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Bakimi Ghevorchal Praetoria Holdings	Posted - 2007.11.29 09:23:00 - [241] Originally by: Astorothe Originally by: Daeva Vios Aside from this...has anyone stopped to think that Bakimi could have bought the GTCs in the first place, to fund the whole thing? He wouldn't have needed to come here for the isk, and the fact that he has done so means, to me, that this IPO is something else. What I mean is that the whole exercise is a practice in building reputation. I for one would truly like to encourage that. Despite taking a hit, he can now build his reputation with Ricdic's backing and his own money behind it. The market needs dedicated individuals in order to grow and become something bigger than it is. It seems to me that Bakimi's pretty dedicated. Good point raised there. He could have scammed the ISK, started a new character, and THEN bought the GTCs and gone into the scheme for himself. I think what she meant was that on Day 1 I could have bought the GTCs to fund this rather than make an IPO out of it. ------ CEO of Praetoria Holdings, a Public Company
Atherin Gaius Caldari Domini Umbrus VENOM Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.29 18:22:00 - [242] I have mixed opinions on the whole GTC thing, but I will work those out on my own and not subject all of you to my rambling on it. BUT I do want to see the actual details of what happened. It really feels like he is hiding something important, or just isn't able to come up with a plausible cover story. Along with the statment that he made regarding the person that announced the incident, "they were more than just in local", makes things sound fishy. No offense to the fish.
MasterSync	Posted - 2007.11.30 00:50:00 - [243] i have spent some good times with Fey playing Eve, i believe he will do everything he can to make this venture a successful one.
Astorothe Aperture Science Industries	Posted - 2007.11.30 04:03:00 - [244] Edited by: Astorothe on 30/11/2007 04:03:41 Time will tell - regardless of all of our collective feelings on his plan to recover from the uber-gank. Personally, I'm hoping this one works out. Eve Web Design \| PerthChat \| GD for grown-ups
VO Mathilda	Posted - 2007.12.03 21:06:00 - [245] So how is the salvaging of this Operation going? Regards
Atherin Gaius Caldari Domini Umbrus VENOM Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.03 21:30:00 - [246] I'm gone for three days and no posts from the OP? somehow I'm not surprised.
desmuction	Posted - 2007.12.04 00:59:00 - [247] this is a joke
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.12.04 15:40:00 - [248] I am holding off on buy orders pending contact with the OP. Need Empire Research Slots. Click here
Bakimi Ghevorchal Praetoria Holdings	Posted - 2007.12.04 22:18:00 - [249] Sorry, I was out of contact over weekend, had private emergency. To Update, I have an offer tabled to purchase all the GTCs at the asking price from on individual (no prizes for guessing who). If this happens to fall through, I will be posting a link to the Sales thread... ------ CEO of Praetoria Holdings, a Public Company
Treelox Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party	Posted - 2007.12.04 22:23:00 - [250] Originally by: Bakimi Ghevorchal To Update, I have an offer tabled to purchase all the GTCs at the asking price from on individual (no prizes for guessing who). Ricdic? He seems to buy everything else out before anyone else gets a taste... :P j/k I'm pretty sure I know who, but I couldnt resist the chance to poke fun at ricdic. --
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.12.05 01:13:00 - [251] Actually yes I am in the market to buy 5 * 90 day gtc's. But I thought you were doing it with 30d ones so I haven't bothered approaching you Need Empire Research Slots. Click here
Bakimi Ghevorchal Praetoria Holdings	Posted - 2007.12.06 00:06:00 - [252] Originally by: Ricdic Actually yes I am in the market to buy 5 * 90 day gtc's. But I thought you were doing it with 30d ones so I haven't bothered approaching you Yeah, I am doing it with 30 day ones, and it actually (just for once) has nothing to do with you, that was someone else who said that ------ CEO of Praetoria Holdings, a Public Company
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.12.06 02:42:00 - [253] Need Empire Research Slots. Click here
Bakimi Ghevorchal Praetoria Holdings	Posted - 2007.12.06 11:31:00 - [254] Edited by: Bakimi Ghevorchal on 06/12/2007 11:31:10 Originally by: Ricdic I like the reaction OK, here the update you've been waiting for Game Time Codes ------ CEO of Praetoria Holdings, a Public Company
Athias	Posted - 2007.12.06 23:25:00 - [255] Originally by: Bakimi Ghevorchal By the way, shattered Crystal really is damn careful, they asked me some serious questions before selling me 30 GTCs... Can only agree with you there, the fun part for me licing in Europe was seeing the phonenumber on the callerID thinking who the hell calls me at 4.30 am from some weird place , and yes the questions are weird specially when the terms they are asking for arent something that is used in ones native tongue. But good luck on the venture
dzemal	Posted - 2007.12.07 02:10:00 - [256] Glad to hear things are going according to plan
NeoTrade	Posted - 2007.12.07 02:15:00 - [257] Quote: Can only agree with you there, the fun part for me licing in Europe was seeing the phonenumber on the callerID thinking who the hell calls me at 4.30 am from some weird place , and yes the questions are weird specially when the terms they are asking for arent something that is used in ones native tongue. You know what kills me about that whole process? 1. You can buy thousands of dollars worth of items, such as TVs, Holidays etc using a Visa card - but I get more security checks buying a $15 Eve time card! 2. The "check" is someone using Google maps to ask me what the name of the closest hospital is. Any half decent scammer can then open the same Google maps and answer the question!
Bakimi Ghevorchal Praetoria Holdings	Posted - 2007.12.07 08:33:00 - [258] Originally by: NeoTrade Quote: Can only agree with you there, the fun part for me licing in Europe was seeing the phonenumber on the callerID thinking who the hell calls me at 4.30 am from some weird place , and yes the questions are weird specially when the terms they are asking for arent something that is used in ones native tongue. You know what kills me about that whole process? 1. You can buy thousands of dollars worth of items, such as TVs, Holidays etc using a Visa card - but I get more security checks buying a $15 Eve time card! 2. The "check" is someone using Google maps to ask me what the name of the closest hospital is. Any half decent scammer can then open the same Google maps and answer the question! I totally agree with you about part 1. I even got called later in the day by paypal to double chekc that I meant to send that money to the States. Luckily the calls were midday and afternoon, not middle of the night. As to the check itself. I was painfully aware that it was someone looking at google maps. Unfortunately it took a little longer as I had no clue what Hospital I live near... but as you said, it was a far clearer security check than anything I've come across for a "normal" purchase. ------ CEO of Praetoria Holdings, a Public Company
Yarden Tajj Lost Industries Capital Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.10 17:16:00 - [259] I'm disappointed that to my knowledge nothing has happened with my gesture yet. This could have been used already to start something up and get things moving.
Atherin Gaius Caldari Domini Umbrus VENOM Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.11 12:34:00 - [260] so now that you have sold some of the GTCs, can we get an update on what has been done?
Bakimi Ghevorchal Praetoria Holdings	Posted - 2007.12.11 12:52:00 - [261] Originally by: Atherin Gaius so now that you have sold some of the GTCs, can we get an update on what has been done? When there is something to report, I will report it, don't worry ------ CEO of Praetoria Holdings, a Public Company
Ishina Fel Caldari Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.12.11 22:30:00 - [262] From what I hear from my gruff friend here, the venture is being initialized step by step as the GTCs sell, but I assume he wants to hold back with confirmation of the final details until all have actually sold. Which is not the case just yet. -------------------- I'll also use this post to reiterate the offer made on the ingame mailing list: I am currently looking to obtain some additional shares, as I have cash to spare again. Ideally I would like to buy around 200 to 250, but that amount is up for negotiation (I'll also accept smaller quantities of course). Obviously, as the IPO has been sold out for a while, this means I'm offering to buy from fellow shareholders. If you are unhappy with the course of the venture, need quick liquid ISK, or want to get out for some other reason, this is your chance - I am willing to offer you an excellent price. If you are interested, please eve-mail me. We will then discuss all necessary details privately.
Atherin Gaius Caldari Domini Umbrus VENOM Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.12 23:25:00 - [263] Just because I am lazy and don't want to search this thread.... Can someone post the ingame mail channel for me? Thanks!
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.12.12 23:36:00 - [264] I just wanted to post here to say that a few days ago I recieved the funds to replace 5 of the blueprints. I have done this (so I have about 9b of the IPO fund in my possession) and am just waiting for a couple more prints and the POS modules before work starts. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=500043 Largest Empire Research Alliance in EVE!
VO Mathilda	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:58:00 - [265] Is everything working has planned? Regards.
Minerva Vulcan Caldari The Nexus Foundation Endless Horizon	Posted - 2007.12.18 17:15:00 - [266] Originally by: VO Mathilda Is everything working has planned? Regards. Sounds like it's getting there by Ricdic's post. _______________________________ I need new voices in my head, To speak my secret evils with. I need new lovers in my bed, To be my friends and special pets.
Atherin Gaius Caldari Domini Umbrus VENOM Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.21 16:34:00 - [267] Originally by: Bakimi Ghevorchal Originally by: Atherin Gaius so now that you have sold some of the GTCs, can we get an update on what has been done? When there is something to report, I will report it, don't worry Not sure about everyone else but I would like a report on what is going on the last couple weeks. Investors like communication, especially when there were some issues at start up. Even if it is just to say that some BPOs are in reasearch with end dates of X is fine. We just need to know what is going on. This might seem like a pain, but doing this little thing on a regular basis will increase the trust level people have with you.
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.12.21 16:59:00 - [268] I agree completely with the above. I know precisely what is going on and what point we are up too but don't feel it is in my place to state it. This is Feyloan's corporation and he should be making the announces. Next time I see him online I will push him to post here and give a proper update. If one hasn't been made within the next couple of days I will do so myself. Things I can say now: 1) 6 bpo's locked down within C-R-A. 2) Copying hasn't yet started 3) No infrastructure required, will use existing C-R-A tools to save on fuel costs etc (C-R-A will of course charge for usage) I have already said too much . But if I was in your position (investors) I would want to know this information asap as well. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=500043 Largest Empire Research Alliance in EVE!
Mr Horizontal Gallente KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.24 01:40:00 - [269] update? --- meh.
Roemy Schneider BINFORD Solidus Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.24 02:47:00 - [270] Originally by: Ricdic 2) Copying hasn't yet started \o/ free competitor bump - putting the gist back into logistics

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