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Steel Tigeress
Gallente Ravenous Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.16 17:28:00 -
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60,000,000 isk sent for 60 shares.
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Bakimi Ghevorchal
Praetoria Holdings
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Posted - 2007.11.16 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Atherin Gaius ISK sent to Bakimi Ghevorchal.
Please send the ISK to the corp, has been wired back to you, but 100 have been reserved for you. ------
CEO of Praetoria Holdings, a Public Company |
Daeva Vios
PhaseShifter Technologies
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Posted - 2007.11.17 05:37:00 -
[63]
isk sent
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spiked amarr
Finite Horizon Synchr0nicity
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Posted - 2007.11.17 08:08:00 -
[64]
10m sent for 10 shares
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Peter Armstrong
Caldari Trinity Corporate Services
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Posted - 2007.11.17 10:43:00 -
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I sent 5 mil for 5 shares! I order more but just been shopping lol ------------------------------------ It's all part of the Experiance!
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northwesten
Amarr Trinity Corporate Services
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Posted - 2007.11.17 11:08:00 -
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I have a Question and not really at your IPO but a few posts ago i asked Question about ipo and bonds.
Now i noticed you have 5% for the share payout. Is this just a way to say you get a minimum no matter what? and what ever you get over it a bounces and a safe way? I just thought the bonds have a set % on payments etc? and IPO just what ever profit you make will be paid out? I am working on my IPO plan but just checking really.
As you can tell i never worked in finance lol and RL business lol.
Corporation Website
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Bakimi Ghevorchal
Praetoria Holdings
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Posted - 2007.11.17 13:28:00 -
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OK, lets take this a piece at a time...
Originally by: northwestern Now i noticed you have 5% for the share payout. Is this just a way to say you get a minimum no matter what?
This is what I predict will be the minimum after calculating all the numbers of income / expenditure, this is a pessimistic minimum which I will probably never have to go down to.
Originally by: nothwestern and what ever you get over it a bounces and a safe way not to disapont your investors?
Not quite sure what the question is. If you are meaning any profit over 5%, then this will be paid to the investors. If a month is 5% profit, they get 5%, if it is 10%, then they get 10%. The only "safe" way to make this work is by not dissappointing investors, which I will put my everything towards not doing.
Originally by: northwestern I just thought the bonds have a set % on payments etc? and IPO just what ever profit you make will be paid out?
This is correct.
Originally by: northwestern I am working on my IPO plan but just checking really.
Good luck with that, hope it runs well and will be looking forward to seeing what you plan, however, I hope that you worked very hard on your plan, because following does not exactly fill me with huge confidence:
Originally by: northwestern As you can tell i never worked in finance lol and RL business lol.
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Xeis
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Posted - 2007.11.17 15:01:00 -
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10M sent for 10 shares. |
Kaileen Starsong
Amarr Down In Flames
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Posted - 2007.11.17 18:39:00 -
[69]
125M sent for shares.
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Alvar
Irata III Trek Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.17 19:57:00 -
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50m ISK for 50 shares sent
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Pye Loom
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.11.17 23:01:00 -
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Sent isk for 20 shares. Good Luck with this venture. Pye Loom
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Herodian
Minmatar Gladius Noctem
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Posted - 2007.11.18 08:56:00 -
[72]
isk sent for 100 shares
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northwesten
Amarr Trinity Corporate Services
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Posted - 2007.11.18 15:55:00 -
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Originally by: Bakimi Ghevorchal answers
thanks for your Answers lol well My IPO not something big project like freighter or carriers etc. Be small time business really. good luck
Corporation Website
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Bakimi Ghevorchal
Praetoria Holdings
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Posted - 2007.11.18 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: northwesten
Originally by: Bakimi Ghevorchal answers
thanks for your Answers lol well My IPO not something big project like freighter or carriers etc. Be small time business really. good luck
Thank you, if you want any help, you can always contact me in-game under the Character Feyloan ------
CEO of Praetoria Holdings, a Public Company |
Bakimi Ghevorchal
Praetoria Holdings
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Posted - 2007.11.18 16:43:00 -
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NOTICE TO ALL INVESTORS AND POTENTIAL INVESTORS:
I am away on a business Trip from tomorrow morning until Wednesday evening. Any Shares purchased before 05:00 Eve Time will be processed, otherwise you will receive the shares when I return, which will be Wednesday approx. 19:00. Any shares purchased in this time period will be processed then.
I would like to emphasize, this will not affect this venture in any way. ------
CEO of Praetoria Holdings, a Public Company |
Herodian
Minmatar Gladius Noctem
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Posted - 2007.11.18 18:59:00 -
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shares received, thanks for the quick follow-up
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Iron Guerilla
Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.11.19 01:32:00 -
[77]
ISK sent for shares. Thanks.
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Inturist
Nuclear Reactor Inc Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.11.19 07:42:00 -
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Edited by: Inturist on 19/11/2007 07:42:19 50 mil send for Praetoria Holdings for 50 shares --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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shadowofflame
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Posted - 2007.11.19 20:54:00 -
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are there any more shares? if so i would like to reserve 100 shares. I will pay when you reply to this post saying there are more shares.
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Paniq
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.11.19 20:59:00 -
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Isk and evemail sent.
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Ice D
The League of Shadows
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Posted - 2007.11.19 22:01:00 -
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90 shares purchased :) |
Charlie Drago
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Posted - 2007.11.20 01:16:00 -
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Sent money for 50 shares
Sounds like an interesting concept.
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Zolcan
Amarr Praetoria Shipyards
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Posted - 2007.11.20 03:51:00 -
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Good luck with this venture and all sending isk please make sure you send it to the right Praetoria!
Zolcan
PRAETORIA WEBPAGE
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MindDragon
Caldari The Flaming Sideburn's
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Posted - 2007.11.20 04:25:00 -
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Put me down for 10 shares.
Isk sent.
MD ------ This space for rent. |
Johnathan Roark
Caldari Quantum Industries Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.11.20 06:56:00 -
[85]
Sent isk for 25 shares, thx
Corporation Management Improvement |
Shae Laurel
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Posted - 2007.11.21 06:41:00 -
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100.000.000 isk sent for 100 shares.
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Astorothe
Aperture Science Industries
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Posted - 2007.11.21 06:47:00 -
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100 million ISK sent for 100 shares.
Eve Web Design | PerthChat | Learning to Trade
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Potsnack
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Posted - 2007.11.21 18:53:00 -
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Right then - now that everyone has had a chance to buy some shares, any chance we can tempt some of the bigger investors to take a punt on this project, to move it forward?
Or am I missing something serious that has you guys all spooked?
I'll certainly bung some more into this to help it along if we can get a couple of major players involved as well (you know who you are) :)
Cheers Pot
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Na'hkin Oaks
Pro-Trade Industries Inc
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Posted - 2007.11.21 22:26:00 -
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60 mill sent for 60 shares
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Treelox
Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2007.11.21 23:17:00 -
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Originally by: Potsnack
Right then - now that everyone has had a chance to buy some shares, any chance we can tempt some of the bigger investors to take a punt on this project, to move it forward?
Or am I missing something serious that has you guys all spooked?
Hi, I'm a big investor, I guess I could possible be someone who could "punt" this.
Firstly there is nothing wrong with the business plan, it seems well thought out. I wish the corp the best of luck.
To answer your question. I think there are a few of reasons for the lack of "bigger investors" "punting" this investment.
- There was an IPO that was put forth with almost the exact same business model, just a few days before this one. That other IPO was secured by a T2 ship BPO, making it "more secure", and thus it was bought into quickly, but the "big investors". Thus those that invested in that "first" IPO, arent likely to be intrested in also investing in this one, and doubling their exposure to loss, if the market and business model ends up failing due to demand, cost, price, or whatever the case maybe.
- There is a group of thought amongst some, that Jump Freighter Production will essential be something that only 0.0 allaince will be able to do efficently. Also the belief that the same 0.0 allainces will be most of the demand, so production and demand will be all in house.
- The belief that there will be a lot of competition in this market, more than there will be demand for, since with current numbers Roquals and some Dreads will be more fuel effiecent haulers. For 0.0 <--> Empire POS logistics, Moon minerals, and T2 Components.
- Some of the "big investors" are already planing to get into the same market on their own, either privately finaced or self funded.
Please note, that my PERSONAL OPINION, there is some creedence to some of the above ideas, and some I think are a bit faulty, but thats not the point. I listed those reasons because while I may disagree or agree with them, they are reasons that I have heard at least once or twice from other "big investors".
Myself, I am always reluctant to invest in Capital Ship IPO's just because of the time from start to finish for production, allows for a lot of chaos to enter into the "cost to profit" matrix. This is a personal choice of mine, and not something that I advocate for others, its just something that I avoid. If I did invest in Capital Ship IPO's, I would consider investing in this, since I havent done any research as of this time into the CEO's background I cant give you a definitive answer.
I hope that helps answer your questions Potsnack.
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