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Ancient Pistol
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Posted - 2007.11.13 23:56:00 -
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I find that tough pirates aren't so "tough" when noob victims fire back with a little verbal ammunition of their own.
What's the deal? These people can tell their victims, "well it's your fault for [being in 0.0/being in lowsec/being in my target range]."
Well to them I say: a little smack talk is what you get for choosing a life of piracy. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If you're not "tough" enough to take a little smack talk, then you shouldn't have been a pirate in the first place.
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Leilani Solaris
Gallente
Wreckless Abandon
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.11.14 00:02:00 -
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So because people play a game a certain way means they should have to take abuse from people for doing it?
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Lithalnas
Amarr
Headcrabs
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Posted - 2007.11.14 00:07:00 -
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please smack more, it makes it more entertaining, even killing a frigate is a good kill if it generates a comedy gold chat log.
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Tha Pusher
III ELEMENTS
VENOM Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.14 00:09:00 -
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 Originally by: Leilani Solaris
So because people play a game a certain way means they should have to take abuse from people for doing it?
Funny, thats exactly what the victims of some of these pirates say after they get upset for having their mining barge blown up, only to be responded with the typical 'eve is hell newbie, go play wow' response.
The real answer is cuz it hurts their epeen, so go on and smack talk away and watch their blood boil, good for you.
The Anti-Pirates Pirate
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Ancient Pistol
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Posted - 2007.11.14 00:12:00 -
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Edited by: Ancient Pistol on 14/11/2007 00:13:45
I wasn't talking about abusive language, I was talking about smack talk. The EULA clearly spells out what kind of dialog is considered abusive. Outside of that, anything is fair game, and is just role-playing IMO.
The chat window is just as much a part of the game as the warp scrambler and T2 guns. Why is "using the chat window" considered any less "playing the game a certain way" than non-consensual combat?
The difference is that everyone has a chat window, so it's more of an even playing field, and besides, the aggressor can always block chat.
So what's the big deal?
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Kehmor
Caldari
PAK
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Posted - 2007.11.14 00:15:00 -
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It's the miners choice to smack. It's the pirates choice to be ****ed off at it. I see no problem?
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Ancient Pistol
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Posted - 2007.11.14 00:25:00 -
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Originally by: Kehmor
It's the miners choice to smack. It's the pirates choice to be ****ed off at it. I see no problem?
Haha, well you have a point there.
But it's the "just because a person chooses to play the game a certain way they have to take abuse for it" attitude that mystifies me. This is taking it beyond the game and making it personal.
Maybe someone with T2 zOMG planet-killing guns doesn't have enough wit to match me in a chat window. That's not my fault. I don't have the T2 zOMG planet-killing guns to match theirs. So we're even.
Talking smack in-character to someone who is aggressively engaging me in non-consensual combat seems like tit for tat, and to be honest, it makes the game more fun.
I don't ming getting gate-camped or ganked, so long as I can have a bit of witty dialog to go along with it. And if the pirate's poor little ego gets bruised in the process, well, my ship got bruised, too. Live with it.
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Darth Schweinebacke
Caldari
Born Bravos
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Posted - 2007.11.14 00:32:00 -
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Edited by: Darth Schweinebacke on 14/11/2007 00:34:52
Well, I never get upset by ppl smacking me... in fact they make me and my friends laugh a lot... It¦s just a game.. when someone smacks me for ganking him I just know he is in some way upset that he lost that ship / equipment / load. No matter what he says I win :P and laugh about him for taking it all so serious ;)
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Rudy Metallo
G.H.O.S.T
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Posted - 2007.11.14 00:37:00 -
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Originally by: Tha Pusher
Originally by: Leilani Solaris
So because people play a game a certain way means they should have to take abuse from people for doing it?
Funny, thats exactly what the victims of some of these pirates say after they get upset for having their mining barge blown up, only to be responded with the typical 'eve is hell newbie, go play wow' response.
The real answer is cuz it hurts their epeen, so go on and smack talk away and watch their blood boil, good for you.
boiling blood? That's dangerous.
I find it quite hilarious when people smack, and I DO tell them that "this is low-sec, get used to it".
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Curzon Dax
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.11.14 01:14:00 -
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Originally by: Leilani Solaris
So because people play a game a certain way means they should have to take abuse from people for doing it?
Yes.
If your chosen playstyle is to abuse other people via pirating, you should expect to get abused back.
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ponieus
the united
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Posted - 2007.11.14 01:19:00 -
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Originally by: Curzon Dax
Originally by: Leilani Solaris
So because people play a game a certain way means they should have to take abuse from people for doing it?
Yes.
If your chosen playstyle is to abuse other people via pirating, you should expect to get abused back.
as much as I hate to.. I do agree with this statment. As per my profession. If I dont get smacked at I am not doing my job.
Plus good quality smack is hard to come by..
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar
Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.11.14 01:25:00 -
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I was pirate hunting in Eifer on sunday and happened upon one of those scurvy dogs that hate smack talk
of course he might have just been sore that he had to run away from a lowly stealth bomber, but him and his 5 buddies never did manage to catch me 
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 04/11/2007 21:34:44
*EDIT* You know what, Tortun has this one under control...*
*Basks in the chaos of this thread |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2007.11.14 01:34:00 -
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Originally by: Tortun Nahme
I was pirate hunting in Eifer on sunday and happened upon one of those scurvy dogs that hate smack talk
of course he might have just been sore that he had to run away from a lowly stealth bomber, but him and his 5 buddies never did manage to catch me
Wasn't me, I don't live there 
I smack talk those that smack first or in the case of the anti pirate incident when I survive the 3v1 to deaggro after my shield tank has failed and dock up before they can pop me... then they made fun of my tank after they couldn't kill me
... then there was yesterday where our gatecamp got run into by a totally unfitted Absolution who proceeded to talk about skill after running around in an untanked and unarmed command ship in lowsec 
Only thing that would've made it better would be if he was autopiloting it 
Originally by: Liz Kali
Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar
Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.11.14 01:38:00 -
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well I got on his nerves by saying "yeah, thought so jack" after he warped off in structure, unable to catch up to me even with a mwd before I took him down that far
then he proceeded to hunt my wikkle hound with his 2 cruiser buddies, an inty and a BC...
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 04/11/2007 21:34:44
*EDIT* You know what, Tortun has this one under control...*
*Basks in the chaos of this thread |
Val Vympel
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Posted - 2007.11.14 01:52:00 -
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I tried to resist responding to this thread
Well..I give in..so here is my opinion
Any pirate that gets "hurt" by smacktalk reveals their true motivation for being a pirate.
Is their TRUE motivation....
1.ISK Answer:NO
2.PVP Answer:NO
3.FUN Answer:NO
All pirates of this sort truly care about is dominance and control. Remember,you are the victim you have been put in your place,to smacktalk is to raise a hand to your master and this kind of defiance is unsufferable.You must be a submissive "carebear" and pay deference to your digital superiors or you will be labeled a "Noob","Whiner" or potential Hello Kitty player. When you smacktalk them you are deflating their epeen,when according to them you should be stroking it.
Whaa! You carebears must be the weak little bootlickers we want you to be or I'm going to go and throw a  "tantrum" in chat or on the forums...so my like minded friends can stroke and hug me and tell me everything will be alright.
So be a good little toady now and run along...
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Niccolo Duku
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.11.14 01:57:00 -
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Don't make me open a can of pout.....
Oh, and smack away, it gives the pirate something fun to post on their corp forums. But nothing... NOTHING... will match the smack you see in .6 local when the can-flippers are about. Those miners make me smile
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Bosie
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.11.14 02:18:00 -
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Edited by: Bosie on 14/11/2007 02:18:27
So as an industrial player if another player is selling the same module cheaper than me I am allowed to insult that person on a personal level?
No, I did not think so. When you leave Empire and enter low sec you get a warning box that you either click yes or no too. This box tells you that if you click yes that other players can and will kill you.
The pirate that killed you never clicked the box for you, you did that.
Now your choice of box does not give you the right to verbally attack another player when things do not go your way. Don't like the fact that you can be attacked and loose your assets, then click no and stick to the relative safety of Empire.
Click yes and verbally abuse players then expect to be dealt with by CCP.
"There is a forgotten, nay almost forbidden word,
which means more to me than any other.
That word is ENGLAND |
Aeaus
The Black Rabbits
The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2007.11.14 02:20:00 -
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Get sensitive, surely you kid? All kinds of people get sensitive to smacktalk or do it, it doesn't matter if they're pirates of carebears, putting people into categories is silly.
Oh, full disclosure, joined the rabbits two days ago, got some nice smacktalk coming my way...
pod me that'd be smart....give me and my entire corp kill rights...
you are messing with RDEX you will be hunted and killed
ever seen this, the pussies decided me and goose were too had to kill, had to drop a bloody carrier ontop of me...
Cant wait for payback
:) time is on my side
*grin*
Well what can you do, entertainment all around, in such cases though, the best idea is to leave them to be bitter 
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Cpt Fina
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2007.11.14 02:25:00 -
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Anyone can say whatever they want as long as it's not breaking the rules.
It's fun tho when poeple that got blown up think they are justified to throw insults, use vile language and threaten pirates, notices that said pirate can petition them.
Piracy is a sanctioned way of playing the game but and some victims just doesn't get it.
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Orion Eridanus
Dark Nova Crisis
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Posted - 2007.11.14 02:27:00 -
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If its an even fight and we win and the losers smack, we usually follow it up with a war dec against the smackers. If its a gank we usually dont say anything if the person smacks because we understand their frustration at not having a chance.
Originally by: Paulo Damarr
That is a most Excellent Drake fitting, you are lucky to have survived.
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Niron Werls
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.11.14 02:38:00 -
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Well since the secret is out, I might as well confess for everyone.
The truth is, you guys are absolutely right. If I am in high-sec it is because I could not hack it in low-sec, and I don't like being reminded about that.
If I am in low-sec at the time, you are probably right that I couldnt survive in 0.0.
In fact those harsh cruel words make me ashamed that I blow you up, because deep down I want to be accepted as a miner/mission runner/carebear, but I just don't know how I would fit in with you guys.
Please keep that in mind and try your best not to hurt my feelings next time you blow up. It's not my fault, and what you say is probably 100% correct, I just wont admit it because I look up to you so much and you just wont accept me as one of your own.
And if you actually do come back in that BS/dread/Carrier/Titan like you promise, I will probably just run away, so keep up with not following through on those promises to save me from shame.
Look what you have done. Stop looking at me. Its just something in my eye. 
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Kwerkus Ilf
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2007.11.14 04:29:00 -
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Edited by: Kwerkus Ilf on 14/11/2007 04:32:53
I've seen some hardcore smackers in my time as a pirate and I have to say that most of the time it's just really amusing to see people get worked up like that. Of course it's a valid tactic if you are trying to manipulate your adversary but there is always the risk of looking like a complete nub for doing so. I try to avoid smacking but still slip up from time to time :(
-K
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Scott Ryder
Infestation.
The Cosa Nostra
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Posted - 2007.11.14 04:36:00 -
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This is the utterly most stupid op (no offense) ive seen. Most pirates love smack talk as far as i know.
And why do you feel you need to run your mouth at pirates? Because they owned you? And you figured well if i cant fight back im sure as **** gonna call him a migdet******.
Constructive smack takes practice and very few master the art of smack. And it is your fault usually if you are in low sec and unprepared/unaware of the danger. And it aint cool to smack when you're in pod. You're in a pod you lost.
If you wanna fight pirates, bring some friends and guns.
Smacking em while docked wont really hurt em and it will make you look kinda silly.
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Madrosynth
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.11.14 04:41:00 -
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Originally by: Ancient Pistol
I find that tough pirates aren't so "tough" when noob victims fire back with a little verbal ammunition of their own.
What's the deal? These people can tell their victims, "well it's your fault for [being in 0.0/being in lowsec/being in my target range]."
Well to them I say: a little smack talk is what you get for choosing a life of piracy. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If you're not "tough" enough to take a little smack talk, then you shouldn't have been a pirate in the first place.
I live for smack. Most pirates I've met and talked to live for smack.
This thread fails.
[Run dark] [Run silent]
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Praxis1452
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Posted - 2007.11.14 04:54:00 -
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Originally by: Kwerkus Ilf
Edited by: Kwerkus Ilf on 14/11/2007 04:32:53
I've seen some hardcore smackers in my time as a pirate and I have to say that most of the time it's just really amusing to see people get worked up like that. Of course it's a valid tactic if you are trying to manipulate your adversary but there is always the risk of looking like a complete nub for doing so. I try to avoid smacking but still slip up from time to time :(
-K
Heh I love someone trying to smack me. It's so hilarious. I try to goad them on. Then I post up the chatlogs for me and my friends. We all have a laugh.
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Lithalnas
Amarr
Headcrabs
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Posted - 2007.11.14 05:36:00 -
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Carebears, remember that on the internet everything is public, even the private convos you have with your local pirate. Whatever you type can and will be posted, dont type anything you will regret, but if you do we will surely have a chuckle at your expense.
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Lassie Vhemneer
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Posted - 2007.11.14 05:43:00 -
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I Agree with poster I get sooo bored with mining I talked crap in minmatar channel for fun saying off the wall crap and many ppl got anal about it. It's like if the 'game' is real to them. Their is a block feature. Use it!
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Filthy Pierre
Gallente
Laughing Fox Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.11.14 05:52:00 -
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Originally by: Lassie Vhemneer
I Agree with poster I get sooo bored with mining I talked crap in minmatar channel for fun saying off the wall crap and many ppl got anal about it. It's like if the 'game' is real to them. Their is a block feature. Use it!
....just so long as you weren't babbling on about Timmy being stuck down the old well...
FP
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Jonny Chimpo
Chimpo Holding
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Posted - 2007.11.14 06:18:00 -
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what is this local window you talk about. I don't know where it is at. All I know is target lock and fire, and have my alt hauler there to pick up the pieces. So good luck talking in that local thing
Real pirates pirate in empire space
Non-consensual is the only way for me
Taxing the merchant class, one hauler at a time |
Atreides Horza
No Fear Buccaneers
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Posted - 2007.11.14 06:24:00 -
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Originally by: Ancient Pistol
I find that tough pirates aren't so "tough" when noob victims fire back with a little verbal ammunition of their own.
What's the deal? These people can tell their victims, "well it's your fault for [being in 0.0/being in lowsec/being in my target range]."
It ****es us off because you carebears have been provided with every possible means of humping ISK wherever and whenever you choose, and still you feel the need to be smug about it when warp core stabs or logoffski saves the day rather than intended game mechanics.
The efforts of those few of you who actually choose to fight it out or accepts the loss of your ship to lack of attention or incompetence are diluted by the - and I sh*t you not - daily dozens of people who are alive and thriving in an environment where those willing to invest minimum effort are rewarded with maximum income. Order of the day for those who choose to live by the sword in losec is warp core stabs, massive blobsridiculous passive tanks and shifty game mechanics that sa***uards those with equally shifty testicular fortitude.
A lot of pirates - especially the ones who can't yet fly solo pwnmobile command ships isk- or skillwize, or don't have the quintessential blob to rely on - I think, are increasingly ****ed off by the level of difficulty in getting by, even when they put everything they have on the line, while the game gildens the @sses of people unwilling to risk anything but the odd chance of being bored wh*ring complexes and mission agents in high sec.
Originally by: Ancient Pistol
Well to them I say: a little smack talk is what you get for choosing a life of piracy. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If you're not "tough" enough to take a little smack talk, then you shouldn't have been a pirate in the first place.
... and to you I say, I don't care what's good for your geese or your gander - and I'm not bothered with the altitude of the moral high ground from which you look down upon me from that enables you to insult and detest me over a mere game. At the end of the day, your smacktalking @ss is still nothing but a flying meal ticket to me and mine.
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Arekhon
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2007.11.14 06:38:00 -
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meh in eve as in RL you deal with all kinds of people, if someone wants to smack I let him, albeit i 'll have less respect for those that do...
though there is a diffrence between banter and smack
-your neighborhood pirate
Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap
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Jonny Chimpo
Chimpo Holding
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Posted - 2007.11.14 06:44:00 -
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Originally by: Atreides Horza
... and to you I say, I don't care what's good for your geese or your gander - and I'm not bothered with the altitude of the moral high ground from which you look down upon me. At the end of the day, your smacktalking @ss is still nothing but a flying meal ticket to me and mine.
I see every harsh insult as a merit badge. Every hatemail is a medal. Each death threat is a decoration. After all, it tells me I'm doing my job right. :)
QFT
I'm so jacking that quote for my sig
Non-consensual is the only way for me
Originally by: Ancient Pistol
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At the end of the day, your smacktalking @ss is still nothing but a flying me |
techzer0
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2007.11.14 06:46:00 -
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Really is funny how much more smacktalk you'll get for doing absolutely nothing with a negative sec status. It's like a magnet... before I hit -5.0 I would be ratting belts in highsec and people would start following me through system, talking stupid in local because they were worried I would steal from their miner buddies, even after showing no intention of doing so. (Not that I wouldn't, but I wasn't looking for miners). Of course I stole from them after being goaded into it, but then couldn't get a fight out of them.
Same goes for being -10... I can be minding my own business, not hunting anyone and someone will come up with something stupid to say to me "lolz nice try, better luck next time noob pirate". Why should I need better luck, i'm flashing red and have to tank sentries if I engage at a gate (kinda like a never ending 2vs1, eh?).
I don't mind most smacktalkers, but the majority I see are from no-name corps or alliances who like to smack about how a pirate flying solo is a wuss because he won't engage 1vs5 after they'd been jumped earlier in the day. And of course the alt-scout smacktalkers... great fun that they are... Podding them out of local is almost not worth it anymore to me, or at least posting the killmail for a shuttle isn't anymore.
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Gix Firebrand
Caldari
Beets and Gravy Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.14 07:59:00 -
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Smacktalk doesn't bother me, it just puzzles me sometimes.
I share Plunder's pain. I was solo camping a gate and I managed to take out a drake while under fire from 2 ravens and sentries.
I got away with like 76% struc left and they still called me a coward. It made me laugh out loud, literally. I mean.. come on? Don't I get some credit for basically a 4vs1?
The other smack thats golden is always the carrier threat. People seem to think that it makes them look big. However, it usually fails when you call them on it.
"Not worth the fuel" etc. If you weren't willing to pull it out, don't talk about it.
And the alt smack is always worth a few laughs.
Truly, smack makes it worth being a pirate.
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RuleoftheBone
Minmatar
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.11.14 08:25:00 -
[35]
Ignoring the trash followed by squishing the pod usually works for me .
"Lead Me..Follow Me..Or get the **** out of my way"
General George Patton USA
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Orion Eridanus
Dark Nova Crisis
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Posted - 2007.11.14 08:31:00 -
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Don't forget the I know where your POS is threat as well. If more than half my corp doesnt know where my POS is and unless you randomly came across it(I highly doubt it) why even try to pull this card. It's been 5 months and I'm still waiting for the POS is under attack mail by a certain alliance that shall remain nameless.
Originally by: Paulo Damarr
That is a most Excellent Drake fitting, you are lucky to have survived.
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Arekhon
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2007.11.14 08:31:00 -
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I guess the main thing that miffs me about smackers is that they are like the "guys who yells at someone on the phone" when they know damn well they would never say something like that to them in person....
of course there will be plenty of peeps after this post to say " I would too say that in person"....yea right
Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap
[BEES] |
Krist Valentine
Amarr
Veto. Academy
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.11.14 08:39:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Tha Pusher
Originally by: Leilani Solaris
So because people play a game a certain way means they should have to take abuse from people for doing it?
Funny, thats exactly what the victims of some of these pirates say after they get upset for having their mining barge blown up, only to be responded with the typical 'eve is hell newbie, go play wow' response.
The real answer is cuz it hurts their epeen, so go on and smack talk away and watch their blood boil, good for you.
I love how you keep saying 'THEY'.
How many times have you been the smacktalker in question, I wonder.
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Galan Amarias
Amarr
Vendetta Underground
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.11.14 09:59:00 -
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I don't get all that much smack, bad piracy I guess. There was this one time when I failed to kill a stabbed indy in a belt. He let lose a string of insults that would have made Dave Chapell blush.
It was hilarious, I couldn't believe someone would get that worked up over having survived an attack.
When I get threatened I usually silently hope they carry through, it means more pew pew.
With smack talk I usually warn the smacker that profanity is a EULA violation and someone else may well petition the behavior. Then I like to offer an honest critique of their ship or some advice on how not to be so easily ganked.
-Galan
The answer to empire ganking |
Redbad
Minmatar
Mean Corp
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Posted - 2007.11.14 11:02:00 -
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If you don't understand that shooting with your Mouth isn't as effective as shooting with your autocannons, you are bound to be ganked.
I love people that smack, most of the time I reply random words and sentences back in local. Keeps them occupied reading my gibberish while we probe them down at their safespot.
Priceless.
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Grunanca
Fusion Mercenaries
The Red Skull
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Posted - 2007.11.14 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: Redbad
If you don't understand that shooting with your Mouth isn't as effective as shooting with your autocannons, you are bound to be ganked.
I love people that smack, most of the time I reply random words and sentences back in local. Keeps them occupied reading my gibberish while we probe them down at their safespot.
Priceless.
Yeah, worked great on that Ishtar sitting 300km off the belt
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William DeMeo
Gallente
the united
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Posted - 2007.11.14 11:26:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Curzon Dax
Originally by: Leilani Solaris
So because people play a game a certain way means they should have to take abuse from people for doing it?
Yes.
If your chosen playstyle is to abuse other people via pirating, you should expect to get abused back.
you fail. Why?
Yarr |
Kane Rizzel
NovaKane Incorporated
Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2007.11.14 11:35:00 -
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I don't mind smack if it's creative or even slightly humorous.
We had a n00b character flying around a system a while back in a Rifter with a WCS. He was smacking in local how none of the big bad pirates could catch a 1 month old pilot in a Rifter, got really annoying tbh. I went and grabbed a 2 point Rifter, came back and removed him from local. Haven't heard from him since.
I have been guilty recently of smacking to try and get a fight out of certain anti pies but the Blob prevails
Smacking after a kill, Hatemail and Deaththreats are par for the course, some people love there pixels too much.
Originally by: High Sierra
note to self:
dont ever say anything to anyone on the internet about anything ever again.
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William DeMeo
Gallente
the united
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Posted - 2007.11.14 11:40:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Kane Rizzel
I don't mind smack if it's creative or even slightly humorous.
We had a n00b character flying around a system a while back in a Rifter with a WCS. He was smacking in local how none of the big bad pirates could catch a 1 month old pilot in a Rifter, got really annoying tbh. I went and grabbed a 2 point Rifter, came back and removed him from local. Haven't heard from him since.
I have been guilty recently of smacking to try and get a fight out of certain anti pies but the Blob prevails
Smacking after a kill, Hatemail and Deaththreats are par for the course, some people love there pixels too much.
it feels good killing smacktalking stab*****s.
Yarr |
Stuart Price
Caldari
Havoc Inc
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Posted - 2007.11.14 16:04:00 -
[45]
Strangely the only time I've been directly smacked by a victim is when we dropped on a flashy red snipe abaddon and even then it was tame.
Even the two unescorted freighter kills didn't result in smack. Nor the missionrunning bs's. What am I doing wrong?
Having said that the funniest one was when a few corpies dropped a mission Raven and his alt account Falcon (!). He didn't smack them, he smacked the people in local he'd called for help through the anti-pie channel!
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Omarvelous
Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2007.11.14 17:04:00 -
[46]
I have a personal policy of not smacking others but I do like to post other people's smack in my bio - it makes me happy
I'm also a fan of my corpmate's 'smacking' when he told a Dominix pilot that he was lucky he didn't decide to destroy him with his Merlin.
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Sup brosef!
Destry's Lounge is looking for a few good drunks - contact me in game.
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milinkoee
Bastage Incorporated
THORN Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.14 17:21:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Ancient Pistol
I find that tough pirates aren't so "tough" when noob victims fire back with a little verbal ammunition of their own.
What's the deal? These people can tell their victims, "well it's your fault for [being in 0.0/being in lowsec/being in my target range]."
Well to them I say: a little smack talk is what you get for choosing a life of piracy. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If you're not "tough" enough to take a little smack talk, then you shouldn't have been a pirate in the first place.
Are you kidding me? I do it for the smack and hate mail. In fact I find that if you ignore any private convo's after killing them they quickly escalate in local or evemail to the real juicy and bio worthy stuff.
Bastage, Inc.
Worst Pirates Ever!!! |
Ancient Pistol
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Posted - 2007.11.14 17:33:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Atreides Horza
It ****es us off because you carebears have been provided with every possible means of humping ISK wherever and whenever you choose in perfect safety, and still you feel the need to be smug about it when warp core stabs or logoffski saves the day.
The efforts of those few of you who actually choose to fight it out or accepts the loss of your ship to lack of attention or incompetence are diluted by the - and I sh*t you not - daily dozens of people who are alive and thriving in an environment where those willing to invest minimum effort are rewarded with maximum income. Order of the day for those who choose to live by the sword in losec is warp core stabs even on combat ships, cloaks on everything with a high slot, massive blobs, disproportionate responses, ridiculous passive tanks and shifty game mechanics that favours those with equally shifty testicular fortitude.
A lot of pirates - especially the ones who can't yet fly solo pwnmobile command ships isk- or skillwize, or don't have the quintessential blob to rely on - I think, are increasingly ****ed off by the level of difficulty in getting by, even when they put everything they have on the line, while the game gildens the @sses of people unwilling to risk anything but the odd chance of being bored wh*ring complexes and mission agents in high sec.
My my, look who's bitter...
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MirrorGod
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2007.11.14 17:50:00 -
[49]
I smack and I love smack from my victims. Myself and the soldiers literally feed off of hatemail. We're putting up a division just for hatemail on our forums in fact, hall of fame kind of thing.
That said, we don't smack PvP'rs and pirates who are equal or above us. In any good fight we say good fight, we show respect where it's due, and many times where I've been ganked by other pirates I'll congratulate them. In this manner, smack from a noob who is ignorant to PvP or for that matter even fitting a ship properly, is out of order. While we laugh at it, you're moving up on our list of favorite victims. Our favorite victims stand to earn fabulous prizes such as wardecs, special griefing attention, and anything else we can think up.
Moar hatemail plox.
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Ki An
Gallente
Filiolus Of Bellum
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Posted - 2007.11.14 18:08:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Atreides Horza
Edited by: Atreides Horza on 14/11/2007 06:43:18
Originally by: Ancient Pistol
I find that tough pirates aren't so "tough" when noob victims fire back with a little verbal ammunition of their own.
What's the deal? These people can tell their victims, "well it's your fault for [being in 0.0/being in lowsec/being in my target range]."
It ****es us off because you carebears have been provided with every possible means of humping ISK wherever and whenever you choose in perfect safety, and still you feel the need to be smug about it when warp core stabs or logoffski saves the day.
The efforts of those few of you who actually choose to fight it out or accepts the loss of your ship to lack of attention or incompetence are diluted by the - and I sh*t you not - daily dozens of people who are alive and thriving in an environment where those willing to invest minimum effort are rewarded with maximum income. Order of the day for those who choose to live by the sword in losec is warp core stabs even on combat ships, cloaks on everything with a high slot, massive blobs, disproportionate responses, ridiculous passive tanks and shifty game mechanics that favours those with equally shifty testicular fortitude.
A lot of pirates - especially the ones who can't yet fly solo pwnmobile command ships isk- or skillwize, or don't have the quintessential blob to rely on - I think, are increasingly ****ed off by the level of difficulty in getting by, even when they put everything they have on the line, while the game gildens the @sses of people unwilling to risk anything but the odd chance of being bored wh*ring complexes and mission agents in high sec.
Originally by: Ancient Pistol
Well to them I say: a little smack talk is what you get for choosing a life of piracy. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If you're not "tough" enough to take a little smack talk, then you shouldn't have been a pirate in the first place.
... and to you I say, I don't care what's good for your geese or your gander - and I'm not bothered with the altitude of the moral high ground from which you look down upon me. At the end of the day, your smacktalking @ss is still nothing but a flying meal ticket to me and mine.
I see every harsh insult as a merit badge. Every hatemail is a medal. Each death threat is a decoration. After all, it tells me I'm doing my job right. :)
I was going to post in this thread and be really angry and tough with the OP, but then I read this post and it sort of defused my anger. Well written and to the point. The OP should read this as a general answer to his question.
Or he can just realize that he has no argument and call the poster 'bitter'. Either way works.
Beware: I'm a "viscous pirate"! |
Ancient Pistol
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Posted - 2007.11.14 18:41:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Ki An
I was going to post in this thread and be really angry and tough with the OP, but then I read this post and it sort of defused my anger. Well written and to the point. The OP should read this as a general answer to his question.
I get it. The pirate's life is hard. No love for the poor pirate. Right?
Originally by: Ki An
Or he can just realize that he has no argument and call the poster 'bitter'. Either way works.
Take a look at that well-written response again. Name-calling, profanity, and resentment: I would call that 'bitter.'
I was asking an honest question in the OP, and I got a wide variety of answers. Good enough for me.
I'm really only playing this game for fun, whether that's a "good fight," a "good chase," or "good dialog." Witty smack talk fits into the latter. When I'm skilled for bigger guns and better ships, maybe I can have a "good fight," but for now it's only the chase and the dialog that I have access to.
I know the difference between role-playing and abuse: it's a pity that so many players can't tell the difference -- predator and prey alike. To both pirates and victims I say, "Don't take it so personally." Of course many of you have already taken this advice, and good for you.
I couldn't care less about losing a ship or a few named mods. It's only ISK, and I'm not into trading ISK for dollars anyway, so what's a few million ISK to me?
Originally by: Ki An
Beware, I'm a "Viscous Pirate"!
'Viscous' like molasses?
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Ki An
Gallente
Filiolus Of Bellum
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Posted - 2007.11.14 19:26:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Ancient Pistol
I get it. The pirate's life is hard. No love for the poor pirate. Right?
Wouldn't call it hard. It's good fun, but it's playing the game at a higher difficulty setting than Empire carebears, that's for sure. To each his own.
Originally by: Ancient Pistol
Take a look at that well-written response again. Name-calling, profanity, and resentment: I would call that 'bitter.'
I'd say he's got every right to take the tone he does given the tone you yourself took in the OP, where you effectively put yourself on a moral piedestal and talked down to the "little pirates".
Originally by: Ancient Pistol
I was asking an honest question in the OP, and I got a wide variety of answers. Good enough for me.
Nice. Next time you want to ask an honest question, just ask the question without insulting half of Eve's community in the process.
Originally by: Ancient Pistol
I'm really only playing this game for fun, whether that's a "good fight," a "good chase," or "good dialog." Witty smack talk fits into the latter. When I'm skilled for bigger guns and better ships, maybe I can have a "good fight," but for now it's only the chase and the dialog that I have access to.
How sad that you believe that.
Originally by: Ancient Pistol
I know the difference between role-playing and abuse: it's a pity that so many players can't tell the difference -- predator and prey alike. To both pirates and victims I say, "Don't take it so personally." Of course many of you have already taken this advice, and good for you.
Yes, it is too bad. Personally I ever only heard "petition worthy" smack from carebears such as yourself, but then again I don't know every pirate in Eve.
Originally by: Ancient Pistol
I couldn't care less about losing a ship or a few named mods. It's only ISK, and I'm not into trading ISK for dollars anyway, so what's a few million ISK to me?
Good attitude to have. Then again, why smack if you don't care?
Originally by: Ancient Pistol
Originally by: Ki An
Beware, I'm a "Viscous Pirate"!
'Viscous' like molasses?
Yes, sort of like molasses.
Beware: I'm a "viscous pirate"! |
Ancient Pistol
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Posted - 2007.11.14 19:43:00 -
[53]
Edited by: Ancient Pistol on 14/11/2007 19:45:01
Originally by: Ki An
I'd say he's got every right to take the tone he does given the tone you yourself took in the OP, where you effectively put yourself on a moral piedestal and talked down to the "little pirates".
...
Nice. Next time you want to ask an honest question, just ask the question without insulting half of Eve's community in the process.
Like I've repeatedly said, I don't have a problem with most piracy. After all, it's how people choose to play the game. I just don't think it's "abusive" to talk back to someone who's trying to blow me up.
I've edited the OP to clarify my intent.
Originally by: Ancient Pistol
I'm really only playing this game for fun, whether that's a "good fight," a "good chase," or "good dialog." Witty smack talk fits into the latter. When I'm skilled for bigger guns and better ships, maybe I can have a "good fight," but for now it's only the chase and the dialog that I have access to.
Originally by: Ki An
How sad that you believe that.
I don't find anything "sad" about it at all. I'm still under a million SP's. You honestly think I can fit a ship for a "good fight"?
Originally by: Ki An
Yes, it is too bad. Personally I ever only heard "petition worthy" smack from carebears such as yourself, but then again I don't know every pirate in Eve.
What exactly do you mean by "carebears such as yourself"? Please point out to me where I've said anything "petition worthy" whatsoever.
Originally by: Ki An
Good attitude to have. Then again, why smack if you don't care?
The same reason why you've chosen a life of piracy. Because it's fun.
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Whineroy
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Posted - 2007.11.14 19:48:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Ki An
(long bunch of self-righteous "pirate" elitism snipped)
Higher difficulty setting ? Lol, that made my day... It seems that some people still remain either utterly clueless or utterly hypocritical about "pirates" using Motherships and similar to gatecamp, and otherwise doing their best to make sure that their activities involve zero risk. It is perfectly understandable, piracy is about making profit and avoiding risks, yet it is completely hypocritical and moronic to whine about "risk avoiding carebears" when said "carebears" only avoid risks themselves.
For supposedly RL-mature players, many "pirates" sure keep acting like nerds with ego issues, constantly and desperately boasting about how they are a superior form of Eve player whom everyone should fear and respect. Pitiful, plain pitiful.
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Centinel 6
Amarr
The Black Rabbits
The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2007.11.14 20:06:00 -
[55]
I personally dont mind smacktalkin its not something we do in TBR but I dont mind if I get smacked, I find some of the things said comical. But when I get tired of all the smack, I squish the POD and end it.
Squishing the POD is underated.
Quote:
Noone here gets...out alive
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Bobby Orange
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Posted - 2007.11.14 20:28:00 -
[56]
I love smacktalk.
Most of it I hear from is from people who really should not have ventured into low sec. Odds are that first jump or so and you'll be fine. Then after that Pirates become more frequent. And end up being liberated from their ship and pod. When I've been podkilled a fair bunch despite being a neutral player, and the usual only thing I say when I lose and get ganked and that is that it's my own damn fault.
Varying on the smacktalk and abuse, I either laugh and give them a rebuttal shooting down half of what they said (I love the line of "you little piece of <Insert swear words here>" mails) or go about my day because I feel that they're unworthy of a reaction. They usually go in unabashed form on my bio under 'Happy customers'
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Ki An
Gallente
Filiolus Of Bellum
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Posted - 2007.11.14 20:39:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Ancient Pistol
Like I've repeatedly said, I don't have a problem with most piracy. After all, it's how people choose to play the game. I just don't think it's "abusive" to talk back to someone who's trying to blow me up.
I've edited the OP to clarify my intent.
It is good that you understood that what you originally wrote might have been interpreted as a severe case of "sore ass" smack.
Originally by: Ancient Pistol
I don't find anything "sad" about it at all. I'm still under a million SP's. You honestly think I can fit a ship for a "good fight"?
Yes, definately. I started PvPing on my first day. That was with the old starting SP which put me on about 200k sp iirc. If you want tips on setups and tactics, feel free to message me in game.
Originally by: Ancient Pistol
What exactly do you mean by "carebears such as yourself"? Please point out to me where I've said anything "petition worthy" whatsoever.
"Such as yourself" does not equal "you". You may or may not have said anything petition worthy, but all of the smack I have heard that was clearly against the EULA came not from pirates, but... how shall I put it... non-pirates. I made the assumption you where not a pirate from your original OP.
Originally by: Ancient Pistol
The same reason why you've chosen a life of piracy. Because it's fun.
Yes, smack can be fun to a certain degree. Most people tend to cross the line every once in a while though. It has a way of being a spiralling thing where it starts out inoscent enough, but ends up with RL threats and such.
Beware: I'm a "viscous pirate"! |
Ki An
Gallente
Filiolus Of Bellum
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Posted - 2007.11.14 20:40:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Whineroy
Higher difficulty setting ? Lol, that made my day... It seems that some people still remain either utterly clueless or utterly hypocritical about "pirates" using Motherships and similar to gatecamp, and otherwise doing their best to make sure that their activities involve zero risk. It is perfectly understandable, piracy is about making profit and avoiding risks, yet it is completely hypocritical and moronic to whine about "risk avoiding carebears" when said "carebears" only avoid risks themselves.
For supposedly RL-mature players, many "pirates" sure keep acting like nerds with ego issues, constantly and desperately boasting about how they are a superior form of Eve player whom everyone should fear and respect. Pitiful, plain pitiful.
Oh, Whineroy, you are my favorite little cuddly carebear because you embody everything that I like to blow up about them.
Beware: I'm a "viscous pirate"! |
ViRUS Pottage
Caldari
byeee Corp
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.14 21:08:00 -
[59]
Edited by: ViRUS Pottage on 14/11/2007 21:08:52
I love the good 'ol 2 day old destroyer pilot after you kill him... I really, REALLY love his awesome ability to copy and paste his smacktalk and spam local, the best part is when all of a sudden he goes all quiet, after petitioning him. =]
Most 'Tough' pirates dont actually get offended by smacktalk or abuse from younger players... like a few players have already pointed out, most of us are all taking the pis* out of you in corp chat, while you are thinking of your best insults.
And like another person pointed out, when you click jump to jump into a lowsec/0.0 system, you get a warning... Dont click Yes if you dont wanna get owned on the other side.
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Neal Cassady
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2007.11.14 21:35:00 -
[60]
my buddy once popped a hauler on a gate and the pilot stayed in local for four hours spamming his russian gibberish.
that was a bit excessive.
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Ancient Pistol
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Posted - 2007.11.14 22:15:00 -
[61]
btw, what's a "blob"?
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Ki An
Gallente
Filiolus Of Bellum
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Posted - 2007.11.14 22:24:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Ancient Pistol
btw, what's a "blob"?
A blob is pretty hard to define because depending on who you ask, everything from having 10 ships together to having 2 times more ships than your opponent can be thought of as blobbing. I'd say that generally a 'blob' is a group of ships, pulled together with no real purpose but to outnumber their opponent and thus securing a won engagement.
Beware: I'm a "viscous pirate"! |
Ancient Pistol
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Posted - 2007.11.15 02:02:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Ki An
A blob is pretty hard to define because depending on who you ask, everything from having 10 ships together to having 2 times more ships than your opponent can be thought of as blobbing. I'd say that generally a 'blob' is a group of ships, pulled together with no real purpose but to outnumber their opponent and thus securing a won engagement.
Ah. And is a "can-flipper" the same as an "ore thief"?
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LathanRiose Devers
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Posted - 2007.11.15 02:23:00 -
[64]
Smack talk is for 14 yr old american kids that like to play halo.
If you want to be rude, play another game.
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VB Sarge
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Posted - 2007.11.15 03:26:00 -
[65]
We keep a record of the best smack on our corp forums. There's some hidden gold out there. Smack away, but don't be suprised when I pull out some verbal karate of my own to counter your smack fu
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Ka Jolo
Sanguine Legion
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Posted - 2007.11.15 04:27:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Whineroy
Originally by: Ki An
(long bunch of self-righteous "pirate" elitism snipped)
Higher difficulty setting ? Lol, that made my day... It seems that some people still remain either utterly clueless or utterly hypocritical about "pirates" using Motherships and similar to gatecamp, and otherwise doing their best to make sure that their activities involve zero risk. It is perfectly understandable, piracy is about making profit and avoiding risks, yet it is completely hypocritical and moronic to whine about "risk avoiding carebears" when said "carebears" only avoid risks themselves.
Yes, it is understandable to seek to engage only when one has superior numbers, tactics, or conditions. Military strategists going back to Sun Tzu have harped on this. It's why terrorists generally attack civilians, or if they do attack a superpower they use IED's that explode when they're out of the line of fire, and why the superpowers cruise around in tanks their opponents are pretty much powerless to destroy.
However, the tactic of attacking with superior forces is generally employed in taking risks rather than avoiding them. My pirate character is constantly losing ships, whether because I misjudge the skills/fitting/experience of my intended victim, walk into a trap, am hunted down by those higher in the food chain, whatever. Sometimes my pirate will die several times a day, and often I lose a ship I've only assembled minutes before. My hauler alt, on the other hand, has only died a handful of times in his whole existence.
My pirate takes risks. He constantly cruises through lowsec space all red and flashy, open to attack by those he can't attack without taking sentry fire. He jumps through gate after gate that could be camped. He attacks superior ships all by himself, when he thinks the other pilot is inexperienced or unskilled. My carebear hauler alt avoids risks. He stays in highsec. He doesn't jump into lowsec without scouting reports. He never attacks anybody. I would generalize this and say that in EVE, pirates lose ships more often than carebears, even though pirates tend to be better-prepared and better-equipped for PvP, and if they use motherships it's putting those moms in harm's way. Search these forums for stories of how motherships were brought down by well-organized gangs.
To summarize, and I don't believe this is self-serving pirate elitism, pirates take risks all the time. Taking risks, however, does not mean we're stupid; we fight to win, and winning is easier when you're bigger and stronger.
Your Money or Your Life!
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Ripley13
Gallente
Shad0w Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.15 07:13:00 -
[67]
smack - Lolz
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Lix Titrax
Association Of United Bastards
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Posted - 2007.11.15 09:10:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Ancient Pistol
Ah. And is a "can-flipper" the same as an "ore thief"?
There is a key difference between the two. An ore thief takes the ore from a carebear's jet can to keep the ore for his or her own profit. A can-flipper takes the ore from a can and drops it into one of his or her own in order to pick a fight with the carebear.
Typically after it is clear that the action is all done, the can-flipper will shoot his own can so no one can claim the ore.
At least that is how I play.
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Val Vympel
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Posted - 2007.11.15 12:57:00 -
[69]
Originally by: LathanRiose Devers
Smack talk is for 14 yr old american kids that like to play halo.
If you want to be rude, play another game.
I am not 14 years old.(Try double that +10)
I am not American.(I am Brasilian and a legal resident of the United States)
I have never played "Halo" before.
I will if the circumstances provoke me,provide a witty and clever retort to any pirate that has for whatever reason and wherever in the EVE universe relieved me of my property and or my pod.
This retort will not include:Profanity,Threats or any violation of EULA.
If you would consider my stated actions "smacktalk" or rude then I am under the opinion that perhaps you need to reconsider your chosen profession.
In closing a word of advice.
If you are going to be so brash as to denegrate and or stereotype an age group or nationality on this forum,I urge you to divulge the particulars of your own status as I,and more than likely many others would be more than happy to discuss the merits or lack thereof of your age and or nationality.
Cheers
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Tal Nok
DEATH'S LEGION
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Posted - 2007.11.15 13:49:00 -
[70]
Originally by: LathanRiose Devers
Smack talk is for 14 yr old american kids that like to play halo.
If you want to be rude, play another game.
You just smacked against Americans, kids, 14 year olds, and halo players, congradulations! Does that mean you fall into this category?
On the other note, as a pirate myself, I love teh smack. It's better when you give just a little back, because that really works them up. I can't tell you how many times Vent/TS has errupted with laughter because of ironic/stupid/bellowing with tears smack that we see.
The best imo we got lastnight after pretty much instapopping an Arazu. "You are pirate noobs, blah blah <instert lots of explitives here> come to 0.0 if you think your so hot blah blah blah real pvp is in 0.0"
Send a comment back like "thanks for the freebies" and BAM! KICK IT UP A NOTCH! The smack fest begins....private chats, local, eve mails. It's awesome.
For some reason, after a long hard day of work and sitting in traffic, theres nothing like popping someone who thinks they have every right to be in the same system as me, collecting thier goodies, and getting some good old fashion smack talk.
Smack > Begging (unless when they are in thier pod, then you can make them do things  )
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Ren Surkova
Down In Flames
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Posted - 2007.11.15 14:13:00 -
[71]
Originally by: LathanRiose Devers
Smack talk is for 14 yr old american kids that like to play halo.
If you want to be rude, play another game.
hahaha, are you seriously suggesting that eve's playerbase is more mature and reserved than pretty much every online game there is?
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Ancient Pistol
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Posted - 2007.11.15 17:29:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Lix Titrax
Originally by: Ancient Pistol
Ah. And is a "can-flipper" the same as an "ore thief"?
There is a key difference between the two. An ore thief takes the ore from a carebear's jet can to keep the ore for his or her own profit. A can-flipper takes the ore from a can and drops it into one of his or her own in order to pick a fight with the carebear.
Typically after it is clear that the action is all done, the can-flipper will shoot his own can so no one can claim the ore.
At least that is how I play.
Ooooh, that IS evil! 
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Gix Firebrand
Caldari
Beets and Gravy Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.15 17:32:00 -
[73]
Trust me, Americans don't only smack talk.
Talk about a phail assumption.
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Vrikshaka
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2007.11.15 18:37:00 -
[74]
The funny thing is that the op as well as most of the victims who choose to smack their assailants seem to think that they are somehow winning the situation, or at least gaining something, because of it. This attitude never ceases to astound me.
Sure, you can say whatever you want. But it will only make you twice the sucker you already were.
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Orar Ironfist
Incarnation of Evil
Nocturnal Legion
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Posted - 2007.11.15 19:50:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Atreides Horza
... and to you I say, I don't care what's good for your geese or your gander - and I'm not bothered with the altitude of the moral high ground from which you look down upon me. At the end of the day, your smacktalking @ss is still nothing but a flying meal ticket to me and mine.
I see every harsh insult as a merit badge. Every hatemail is a medal. Each death threat is a decoration. After all, it tells me I'm doing my job right. :)
I 100% endorse this statement
-=YYYAAAAARRRRRRR!!!!!=-
Winning or Losing doesn't matter, as long as the fight itself was good.
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Ancient Pistol
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Posted - 2007.11.15 19:52:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Vrikshaka
The funny thing is that the op as well as most of the victims who choose to smack their assailants seem to think that they are somehow winning the situation, or at least gaining something, because of it. This attitude never ceases to astound me.
Sure, you can say whatever you want. But it will only make you twice the sucker you already were.
Primarily, what's "gained" is an interesting story to have a laugh over. Since both the pirate and victim can laugh about it to their friends, it's a win-win situation.
If a pirate feels embarrassed or discouraged over the smack and decides to lay off pirating for a while, then that is certainly a "win" for the victim.
While I totally agree with the sentiment that abusive language which is in violation of the EULA is poor sportsmanship and DOES ruin the fun for all involved, there is plenty that a victim can say to their aggressor that does not fit into this category.
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Leon 026
Caldari
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.11.15 23:09:00 -
[77]
From what I've noticed, smack-talking comes more from the industrialist/anti-pirate camp than the pirate/outlaw camp.
Either way, I tend to ignore local. Most of the smack isnt even intelligent in the first place.
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Leon 026
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LathanRiose Devers
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Posted - 2007.11.16 01:42:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Gix Firebrand
Trust me, Americans don't only smack talk.
Talk about a phail assumption.
I think you meant to say Americans aren't the only ones who smack talk, but we knew what you meant. This much was obvious I thought, clearly no one is stupid enough to suggest smack-talking is exclusive to one group of people living in a certain geographical location.
I simply provided an insulting stereotype of the usual smack-talker, obviously anyone of any age from any place or background can do it.
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Hypatia Iola
Caldari
Central Defiance
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Posted - 2007.11.16 06:19:00 -
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Originally by: LathanRiose Devers
I simply provided an insulting stereotype of the usual smack-talker, obviously anyone of any age from any place or background can do it.
oh so now AMERICANS are an insulting stereotype- racist! i cry shenanigans! (yessir, you can probably guess my national origin) i take great personal offense at that and will now take my 14*1.5 y/o ass to my loving bottle of Jose Cuervo... Jose (dammit how do you do that ~ thingy?) can always cheer me up!
anyway i've gotten ****y about smack before, i'll get ****y about smack again. then again from time to time it makes me LOL, and once in a blue moon it makes me ROFL, and all those other l33t things people do. It really depends on the mood i'm in at the time.
and for the record, that was me LOLing
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Privious
Caldari
Thundercats
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.16 06:44:00 -
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I find the lack of smack in this topic disturbing.
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Kaya Divine
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Posted - 2007.11.16 06:49:00 -
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Most powerful thing to express your feelings (if you really want to) is silence.
To show someone else that you are hurt by his actions will only make you a silly.
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Gix Firebrand
Caldari
Beets and Gravy Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.16 08:34:00 -
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Just makes me laugh that people always assume smacktalkers are American.
Truth be told, I've been smacktalked way more by non-Americans than by Americans.
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Arekhon
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2007.11.17 07:13:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Ancient Pistol
btw, what's a "blob"?
stephen king novel?
Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap
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Smacktalking Alt
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Posted - 2007.11.17 07:24:00 -
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First of all, I should add my two cents towards the community attempt at doing justice to how much the OP fails. The OP fails. Horribly.
And as for the claim that the typical smacktalker is a 14 year old American, is there any demographic data beyond a hunch to support that? Not offended, just curious.
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Arcanis Neutronsmith
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Posted - 2007.11.17 17:21:00 -
[85]
Why would anyone smack talk in a video game about internet spaceships and space rocks?
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Lithalnas
Amarr
Headcrabs
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Posted - 2007.11.17 17:40:00 -
[86]
the one that makes me fall from my chair laughing
"do you really want to pick a fight with xyzcorp?"
in my mind, i never write this but it makes me chuckle
"should i care?"
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Kuronaga
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.17 18:50:00 -
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comn now, just because pirates want to kill you and *****your sister doesnt mean we all can't be civilized about it. . .
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Jason Travers
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Posted - 2007.11.19 23:27:00 -
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OH MY GOZZER!! Thank you Mr./MS pirate for blowing up my 200k + isk hulk. I donĘt want to hurt your feelings so I will just say thank you.
I guess this is what the pirates expect to hear. Wrong answer, If you get offended at someone being ****ed because YOU blew up their ship then donĘt blow up their ship. You want to be a pirate then act like it and take the beatings. Real pirates are actually killed in real life and they are called far worse than they are in this game. You cannot change human nature, people get ****ed when they lose something they worked for to a 14 YO with a power trip that likes to call themselves pirates but donĘt have the guts or intellect to cope with being scolded. I have no sympathy for pirates. It is their choice of game play so deal with the consequences of your actions.
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Ja'kar
MAFIA
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Posted - 2007.11.19 23:52:00 -
[89]
Look all those that like smack say so in your bio - and the same for those that do
Sort of Smack please! or No smack here!
or whatever
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Ki An
Gallente
Filiolus Of Bellum
The Church.
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Posted - 2007.11.20 00:43:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Jason Travers
14 YO with a power trip
That's right, get it all out of your system. It'll make you feel a lot better. Want a kleenex?
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Trask Kilraen
The Older Gamers
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.11.20 01:39:00 -
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Originally by: Leilani Solaris
So because people play a game a certain way means they should have to take abuse from people for doing it?
Err..... well..... umm.... if you are a pirate, and you can;t take a little smack, then you're in the wrong line of work.
Pirating tends to annoy the victim.... get used to it.
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Tef42
Gallente
V i r u s
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Posted - 2007.11.20 06:43:00 -
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Edited by: Tef42 on 20/11/2007 06:44:58
Edited by: Tef42 on 20/11/2007 06:43:53
Originally by: Ancient Pistol
Edited by: Ancient Pistol on 14/11/2007 00:13:45
The difference is that everyone has a chat window, so it's more of an even playing field, and besides, the aggressor can always block chat.
So what's the big deal?
I wasn't talking about abusive language, I was talking about smack talk. The EULA clearly spells out what kind of dialog is considered abusive. Outside of that, anything is fair game, and is just role-playing IMO.
The chat window is just as much a part of the game as the warp scrambler and T2 guns. Why is "using the chat window" considered any less "playing the game a certain way" than non-consensual combat?
how cute!You feel empowered by words. You're like the Ani DiFranco of eve.
TBH smack is always welcome and fun hearted in my book. I see nothing wrong with it.
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Avaricha Halo
The Cry of Mankind
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Posted - 2007.11.20 11:12:00 -
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Originally by: Tef42
how cute!You feel empowered by words. You're like the Ani DiFranco of eve.
Dunno why I find this extremly funny.. must be because I've meet quite a lot of people "empowered" by their own dirty mouth mixed in with the fact my gf loves Ani DiFranco.
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Le Jackal
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Posted - 2007.11.20 13:49:00 -
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Smack talk after the event of being popped is just lame. You got humped.. so what.... we all do at some point, but there is no need to whine about it. However, may I suggest smak talk before the fightin (ganking etc), that can add some fun to the whole experience cause then (and only then) will your verbal abilities make up for your lack of fighting skills.
Like those days in the playground where smack talk would begin and sometimes the weaker kid can out smak the bully, often resulting in the bully beating seven bells of sh** out of the smaller kid.
My point, smack at the start or during the fight, ok by me. After the fight and you look and sound like the little kid running away crying and talking crap cause he/she can't fight back.
Before->during = good
After = lame.
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Kroma BaSyl
Amarr
Snickers Inc
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Posted - 2007.11.20 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: Ancient Pistol
If a pirate feels embarrassed or discouraged over the smack and decides to lay off pirating for a while, then that is certainly a "win" for the victim.
Only problem is, THIS NEVER HAPPENS. If this thread teaches you anything, it should be that smack ONLY encourages pirates, and I have never heard of a pirate that quit the trade for longer than it took to wipe away the tears of laughter.
Thus the victim can never win by smacking, only lose the little dignity he has left.
Kroma BaSyl
CEO - Snickers Inc
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Krows
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Posted - 2007.11.20 19:45:00 -
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Smack talk makes the world go round, very rarely do I throw the first punch in the verbal engagement but I relish every moment of it.
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