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Ancient Pistol
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Posted - 2007.11.14 22:15:00 -
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btw, what's a "blob"?
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Ki An
Gallente Filiolus Of Bellum
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Posted - 2007.11.14 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: Ancient Pistol btw, what's a "blob"?
A blob is pretty hard to define because depending on who you ask, everything from having 10 ships together to having 2 times more ships than your opponent can be thought of as blobbing. I'd say that generally a 'blob' is a group of ships, pulled together with no real purpose but to outnumber their opponent and thus securing a won engagement. Beware: I'm a "viscous pirate"! |
Ancient Pistol
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Posted - 2007.11.15 02:02:00 -
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Originally by: Ki An A blob is pretty hard to define because depending on who you ask, everything from having 10 ships together to having 2 times more ships than your opponent can be thought of as blobbing. I'd say that generally a 'blob' is a group of ships, pulled together with no real purpose but to outnumber their opponent and thus securing a won engagement.
Ah. And is a "can-flipper" the same as an "ore thief"?
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LathanRiose Devers
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Posted - 2007.11.15 02:23:00 -
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Smack talk is for 14 yr old american kids that like to play halo.
If you want to be rude, play another game.
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VB Sarge
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Posted - 2007.11.15 03:26:00 -
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We keep a record of the best smack on our corp forums. There's some hidden gold out there. Smack away, but don't be suprised when I pull out some verbal karate of my own to counter your smack fu
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Ka Jolo
Sanguine Legion
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Posted - 2007.11.15 04:27:00 -
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Originally by: Whineroy
Originally by: Ki An (long bunch of self-righteous "pirate" elitism snipped)
Higher difficulty setting ? Lol, that made my day... It seems that some people still remain either utterly clueless or utterly hypocritical about "pirates" using Motherships and similar to gatecamp, and otherwise doing their best to make sure that their activities involve zero risk. It is perfectly understandable, piracy is about making profit and avoiding risks, yet it is completely hypocritical and moronic to whine about "risk avoiding carebears" when said "carebears" only avoid risks themselves.
Yes, it is understandable to seek to engage only when one has superior numbers, tactics, or conditions. Military strategists going back to Sun Tzu have harped on this. It's why terrorists generally attack civilians, or if they do attack a superpower they use IED's that explode when they're out of the line of fire, and why the superpowers cruise around in tanks their opponents are pretty much powerless to destroy.
However, the tactic of attacking with superior forces is generally employed in taking risks rather than avoiding them. My pirate character is constantly losing ships, whether because I misjudge the skills/fitting/experience of my intended victim, walk into a trap, am hunted down by those higher in the food chain, whatever. Sometimes my pirate will die several times a day, and often I lose a ship I've only assembled minutes before. My hauler alt, on the other hand, has only died a handful of times in his whole existence.
My pirate takes risks. He constantly cruises through lowsec space all red and flashy, open to attack by those he can't attack without taking sentry fire. He jumps through gate after gate that could be camped. He attacks superior ships all by himself, when he thinks the other pilot is inexperienced or unskilled. My carebear hauler alt avoids risks. He stays in highsec. He doesn't jump into lowsec without scouting reports. He never attacks anybody. I would generalize this and say that in EVE, pirates lose ships more often than carebears, even though pirates tend to be better-prepared and better-equipped for PvP, and if they use motherships it's putting those moms in harm's way. Search these forums for stories of how motherships were brought down by well-organized gangs.
To summarize, and I don't believe this is self-serving pirate elitism, pirates take risks all the time. Taking risks, however, does not mean we're stupid; we fight to win, and winning is easier when you're bigger and stronger.
Your Money or Your Life!
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Ripley13
Gallente Shad0w Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.15 07:13:00 -
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smack - Lolz
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Lix Titrax
Association Of United Bastards
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Posted - 2007.11.15 09:10:00 -
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Originally by: Ancient Pistol Ah. And is a "can-flipper" the same as an "ore thief"?
There is a key difference between the two. An ore thief takes the ore from a carebear's jet can to keep the ore for his or her own profit. A can-flipper takes the ore from a can and drops it into one of his or her own in order to pick a fight with the carebear.
Typically after it is clear that the action is all done, the can-flipper will shoot his own can so no one can claim the ore.
At least that is how I play.
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Val Vympel
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Posted - 2007.11.15 12:57:00 -
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Originally by: LathanRiose Devers Smack talk is for 14 yr old american kids that like to play halo.
If you want to be rude, play another game.
I am not 14 years old.(Try double that +10) I am not American.(I am Brasilian and a legal resident of the United States) I have never played "Halo" before.
I will if the circumstances provoke me,provide a witty and clever retort to any pirate that has for whatever reason and wherever in the EVE universe relieved me of my property and or my pod.
This retort will not include:Profanity,Threats or any violation of EULA.
If you would consider my stated actions "smacktalk" or rude then I am under the opinion that perhaps you need to reconsider your chosen profession.
In closing a word of advice. If you are going to be so brash as to denegrate and or stereotype an age group or nationality on this forum,I urge you to divulge the particulars of your own status as I,and more than likely many others would be more than happy to discuss the merits or lack thereof of your age and or nationality.
Cheers
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Tal Nok
DEATH'S LEGION
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Posted - 2007.11.15 13:49:00 -
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Originally by: LathanRiose Devers Smack talk is for 14 yr old american kids that like to play halo.
If you want to be rude, play another game.
You just smacked against Americans, kids, 14 year olds, and halo players, congradulations! Does that mean you fall into this category?
On the other note, as a pirate myself, I love teh smack. It's better when you give just a little back, because that really works them up. I can't tell you how many times Vent/TS has errupted with laughter because of ironic/stupid/bellowing with tears smack that we see.
The best imo we got lastnight after pretty much instapopping an Arazu. "You are pirate noobs, blah blah <instert lots of explitives here> come to 0.0 if you think your so hot blah blah blah real pvp is in 0.0"
Send a comment back like "thanks for the freebies" and BAM! KICK IT UP A NOTCH! The smack fest begins....private chats, local, eve mails. It's awesome.
For some reason, after a long hard day of work and sitting in traffic, theres nothing like popping someone who thinks they have every right to be in the same system as me, collecting thier goodies, and getting some good old fashion smack talk.
Smack > Begging (unless when they are in thier pod, then you can make them do things )
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Ren Surkova
Down In Flames
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Posted - 2007.11.15 14:13:00 -
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Originally by: LathanRiose Devers Smack talk is for 14 yr old american kids that like to play halo.
If you want to be rude, play another game.
hahaha, are you seriously suggesting that eve's playerbase is more mature and reserved than pretty much every online game there is?
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Ancient Pistol
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Posted - 2007.11.15 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: Lix Titrax
Originally by: Ancient Pistol Ah. And is a "can-flipper" the same as an "ore thief"?
There is a key difference between the two. An ore thief takes the ore from a carebear's jet can to keep the ore for his or her own profit. A can-flipper takes the ore from a can and drops it into one of his or her own in order to pick a fight with the carebear.
Typically after it is clear that the action is all done, the can-flipper will shoot his own can so no one can claim the ore.
At least that is how I play.
Ooooh, that IS evil!
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Gix Firebrand
Caldari Beets and Gravy Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.15 17:32:00 -
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Trust me, Americans don't only smack talk.
Talk about a phail assumption.
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Vrikshaka
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2007.11.15 18:37:00 -
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The funny thing is that the op as well as most of the victims who choose to smack their assailants seem to think that they are somehow winning the situation, or at least gaining something, because of it. This attitude never ceases to astound me.
Sure, you can say whatever you want. But it will only make you twice the sucker you already were.
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Orar Ironfist
Incarnation of Evil Nocturnal Legion
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Posted - 2007.11.15 19:50:00 -
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Originally by: Atreides Horza
... and to you I say, I don't care what's good for your geese or your gander - and I'm not bothered with the altitude of the moral high ground from which you look down upon me. At the end of the day, your smacktalking @ss is still nothing but a flying meal ticket to me and mine.
I see every harsh insult as a merit badge. Every hatemail is a medal. Each death threat is a decoration. After all, it tells me I'm doing my job right. :)
I 100% endorse this statement -=YYYAAAAARRRRRRR!!!!!=- Winning or Losing doesn't matter, as long as the fight itself was good.
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Ancient Pistol
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Posted - 2007.11.15 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: Vrikshaka The funny thing is that the op as well as most of the victims who choose to smack their assailants seem to think that they are somehow winning the situation, or at least gaining something, because of it. This attitude never ceases to astound me.
Sure, you can say whatever you want. But it will only make you twice the sucker you already were.
Primarily, what's "gained" is an interesting story to have a laugh over. Since both the pirate and victim can laugh about it to their friends, it's a win-win situation.
If a pirate feels embarrassed or discouraged over the smack and decides to lay off pirating for a while, then that is certainly a "win" for the victim.
While I totally agree with the sentiment that abusive language which is in violation of the EULA is poor sportsmanship and DOES ruin the fun for all involved, there is plenty that a victim can say to their aggressor that does not fit into this category.
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Leon 026
Caldari Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.11.15 23:09:00 -
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From what I've noticed, smack-talking comes more from the industrialist/anti-pirate camp than the pirate/outlaw camp.
Either way, I tend to ignore local. Most of the smack isnt even intelligent in the first place. -------
Leon 026 Once I was fallen, now I have wings |
LathanRiose Devers
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Posted - 2007.11.16 01:42:00 -
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Originally by: Gix Firebrand Trust me, Americans don't only smack talk.
Talk about a phail assumption.
I think you meant to say Americans aren't the only ones who smack talk, but we knew what you meant. This much was obvious I thought, clearly no one is stupid enough to suggest smack-talking is exclusive to one group of people living in a certain geographical location.
I simply provided an insulting stereotype of the usual smack-talker, obviously anyone of any age from any place or background can do it.
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Hypatia Iola
Caldari Central Defiance
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Posted - 2007.11.16 06:19:00 -
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Originally by: LathanRiose Devers
I simply provided an insulting stereotype of the usual smack-talker, obviously anyone of any age from any place or background can do it.
oh so now AMERICANS are an insulting stereotype- racist! i cry shenanigans! (yessir, you can probably guess my national origin) i take great personal offense at that and will now take my 14*1.5 y/o ass to my loving bottle of Jose Cuervo... Jose (dammit how do you do that ~ thingy?) can always cheer me up!
anyway i've gotten ****y about smack before, i'll get ****y about smack again. then again from time to time it makes me LOL, and once in a blue moon it makes me ROFL, and all those other l33t things people do. It really depends on the mood i'm in at the time.
and for the record, that was me LOLing
I represent only my own views, they just happen to be the right ones. |
Privious
Caldari Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.16 06:44:00 -
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I find the lack of smack in this topic disturbing. --------- When the pin is pulled Mr. M67 Fragmentation Hand Grenade is NOT your friend. |
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Kaya Divine
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Posted - 2007.11.16 06:49:00 -
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Most powerful thing to express your feelings (if you really want to) is silence.
To show someone else that you are hurt by his actions will only make you a silly.
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Gix Firebrand
Caldari Beets and Gravy Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.16 08:34:00 -
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Just makes me laugh that people always assume smacktalkers are American.
Truth be told, I've been smacktalked way more by non-Americans than by Americans.
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Arekhon
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2007.11.17 07:13:00 -
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Originally by: Ancient Pistol btw, what's a "blob"?
stephen king novel?
Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap [BEES] |
Smacktalking Alt
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Posted - 2007.11.17 07:24:00 -
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First of all, I should add my two cents towards the community attempt at doing justice to how much the OP fails. The OP fails. Horribly.
And as for the claim that the typical smacktalker is a 14 year old American, is there any demographic data beyond a hunch to support that? Not offended, just curious.
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Arcanis Neutronsmith
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Posted - 2007.11.17 17:21:00 -
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Why would anyone smack talk in a video game about internet spaceships and space rocks?
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Lithalnas
Amarr Headcrabs
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Posted - 2007.11.17 17:40:00 -
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the one that makes me fall from my chair laughing "do you really want to pick a fight with xyzcorp?"
in my mind, i never write this but it makes me chuckle "should i care?" -------------
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Kuronaga
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.17 18:50:00 -
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comn now, just because pirates want to kill you and *****your sister doesnt mean we all can't be civilized about it. . .
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Jason Travers
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Posted - 2007.11.19 23:27:00 -
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OH MY GOZZER!! Thank you Mr./MS pirate for blowing up my 200k + isk hulk. I donĘt want to hurt your feelings so I will just say thank you.
I guess this is what the pirates expect to hear. Wrong answer, If you get offended at someone being ****ed because YOU blew up their ship then donĘt blow up their ship. You want to be a pirate then act like it and take the beatings. Real pirates are actually killed in real life and they are called far worse than they are in this game. You cannot change human nature, people get ****ed when they lose something they worked for to a 14 YO with a power trip that likes to call themselves pirates but donĘt have the guts or intellect to cope with being scolded. I have no sympathy for pirates. It is their choice of game play so deal with the consequences of your actions.
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Ja'kar
MAFIA
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Posted - 2007.11.19 23:52:00 -
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Look all those that like smack say so in your bio - and the same for those that do
Sort of Smack please! or No smack here!
or whatever
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Ki An
Gallente Filiolus Of Bellum The Church.
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Posted - 2007.11.20 00:43:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Travers 14 YO with a power trip
That's right, get it all out of your system. It'll make you feel a lot better. Want a kleenex?
Beware: I'm a "viscous pirate"! |
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