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Dred 'Morte Winds of Dawn	Posted - 2007.11.06 22:31:00 - [1] 4million $ this 5th of november I think he has a chance! I believe his ideas and willpower can be compared to JFK, Lincoln and Jackson. "Although I've seen the mail and ouchy it is, killmails are allowed to be posted in C&P" -TheDagda
Dred 'Morte Winds of Dawn	Posted - 2007.11.06 22:31:00 - [2] 4million $ this 5th of november I think he has a chance! I believe his ideas and willpower can be compared to JFK, Lincoln and Jackson. "Although I've seen the mail and ouchy it is, killmails are allowed to be posted in C&P" -TheDagda
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.11.06 22:38:00 - [3] Who? Originally by: Liz Kali Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking I owned someone on forums!!!
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.11.06 22:38:00 - [4] Who? Originally by: Liz Kali Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking I owned someone on forums!!!
Frezik Basically Outdated Stereo Equiptment	Posted - 2007.11.06 22:42:00 - [5] Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Who? Libertarian who happens to be in the American Republican Party, whose very popular on the Internet but unknown elsewhere.
Dred 'Morte Winds of Dawn	Posted - 2007.11.06 22:42:00 - [6] http://www.ronpaul2008.com/ "Although I've seen the mail and ouchy it is, killmails are allowed to be posted in C&P" -TheDagda
Rialtor Amarr Yarrrateers	Posted - 2007.11.06 22:42:00 - [7] Edited by: Rialtor on 06/11/2007 22:44:26 lol, I'm glad you posted this. I've made a few Ron Paul posts about the 5th, and didn't want to make another would seem a tad bit tasteless. But anyway, I'm really happy it was successful, it's getting some media attention: Fox, ABC, NBC, AOL, CNN, (Although I HATE the CNN article more on this later). I've donated prior to learning about the 5th, but I decided to donate again because I thought it could work to break through normal political news. Thankfully it did, and it got the a decent response from the media. Ok now back to CNN. All the other major news media pages had like 2-4 pages on the subject and contained actual quotes from Ron and/or supporters and actual Ron Paul positions. CNN? They're article is total trash. It's like 100-200 words long. CNN had this very unflattering photo, which I barely recognized as Ron Paul, and they ended the article by saying he was anti-abortion, with no further clarification on the issue. I mean I've seen biased news articles before but that article was very unfair to Ron Paul. It's a horrible piece of journalism. ---- sig ---- Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world... Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.
Sereifex Daku Delictum 23216	Posted - 2007.11.06 23:04:00 - [8] I really want Ron Paul to win, despite the fact that I'm not American. I really do think that the American government is beginning to cross the line. A few more wars would shatter America imo. Returning to a more 'laisez fair' (sp?) approach seems like a refreshing idea to me.
Micheal Dietrich Cynical Cartel	Posted - 2007.11.06 23:07:00 - [9] Originally by: Dred 'Morte Learn 2 link ___________________________ Never Forget, Never Forgive
Dred 'Morte Winds of Dawn	Posted - 2007.11.06 23:13:00 - [10] my apologies "Although I've seen the mail and ouchy it is, killmails are allowed to be posted in C&P" -TheDagda
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.11.06 23:19:00 - [11] I'll vote for whoever runs against Hillary... she wins I put my British passport to good use Dual citizenship FTW! Originally by: Liz Kali Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking I owned someone on forums!!!
Sharupak Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.11.06 23:21:00 - [12] I think he should do another one after the publicity. I bet he could double it! _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude.
Dred 'Morte Winds of Dawn	Posted - 2007.11.06 23:22:00 - [13] Ron Paul is the total opposite of Hillary, he's honest to god, he's a man of integrity, is the closest thing there ever was of a consistent honest politician. Hillary, and her husband... oh god they disgust me. "Although I've seen the mail and ouchy it is, killmails are allowed to be posted in C&P" -TheDagda
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.11.06 23:31:00 - [14] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 06/11/2007 23:34:37 Ron Paul's promises and statements fall into two categories. The first category is those statements posted everywhere; the ones that make him popular, the ones that make sense and Americans like. The second category, less publicized, is full of everything from racism to completely insane promises such as removing the public school system. Half of what he says is really good, while half of it scares the crap out of me. The main thing that really annoys me about him is that he tried to act like a libertarian on every social issue... except abortion. For everything out there, leave it to the states... except abortion, which should be totally illegal. Which basically suggests to me that he's not actually a libertarian at all, rather more of a liar. Not that other politicians don't lie, of course, but he's certainly not the second coming of Jesus like all his supports seem to make him out to be. Having him as a president would be on the one hand interesting, but on the other hand I don't think he is sane enough to lead our country, given how ridiculous some of his statements and promises have been. Honestly though, nothing is going to change until people decide it should change. When people actually want small government and are willing to make the sacrifices for it, Congress will do that; until then, no president will ever be able to get any such budget passed. 23 Member EVE Video makers: save bandwidth! Use the H.264 AutoEncoder! (updated)
Dred 'Morte Winds of Dawn	Posted - 2007.11.06 23:35:00 - [15] Edited by: Dred ''Morte on 06/11/2007 23:37:07 Dark Shikari is so going be pwnd. Look mate, Ron Paul has stated, many times, that the abortion issue should be left to be decided at a state level. And he does not want to abolish public school, he wants to abolish the department of education, which basicly regulates what every kid learns in every school. He is against that, he wants freedom and he wants home-schooling. edit: in fact, i'm sure he did something to that end in congress (state level abortion) "Although I've seen the mail and ouchy it is, killmails are allowed to be posted in C&P" -TheDagda
me bored	Posted - 2007.11.06 23:54:00 - [16] Originally by: Frezik Libertarian lol
Rialtor Amarr Yarrrateers	Posted - 2007.11.07 00:44:00 - [17] Edited by: Rialtor on 07/11/2007 00:46:52 Edited by: Rialtor on 07/11/2007 00:46:19 Originally by: Dark Shikari full of everything from racism Racism: Comments on Blacks and Crime: I've read those comments about Paul being a racist, and if you actually look into the topic, you'll find those comments were made in a newsletter that Paul did not write. And he's apologized for that already. Comments about Israeli Lobbyist: The fact of the matter is that you're not an anti-semite if you criticize Israeli Lobbyist. You're just misinformed and took some articles at face value and didn't look up any further information on the topic. If you look into Paul's record, you know exactly how he stands on these issues. Paul's stance on Racism If this is the only dirt that people can dig up on Ron then I suggest no candidate even attempt to get into a Character debate with Ron. They'd lose badly. Originally by: Dark Shikari completely insane promises You have to separate Ron's Ideological/Philosophical idea of how America should be, from the goals he feels are achievable. Ron Paul does not think all of his ideologies are achievable, and his ideologies are not crazy as some may think. Just different than what you are accustomed to today, all you have to do is listen/read his arguments and you'll see how not crazy they are. So I really don't understand how you call him insane if he knows what he can achieve and what he cannot if he were to be elected president. Quote: removing the public school system Ron Paul and his kids attended Public schools. You are misinformed, Ron has not called for the removal of the public school system. He's called for the withdrawal of Federal Government mandated education, IE: the Department of education. Originally by: Ron Paul I have also introduced the Education Improvement Tax Cut Act (H.R. 611) that provides a tax credit of up to $3,000 for in-kind or cash donation to public, private, or home schools. The Education Improvement Tax Cut Act relies on the greatest charitable force in history to improve the education of children from low-income families: the generosity of the American people. As with parental tax credits, the Education Improvement Tax Cut Act brings true accountability to education since taxpayers will only donate to schools that provide a quality education. source Ron on Public Schools and Education Ron Paul wants competition among the schools as well as schooling systems, and the ability for Parents to make the best choice for their children. This brings up the notion of accountability, the school is accountable to the parents and the children themselves. So the school panders to whom they serve and not to the Federal Government. Making Parents more active in the educational system is definitely what any bill should promote. Parents > Federal Government in terms of deciding what is best for their children. While many of his ideas sound crazy, if you take the time to learn about the man, and the principals of America you'll find his views are not so crazy, in fact his views were reality not to long ago in American History. ---- sig ---- Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world... Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.
Rialtor Amarr Yarrrateers	Posted - 2007.11.07 00:53:00 - [18] However Paul's number 1 issue is removing all troops and abandoning all Military bases around the world is very achievable. He would be the Commander and Chief of the Armed forces, and it will be the best thing America can do in terms of funding our programs at home. There's no need to have bases all over the world, that costs money. On that issue alone the American people should vote for him. It really is time to get the military industrial complex in check. ---- sig ---- Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world... Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.
Sharupak Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.11.07 01:08:00 - [19] Ron Paul promotes policies of individual empowerment. An almost forgotten philosophy that every nation on the planet has sold for a massive nanny state. _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.11.07 01:14:00 - [20] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 07/11/2007 01:16:09 Heh, you can insult almost any candidate out there, from Obama to Hillary to Guiliani, but if you mention a single bad thing about Ron Paul, the apologists will swarm you. Not to say he wouldn't make a good president, or that any of the other candidates are better (there is no evidence that any of them are), but the primary reason Ron Paul hasn't made more of an impact is because his supporters cannot shut up about how great he is, to the point where everyone else gets phenomenally sick of the whole thing. This will probably lead to him losing the nomination to Guiliani, even though the man continues to constantly make an ass of himself everywhere he goes with his hilarious 9/11 rhetoric and similar, and most Americans, including myself would probably be more comfortable with Ron Paul as president than a borderline fascist. Speaking of Ron Paul, been to Digg lately? 23 Member EVE Video makers: save bandwidth! Use the H.264 AutoEncoder! (updated)
Mr Friendly That it Should Come to This Derek Knows Us	Posted - 2007.11.07 02:29:00 - [21] Politics has no bloody place on this board, you should all know what will happen with no mods around to keep things in check, do we want this place to end up like CAOD/4chan, or do we want to self-regulate? There are moderated boards for political discussion... use those; I'm sick of the flaming and dirt throwing all over Eve-o (and I'm guilty too) __________________________________________________ Originally by: Rells This place is sewer. Full of people that use internet anonymity to do things that would earn them two knocked out teeth in real life.
pwnedgato Ore Mongers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.11.07 02:36:00 - [22] Originally by: Mr Friendly Politics has no bloody place on this board, you should all know what will happen with no mods around to keep things in check, do we want this place to end up like CAOD/4chan, or do we want to self-regulate? There are moderated boards for political discussion... use those; I'm sick of the flaming and dirt throwing all over Eve-o (and I'm guilty too) for a guy named mr friendly you aren't very friendly... ----- signature
Mr Friendly That it Should Come to This Derek Knows Us	Posted - 2007.11.07 02:43:00 - [23] Originally by: pwnedgato Originally by: Mr Friendly Politics has no bloody place on this board, you should all know what will happen with no mods around to keep things in check, do we want this place to end up like CAOD/4chan, or do we want to self-regulate? There are moderated boards for political discussion... use those; I'm sick of the flaming and dirt throwing all over Eve-o (and I'm guilty too) for a guy named mr friendly you aren't very friendly... No, I'm growing frustrated by posters on Eve acting like it's their personal toilet. That makes me angry. __________________________________________________ Originally by: Rells This place is sewer. Full of people that use internet anonymity to do things that would earn them two knocked out teeth in real life.
pwnedgato Ore Mongers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.11.07 02:43:00 - [24] well if you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all. ----- signature
Rialtor Amarr Yarrrateers	Posted - 2007.11.07 02:57:00 - [25] Originally by: Dark Shikari Heh, you can insult almost any candidate out there, from Obama to Hillary to Guiliani, but if you mention a single bad thing about Ron Paul, the apologists will swarm you. While I'll agree some Ron Paul supporters post brash material in response to criticism. You have to take into account many people that make Ron Paul arguments don't make a rational argument based on facts. They're basically throwing down a gaunlet with how they approach the topic and bring it upon themselves -- then they play the Ron Card supporters are childish idiots card. They're basically then painting Ron Paul Supporters with the same brush even though we are all over the spectrum. And you're not being very fair about the subject. You basically called Ron Paul an Insane Racist, something like that provokes a response. Despise your negative tone, I remained civil in my response, it's a merely a retort to your points which weren't fact based. ---- sig ---- Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world... Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.
Rialtor Amarr Yarrrateers	Posted - 2007.11.07 03:00:00 - [26] Originally by: Mr Friendly Politics has no bloody place on this board, you should all know what will happen with no mods around to keep things in check, do we want this place to end up like CAOD/4chan, or do we want to self-regulate? There are moderated boards for political discussion... use those; I'm sick of the flaming and dirt throwing all over Eve-o (and I'm guilty too) Oddly the only post that would be Construed as a CAOD post has been yours. I thought we were having a perfectly civil discussion before the Neighborhood watch showed up :P. ---- sig ---- Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world... Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2007.11.07 04:57:00 - [27] Originally by: Dark Shikari P.P.S. If Ron Paul is elected, the gigantic war between the President and Congress will ensure Colbert Report material for years to come will be enough material the WGA strike wont cancel any shows! (okay maybe not) will be interesting to see what happens
Frezik Basically Outdated Stereo Equiptment	Posted - 2007.11.07 05:16:00 - [28] Originally by: Dark Shikari Not to say he wouldn't make a good president, or that any of the other candidates are better (there is no evidence that any of them are), but the primary reason Ron Paul hasn't made more of an impact is because his supporters cannot shut up about how great he is, to the point where everyone else gets phenomenally sick of the whole thing. This will probably lead to him losing the nomination to Guiliani, even though the man continues to constantly make an ass of himself everywhere he goes with his hilarious 9/11 rhetoric and similar, and most Americans, including myself, would probably be more comfortable with Ron Paul as president than a borderline fascist. Have you seen the numbers lately? Ron Paul doesn't even have a percentage high enough to be worth listing. Mind you, primaries can and do change at the last minute, and this new infusion of cash might help, but he's got a lot of work ahead of him. Objectively, he's little more than an Internet sensation on the level of an "All your base are belong to us" joke. OTOH, he does have the best shot of any libertarian so far to at least be listened to by the mass media. The trouble with an inheirently individualistic philosophy like libertarianism is that there will always be very decisive views within the group causing a lot of disorganization. Hence why the officially-named Libertarian party never seems to get anything done, and many self-described libertarians want nothing to do with that party. It's tough to make a political movement based on individualism. Even the relatively moderate Democrats have difficulty keeping their individual elements together long enough to elect somebody, and the Republicans largely gave up on individualism some time during the Cold War.
Dred 'Morte Winds of Dawn	Posted - 2007.11.07 08:32:00 - [29] The reason his doing so bad on the polls is because he doesn't even show up in most of the polls. He has done quite well in the straw polls though, usually 1st, 2nd or 3rd. "Although I've seen the mail and ouchy it is, killmails are allowed to be posted in C&P" -TheDagda
Ilvan	Posted - 2007.11.07 08:55:00 - [30] lol, libertarians.

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