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PCaBoo RennTech SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.06 20:27:00 - [61] Originally by: Imperator Jora'h It is this part right here. Dedicated drone boats essentially have two primary weapon systems. As a result you saw ships like the NOS Domi. It didn't need guns...just drain you dry and wail on you with drones. Of course NOS got nerfed as a result but you still have the issue. Your Domi is blasting away at me with guns and drones and I have to somehow drop your drone leaving your main ship essentially untouched. No one else can do this (at least their drones are a minor enough threat that they can be ignored to an extent). The end result is other ships are at a serious disadvantage. Smaller ships get eaten alive by drones and bigger ships have a hard time killing them. Guns will not track them, smartbombs are useful but hard to fit and fire, their own drones are disadvantaged versus the droneboats drones (they lack the bonuses). There is a reason Gallente ships are so popular in battle and drones are the main reason. Each ship gets different bonuses... I spent a long time training my drone skills (while neglecting my gunnery) to be a good drone user. You're saying because I can use drones well and my ship gives a bonus for it, that all my training should be nerfed because you fly a different ship with different strengths?! That's absurd. Drones are not overpowered. I have 6.5msp in drones. I have bc5, bs5, and I can't even come close to breaking a drakes passive tank, solo (in my myrm or domi). Do you think that's fair? People need to stop being whiny asshats about losing in fights. Instead of asking for CCP to nerf everything to try and make yourself uber, why not try adapting to the problems you face. Hell, you people are always the ones telling us to adapt to changes. Hypocritical *****s. Originally by:** Phantom Slave I'll let you have your large drones in your myrmidon, the day I get to use a full rack of tachyon's or mega-pulse's on my Harbinger. Until then, don't even try to argue that it isn't a medium-class ship. It's a slightly larger Cruiser, but it's still smaller than a Battleship. Well then, I suppose SB's should be removed completely from the game. They are frigates with bs sized weapons! OMG! I've said it a hundred times already, but i'll say it again. People won't be happy til we get nerfed back to fighting in Velator's and Ibis'. You sheep will be happy though, cuz it'll be Tech3. ________________________________ I hate you, too.
Phantom Slave Amarr Mozzaki United	Posted - 2007.11.06 20:32:00 - [62] Originally by: PCaBoo Well then, I suppose SB's should be removed completely from the game. They are frigates with bs sized weapons! OMG! And yet SB's were designed to use those weapons. Myrmidon's weren't designed to use BS sized weapons, just like every other BC isn't designed to use BS sized weapons. Taking an exception to the rule doesn't make every other exception true. If BC's were supposed to use BS sized weapons, we'd have a ton more powergrid, CPU, Cap, and Bonuses for them. ____________________ Changes on Sisi are NOT the end of the world. Wait until Rev III/Trinity is released before drawing conclusions.
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2007.11.06 20:39:00 - [63] Originally by: PCaBoo Each ship gets different bonuses... I spent a long time training my drone skills (while neglecting my gunnery) to be a good drone user. You're saying because I can use drones well and my ship gives a bonus for it, that all my training should be nerfed because you fly a different ship with different strengths?! That's absurd. Drones are not overpowered. I have 6.5msp in drones. I have bc5, bs5, and I can't even come close to breaking a drakes passive tank, solo (in my myrm or domi). Do you think that's fair? That you chose to ignore guns is your own lookout. The fact remains that Gallente essentially get two primary weapon systems on some of their ships. I would go with your assessment if ALL a drone ship could use for offense was drones but that is not the case. The Domi gets a bonus to guns and a DOUBLE bonus to drones! Most everyone else gets a primary weapon and a secondary in their drones.
PCaBoo RennTech SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.06 20:40:00 - [64] Originally by: Phantom Slave And yet SB's were designed to use those weapons. Myrmidon's weren't designed to use BS sized weapons, just like every other BC isn't designed to use BS sized weapons. Taking an exception to the rule doesn't make every other exception true. If BC's were supposed to use BS sized weapons, we'd have a ton more powergrid, CPU, Cap, and Bonuses for them. Well then I suppose all long range ships w/o a bonus to range/falloff should be nerfed, since they were not intended to be snipers. Get a grip. I can't take this nonsense anymore. I can't wait til someone whines about something you specialize in, and you feel the nerfbat. It'll be even better when you come to cry on the forums about it, but there won't be anyone here to hear your cries, since most of the playerbase will be gone. I think it's funny how people describe this game. You never get the same answer twice, cuz every month the game is changed to suit someone else. ________________________________ I hate you, too.
Liisa Lost Terra Technology	Posted - 2007.11.06 20:41:00 - [65] Originally by: PCaBoo People need to stop being whiny asshats about losing in fights. Instead of asking for CCP to nerf everything to try and make yourself uber, why not try adapting to the problems you face. Hell, you people are always the ones telling us to adapt to changes. Hypocritical ******s. I take exception to that. I am a diehard minmatar pilot who has rolled with a lot of punches. I have trained drones over 2.5 mil sps, missiles over 2.5 mil etc etc. I have specialized in everything minmatar, including the faction ships and, quite honestly, have enjoyed them even when they were considered rubbish. Concentrating on one thing to the degree that you have done means you are open to being hit hard by a (in this case needed) nerf, while I just shrug and continue to plod on. You see, I can* adapt because I have my skillpoints spread around enough. You, being so heavily specced on drones, cannot. Signature Your signature exceeds the 24000 byte limit allowed on the forums. -Darth Patches
Phantom Slave Amarr Mozzaki United	Posted - 2007.11.06 20:44:00 - [66] I fly Amarr, how much worse can it get? All joking aside, I do hope I get to feel the nerfbat. I really do. At least then I'll know that what I am using is overpowered and whined about. I'll know that I at least got to play with an overpowered ship or setup. And no, I won't whine about it. I'll accept the fact that after complaints, CCP evaluated the situation and decided that my ship/setup should be nerfed. I'll live with it. It's just a game, and we're flying internet spaceships. Why take it so seriously? ____________________ Changes on Sisi are NOT the end of the world. Wait until Rev III/Trinity is released before drawing conclusions.
Galan Amarias Amarr Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.11.06 21:01:00 - [67] Originally by: PCaBoo Well then I suppose all long range ships w/o a bonus to range/falloff should be nerfed, since they were not intended to be snipers. Get a grip. I can't take this nonsense anymore. I can't wait til someone whines about something you specialize in, and you feel the nerfbat. It'll be even better when you come to cry on the forums about it, but there won't be anyone here to hear your cries, since most of the playerbase will be gone. I think it's funny how people describe this game. You never get the same answer twice, cuz every month the game is changed to suit someone else. Your mistake was in ignoring your guns. It's like a Caldari learning only missles and not rails and then screaming bloody murder that they can't use a Rokh. Big waahh. Or a Matari who learns only missles, or only armor, or only shields.... It's true specilazation gives big rewards in EVE but hyperspecilization is not the same thing. I managed T2 medium drones under 2mil SP. Just try and get yourself some T2 Med Pulse lasers on 2million. You may be able to use them but you won't have the subskills to hit the broad side of a tripple webbed Nyx. Oh and if you want to use T2 beams... well that's a whole different skill. Or a different example. On just over 5million SP I am able to use T2 Large Pulse Lasers. Note That's not enough for the Beams, just pulse. I'll be very close to or over 6 million SP in gunnery when I can use the beams as well. With less than 4 million in Drones I am able to use T2 meds, t2 smalls (heck those were the same skill for the love of god) and I'm less than 30 days off T2 heavies. Would you rather drones were brought into line with guns on required skill to use? For the reccord I already have DI 5 you won't like my T1 ogeres w/o drone bonuses on my Geddon. BS sized drones on a BC was overpowered. It might not have been if the "drone boat" had no other offensive systems. It was less overpowered after the much needed Nos nerf. However it was still overpowered. Now as to that fail you call a retort, lets assume you are right and 60%+ of the playerbase abandons EVE because the Myrm got nerfed. Wouldn't that mean that 60% or more were flying Galentee? If over half the population is concentrated in one race there must be something special holding them there. Something unbalenced.... eh? As for the game changing, that's a good MMO, the crappy ones don't change or change only incrementally. People get bored in a few months and leave. I'll stick with my vibrant evolving comunity and the shocked look on faces when my Pilgrim uncloaks and wtfpwns people. After all that's not supposed to be possible anymore. -Galan The answer to empire ganking
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance	Posted - 2007.11.06 21:05:00 - [68] Originally by: PCaBoo Well then I suppose all long range ships w/o a bonus to range/falloff should be nerfed, since they were not intended to be snipers. Get a grip. I can't take this nonsense anymore. I can't wait til someone whines about something you specialize in, and you feel the nerfbat. It'll be even better when you come to cry on the forums about it, but there won't be anyone here to hear your cries, since most of the playerbase will be gone. I think it's funny how people describe this game. You never get the same answer twice, cuz every month the game is changed to suit someone else. Your stuff. Deliver it to me. ---------------- Tarminic - 29 Million SP in pink Forum Warfare
Phantom Slave Amarr Mozzaki United	Posted - 2007.11.06 21:13:00 - [69] Wow Tarminic, you didn't even ask for his stuff, you just demanded it! I think the Dev's need to give you your pink back. At least while you had Pink text, when you demanded something we couldn't stop laughing to take it seriously! ____________________ Changes on Sisi are NOT the end of the world. Wait until Rev III/Trinity is released before drawing conclusions.
PCaBoo RennTech SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.06 21:21:00 - [70] Originally by: Imperator Jora'h That you chose to ignore guns is your own lookout. The fact remains that Gallente essentially get two primary weapon systems on some of their ships. I would go with your assessment if ALL a drone ship could use for offense was drones but that is not the case. The Domi gets a bonus to guns and a DOUBLE bonus to drones! Most everyone else gets a primary weapon and a secondary in their drones. Tier 1 Gal BS (Domi) http://www.eve-online.com/itemdatabase/EN/ships/battleships/gallente/645.asp Tier 1 Amarr BS (Geddon) http://www.eve-online.com/itemdatabase/EN/ships/battleships/amarr/643.asp Let me get this straight; you get (i'm assuming you're amarr) 7 turrets, cap bonus, ROF bonus, a large enough drone bay for 5 heavies, and a large enough PG to support all of that, but it's fair that I only have 6 turret slots (with a very inadequate grid), and a 5% damage bonus? Well actually, it is fair... So why do drones need to be nerfed? You get the ability to fit an extra turret for increased dmg, a ROF bonus, less cap usage, and an 8th hi-slot for a SB or nos/neut (whatever the hell you want). Drones aren't motherships. They don't just land on you and wtfpwn everything. They have tracking and speed issues as well. They don't hit everything all the time. They're easily destroyed with a little thought and effort. They are useless at distance, they require you to have something locked to engage (unless they're out already when you fire) and in any case, if you're jammed you have no control over what they're really doing. Nothing has truly changed in a long time in regards to ships and drones and it wasn't overpowered back then, so why the hell is it overpowered now? Cuz more people use them (effectively)? Because your ship isn't as versatile as others? Because people can't use their heads to setup ships that work well? Who knows, i'm tired of defending my eve-life. I've already given up on this game. When my subs run out next month, i'll be moving on (and no you can't have my stuff, i'm selling my char's and giving the isk to a friend). I can't keep playing a game that changes so radically every month. ________________________________ I hate you, too.

Jaggeh Furious Angels CODE RED ALLIANCE	Posted - 2007.11.06 21:23:00 - [71] i love when people jump the gun on new changes straight from the devs at fanfest the only two ships that will lose the ability to field 5 large drones are.... EOS and MYRMIDON and they will be getting enhanced drone bay size so they can carry extra waves. the ishkur is dropping to 25m/bit but drone bay size with max skills will be 50 so it can carry 2 waves of light drones. plus with all the new named drones and new drone interface we droners are really on the receiving end of much love. now stop crying and adapt or die....
PCaBoo RennTech SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.06 21:24:00 - [72] Originally by: Liisa Originally by: PCaBoo People need to stop being whiny asshats about losing in fights. Instead of asking for CCP to nerf everything to try and make yourself uber, why not try adapting to the problems you face. Hell, you people are always the ones telling us to adapt to changes. Hypocritical ******s. I take exception to that. I am a diehard minmatar pilot who has rolled with a lot of punches. I have trained drones over 2.5 mil sps, missiles over 2.5 mil etc etc. I have specialized in everything minmatar, including the faction ships and, quite honestly, have enjoyed them even when they were considered rubbish. Concentrating on one thing to the degree that you have done means you are open to being hit hard by a (in this case needed) nerf, while I just shrug and continue to plod on. You see, I can* adapt because I have my skillpoints spread around enough. You, being so heavily specced on drones, cannot. I am Gallente/Caldari Specced. I didn't put all my eggs in one basket. However, I find it ridiculous how everytime I train something to use it well, that it's nerfed. ________________________________ I hate you, too.
PCaBoo RennTech SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.06 21:29:00 - [73] Originally by: Jaggeh i love when people jump the gun on new changes straight from the devs at fanfest the only two ships that will lose the ability to field 5 large drones are.... EOS and MYRMIDON and they will be getting enhanced drone bay size so they can carry extra waves. the ishkur is dropping to 25m/bit but drone bay size with max skills will be 50 so it can carry 2 waves of light drones. plus with all the new named drones and new drone interface we droners are really on the receiving end of much love. now stop crying and adapt or die.... How about you adapt or die. Stop whining for nerfs every 5 minutes when things don't go your way. You think nerfing stuff is good for the game. It's not. It negates a lot of time and money that players (such as yourself) invested in this game. It's stupid for people to agree to such nerfs. You're just shooting yourself in the foot. I can handle changes, but how many is enough? Eve's been on a constant decline towards trying to create parity between the long-time player and the noob. While i'm sure it keeps the noobs happy, I can't imagine it being very enjoyable for the old guy that takes it in the ass. ________________________________ Stop nerfing everything!
SirMollle	Posted - 2007.11.06 22:01:00 - [74] Originally by: PCaBoo Originally by: Liisa Originally by: PCaBoo People need to stop being whiny asshats about losing in fights. Instead of asking for CCP to nerf everything to try and make yourself uber, why not try adapting to the problems you face. Hell, you people are always the ones telling us to adapt to changes. Hypocritical ******s. I take exception to that. I am a diehard minmatar pilot who has rolled with a lot of punches. I have trained drones over 2.5 mil sps, missiles over 2.5 mil etc etc. I have specialized in everything minmatar, including the faction ships and, quite honestly, have enjoyed them even when they were considered rubbish. Concentrating on one thing to the degree that you have done means you are open to being hit hard by a (in this case needed) nerf, while I just shrug and continue to plod on. You see, I can* adapt because I have my skillpoints spread around enough. You, being so heavily specced on drones, cannot. I am Gallente/Caldari Specced. I didn't put all my eggs in one basket. However, I find it ridiculous how everytime I train something to use it well, that it's nerfed. It's only YOUR fault you choose to train FOTM. The myrmidon had it coming ever since release. Next should/will be the Ishtar and Vagabond.
Anytime Baby	Posted - 2007.11.06 22:02:00 - [75] Post Violence takes place in one out of every five threads on the EVE-Online Forums. If you or a friend have had your thread abused or show any signs of being violently posted against, call this number. 1-800-CAPLOCKS
Tadehiro Kudzu Collective Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.11.06 23:35:00 - [76] Originally by: Kolwrath Uhh yes it is buddy. Sorry but you're wrong. Can I fit Large guns on a BC? no? how about a LAR? ... no? ...hmmmm oh yes thats right : You don't know what you are talking about. Anyone know what the OP is complaining about anyways? I read the post but ... I dont see what got his panties all in a knot. <.< you do realize this just means that a Myrmidon and vexor have almost essentially the same firepower now?
Kolwrath Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2007.11.06 23:49:00 - [77] Originally by: Tadehiro Originally by: Kolwrath Uhh yes it is buddy. Sorry but you're wrong. Can I fit Large guns on a BC? no? how about a LAR? ... no? ...hmmmm oh yes thats right : You don't know what you are talking about. Anyone know what the OP is complaining about anyways? I read the post but ... I dont see what got his panties all in a knot. <.< you do realize this just means that a Myrmidon and vexor have almost essentially the same firepower now? Yeah no, your wrong. Had you actually ever flown a vexor or a Myrm you would not say that. Had you actually any idea about the subject, you would not say that. Case in point: Vexor: 4 turret hardpoints Myrmidon: 6 turrent hardpoints Vexor: Enough grid to fit electrons, or ions with max skills and a shoe horn. Myrmidon: Enough grid to fit Ions or Neutrons with max skills and a shoe horn. So to recap: Vexor DPS < Myrmidon DPS. Therefore your wrong. You do not know what you are talking about. You fail. Originally by: Chaos Space Marines Do you hear the voices, too?!?!
Atama Cardel GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.06 23:52:00 - [78] NERD RAGE Originally by: Odda hey im a gonnie and i like to sue CCP to gett the game to my favor
Brark	Posted - 2007.11.07 00:06:00 - [79] Originally by: "..." Gallente tears fuel my will to live. I love CCP. <3
Lothros Andastar Gallente Imperium Forces United Freemen Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.07 00:37:00 - [80] While it is a shame to nerf drones, me being an uber dronespec gallente, I was smart and Didnt train the FotM that was Myrms and Command Ships and focused on propper ships like the ishtar and domi :)

Jenea Gallente The Copernicus Institute	Posted - 2007.11.07 00:40:00 - [81] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 06/11/2007 19:39:17 Originally by: Mystic Pete From what I understand there's going to be a load of new drone content in Rev3. Named / Faction drones, a better UI, New tactical commands / options. Oh and the bandwidth thing that allows more freedom with ship design and the ability to balance bandwidth/bay. Are you saying none of this is good for drone users? It would be awesome if they kept the dronebays the same. It makes it so the new drones are a real boost to the drone players. But let's say they gave me new faction drones, ok. A faction drone does 20% more damage than a normal drone. But my Myrmidon can only carry 4 heavies. So it EVENS it out and costs ME more money. Yeah, except the new drones will fall in between T1 and T2, and thus not really any use to the dedicated drone user -- just the guy who doesn't want to train up T2 heavies and still get that extra bit of damage.
Elias Modron Lucretia Seven	Posted - 2007.11.07 00:50:00 - [82] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa The Myrmidon is NOT a medium sized ship. Size 5 text makes me cool hay look guys am i doing it rite? :downs: I really should say something to defend my point, but as the thread has progressed I feel that Siigari has already lost every shred of respect for her and anything I say will have already been stated.
Jenea Gallente The Copernicus Institute	Posted - 2007.11.07 00:51:00 - [83] Originally by: Phantom Slave Originally by: PCaBoo Well then, I suppose SB's should be removed completely from the game. They are frigates with bs sized weapons! OMG! And yet SB's were designed to use those weapons. Myrmidon's weren't designed to use BS sized weapons, just like every other BC isn't designed to use BS sized weapons. Taking an exception to the rule doesn't make every other exception true. If BC's were supposed to use BS sized weapons, we'd have a ton more powergrid, CPU, Cap, and Bonuses for them. Sorry I decided to pick you out of the pack -- nothing personal. Far too many people have this impression that heavy drones are only for a battleship, etc. Does anyone really think a heavy drone does the same damage as a 425mm railgun? Does my Ogre II do as much damage as a cruise missile? Anyone able to look up the DPS on them and get back to me with the findings? Drones operate outside the generally accepted thinking of frigate, cruiser, and battleship sized weapons. Nobody is going to tell me that my Ishtar with five hammerhead IIs and my 3 medium hybrids (if I could actually fit all 3 on the ship) is equal to the damage on a fully tricked out Thorax with faction modules and implants (which I get neither as a drone user.) That just sorta throws the theory about comparing drone sizes to turret sizes out the window and down about 35 floors. We're not really talking about drones, they are fine. We need to be talking about the number of deployable drones within the context of bandwidth compared to the overall effectiveness of a ship. Such as, does the ship get a hybrid damage bonus? How many turrets can it field? What is it's ability to tank? Taking all that into consideration, the Myrmidon needed nerfed. I think a lot of people are unhappy because of the way it was nerfed. Dedicated drone users would be much happier would the turrets been nerfed, like the Ishtar, and/or the cpu/pg toned down to prevent a full rack of 250mm similar to the Dominix and it's inability to run six 425mm, and had the drone usage remain unchanged. The argument that only battleships should run heavy drones really does ring hollow, given the unimpressive turret ability of the Ishtar -- the 50% drone damage bonus on medium drones really doesn't bring it up to the level of other HACs. That's the model the Myrmidon should have followed.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2007.11.07 01:00:00 - [84] Originally by: PCaBoo Originally by: Imperator Jora'h That you chose to ignore guns is your own lookout. The fact remains that Gallente essentially get two primary weapon systems on some of their ships. I would go with your assessment if ALL a drone ship could use for offense was drones but that is not the case. The Domi gets a bonus to guns and a DOUBLE bonus to drones! Most everyone else gets a primary weapon and a secondary in their drones. Tier 1 Gal BS (Domi) http://www.eve-online.com/itemdatabase/EN/ships/battleships/gallente/645.asp Tier 1 Amarr BS (Geddon) http://www.eve-online.com/itemdatabase/EN/ships/battleships/amarr/643.asp Let me get this straight; you get (i'm assuming you're amarr) 7 turrets, cap bonus, ROF bonus, a large enough drone bay for 5 heavies, and a large enough PG to support all of that, but it's fair that I only have 6 turret slots (with a very inadequate grid), and a 5% damage bonus? Well actually, it is fair... So why do drones need to be nerfed? You get the ability to fit an extra turret for increased dmg, a ROF bonus, less cap usage, and an 8th hi-slot for a SB or nos/neut (whatever the hell you want). Drones aren't motherships. They don't just land on you and wtfpwn everything. They have tracking and speed issues as well. They don't hit everything all the time. They're easily destroyed with a little thought and effort. They are useless at distance, they require you to have something locked to engage (unless they're out already when you fire) and in any case, if you're jammed you have no control over what they're really doing. Nothing has truly changed in a long time in regards to ships and drones and it wasn't overpowered back then, so why the hell is it overpowered now? Cuz more people use them (effectively)? Because your ship isn't as versatile as others? Because people can't use their heads to setup ships that work well? Who knows, i'm tired of defending my eve-life. I've already given up on this game. When my subs run out next month, i'll be moving on (and no you can't have my stuff, i'm selling my char's and giving the isk to a friend). I can't keep playing a game that changes so radically every month. riiiiiight... thats why the domi can out dps the geddon with electrons, fit a mwd, cap booster, web, scram, and sensor booster where the geddon has to pick 3. oh yea and the geddon is using megapulse. well i suppose the geddon has a bit more range and effective hp. and the geddon cant fit much of anything in that 8th high slot. note the set ups i used were both 1600mm plate with heatsink/magstabs and dcII + eanmII it would be a rather even fight with the geddon winning solely because it locks first and starts shooting at longer ranges. oh yes and the domi isnt even getting its drones nerfed (aside from the scoop redeploy tactic) (afaik)
Captain Thunk Omniscient Order Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.11.07 01:07:00 - [85] Myrmidon is overpowered. Why you can't accept that is beyond me. As it stands comparing a primed for tank Myrm to a primed for tank Harby the Myrm has 722 DPS and the Harbinger has 412 DPS, ontop of that the Myrm tanks better anyway (stats are based on similar league skills, it varies from pilot to pilot of course). If the Myrm is forced to use medium sized drones the DPS on it will still be in the region of 480 DPS, so it's still better than the Harbinger but it's no longer overpowered to the point it's in an entirely different league to its brethren. THUNK!
Augeas	Posted - 2007.11.07 01:14:00 - [86] The number of Gallenteasymoders who don't realise that their droneboats have turret slots never ceases to amaze me. Or that while we're trying to grind through their drones, we're not shooting their ship. Or that damp/scoop/deploy, with the correct timing, is really rather effective at keeping drones alive (smartbombs are suicide in highsec wars , gimp your DPS anyway and are really just a self-neuting module when used against high-HP drones. And FOFs are... unreliable.).
Seteshi	Posted - 2007.11.07 01:14:00 - [87] About time time I say. The Gallente need more than a striking with the nerf bat, they need their collective legs broken with it. How many things does one race need to be the best at? Besides, if anything, this change makes drone boats of all races a bit more balanced and interesting.
Braise Erighani Gallente Galaxia Entertainment	Posted - 2007.11.07 01:20:00 - [88]
PCaBoo RennTech SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.07 03:10:00 - [89] Originally by: Augeas The number of Gallenteasymoders who don't realise that their droneboats have turret slots never ceases to amaze me. Or that while we're trying to grind through their drones, we're not shooting their ship. Or that damp/scoop/deploy, with the correct timing, is really rather effective at keeping drones alive (smartbombs are suicide in highsec wars , gimp your DPS anyway and are really just a self-neuting module when used against high-HP drones. And FOFs are... unreliable.). Easymode lol A few months ago it was Caldari on Easy mode. I guess gallente are next, then who? I'm not really upset about the myrm nerf. I'm upset that every other month there's another nerf for another thing that's not really the fault of creative users. I think people are being creative in their setups and it's pitiful that people can't "adapt or die" to get around it. Some things I do believe need fixing, such as the super-nano ships that are going faster than freighters warp, as well as other things. I feel that rather than addressing the issue in a productive way, we're letting CCP take the easy way out and nerfing the hell out of everything. While doing so, they're just wasting our time and money on training. With all this nerfing going on, why aren't those that train for these things, being compensated for so-called design flaws? As for me training for a FOTM... I don't even know what that means. Since when were Gallente (With drone bonuses) a FOTM? I've been Gallente and Caldari specializing since I started playing. I don't see how it matters anyway. I play the game as I wish, not how you think I should. People on the forums whine all day about how their ships suck compared to the next guy and how their particular flavor of playing needs boosting since this other race gets this and that. It's also funny how they hate how crappy their race is versus others, yet refuse to train for anything else. How about instead of making everyone else change, why don't you figure out a way to counter it. I'm not veteran of Eve, by any means, but when I come across something I can't kill.. I don't fly to the forums screaming that the thing in question needs nerfing. I figure out a way to counter it. Stop crying to mommy that the smarter man won. "You can't fix stupid" -(Some comedian, I forget) ________________________________ Stop nerfing everything!
Duckeye	Posted - 2007.11.07 03:34:00 - [90] Just play as minmatar like me, it seems the nerf bat cannot recognize the color of brown.



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