Q: What's wrong with afk mining?

A: Orders of magnitude less than afk missioning/ratting/anoms

The same thing that's wrong with auto piloting an industrial with a valuable load. It's generally bad practice to leave a lightly tanked but expensive ship just sitting unattended in space. Plenty of people will blow you up because they can and they know you'll cry about it.

okay feel free to load up an iteron mark V full of faction/officer mods and autopilot from amarr to jita, it's perfectly safe!

if this is a complaint about suicide ganking, you're out of luck because it's legitimate gameplay. high-sec was never meant to be safe. CONCORD provides consequences for aggressors, not protection from them.

Wanting afk mining to be risk free is absurd and an afront to anyone who at least affords some attention to the process with validity.

Mining should not be risk free. Ganking perhaps should be made more consequential and brought in line with the risk/reward model everyone is talking about, but the "RISK" definatley needs to remain for this "sandbox" to have credibility.

Stop spoiling that credibility of mining operations by asking for "cotton wool" immunity mechanics. This tends to give an unfavourable view for mining roles to be improved with some validity please. Which I have to say is very much needed.

Also "if" deliberate troll thread, not funny or constructive.

Being AFK while mining doesn't bother me at all (tho it aint smart). As long as you are manually controlling your hulk when you need to shift to a different roid etc. Doing it with a 3rd party program and effectively macro mining should be relentlessly hammered down without any remorse. It's unfair to those who spend the time doing it the right way as they are intended to through the built in mechanics of the game.

If CCP meant to have it automated to that degree then they would have built in the option.

But OP surely has a point. The question is: with an activity as tedious as mining, how could you NOT be afk while doing it?
Survival tip: if you only mine in cheap t1 barges, suicide ganking becomes uneconomical and you will most likely be left alone.

Well Maxious according to your KB you lost a hulk 3 months ago, and your previous industral loss was a coveter 2 years ago. Other than that you only have a procurer and an iteron on record as soft target losses previous to that since 05.

I hardly would say thats a cause for a "realistic" concern, even though no-one likes a loss at the end of the day?

[cynical]Try a "covetor", something a genuine miner would know about after so many years.[/cynical]

How are you fitting these Hulks that keep getting blown up? Post the fit. I bet the problem is there.

I dont really think anyone has anythign against afk mining, what you are talking about is people ganking miners. Its always happened, its always going to happen. Its what some people enjoy, dont really see it as interesteing tbh, but thats their game.
I afk mine in hisec alot on an alt and I have never once been ganked, ever. Just down to luck I guess. I tend to afk mine when im home with the kids, watching movies etc. Nothing wrong with it as longas you are doing it yourself as other have said.
I am dead against bots and like to see them exploded, then watch their pods carrying on the same cycle...

EVE is a sandbox. Many different ways to play converge in blissful chaos providing fun, terror, and abject boredom.

If I see you acting brain dead on the street holding tasty lollipops and I have a bat, I'm gonna club you to death and take watcha got for my satisfaction. If you are not paying attention and playing your best defense, it's your fault. Some of the best fun in EVE can be had by running away at a crucial time and saving your bacon.

During one of the hulkageddons (i'd neglected to pay attention to the forums) my alt got ganked in her hulk by a swarm of thrashers. i was a mite annoyed, and the perpetrators thought it was terribly amusing.

Now, hulkageddon usually brings out the kinds of people who you wouldn't usually associate with suicide ganking, you know, mission runners, some bored anti pirates and whatnot. so, i waited a week or so, tracked their movements, discovered that all of them were pretty much carebears who liked to run missions in their pimped out CNR's and golems all day, every day.

So, i ganked every single one of them in their missions, got quite a bit of nice loot as well. navy launchers, gist XL shield boosters, you know the types of things you find on pimped up mission ships.

I must say, they were NOT amused, they flamed me, threatened to wardec me (they didn't) and all that, their tears were delicious, i must say.

the moral of the story: Don't get mad, get even

NO! Don't go back to an NPC corp, I beg of you sir. The packing of NPC corp warehouses with player pods is one of the main reasons that miners have such a poor voice in Eve. While in one you are incapable of creating flourishing industrial mechanisms since the corp is unable to support it. They encourage solo play and take advantage of the typical industrialists tendency to simply dual box and "play with themselves" instead of others. Take you voice and put it into a player corp or create one. NPC corps in my opinion are one of the cancers that keep HiSec from being as vital and dynamic as it could be.