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dssouleater
Underworld Protection Agency
The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.16 02:57:00 -
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Edited by: dssouleater on 16/11/2007 03:05:00
Edited by: dssouleater on 16/11/2007 03:01:28
Hello ,
A few days ago the glorious crimson federation in the name of fun and freedom from cva pets and their allies declared war on this carebear heatherns , Paxton Industrial
On the first day we killed a few cruisers and frigs with pods .
Next few days we kill a few more of them even a scorp . they havent managed to kill any of our brave pilots in combat .
i'll put this into perspective , they outnumbere us at least 5 to 1 and have cva , sylph and others as allies .
So what happens when they have 12 against our small fleet of 6? they run to their cva masters in 0.0!!
One of their ravens came to tash murkon prime and we where shooting him on the other side of the gate , scrammed and webbed . he jumped into TMP and logged off using the new safe option for carebears everywhere!!!
He jumped into tmp and he immediatley used that old 'ctrl Q' so logged out and was gone from our scanners and our warp scrasm couldnt hold him on the gate 2 mins and he was gone !! can anyone say they are yellow?
As the old aggro timer has been reset when u jump into a new system he got away with his ship and his pod .
Maybe paxton cant stand up to a small allaince but if this is the tactics they use its very sad .
*edit* thx i have put my corp and alliance name here .
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EquitaS
Gallente
Spartan Industries
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.11.16 02:59:00 -
[2]
Awesome thread, CAOD needs more threads like this one.
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Dafuzz
Gallente
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.16 03:02:00 -
[3]
I thought this was a necro tbqh
@ the OP: Friendly advice, you may wanna enable your corp ticker in your forums settings.
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jhvmc
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Posted - 2007.11.16 03:03:00 -
[4]
Edited by: jhvmc on 16/11/2007 03:03:52
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Kirex
Vale Heavy Industries
Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.11.16 03:06:00 -
[5]
Try wardecing us instead. We're based around Hek/Rens area ATM.
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The Mittani
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.16 03:08:00 -
[6]
if you mean paxton federation they held off all of bob like forever
not like that means much anymore but u know
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Schigolch
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.16 03:21:00 -
[7]
 Originally by: The Mittani
if you mean paxton federation they held off all of bob like forever
not like that means much anymore but u know
Blammo
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TJ17
Gallente
Species 5618
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.11.16 04:01:00 -
[8]
so basicly u post because a few of there pilots loggoffski omg take it to the forums
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Stoffer Ninjapirate
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.16 04:16:00 -
[9]
This is now a Captain Gordon memorial thread.
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Dafuzz
Gallente
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.16 04:22:00 -
[10]
Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate
This is now a Captain Gordon memorial thread.
How is your drinking goin tonight Stoff?
Originally by: The Mittani
if you mean paxton federation they held off all of bob like forever
Looks like Mittens joined ya hittin the sauce?
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Nlewis
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.16 04:45:00 -
[11]
logoffski
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Eldwinn
The Tierijev Compact
Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2007.11.16 04:55:00 -
[12]
Ketchup (the tomato variety) is a thixotropic substance, which often results in difficulties of removing it from a glass bottle. Often a glass bottle will appear to be blocked. The "common" method (inverting the bottle and hitting the bottom with the heel of the hand) can often cause the ketchup to suddenly gain enough momentum to begin flowing, and due to the shear stress on a thixotropic substance, lose viscosity, and therefore flow even more, causing a significant amount of ketchup to flow out of the bottle. Some people, seeking to avoid this problem, remove the product with the aid of a butter knife thrust into the opening. But this technique is generally slow and inefficient, and can potentially contaminate the ketchup.
There is a better technique that avoids both the thixotropic effect and the need for an inefficient tool. Known widely among caterers, it involves inverting the bottle and forcefully tapping its upper neck with two fingers (index and middle finger together). Specifically, with the Heinz Ketchup product, one taps the 57 circle on the neck. This helps the ketchup flow by applying correct G-forces.[7] Another solution to this problem appeared with the introduction of plastic squeeze bottles. More recently, Heinz and others have introduced an "upside-down" bottle, which further remedies the problem by keeping the remaining ketchup at the mouth of the bottle. These bottles are also fitted with a control valve in the nozzle designed to eliminate the build-up of ketchup in the cap after use. This, however, leads to squirt control problems.
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Dafuzz
Gallente
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.16 04:59:00 -
[13]
Originally by: Eldwinn
This, however, leads to squirt control problems.
See a doctor dude
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Eldwinn
The Tierijev Compact
Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2007.11.16 05:01:00 -
[14]
I was thinkin the same thing
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WarGod
The Illuminati.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.11.16 05:02:00 -
[15]
This thread needs my sig!
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Eldwinn
The Tierijev Compact
Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2007.11.16 05:03:00 -
[16]
welcome to the thread, WarGod
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Draygo Korvan
Merch Industrial
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Posted - 2007.11.16 05:41:00 -
[17]
I find this thread is not for me.
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Mr Rive
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.11.16 05:42:00 -
[18]
Edited by: Mr Rive on 16/11/2007 05:42:01
Originally by: WarGod
This thread needs my sig!
This thread needs more warp scramblers
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Dafuzz
Gallente
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.16 05:54:00 -
[19]
Originally by: Mr Rive
Edited by: Mr Rive on 16/11/2007 05:42:01
Originally by: WarGod
This thread needs my sig!
This thread needs more warp scramblers
No, this thread needs more Owls.
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Gneeznow
Minmatar
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.11.16 06:39:00 -
[20]
Originally by: Dafuzz
Originally by: Mr Rive
Edited by: Mr Rive on 16/11/2007 05:42:01
Originally by: WarGod
This thread needs my sig!
This thread needs more warp scramblers
No, this thread needs more Owls.
hah! Rive keeps rickrolling me good to see he got counter-rickrolled, good work dafuzz
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xBlood
Exanimo Inc
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.11.16 07:45:00 -
[21]
So they survived an assault by BOB, but are failing to a corp of 6. Right? 
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Kayna Eelai
Gallente
Shadow Legion Covenant
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.16 07:50:00 -
[22]
Edited by: Kayna Eelai on 16/11/2007 07:52:28
a few days ago i logged into the game and saw this mail announcing that this noob alliance has wardecced us. a little bit of intel shows me that they are full of 1 or 2man corps and only one corp with a decent amount of members.
5 minutes later i was back in my favoutite system ratting stuff.
that is how much i care about your wardec. you complain about a few of our guys running away, when the fact probably is that you catched em in highsec doing PVE or hauling, absolutely not fitted or prepaired for a fight. you are also so proud about the fact that we outnumber you 5 to 1... then why do you stay in empire where you can pick targets and outnumber them 5 to 1?
you wardecced a 0.0 alliance... what are you waiting to come to 0.0?
disclaimer: i am kinda new in this alliance, all i say is my own personal opinion and might completely differ from the rest of the alliance, plus i have not been there when those small fights happened so i don't know 100% what went on there either.
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Gneeznow
Minmatar
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.11.16 07:54:00 -
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Originally by: Kayna Eelai
Edited by: Kayna Eelai on 16/11/2007 07:52:28
a few days ago i logged into the game and saw this mail announcing that this noob alliance has wardecced us. a little bit of intel shows me that they are full of 1 or 2man corps and only one corp with a decent amount of members.
5 minutes later i was back in my favoutite system ratting stuff.
that is how much i care about your wardec. you complain about a few of our guys running away, when the fact probably is that you catched em in highsec doing PVE or hauling, absolutely not fitted or prepaired for a fight. you are also so proud about the fact that we outnumber you 5 to 1... then why do you stay in empire where you can pick targets and outnumber them 5 to 1?
you wardecced a 0.0 alliance... what are you waiting to come to 0.0?
disclaimer: i am kinda new in this alliance, all i say is my own personal opinion and might completely differ from the rest of the alliance, plus i have not been there when those small fights happened so i don't know 100% what went on there either.
Dont worry about crimson, they are gankbears, i jump into their camps in thakala solo in an Armageddon every other day and they scatter, they just want to shoot haulers.
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Tyrus Tenebros
Resolute Corp
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Posted - 2007.11.16 08:09:00 -
[24]
what a joke.
I hang out in provi all the time and TCF barely even tries to come out to 0.0 to have an actual fight.
Try posting a real fight to the forum if you want to brag.
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dssouleater
Underworld Protection Agency
The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.16 11:25:00 -
[25]
Originally by: Kayna Eelai
Edited by: Kayna Eelai on 16/11/2007 07:52:28
a few days ago i logged into the game and saw this mail announcing that this noob alliance has wardecced us. a little bit of intel shows me that they are full of 1 or 2man corps and only one corp with a decent amount of members.
5 minutes later i was back in my favoutite system ratting stuff.
that is how much i care about your wardec. you complain about a few of our guys running away, when the fact probably is that you catched em in highsec doing PVE or hauling, absolutely not fitted or prepaired for a fight. you are also so proud about the fact that we outnumber you 5 to 1... then why do you stay in empire where you can pick targets and outnumber them 5 to 1?
you wardecced a 0.0 alliance... what are you waiting to come to 0.0?
Thank you for posting brave warrior , today we killed a few more of your pilots who dare to help the cva carebears .
Yes we are noobs thats why none of our brave pilots have died yet !
You had a gang of 12 that knew of our gang of 6 yet they went the other ! , they tried to gank me and failed.
Wardecs are so we can fight in empire freely , 0.0 isnt needed then .
We havent killed a single hauler of the evil paxton carebears yet but hopefully this wont be long as itll probably put up more of a fight than your logoffski raven did.
Killing fully tech 2 ships is kinda fun though keep them coming paxton!
Good luck to all the brave warriors killing paxton and their carebear friends in 0.0
we wish paxton luck and hope to meet them on the battlefield soon were we will send them home to their clone vats! 
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Alita Tiphares
Aztek Industries
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Posted - 2007.11.16 11:35:00 -
[26]
i bump
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Hardin
Amarr
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.16 11:55:00 -
[27]
Originally by: dssouleater
Originally by: Kayna Eelai
Edited by: Kayna Eelai on 16/11/2007 07:52:28
a few days ago i logged into the game and saw this mail announcing that this noob alliance has wardecced us. a little bit of intel shows me that they are full of 1 or 2man corps and only one corp with a decent amount of members.
5 minutes later i was back in my favoutite system ratting stuff.
that is how much i care about your wardec. you complain about a few of our guys running away, when the fact probably is that you catched em in highsec doing PVE or hauling, absolutely not fitted or prepaired for a fight. you are also so proud about the fact that we outnumber you 5 to 1... then why do you stay in empire where you can pick targets and outnumber them 5 to 1?
you wardecced a 0.0 alliance... what are you waiting to come to 0.0?
Thank you for posting brave warrior , today we killed a few more of your pilots who dare to help the cva carebears .
Yes we are noobs thats why none of our brave pilots have died yet !
You had a gang of 12 that knew of our gang of 6 yet they went the other ! , they tried to gank me and failed.
Wardecs are so we can fight in empire freely , 0.0 isnt needed then .
We havent killed a single hauler of the evil paxton carebears yet but hopefully this wont be long as itll probably put up more of a fight than your logoffski raven did.
Killing fully tech 2 ships is kinda fun though keep them coming paxton!
Good luck to all the brave warriors killing paxton and their carebear friends in 0.0
we wish paxton luck and hope to meet them on the battlefield soon were we will send them home to their clone vats!
The smack is strong in this one 
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Laechyd Eldgorn
Caldari
Karjala Inc.
Onnenpyora
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Posted - 2007.11.16 13:43:00 -
[28]
It's new paxtonese(?) hide in pos tactic. Don'tcha know.
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Eltyron
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.11.16 13:55:00 -
[29]
GL to all involved. Hope you get fun fights and the arrogance/smack is kept to a minimum.
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Olavane Riftsnake
Clan Shadow Wolf
Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.16 14:01:00 -
[30]
Thanks for the update.
Good Luck to Paxton, no that you need any
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Kebabski
Minmatar
Yiotul Fighters
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.11.16 14:02:00 -
[31]
Originally by: The Mittani
if you mean paxton federation they held off all of bob like forever
not like that means much anymore but u know
Actually they didn't CVA+sylph did, LFA, PAXTON just brought the support rly
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ThaDollaGenerale
R.E.C.O.N.
Black-Out
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Posted - 2007.11.16 14:29:00 -
[32]
WITHOUT LINKS TO KILLBOARDS, I DON'T TRUST THIS
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Kayna Eelai
Gallente
Shadow Legion Covenant
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.16 14:36:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Laechyd Eldgorn
It's new paxtonese(?) hide in pos tactic. Don'tcha know.
and how would u know that? since onny wardecced us i am yet to see even ONE of your pilots in our space, lol.
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Dafuzz
Gallente
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.16 14:45:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Laechyd Eldgorn
It's new paxtonese(?) hide in pos tactic. Don'tcha know.
Paxton brings it. And friends.
Friendly bunch, and their bombers are simply Ebil.
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dssouleater
Underworld Protection Agency
The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.16 14:46:00 -
[35]
kayna come to high sec u will see us as others have seen that we can and do reign death upon your brave pilots.
goodfight to those that dont log and i wish you luck. its all about the pvp baby !
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Hsnopi
Minmatar
Paxton Industries
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Posted - 2007.11.16 15:02:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Eldwinn
Ketchup (the tomato variety) is a thixotropic substance, which often results in difficulties of removing it from a glass bottle. Often a glass bottle will appear to be blocked. The "common" method (inverting the bottle and hitting the bottom with the heel of the hand) can often cause the ketchup to suddenly gain enough momentum to begin flowing, and due to the shear stress on a thixotropic substance, lose viscosity, and therefore flow even more, causing a significant amount of ketchup to flow out of the bottle. Some people, seeking to avoid this problem, remove the product with the aid of a butter knife thrust into the opening. But this technique is generally slow and inefficient, and can potentially contaminate the ketchup.
There is a better technique that avoids both the thixotropic effect and the need for an inefficient tool. Known widely among caterers, it involves inverting the bottle and forcefully tapping its upper neck with two fingers (index and middle finger together). Specifically, with the Heinz Ketchup product, one taps the 57 circle on the neck. This helps the ketchup flow by applying correct G-forces.[7] Another solution to this problem appeared with the introduction of plastic squeeze bottles. More recently, Heinz and others have introduced an "upside-down" bottle, which further remedies the problem by keeping the remaining ketchup at the mouth of the bottle. These bottles are also fitted with a control valve in the nozzle designed to eliminate the build-up of ketchup in the cap after use. This, however, leads to squirt control problems.
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Manic Mole
VENOM72
Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.16 15:16:00 -
[37]
good luck paxton, and i hope both sides have fun.
also please call them crimson or something as calling them TCF gets me muddled up with the french who are much better at fighting.
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Lowanaera
Amarr
Celestial Janissaries
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.16 15:23:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Kebabski
Originally by: The Mittani
if you mean paxton federation they held off all of bob like forever
not like that means much anymore but u know
Actually they didn't CVA+sylph did, LFA, PAXTON just brought the support rly
It was Paxton's POS and gunners that destroyed 62 BoB ships on its own that night, our fleet contributed far less to that fight in the end.
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The Mittani
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.16 15:46:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Lowanaera
Originally by: Kebabski
Originally by: The Mittani
if you mean paxton federation they held off all of bob like forever
not like that means much anymore but u know
Actually they didn't CVA+sylph did, LFA, PAXTON just brought the support rly
It was Paxton's POS and gunners that destroyed 62 BoB ships on its own that night, our fleet contributed far less to that fight in the end.
yeah paxton are pretty chill brosefs hi5 dudes
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Dafuzz
Gallente
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.16 16:49:00 -
[40]
Originally by: The Mittani
yeah paxton are pretty chill brosefs hi5 dudes
I like em too hi10
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Mistress Suffering
Einherjar Rising
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Posted - 2007.11.16 17:06:00 -
[41]
I predict this war to be altogether unintersting.
I believe CVA contributed the gunners for Paxton's POS defense, having publically admitted that just like they recently had some folks jump alliance to Sev3rance to man their guns, they had done so for Paxton as well.
Looking at the Paxton KB itself, the most recent large fight lists 114 friendlies and 117 hostiles. Paxton contributes 2 capitals (out of 16 - 14 CVA) and 14 of the remaining 98 pilots. Mind you, this is in a system that Paxton holds sovereignty in.
Kind of a sad commentary on the nature of modern EVE warfare really.
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MiLojko
Paxton Industries
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.16 17:24:00 -
[42]
Sorry to hide, but we are to busy carebearing in crappy Providence. As Mistress already pointed out we have absolutely zero PvP force, we overall suck and have our masters CVA to keep us alive.
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Atiro Kali
Caldari
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2007.11.16 17:56:00 -
[43]
Ok besides all the smack talk in this thread I just wanna say that 1st off I am impartial to both sides so I see it this way.
If you wardec a 0.0 alliance dont expect to get good fights in empire. All you will find there are their haulers and marketing guys maybe a few mission runners at most. if you do wardec a 0.0 alliance/corp expect it to be boring because they are in 0.0.
No amount of smack talk or ridicule will change this and imo only serve to make the OP look like a nooblet since this is a KNOWN fact in eve.
If you want a good empire war find some pirate corp/alliance like Virus for instance, they will give you tons of fun!
If you wanna fight a 0.0 corp go to 0.0 and save urself the wardec costs lol.
Enjoy the meaningless thread.
"Space is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly hugely mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to space"
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M00dy
Killed In Action
The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.16 18:05:00 -
[44]
I would like to /sign and support this thread. OP is my hero.
RATatatatata
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Niding
Polaris Project
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.16 18:39:00 -
[45]
Edited by: Niding on 16/11/2007 18:42:34
Originally by: Mistress Suffering
I predict this war to be altogether unintersting.
I believe CVA contributed the gunners for Paxton's POS defense, having publically admitted that just like they recently had some folks jump alliance to Sev3rance to man their guns, they had done so for Paxton as well.
Looking at the Paxton KB itself, the most recent large fight lists 114 friendlies and 117 hostiles. Paxton contributes 2 capitals (out of 16 - 14 CVA) and 14 of the remaining 98 pilots. Mind you, this is in a system that Paxton holds sovereignty in.
Kind of a sad commentary on the nature of modern EVE warfare really.
Well, I cant see how its supposed to be sad that true friends help eachother out?
If anything its a sign of strenght that mutual allies drop everything they have and rush to assist if the other are in trouble..or?
If you take a peek at Paxton board you will find battles that are more in Paxtons favour numberwise, but as you probarly know, the citizens of Providence doesnt concern themselves overly with K/D ratios, killboards, etc.
Its about forging alliances and friendship.
If thats considered sad, id say that says more about the outsiders than it does of Holders (resident alliances of Provi).
And Paxton has assisted us (CVA and others) plenty of times, so its a two-way street in that regard. |
Losmandy
VENOM72
Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.16 19:10:00 -
[46]
Edited by: Losmandy on 16/11/2007 19:12:43
Amazing stuff Soul
The difficult can be done immediately
The impossible takes a little longer |
Mistress Suffering
Einherjar Rising
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Posted - 2007.11.16 19:42:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Niding
If you take a peek at Paxton board you will find battles that are more in Paxtons favour numberwise, but as you probarly know, the citizens of Providence doesnt concern themselves overly with K/D ratios, killboards, etc.
Its about forging alliances and friendship.
If thats considered sad, id say that says more about the outsiders than it does of Holders (resident alliances of Provi).
And Paxton has assisted us (CVA and others) plenty of times, so its a two-way street in that regard.
Paxton, CVA, and everyone else are perfectly welcome to fight with whatever resources they have, and bring whoever they want. That's your right and your decision.
Mostly I think it is sad that no one fights alone at all, particularly at the Alliance level. EVE fights above a certain number really aren't well supported by either mechanics or more importantly, the servers themselves.
I'd love it if fighting a 300 man alliance actually meant being able to fight that group itself. Their dozen total capitals against my dozen capitals. Instead, its their dozen caps, their neighbor's two dozen caps, maybe goon's fifteen dozen caps, and so on and so forth.
No one is going to bring less than that simply because EVE has no mechanism for limiting allied escalation. We all want to win, so we escalate as much as possible, because more numbers really does lend itself to a greater chance to win.
Unfortunately, more numbers doesn't lend itself to more fun. Instead it just leads to more lopsided fights, and mroe avoidance of anything other than the uberblob. If you get a 'good' fight, its usually because someone got caught unprepared and screwed up.
That's a shame. But not one I would ever expect to be solved at the player level.
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Mistress Suffering
Einherjar Rising
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Posted - 2007.11.16 20:10:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Niding
but as you probarly know, the citizens of Providence doesnt concern themselves overly with K/D ratios, killboards, etc.
Its about forging alliances and friendship.
Oh and just so we can keep this properly flammable, that particular idea is hogwash, regardless of who is putting it forth.
Everyone cares about their kills and losses, no matter how much they shout to the contrary. Killing people is fun, getting blown up is not.
People spend an awful lot of time on these forums trying to spin and justify losses, but at the end of the day, no one likes losing. Its this underlying truth that drives so much of the behavior in EVE, including the neverending push to bigger and bigger groups.
As long as EVE fails to include mechanisms that make it fun and effective to fight with smaller groups, this will continue to be the case. There are a few naturally existing ones (speed of deployment, ease of organization, etc...) but not enough, particularly at the sovereignty level.
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Snodgey2004
Mega Modal M0nkeys
Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2007.11.16 21:07:00 -
[49]
Originally by: MiLojko
Sorry to hide, but we are to busy carebearing in crappy Providence. As Mistress already pointed out we have absolutely zero PvP force, we overall suck and have our masters CVA to keep us alive.
Least you know your place
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dssouleater
Underworld Protection Agency
The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.17 00:23:00 -
[50]
Brave paxton pilots in empire now have warp core stabs fitted as standard .
They even managed their first kill , which cost them a couple of ships.
They continue to bravely loggoff , run and use wcs this war is going well .
They fear us and fear is good , maybe they should corner the market in guns and fighting modules as they have the warp core stab market sewn up .
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Dafuzz
Gallente
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.17 00:27:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Mistress Suffering
Everyone cares about their kills and losses, no matter how much they shout to the contrary. Killing people is fun, getting blown up is not.
I lost a ship today; it was a total riot and was completely fun.
I had been trying to lose that ship for weeks. True story.
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La'kar
Gallente
Paxton Industries
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.17 00:51:00 -
[52]
Originally by: dssouleater
Brave paxton pilots in empire now have warp core stabs fitted as standard .
They even managed their first kill , which cost them a couple of ships.
They continue to bravely loggoff , run and use wcs this war is going well .
They fear us and fear is good , maybe they should corner the market in guns and fighting modules as they have the warp core stab market sewn up .
I will admit.. I was the one who equipped some warp core stabs as I was shopping in Amarr. I feel bad but I couldn't hang around and play although I would have liked to. I just had too many things to do in 0.0
Maybe next time.
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Heavy MG
Paxton Industries
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.17 01:00:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Mistress Suffering
Mostly I think it is sad that no one fights alone at all, particularly at the Alliance level. EVE fights above a certain number really aren't well supported by either mechanics or more importantly, the servers themselves.
I'd love it if fighting a 300 man alliance actually meant being able to fight that group itself. Their dozen total capitals against my dozen capitals. Instead, its their dozen caps, their neighbor's two dozen caps, maybe goon's fifteen dozen caps, and so on and so forth.
No one is going to bring less than that simply because EVE has no mechanism for limiting allied escalation. We all want to win, so we escalate as much as possible, because more numbers really does lend itself to a greater chance to win.
Unfortunately, more numbers doesn't lend itself to more fun. Instead it just leads to more lopsided fights, and mroe avoidance of anything other than the uberblob. If you get a 'good' fight, its usually because someone got caught unprepared and screwed up.
That's a shame. But not one I would ever expect to be solved at the player level.
This isn't a problem to be "solved", its called "social interaction", "friendship" and "cooperation". It's a part of life and a part of the game.
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dssouleater
Underworld Protection Agency
The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.17 01:18:00 -
[54]
paxton you guys need to update your killboards currently you are losing 21 to 1 . not 13 to 1 as it says on your boards . trying to hide all the loses ? is it embarrasing to lose ships to us small guys ?
see you next time before you logoffski
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Saint Sebastian
Paxton Industries
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.17 04:21:00 -
[55]
Originally by: dssouleater
paxton you guys need to update your killboards currently you are losing 21 to 1 . not 13 to 1 as it says on your boards . trying to hide all the loses ? is it embarrasing to lose ships to us small guys ?
see you next time before you logoffski
We dont care... go away...
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sh4rp ov3rvolt
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Posted - 2007.11.17 08:04:00 -
[56]
Originally by: dssouleater
paxton you guys need to update your killboards currently you are losing 21 to 1 . not 13 to 1 as it says on your boards . trying to hide all the loses ? is it embarrasing to lose ships to us small guys ?
ow, I forgot to post my shuttle loss killmail 
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Cdr Foxbat
The Eastern Liberation Front
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Posted - 2007.11.17 12:01:00 -
[57]
So a "pvp" alliance killing 1 bs, 1 bc 6 cruisers and 3 frigs merits a coad chest beating thread these days?
Originally by: Marduk Felzhen
Originally by: Vorian Atraties
i bid my kidney...
i bid his other kidney
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Commander Solo
Digital Fury Corporation
Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.11.17 13:01:00 -
[58]
Thread needs MOAR cheese
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Revolution Rising
Coalition of Nations
Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2007.11.17 13:46:00 -
[59]
So you don't go into 0.0, you killed some cruisers and frigs and then complain because you caught some dude shopping and he logged...
Then you came on here and start smacking...
I only have one question...
Who the f*** is the crimson alliance?
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Dafuzz
Gallente
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.17 13:47:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Cdr Foxbat
So a "pvp" alliance killing 1 bs, 1 bc 6 cruisers and 3 frigs merits a coad chest beating thread these days?
I thought only BoB could get away with that, but I was mistaken.
We are obviously too carebearish!
<3
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Groes Thir
Gallente
Karjala Inc.
Onnenpyora
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Posted - 2007.11.17 14:06:00 -
[61]
A twist in the soap.
Onnenpyora has declared war on The Crimson Federation.
glhfnore.
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Daerkannon Shimmerscale
Gallente
Paxton Industries
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.17 15:55:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Groes Thir
Onnenpyora has declared war on The Crimson Federation.
For those not aware, Onnenpyora had a war dec running against us almost a week before these Crimson folks showed up... and they actually come to 0.0
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Niron Werls
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.11.17 16:46:00 -
[63]
Originally by: dssouleater
paxton you guys need to update your killboards currently you are losing 21 to 1 . not 13 to 1 as it says on your boards . trying to hide all the loses ? is it embarrasing to lose ships to us small guys ?
see you next time before you logoffski
I wouldnt complain too much about people not posting their KB losses lest you remind everyone that CRMSN does the exact same thing.
Nice to see you guys not pretending to be the valiant protector of carebears anymore though.
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dssouleater
Underworld Protection Agency
The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.17 16:54:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Daerkannon Shimmerscale
Originally by: Groes Thir
Onnenpyora has declared war on The Crimson Federation.
For those not aware, Onnenpyora had a war dec running against us almost a week before these Crimson folks showed up... and they actually come to 0.0
bring it !! maybe you will fight unlike these 0.0 carebears. and how much did they pay you?
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Tigerfish Torpedo
Underworld Protection Agency
The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.17 16:55:00 -
[65]
The old CRMSN did, yes. Despite us constantly requesting our pilots to submit all loss mails (as you'll know from having access to our alliance mail system), some of our industrialists (who have no interest in fighting), didn't ever submit. But oh well...
As for this new war,... We welcome the challenge. We see that our enemy are superior, but will still fight. I'm sure that if we employed using tactics such as the Crtl Q (exploit, meh), people would complain, in much the same light as we're doing here. Souls' post wasn't intended to start a smack war, but more point out that an agroed pilot, on a gate, can simply jump, reset his timer, and then vanish from scanners as his ship disppears (not warps away). How can anyone win in a war, if the enemy use Crtl Q every time? We've trapped two Ravens, 1 Fenrir, and they all Crtl Q'ed after jumping. Why on earth did CCP do this?! Why god damn it?!
I've seen so many damned nerfs, and change of game mechanics in my time, that the combat that once existed within game has long since died. This new carebear style of warfare is pointless,...
Come on CCP, stop making the game playable for mission runners, and do something for us combat pilots, pleaseeeeeee!
Tiger.
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El Torrent
Gallente
Paxton Industries
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.17 17:11:00 -
[66]
Interesting.
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Groes Thir
Gallente
Karjala Inc.
Onnenpyora
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Posted - 2007.11.17 17:23:00 -
[67]
Originally by: dssouleater
bring it !! maybe you will fight unlike these 0.0 carebears. and how much did they pay you?
Doing it threeways is always more interesting.
As a great man once said: "TO THETR DRUMNBS OF WAR WET GHO"
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.11.17 19:26:00 -
[68]
I learned a lot about Crimson and how they play.
Some of them were ok, most of them we're pretty lame.
I see not much has changed. Our small corp dec'd their 500 man alliance. We pounded them for about 2 months worth of pvp goodness.
Of course every kill we scored they complained about and had excuses for. Any time they scored a kill it was followed by the same chest thumping smack talk and bragging behavior.
You can read it all here.
We found out they like to lie, they chicken out of fights even when the numbers were in their favor, they purposely don't post all their losses, Tigerfish included along with several others. I caught them in a ton of lies in my story. I caught them logoffski'ing as well.
You know the type of people who dock up when it's 5 vs 1 of them, and they sit and brag how we need 5 people to kill 1, then the next day they camp 1 of us with 10 people and brag how awesome they are and how much we suck because we can't beat 10 vs 1 odds.
One would think their behavior might change given the fact they started their alliance from scratch again, but it looks like more of the same.
The funny thing I find with them claiming Paxton hides behind CVA, yet when they got dec'd themselves by us and REPO they asked the Sylph alliance to help them out at the same time they were aiding Sylph's enemies. Real quality people there.
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dssouleater
Underworld Protection Agency
The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.17 20:03:00 -
[69]
the forum troll is here!!! let the smack commence :-(
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Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.17 20:36:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Tigerfish Torpedo
Come on CCP, stop making the game playable for mission runners, and do something for us combat pilots, pleaseeeeeee!
This is the heart of your issue right here: your idea of quality pvp seems to revolve around the capacity to gank mission runners. When you target carebears, expect carebear behavior. If you want quality pvp, target pvpers. If you're interested in hitting Paxton financially and feel you can do this by pressuring their mission runners...be content when they log out with the knowledge that each failed mission is a standings hit.
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Chris Vattic
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Posted - 2007.11.17 20:47:00 -
[71]
2007.11.17 20:33
The war between The Crimson Federation and Paxton Federation is coming to an end. The Crimson Federation has retracted the war against Paxton Federation. The war will be declared as being over after approximately 24 hours.
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Gneeznow
Minmatar
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.11.17 20:53:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Chris Vattic
2007.11.17 20:33
The war between The Crimson Federation and Paxton Federation is coming to an end. The Crimson Federation has retracted the war against Paxton Federation. The war will be declared as being over after approximately 24 hours.
lol
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Eshestun
Caldari
The Mavericks
Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.17 21:00:00 -
[73]
"declared war on this carebear heatherns , Paxton Industrial"
"glorious crimson federation"
"they havent managed to kill any of our brave pilots in combat ."
Tell me I'm not the only one who finds it funny that they are trying make make themselves seem "glorious" and "brave" for attacking "carebear industrial" corp?
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Amethyst Savage
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Posted - 2007.11.17 21:55:00 -
[74]
Edited by: Amethyst Savage on 17/11/2007 21:55:43
this seems to be happened after one of ours alliance member blowed someone that seems to be their ceo?
Altough the campaign is now pending on our Side
simply
"Glorious"
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dssouleater
Underworld Protection Agency
The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.17 22:05:00 -
[75]
lol , paxton finally got a blob together took them a few days which is even slower than sylph's 3 hours to form a blob ! nice one!
We have bigger fish to fry now and have people that want to fight and not loggoffski or have as many wcs in their lows as they can fit.
This is an exciting time for crimson . BTW the guy you killed was a brave fighter who got careless , those that attacked him died right after , so paid for their crimes against our brave crimson pilot.
Its been fun watching you all smack , troll and post things totally irrelevant to this post .
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Kayna Eelai
Gallente
Shadow Legion Covenant
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.17 22:11:00 -
[76]
Edited by: Kayna Eelai on 17/11/2007 22:13:21
Originally by: dssouleater
those that attacked him died right after
lol? try again, this time without lying. unless u mean "died of boredom" as all crimsons hushed away, logged off, etc etc etc."
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Vir Obitus
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Posted - 2007.11.17 22:19:00 -
[77]
Originally by: dssouleater
lol , paxton finally got a blob together took them a few days which is even slower than sylph's 3 hours to form a blob ! nice one!
We have bigger fish to fry now and have people that want to fight and not loggoffski or have as many wcs in their lows as they can fit.
This is an exciting time for crimson . BTW the guy you killed was a brave fighter who got careless , those that attacked him died right after , so paid for their crimes against our brave crimson pilot.
Its been fun watching you all smack , troll and post things totally irrelevant to this post .
Pretty sure i didnt die at all... im actually feeling quite well.
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Gneeznow
Minmatar
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.11.17 22:27:00 -
[78]
Originally by: dssouleater
lol , paxton finally got a blob together took them a few days which is even slower than sylph's 3 hours to form a blob ! nice one!
We have bigger fish to fry now and have people that want to fight and not loggoffski or have as many wcs in their lows as they can fit.
This is an exciting time for crimson . BTW the guy you killed was a brave fighter who got careless , those that attacked him died right after , so paid for their crimes against our brave crimson pilot.
Its been fun watching you all smack , troll and post things totally irrelevant to this post .
Your starting to sound like the iraqi information minister right here, also, i'm going to blow up your navy apoc shortly.
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El Torrent
Gallente
Paxton Industries
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.17 22:32:00 -
[79]
Originally by: dssouleater
lol , paxton finally got a blob together took them a few days which is even slower than sylph's 3 hours to form a blob ! nice one!
We have bigger fish to fry now and have people that want to fight and not loggoffski or have as many wcs in their lows as they can fit.
This is an exciting time for crimson . BTW the guy you killed was a brave fighter who got careless , those that attacked him died right after , so paid for their crimes against our brave crimson pilot.
Its been fun watching you all smack , troll and post things totally irrelevant to this post .
So, let my try to understand this the right way.
1. The Glorious Crimson Federation War Decs silly useless carebear Paxton Federation.
2. They cry, because we chose to not come down to fight in useless and lagged empire
3. So, we create a gang, and I get more Industrialists then fighters in said gang. No idea whats going on, but maybe said people, who you call carebears actually care about their honour in game, and chose to gang up. We had around 35 or so people, half of them not seasoned PvPers, more like people who enjoy the relaxed gameplay we can provide to them. Nobody was talking in alliance chat, because they all were in gang.
4. Blobbing: I am sorry, we live together, and we fight together. I am not going to say no if someone asks a gang invite, because you call him carebear on a public forum.
5. We took look for your people, in the hope your Glorious warriors who are honorable actually stand up to their word. We got asked to fight, we chose to fight, and what did we get? You retract the war.
6. If you really want to target us, and hurt us, first do some research. I coudn't care less for some people dying in empire. Empire wardecs move my people to where I want them. Thanks for offering me this service.
7. That deimos got killed by a Maelstorm, who was fully tank setup. No scrambler, No web. The Pilot also got podded.
8. Vir Obitus Maeltrom is still in one piece. Unless my game is broken, and in reality it is a wreck that can tank my Thron.
9. Usually we don't really talk in local. This time we did to return the love. I don't think we ran to forums first.
Anyway. Much of fun to the Glorious Crimson Federation Warriors. May you reach whatever goals you have set yourself.
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dssouleater
Underworld Protection Agency
The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.17 23:20:00 -
[80]
i was referring to the sabre pilot that died and his attackers that died i wasnt aware of the deimos .
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.11.18 00:31:00 -
[81]
Yeah you have to enjoy themselves tooting their own horn in this thread. I love how hypocritical they are.
We had a large, low sec based carebear corp steal from a kill of ours and we war dec'd them. Crimson offered them "safe harbor" in their alliance figuring our corp would run from a challenge. They thought wrong.
They also said they were gallant and chivalrous for protecting the weak 180 man low sec corp from my corp from our 10 man Empire pirate wanna-be corp.
They called us weak Empire bullies who can't hack low sec because we're not real pirates. They claimed all we did was blob. They claimed we never wanted to fight. Yet when I broke down the stats of the war, it was obvious who continuously had more on their side on every kill overall. It's very hard for a corp with 10 active players spread out across the world to blob anyone.
Now they've dec'd a corp who is based in 0.0 and they don't go to 0.0 to fight them. Instead they cheer themselves on over a few easy kills in Empire against people who aren't prepared to fight. Funny, when we killed their industry and mission runner players, they kept saying we sucked because we weren't targeting their pvp forces.
I just don't get how if they do it, it's 100% awesomely cool and uber, and they have a small alliance doing it, then when my corp of 10 active people dec's their 500 man alliance and 2 other corps for 2 months, we're the sucky ones.
They make no sense.
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sh4rp ov3rvolt
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Posted - 2007.11.18 01:34:00 -
[82]
au revoir, "glorious" Crimson Federation... 
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M00dy
Killed In Action
The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.18 01:58:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Nexa Necis
Stuff
Nexa your stuck in the past. I know Traps and Crimson had some bad blood back then, but let's bury the hatchet.
As to our war with Paxton, I'm glad it's ending. It was a bore fest. Paxton does a great job of hiding from our pilots. I spent two days of the war flying up and down the Hibi - Yong pipe looking for targets, but couldn't find any. So props to you for minimizing your losses.
The main reason we're ending the war is so we can focus on all our attention on our new enemies, which should provide plenty of pvp actiony goodness. Can't wait.
RATatatatata
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Heretycs
Paxton Industries
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.18 02:01:00 -
[84]
Originally by: M00dy
As to our war with Paxton, I'm glad it's ending. It was a bore fest. Paxton does a great job of hiding from our pilots. I spent two days of the war flying up and down the Hibi - Yong pipe looking for targets, but couldn't find any. So props to you for minimizing your losses.
The main reason we're ending the war is so we can focus on all our attention on our new enemies, which should provide plenty of pvp actiony goodness. Can't wait.
no, we're not really good at hiding. we told you exacly where we were. 0.0 space. you can't war dec a 0.0 alliance and cry about them not being in empire for you to shoot at.
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El Torrent
Gallente
Paxton Industries
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.18 11:04:00 -
[85]
Originally by: M00dy
Originally by: Nexa Necis
Stuff
Nexa your stuck in the past. I know Traps and Crimson had some bad blood back then, but let's bury the hatchet.
As to our war with Paxton, I'm glad it's ending. It was a bore fest. Paxton does a great job of hiding from our pilots. I spent two days of the war flying up and down the Hibi - Yong pipe looking for targets, but couldn't find any. So props to you for minimizing your losses.
The main reason we're ending the war is so we can focus on all our attention on our new enemies, which should provide plenty of pvp actiony goodness. Can't wait.
I understand that it must be boring looking for us, where we do not live.
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fire 59
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.18 11:26:00 -
[86]
Paxton federation put alot of the coalition to shame with the tenacity that they fight with . For guys who i never even knew existed before some truly epic battles, they give it there all
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.11.19 05:17:00 -
[87]
No, I am not stuck in the past in the least. I was pointing out that the same behaviors are being seen again from Crimson.
The points I made in my story are the same ones people are laughing at you in this thread.
If you want people to see a different picture than the one that the "old" Crimson painted, you're going to have to actually make the changes.
I mean really, the fact you guys posted this thread is fairly laughable. I mean c'mon, you're war dec'ing a 0.0 group of people then not even going into 0.0 to fight them, then you call them names for not coming to Empire to fight and such. Even from a role play stance it borders on absurd.
Have you noticed the lack of positive responses in this thread? There's a good reason for it.
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Dianeces
Minmatar
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2007.11.19 05:53:00 -
[88]
Posting in what promises to be the thread of the year.
Quote:
Cristobalus DeMora > so what do the forums say?
Jaleean Atheria > smack smack smack flame smack flame smack smack flame alt post flame flame flame smack flame *click*
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