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CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2007.11.11 18:31:00 - [1] This Monday at 11.00 GMT we will perform tests on Singularity to attempt to locate the root of the desync issues. We will attack a Starbase and we request your assistance in the assault. To participate you require the latest Singularity client which can be downloaded here. You will also need to have the logserver, found in your EVE directory; running and you will have to add the following line to your prefs.ini file in your cache folder for your Singularity client: hideDesyncSymptoms=0. This is a temporary setting that we are using to help us find the error. Wrangler Community Manager EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang "The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it."

Elmicker Black Sea Industries Cult of War	Posted - 2007.11.11 18:54:00 - [2] You might struggle to get the numbers required at 1100 on a weekday. Best bet is announcing a "let's kill the dev's jove mothership" event for about 1830. That'll encourage the anti supercap tactics which cause desyncs in almost every case - just shooting a starbase won't really do much unless you want to organise all the participants into 2 fleets and duke it out.
Bloody Bolt	Posted - 2007.11.11 19:43:00 - [3] Edited by: Bloody Bolt on 11/11/2007 19:43:16 Can we know where Starbase is located to move there in advance? System, constellation or at least region.
ElfeGER Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.11.11 22:49:00 - [4] what desync issue are you trying to reproduce? - the issue where the client thinks it is in the wrong position/already warped but the server thinks otherwise (aka ship blown up while I was at pos or "you need to be within 1500m of the can" while sitting right next to it) - or the issue that was "fixed" some time ago where client fails to load grid correctly (not at all, incomplete, long delays)
Devian 666 Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.11 22:52:00 - [5] Given the last time I got desynced attacking a pos we only had 12 ships there it probably won't take many to reproduce the problems. I'll do my best to turn up and help. Quote: "... I doubt they would have the skillpoints and cap fleet to take and make soverignty over a large established alliance like BoB."
Chruker	Posted - 2007.11.11 23:34:00 - [6] Originally by: Bloody Bolt Edited by: Bloody Bolt on 11/11/2007 19:43:16 Can we know where Starbase is located to move there in advance? System, constellation or at least region. Most likely in one of the neighbouring systems to FD-MLJ. That is where the previous tests have taken place. And also in the general area where most people are. ----- http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online ----- Top wishes: - No daily downtime - Faster training on sisi - Speedup IGB table rendering
Darth Sith Genbuku. Daisho Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.12 00:42:00 - [7] Just my 2 cents yet again but .. I have never experiences a major desynch attacking a pos .. the primary activity that seems to trigger it is when a large number of people jump into a system at the same time .. Simple test . have a pile of people on a gate camp .. then have a large fleet jump in to attack them .. bubbles seem to compound the issue so put up a bunch of them :) It is a simple recipie for an almost guarenteed desynch ..
Devian 666 Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.12 01:06:00 - [8] Originally by: Darth Sith Just my 2 cents yet again but .. I have never experiences a major desynch attacking a pos .. the primary activity that seems to trigger it is when a large number of people jump into a system at the same time .. Simple test . have a pile of people on a gate camp .. then have a large fleet jump in to attack them .. bubbles seem to compound the issue so put up a bunch of them :) It is a simple recipie for an almost guarenteed desynch .. There are a number of situations that will cause desyncs and different scenarios are tested for different reasons. Come along and help. Quote: "... I doubt they would have the skillpoints and cap fleet to take and make soverignty over a large established alliance like BoB."
Roemy Schneider BINFORD Solidus Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.12 03:28:00 - [9] hummm let some people run the mission 'infiltrated outpost' on lvl4 - preferrably with short-range fittings - putting the gist back into logistics
Lobster Man Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2007.11.12 06:11:00 - [10] Originally by: Elmicker Best bet is announcing a "let's kill the dev's jove mothership" event for about 1830. I agree with this
Gerardd	Posted - 2007.11.12 07:27:00 - [11] happy to join. stupid question. i know where the logserver is but whee can i find the prefs ini file for the test version? thanks
Helison Gallente Times of Ancar Pure.	Posted - 2007.11.12 09:23:00 - [12] Originally by: Gerardd happy to join. stupid question. i know where the logserver is but whee can i find the prefs ini file for the test version? thanks If you use the /end /LUA:OFF option, which I would intensly recommend, you can find the prefs.ini file in the cache-folder within your testclient homedir. Otherwise it is in the settings-folder somewhere in your system data.
Ooyama Caldari Rastana CMP	Posted - 2007.11.12 10:58:00 - [13] Sorry to sound stupid (as this has allready been asked once now) but could someone please tell me ; WHERE is the prefs.ini placed (please stop saying, "in the cache-folder"). In example, i install to C:\CCP\EvE\ ,,,, then you're saying that i should have a folder there named cache?? (i don't, fyi)! I'd love to help out on this test, but unless i get info for this,, i can't ! Ooyama. Originally by: Bimjo you sir are quite right my humble apologies I shall park my navy raven in 0.0 for you to come and destroy with your ducktaped missile launcher on your shuttle
Gerardd	Posted - 2007.11.12 11:06:00 - [14] and where are we supposed to be
Gerardd	Posted - 2007.11.12 11:15:00 - [15] It is Monday ,it is 11.00 GMT I have spent an hour trying to find the prefs ini file. Arw we going to have this test?
Jerrick Archos	Posted - 2007.11.12 11:21:00 - [16] i cant find it either, it's not where it used to be. plus i cant log in to the test server anyway. and i lost the password for my main account, and i'm not getting much help on that front.
Gerardd	Posted - 2007.11.12 11:27:00 - [17] ok i found mine it is in C:\Documents and Settings\daams\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE\settings Hope this helps you
Lapis Stone	Posted - 2007.11.12 11:41:00 - [18] Edited by: Lapis Stone on 12/11/2007 11:44:39 forget that ... just realised it was my idiocy ...
Jerrick Archos	Posted - 2007.11.12 11:57:00 - [19] anyone know when the last time characters were coppied over? cause i cant log in still.
Gerardd	Posted - 2007.11.12 12:03:00 - [20] I am logged in. the copy is quite old. my pos was not there so it seems about three months old
Tres Farmer	Posted - 2007.11.12 12:14:00 - [21] Edited by: Tres Farmer on 12/11/2007 12:14:36 Originally by: Gerardd I am logged in. the copy is quite old. my pos was not there so it seems about three months old Originally by: Hunter. Yup, you heard me :) The mirror is since third of october. Have fun testing ! ------------------ Source: Sticky at Top of Development Forums And POS/Outpost get removed on Sisi regularly, so no intel on those stuff can be gathered there for TQ use ;)
Keesd	Posted - 2007.11.12 12:14:00 - [22] anything happening here????????????
Trader Gary	Posted - 2007.11.12 12:15:00 - [23] Originally by: Gerardd I am logged in. the copy is quite old. my pos was not there so it seems about three months old Your pos is not there because none of the pos's on TQ are copied across in the mirror
Ooyama Caldari Rastana CMP	Posted - 2007.11.12 12:47:00 - [24] Sorry if i sound like a dork now,, but whould it (for future tests) be possible to get a location on the test-area?? I logged in (after having set up my sisi-client), and couldn't find anyone anywhere (as there was noone in any of the public channels to direct me to where i should go). I really think it whouldn't be THAT big a problem to make a simple link to the system, where the test is being run?? Soryy if i come out as a bit p.o'ed,, but when CCP asks for help, and i end up wasting time due to lack of information, i tend to get a bit grumpy. Ooyama. Originally by: Bimjo you sir are quite right my humble apologies I shall park my navy raven in 0.0 for you to come and destroy with your ducktaped missile launcher on your shuttle
Gerardd	Posted - 2007.11.12 12:57:00 - [25] Have to agree with that one
Samurai XII	Posted - 2007.11.12 14:10:00 - [26] The pewpew was good. To bad CCP Zulupark didn't stick around as i'm sure a lot of us (carrier pilots) wanted a quick chat with him :) No desync for me, but a lot of people were complaining with desync. Hope the test will give CCP a clear idea of WTF is wrong and what can be done to fix this big issue. ______________________ Just another cool alt.
Aleyah Dawnborn Caldari SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.12 14:49:00 - [27] Yeah, was good fun. Got a desync at around 20% shield on the POS. Didn't notice before someone said they hit structure, and I was still shooting at the shield. >.> --- My God! It's logic! Flee!
Wylker Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii The Church.	Posted - 2007.11.12 15:31:00 - [28] I love that you guys are looking into this, but please keep in mind that for some people, desyncs DON'T happen at POS fights. There seems to be some connection between session changes, loading lots of ships on grid, and believe it or not, getting bumped. I've had 4 major desyncs where I lost ships, and in 3 I had been rammed by another ship while trying to warp, and in 1 I ran into a gate. I'd run simulations on undocking into camps, bump after initiating warp, jumping into gatecamps with bubbles etc. Portsmouth Shipyards IPO Sales Portsmouth Shipyards IPO Discussion
Paddlefoot Aeon Neogen Industries Daisho Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.12 20:43:00 - [29] So... any word on what results, if any, were found? Now Recruiting. Click sig for details!
Caius LiviusCerso	Posted - 2007.11.12 21:04:00 - [30] results anyone?? Please.

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