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Kebabski
Minmatar Yiotul Fighters Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.11.16 14:02:00 -
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Originally by: The Mittani if you mean paxton federation they held off all of bob like forever
not like that means much anymore but u know
Actually they didn't CVA+sylph did, LFA, PAXTON just brought the support rly
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ThaDollaGenerale
R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out
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Posted - 2007.11.16 14:29:00 -
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WITHOUT LINKS TO KILLBOARDS, I DON'T TRUST THIS
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Kayna Eelai
Gallente Shadow Legion Covenant Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.16 14:36:00 -
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Originally by: Laechyd Eldgorn It's new paxtonese(?) hide in pos tactic. Don'tcha know.
and how would u know that? since onny wardecced us i am yet to see even ONE of your pilots in our space, lol.
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Dafuzz
Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.16 14:45:00 -
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Originally by: Laechyd Eldgorn It's new paxtonese(?) hide in pos tactic. Don'tcha know.
Paxton brings it. And friends.
Friendly bunch, and their bombers are simply Ebil.
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dssouleater
Underworld Protection Agency The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.16 14:46:00 -
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kayna come to high sec u will see us as others have seen that we can and do reign death upon your brave pilots. goodfight to those that dont log and i wish you luck. its all about the pvp baby !
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Hsnopi
Minmatar Paxton Industries
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Posted - 2007.11.16 15:02:00 -
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Originally by: Eldwinn
Ketchup (the tomato variety) is a thixotropic substance, which often results in difficulties of removing it from a glass bottle. Often a glass bottle will appear to be blocked. The "common" method (inverting the bottle and hitting the bottom with the heel of the hand) can often cause the ketchup to suddenly gain enough momentum to begin flowing, and due to the shear stress on a thixotropic substance, lose viscosity, and therefore flow even more, causing a significant amount of ketchup to flow out of the bottle. Some people, seeking to avoid this problem, remove the product with the aid of a butter knife thrust into the opening. But this technique is generally slow and inefficient, and can potentially contaminate the ketchup.
There is a better technique that avoids both the thixotropic effect and the need for an inefficient tool. Known widely among caterers, it involves inverting the bottle and forcefully tapping its upper neck with two fingers (index and middle finger together). Specifically, with the Heinz Ketchup product, one taps the 57 circle on the neck. This helps the ketchup flow by applying correct G-forces.[7] Another solution to this problem appeared with the introduction of plastic squeeze bottles. More recently, Heinz and others have introduced an "upside-down" bottle, which further remedies the problem by keeping the remaining ketchup at the mouth of the bottle. These bottles are also fitted with a control valve in the nozzle designed to eliminate the build-up of ketchup in the cap after use. This, however, leads to squirt control problems.
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Manic Mole
VENOM72 Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.16 15:16:00 -
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good luck paxton, and i hope both sides have fun.
also please call them crimson or something as calling them TCF gets me muddled up with the french who are much better at fighting. ---[sig starts here]--- a proud member of Venom72 & Sylph. eveything i say is my personal feeling etc, etc, etc... |

Lowanaera
Amarr Celestial Janissaries Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.16 15:23:00 -
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Originally by: Kebabski
Originally by: The Mittani if you mean paxton federation they held off all of bob like forever
not like that means much anymore but u know
Actually they didn't CVA+sylph did, LFA, PAXTON just brought the support rly
It was Paxton's POS and gunners that destroyed 62 BoB ships on its own that night, our fleet contributed far less to that fight in the end.
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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.16 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: Lowanaera
Originally by: Kebabski
Originally by: The Mittani if you mean paxton federation they held off all of bob like forever
not like that means much anymore but u know
Actually they didn't CVA+sylph did, LFA, PAXTON just brought the support rly
It was Paxton's POS and gunners that destroyed 62 BoB ships on its own that night, our fleet contributed far less to that fight in the end.
yeah paxton are pretty chill brosefs hi5 dudes
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Dafuzz
Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.16 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: The Mittani yeah paxton are pretty chill brosefs hi5 dudes
I like em too hi10
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Mistress Suffering
Einherjar Rising
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Posted - 2007.11.16 17:06:00 -
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I predict this war to be altogether unintersting.
I believe CVA contributed the gunners for Paxton's POS defense, having publically admitted that just like they recently had some folks jump alliance to Sev3rance to man their guns, they had done so for Paxton as well.
Looking at the Paxton KB itself, the most recent large fight lists 114 friendlies and 117 hostiles. Paxton contributes 2 capitals (out of 16 - 14 CVA) and 14 of the remaining 98 pilots. Mind you, this is in a system that Paxton holds sovereignty in.
Kind of a sad commentary on the nature of modern EVE warfare really.
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MiLojko
Paxton Industries Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.16 17:24:00 -
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Sorry to hide, but we are to busy carebearing in crappy Providence. As Mistress already pointed out we have absolutely zero PvP force, we overall suck and have our masters CVA to keep us alive.
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Atiro Kali
Caldari eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2007.11.16 17:56:00 -
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Ok besides all the smack talk in this thread I just wanna say that 1st off I am impartial to both sides so I see it this way.
If you wardec a 0.0 alliance dont expect to get good fights in empire. All you will find there are their haulers and marketing guys maybe a few mission runners at most. if you do wardec a 0.0 alliance/corp expect it to be boring because they are in 0.0.
No amount of smack talk or ridicule will change this and imo only serve to make the OP look like a nooblet since this is a KNOWN fact in eve.
If you want a good empire war find some pirate corp/alliance like Virus for instance, they will give you tons of fun!
If you wanna fight a 0.0 corp go to 0.0 and save urself the wardec costs lol.
Enjoy the meaningless thread. "Space is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly hugely mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to space"
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M00dy
Killed In Action The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.16 18:05:00 -
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I would like to /sign and support this thread. OP is my hero.
RATatatatata
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Niding
Polaris Project Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.16 18:39:00 -
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Edited by: Niding on 16/11/2007 18:42:34
Originally by: Mistress Suffering I predict this war to be altogether unintersting.
I believe CVA contributed the gunners for Paxton's POS defense, having publically admitted that just like they recently had some folks jump alliance to Sev3rance to man their guns, they had done so for Paxton as well.
Looking at the Paxton KB itself, the most recent large fight lists 114 friendlies and 117 hostiles. Paxton contributes 2 capitals (out of 16 - 14 CVA) and 14 of the remaining 98 pilots. Mind you, this is in a system that Paxton holds sovereignty in.
Kind of a sad commentary on the nature of modern EVE warfare really.
Well, I cant see how its supposed to be sad that true friends help eachother out?
If anything its a sign of strenght that mutual allies drop everything they have and rush to assist if the other are in trouble..or?
If you take a peek at Paxton board you will find battles that are more in Paxtons favour numberwise, but as you probarly know, the citizens of Providence doesnt concern themselves overly with K/D ratios, killboards, etc. Its about forging alliances and friendship.
If thats considered sad, id say that says more about the outsiders than it does of Holders (resident alliances of Provi).
And Paxton has assisted us (CVA and others) plenty of times, so its a two-way street in that regard. |

Losmandy
VENOM72 Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.16 19:10:00 -
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Edited by: Losmandy on 16/11/2007 19:12:43
Amazing stuff Soul
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The impossible takes a little longer |

Mistress Suffering
Einherjar Rising
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Posted - 2007.11.16 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: Niding If you take a peek at Paxton board you will find battles that are more in Paxtons favour numberwise, but as you probarly know, the citizens of Providence doesnt concern themselves overly with K/D ratios, killboards, etc. Its about forging alliances and friendship.
If thats considered sad, id say that says more about the outsiders than it does of Holders (resident alliances of Provi).
And Paxton has assisted us (CVA and others) plenty of times, so its a two-way street in that regard.
Paxton, CVA, and everyone else are perfectly welcome to fight with whatever resources they have, and bring whoever they want. That's your right and your decision.
Mostly I think it is sad that no one fights alone at all, particularly at the Alliance level. EVE fights above a certain number really aren't well supported by either mechanics or more importantly, the servers themselves.
I'd love it if fighting a 300 man alliance actually meant being able to fight that group itself. Their dozen total capitals against my dozen capitals. Instead, its their dozen caps, their neighbor's two dozen caps, maybe goon's fifteen dozen caps, and so on and so forth.
No one is going to bring less than that simply because EVE has no mechanism for limiting allied escalation. We all want to win, so we escalate as much as possible, because more numbers really does lend itself to a greater chance to win.
Unfortunately, more numbers doesn't lend itself to more fun. Instead it just leads to more lopsided fights, and mroe avoidance of anything other than the uberblob. If you get a 'good' fight, its usually because someone got caught unprepared and screwed up.
That's a shame. But not one I would ever expect to be solved at the player level.
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Mistress Suffering
Einherjar Rising
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Posted - 2007.11.16 20:10:00 -
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Originally by: Niding but as you probarly know, the citizens of Providence doesnt concern themselves overly with K/D ratios, killboards, etc. Its about forging alliances and friendship.
Oh and just so we can keep this properly flammable, that particular idea is hogwash, regardless of who is putting it forth.
Everyone cares about their kills and losses, no matter how much they shout to the contrary. Killing people is fun, getting blown up is not.
People spend an awful lot of time on these forums trying to spin and justify losses, but at the end of the day, no one likes losing. Its this underlying truth that drives so much of the behavior in EVE, including the neverending push to bigger and bigger groups.
As long as EVE fails to include mechanisms that make it fun and effective to fight with smaller groups, this will continue to be the case. There are a few naturally existing ones (speed of deployment, ease of organization, etc...) but not enough, particularly at the sovereignty level.
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Snodgey2004
Mega Modal M0nkeys Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2007.11.16 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: MiLojko Sorry to hide, but we are to busy carebearing in crappy Providence. As Mistress already pointed out we have absolutely zero PvP force, we overall suck and have our masters CVA to keep us alive.
Least you know your place 
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dssouleater
Underworld Protection Agency The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.17 00:23:00 -
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Brave paxton pilots in empire now have warp core stabs fitted as standard . They even managed their first kill , which cost them a couple of ships. They continue to bravely loggoff , run and use wcs this war is going well . They fear us and fear is good , maybe they should corner the market in guns and fighting modules as they have the warp core stab market sewn up .
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Dafuzz
Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.17 00:27:00 -
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Originally by: Mistress Suffering Everyone cares about their kills and losses, no matter how much they shout to the contrary. Killing people is fun, getting blown up is not.
I lost a ship today; it was a total riot and was completely fun.
I had been trying to lose that ship for weeks. True story.
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La'kar
Gallente Paxton Industries Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.17 00:51:00 -
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Originally by: dssouleater Brave paxton pilots in empire now have warp core stabs fitted as standard . They even managed their first kill , which cost them a couple of ships. They continue to bravely loggoff , run and use wcs this war is going well . They fear us and fear is good , maybe they should corner the market in guns and fighting modules as they have the warp core stab market sewn up .
I will admit.. I was the one who equipped some warp core stabs as I was shopping in Amarr. I feel bad but I couldn't hang around and play although I would have liked to. I just had too many things to do in 0.0
Maybe next time.
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Heavy MG
Paxton Industries Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.17 01:00:00 -
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Originally by: Mistress Suffering
Mostly I think it is sad that no one fights alone at all, particularly at the Alliance level. EVE fights above a certain number really aren't well supported by either mechanics or more importantly, the servers themselves.
I'd love it if fighting a 300 man alliance actually meant being able to fight that group itself. Their dozen total capitals against my dozen capitals. Instead, its their dozen caps, their neighbor's two dozen caps, maybe goon's fifteen dozen caps, and so on and so forth.
No one is going to bring less than that simply because EVE has no mechanism for limiting allied escalation. We all want to win, so we escalate as much as possible, because more numbers really does lend itself to a greater chance to win.
Unfortunately, more numbers doesn't lend itself to more fun. Instead it just leads to more lopsided fights, and mroe avoidance of anything other than the uberblob. If you get a 'good' fight, its usually because someone got caught unprepared and screwed up.
That's a shame. But not one I would ever expect to be solved at the player level.
This isn't a problem to be "solved", its called "social interaction", "friendship" and "cooperation". It's a part of life and a part of the game.
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dssouleater
Underworld Protection Agency The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.17 01:18:00 -
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paxton you guys need to update your killboards currently you are losing 21 to 1 . not 13 to 1 as it says on your boards . trying to hide all the loses ? is it embarrasing to lose ships to us small guys ?
see you next time before you logoffski 
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Saint Sebastian
Paxton Industries Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.17 04:21:00 -
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Originally by: dssouleater paxton you guys need to update your killboards currently you are losing 21 to 1 . not 13 to 1 as it says on your boards . trying to hide all the loses ? is it embarrasing to lose ships to us small guys ?
see you next time before you logoffski 
We dont care... go away...
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sh4rp ov3rvolt
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Posted - 2007.11.17 08:04:00 -
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Originally by: dssouleater paxton you guys need to update your killboards currently you are losing 21 to 1 . not 13 to 1 as it says on your boards . trying to hide all the loses ? is it embarrasing to lose ships to us small guys ?
ow, I forgot to post my shuttle loss killmail 
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Cdr Foxbat
The Eastern Liberation Front
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Posted - 2007.11.17 12:01:00 -
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So a "pvp" alliance killing 1 bs, 1 bc 6 cruisers and 3 frigs merits a coad chest beating thread these days?
Originally by: Marduk Felzhen
Originally by: Vorian Atraties i bid my kidney...  
i bid his other kidney
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Commander Solo
Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.11.17 13:01:00 -
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Thread needs MOAR cheese
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Revolution Rising
Coalition of Nations Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2007.11.17 13:46:00 -
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So you don't go into 0.0, you killed some cruisers and frigs and then complain because you caught some dude shopping and he logged...
Then you came on here and start smacking...
I only have one question...
Who the f*** is the crimson alliance?
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Dafuzz
Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.17 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: Cdr Foxbat So a "pvp" alliance killing 1 bs, 1 bc 6 cruisers and 3 frigs merits a coad chest beating thread these days?
I thought only BoB could get away with that, but I was mistaken.
We are obviously too carebearish!
<3
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