'd like to pvp more, but alas, until the little ones are old enough to scout for me with their own accounts, lol, I shall remain 80% mission running / 20% pvp.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.11.06 17:49:00 -
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Originally by: Packe For standings to get: 1) Jump Clones. 2) Datacores. 3) Empire POS. I dont loot missions, and always short cut them if I can. Getting standings is the only real grind in Eve.
I was about to post that !  _
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Tsanse Kinske
WeMeanYouKnowHarm
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Posted - 2007.11.06 18:03:00 -
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For the challenge partly. I've always liked running missions in ships and with fits that aren't recommended for it. And compared to PvP it's a very controlled challenge. You know where to go to get a mission, how long it will take, what you'll get, and it's easy to see the effect of tweaking your setup or strategy.
Partly for RP. I'm hardly any kind of RPer at all, but in the back of my mind I like having high standings with Minni, and low standings with Amarr, and the idea of working for Republic Security, Krusual, Thukker, and Gurista.
Partly for profit, though early on I figured out that there were better sources of income, though with some drawbacks compared to missions. * * * In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
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DARTHxFREE
G.R.U.N.T
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Posted - 2007.11.06 18:22:00 -
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BUT the money-making is great, if your gud at blitzing them for just fast isk/bounty
To say is sucks vs ratting/trading is comparing to a trading spec char or a lucky officer find. /join Cheeze & Whine Club
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Pwett
Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2007.11.06 18:51:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Packe For standings to get: 1) Jump Clones. 2) Datacores. 3) Empire POS. I dont loot missions, and always short cut them if I can. Getting standings is the only real grind in Eve.
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Standings Only. _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
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Jezabel2
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Posted - 2007.11.06 19:39:00 -
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money!!! fun, and roleplaying.
We have incoming missles Sir!!!
Brace for contact, Son.
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Xaen
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.11.06 21:26:00 -
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Relatively safe (guaranteed) ISK. Ratting in 0.0 can be dicey. Empire jump clones that don't depend on player corps (standings) Affordable implants.
Is it fun? Only moderately. I'd be a lot happier if the missions were shorter (like duo of death lvl 4) and had a proportionate payout. That way I don't have to set aside an hour to play.
Apparently CCP thinks more rats = harder. It's more of a grind really.
I'd much prefer fewer, harder rats. Or a few with really absurd tanks than 50 easy kills. -- Support fixing the EVE UI | Suggest Jita fixes
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2007.11.06 22:03:00 -
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Originally by: Xaen
Apparently CCP thinks more rats = harder. It's more of a grind really.
I'd much prefer fewer, harder rats. Or a few with really absurd tanks than 50 easy kills.
More incoming dps/ewar/whatever = harder. Tougher rat tanks just means a longer grind. Imho.
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Xaen
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.11.06 22:18:00 -
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Originally by: Qui Shon
Originally by: Xaen
Apparently CCP thinks more rats = harder. It's more of a grind really.
I'd much prefer fewer, harder rats. Or a few with really absurd tanks than 50 easy kills.
More incoming dps/ewar/whatever = harder. Tougher rat tanks just means a longer grind. Imho.
I reiterate for those with your level of attention paid to what was said/reading comprehension: Or a few with really absurd tanks than 50 easy kills. -- Support fixing the EVE UI | Suggest Jita fixes
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gpfwestie
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Posted - 2007.11.06 22:23:00 -
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For ISK, so I can afford to PVP.
And I am terrible at PVP, so I end up doing a lot of missions 
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Scimon Tinker
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Posted - 2007.11.06 22:41:00 -
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Edited by: Scimon Tinker on 06/11/2007 22:41:51 hey hey
for specific reasons when required.
1. Isk grind when im poor 2. StuffÖ (loot collecting for supplies) 3. Standings (need 9.91 to gallente for a friends christmas pressie) 4. Salvage. (i done some mission specifically cause i wanted a couple of cargohold rigs built for a mate.)
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Acoustio
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Posted - 2007.11.06 23:24:00 -
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For: Isk, Fun, Relaxation with some friends, Aggroing everything to try out my tank, to have something to do when I have no time to invest myself properly into the game well.
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L0st S0ul
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.11.07 15:45:00 -
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Why do I mission run ?
Safe money making.
Salvage
Access to higher level missions and agents
Good stuff from storyline agents
Gives me combat without being shot down by someone with far more skills and experience than me. -----------------------------------------------
Come on you apes, you wanna live forever?
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2007.11.07 16:30:00 -
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Edited by: Qui Shon on 07/11/2007 16:33:59
Originally by: Xaen
Originally by: Qui Shon
Originally by: Xaen
Apparently CCP thinks more rats = harder. It's more of a grind really.
I'd much prefer fewer, harder rats. Or a few with really absurd tanks than 50 easy kills.
More incoming dps/ewar/whatever = harder. Tougher rat tanks just means a longer grind. Imho.
I reiterate for those with your level of attention paid to what was said/reading comprehension: Or a few with really absurd tanks than 50 easy kills.
More total NPC tank = longer time to complete = grind. Check, still true, Tougher mission, meaning more chance of being killed = more incoming dps/ewar. Also checked, still true.
If you, in your brief inexact sentence that leaves room for various interpretations, are trying to propose keeping total rat tank hp & dps output the same, just concentrated in fewer ships. Well, that would just make it easier, not harder, for the experienced runner, while the newb might not be able to bring the dps neccesary to break the tank of a strong npc.
Numerous weaker targets increases workload for those of us who use more then one ship, thereby increasing risk to loose at least drones and maybe even a ship (not likely with L4's for experienced runners, but still.)
Btw, full aggro on The Assault, including 2nd spawn, looks really good with all those incoming streams of missiles. Fewer rats means no more beauty of that kind.
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Dragon Lord
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.11.07 18:11:00 -
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Edited by: Dragon Lord on 07/11/2007 18:13:43 Why do i mission run? isk, lp's standing are three reasons, but the main reason is i like faction toys and since faction + pvp is a very bad idea unless ur entity then i guess my pimped out cnr will just have to rip through missions like nothing else :]
Oh and id prefer less rats but harder ones to kill, ie they have better tanks and hit u fro more dps. Main reason is because lots of npc's = lots of lag
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Omarvelous
Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2007.11.07 19:34:00 -
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Setting up bookmarks to come by later to probe out other mission runners? 
Sadly, my probing skills suck (for now ) - and it's gone the other way, Ive been probed out trying to setup a place to probe out others...   __________________________________________________ Sup brosef! Destry's Lounge is looking for a few good drunks - contact me in game.
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RedMage
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Posted - 2007.11.07 20:55:00 -
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Edited by: RedMage on 07/11/2007 20:56:25 I like missions for when PVP has been bad for a week, and 0.0 ratting came with an unexpected surprise of BOB\MC\RaGoon\AAA cloging up your stations and pipes.
Missions can be good to get some of your younger guys into the swing of things.
To speed things up... go multiple! Get the newer guys to fly AF's or cruisers to insta-POP! the NPC frigs, or even in some hurricanes or myrmidons.
Duel boxing it (or running duel monitors/video cards on a good box) Helps, because you can go BS/Logistics or duel BS to speed threw them and move on with your life.
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Divideby0
Gallente Cloak and Daggers Knights Of Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.07 21:01:00 -
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For standings to get Datacores mostly. Its quick, easy money. Occasionally it is a challenge. Salvage for making rigs, and loot for minerals I cant usually get in empire.
Who is the bigger carebear: The miner who braves lowsec on his own, or the "PvPer" who attacks an unarmed ship? I support the f |

Elle D
Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.07 23:34:00 -
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I can make more on missions by selling the LP items for 1500:1 isk:LP ratio. It's safer than ratting and storylines give me sweet +4s
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Umamasyean
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Posted - 2007.11.11 12:21:00 -
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First off, I would like to say that EVE pve sucks. The RP sucks. All the missions are like repeats of one another. You just interchange "Serpentis" with "Blood Raiders" and whatever other faction or NPC name there is in the database. There is no "story" worth jack in this game and the writers have practically no creative talent....or they simply never hired any real writers. The computer has practically NO AI. I mean Pac-Man has more AI. So yeah, I know what you mean by boring. But I did them anyway for whatever reason, just like anyone else.
I did missions to see what it was like to do the next level of missions and make isk in the beginning.
What I found out was after a while, looting was so tedious that I just did the missions to get to the next level of missions. Level 4 mission loot and salvage is worth it.
Then I did level 4 missions to get the faction needed to get 0% tax on all the items I wanted to reprocess...and found out that it wasn't really worth the effort because I'm not going melt down that much stuff anyway. Maybe for a busy indy character it would pay off in the long run, I guess.
I never spent any LP or anything until I wanted a 10 mil isk book iirc, because I finally decide that even though the LP is "worth more" than 10 mil isk imho, I had nothing else to do with the LP anyway...because I thought those cheezy ships were waaaayyy not worth the effort to collect the LP needed to buy them.
I also found that it takes far far FAR longer to train the skills needed for the next mission level that to actually gain the faction needed to use the next agent level. You are prolly using a skilled characterąand if so, one the positive note, this means that you can prolly grind it pretty fast since you donĘt have to wait on necessary skill training, etc. to get to the point where you can get a station or whatever. Only problem is that some level 1 mission allow only ships up to a destroyer, so you can *****them with a battleship.
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Memnoch Obsidian
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Posted - 2007.11.11 20:25:00 -
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Thanks a lot for all your comments.
I have yet to discover a really good reason to run all those missions so I guess I'll go back to PVP 
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zcpr4
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Posted - 2007.11.11 23:33:00 -
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Originally by: Ceremony Garp I 'mainly' run missions because that particular aspect of gameplay suits my life. I have three young children, all under ten. As any other parent in here will know, they can be demanding and these demands are strangely enough not co-ordinated very well with regards to convenient times, lol. One way I found to circumvent this is to fit a cloak to almost every ship I have, so if I ma needed real quick because of tears or upset of some sort with one of the children, I can simply warp to a planet, cloak and deal with it w/o fear of coming back to a pod.
I sometimes go out pvp'ing with my alliance or corp but I simply cannot fly about for several hours until 3 or 4am.
So, mission running for me suits what I need. I obviously build up lots of LP's and isk, which I generally distribute around my corp to the hardcore pvp'ers as they rarely have time for building up funds. I also build up a decent [personal] mini-fleet of ships, which is very handy as sometimes I go out roaming by myelf but lacking pvp expeience often renders me either back in a station or W20 in meh egg, lol.
The recent alterations to mission running has also meant that there IS much more of a risk factor involved in mission running, which for me, is much better.
I'd like to pvp more, but alas, until the little ones are old enough to scout for me with their own accounts, lol, I shall remain 80% mission running / 20% pvp.
I love the way you look at things  Your words made me rethink about making few "little ones" , but then, i would need to wait a lot longer than you for them to grow up and scout for me 
Jokes aside, i went through job change, so i dont have enough time to pvp now, which can be very time consuming, and after that ratting to make up losses ... If i stayed in 0.0, i might be kikcked out for inactivity, becouse sometimes i just cannot log for a whole week :(. So i'm back to missions, boring as it is 
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