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Riethe	Posted - 2007.11.16 23:49:00 - [1] [RHCRP] Expansion [Nov 16] Once again hello everyone. It seems that I am slowly getting more and more familiar with these forums, and hopefully I am becoming more and more familiar to you as well. It is my goal to establish myself within the investing community and hopefully unlock the endless potential of being able to work with investors on new and exciting endeavors. RHCRP is my holding corp for the bond I am currently running. RHCRP is the very first public bond I've ever offered. It is my first actual experience working alongside investors. I think it's important that I establish these facts early on in this post to avoid any confusion in the future. I do however hope that the investors I have been working with thus far will find their way to this thread and perhaps elaborate on their experiences with me regarding the bond. The original IPO post can be found here: Link Additional Information: Link The first dividend payout: Link Please note the dates of these threads before posting in them, they're far from the first page. If you have any questions or comments, post them in this thread. RHCRP launched conservatively. This was primarily due to the fact that it's my first offering, and I wasn't sure how much I could take on. So Initially I announced my dividend returns at a safe number, something I knew I could do, and only took on very low amount of investments. Well time has shown that my conservative estimates were just that--conservative. After much discourse amongst investors, it has been decided that the natural progression of the bond is to expand itself until it reaches capacity. Capacity is both defined as what investors feel they want to put in, and how much I can personally handle, both game-mechanically and mentally. Also it is very important to take note of the fact that, while more shares are being added, the actually cost of the shares is the same, and the originally planned dividend percentage will NOT go down. It will continue to be 15% minimum, and any additional gains will continue to go toward the dividend. This is made possible by the fact that I currently have room to support more funding, and can continue to diversify even further in the markets, without making any sacrifices to the value of shares. Over the past few days a private offering has been given to current shareholders, and they were provided first dibs at reserving new shares. This expansion consists of an additional 10000 shares. However, the corporation is also going to hold 7000 shares on top of that. The reason for this is to allow for a progressive integration of shares over time. To prevent exceeding my limitations, more shares will be offered very slowly on top of the expansion. This will come as a gradual process and will be entirely based on assessment of my personal capabilities in handling the additional funding and actually being able to use it. As a result of these additional shares being kept on-hand and not utilized immediately, multiple dividends will end up being paid out each month, in rapid succession. (continued in next post)
Riethe	Posted - 2007.11.16 23:50:00 - [2] To explain further: The dividend will be paid like normal, however a small percentage of the payout will end up in the holding corp's wallet. I will continue to issue out the dividend until all of the ISK has been emptied from the wallet. You will not lose ISK from this, and your investment will still be the same. Ultimately, all it means is that you will receive 4 or 5 emails regarding the dividend, rather than a single mail. If this doesn't make sense or you have any questions regarding it, feel free to ask, as I'm unsure if I've adequately explained it. Also in addition to that, any questions regarding any aspect of the bond are more than welcome and I will try my best to address them. Please review the 3 links I've provided above to get an idea about my bond and what has been going on. Anyone is more than welcome to join the mailing list, RHCRP, whether you're an investor or not, it's open to all eyes. This thread is essentially dual purpose, it will both announce share distribution and be used for questions / comments. I will update share availability as they are claimed so that investors have an idea when the cut off point will be. Please note if you're interested in making a very large reservation, it can only be held for a short period time as it cuts off sale to other potential investors. RHCRP Expansion: 10 000 shares 1 million ISK per share Also, just because it came up a few times: RHCRP does NOT accept shares of other IPOs as payment. This is a public offering. Any individual can invest. Shares are ready to be purchased as of the creation of this thread. To clarify once more: shares ARE available. You can purchase them upon reading this. Please also note that the first set of investors had a chance at first pick on these shares, so their reservations will be filled first. And finally: The bond will still run for the intended period of time (a total of 6 months). After the bond reaches maturity and the six months have elapsed, a buyback will be offered to all investors. However, At that time, there may also be interest in a continuation of the bond, or a new offering. Investors will be provided the option to sell all their shares back at full value, or continue on board with the next phases of the bond. Thanks everyone. Let me know if any of this causes any confusion and I will attempt to address it.
EBANK Ricdic Eve-Tech Savings n Loans Zzz	Posted - 2007.11.17 00:07:00 - [3] How much of the 10b was raised by private investors in total? ie how many shares are available right now?
Riethe	Posted - 2007.11.17 01:01:00 - [4] Originally by: EBANK Ricdic How much of the 10b was raised by private investors in total? ie how many shares are available right now? Nearly half has been claimed. Although I use the term claimed very loosely, as some of these are rather ambiguous reservations based on a few investors potentially freeing up ISK to make the investment. For the time being, there is quite a bit of availability to go around to any public investors. If any reservations are changed or canceled, the additional availability will be announced.
John Newport Caldari Newport Family Trust Fund	Posted - 2007.11.17 01:30:00 - [5] I'll have 26 of those share plz. for an amount of 26 million ISK. Thanks, John Newport, Smalltime Investor.
Riethe	Posted - 2007.11.17 04:30:00 - [6] Originally by: John Newport Edited by: John Newport on 17/11/2007 01:35:49 I'll have 26 of those share plz. for an amount of 26 million ISK. Thanks, John Newport, Smalltime Investor. edit, ISK sent to Riethe ISK received, Shares transferred. Thanks for your investment. Don't forget to join the mailing list as a lot of updates are provided there. Also do not hesitate to contact me in-game if you have any questions or concerns. Regards
Xantheris Unknown-Heroes	Posted - 2007.11.17 05:19:00 - [7] 22mil sent for 22 shares. Wish I had more to invest at the moment
Shadarle	Posted - 2007.11.17 05:45:00 - [8] Eh... I still have most of the same reservations that I did in the original thread. I also think it is too soon to get more investment after the initial offering. That said, I would like to reserve 1000 shares (1 billion isk) worth. I can afford to lose it and I would like you to prove me wrong. I can definitely get the money to you within 24 hours, more likely it will be far less than that. I just can't log in right this second to send the money. And just to confirm, the money should be sent to Riethe? Tanking Setups Compared Stacking Penalty / Resists Explained
Riethe	Posted - 2007.11.17 06:13:00 - [9] Originally by: Xantheris 22mil sent for 22 shares. Wish I had more to invest at the moment You should have your shares now. Thanks for your investment. Also remember in the future: To vote, right-click your shares in your wallet and click the "vote" option to get your vote in regarding any upcoming changes or ideas. Originally by: Shadarle Eh... I still have most of the same reservations that I did in the original thread. I also think it is too soon to get more investment after the initial offering. That said, I would like to reserve 1000 shares (1 billion isk) worth. I can afford to lose it and I would like you to prove me wrong. I can definitely get the money to you within 24 hours, more likely it will be far less than that. I just can't log in right this second to send the money. And just to confirm, the money should be sent to Riethe? Hi again Shadarle. If you decide you would like to invest, the money should be sent to this character, Riethe. As far as your opinions regarding the bond launch date and expansion, and all things in between, I'd be very interested in having a conversation with you regarding your ideal execution of similar ventures. Contact me in game if you'd be interested. Best regards
EBANK Ricdic Eve-Tech Savings n Loans Zzz	Posted - 2007.11.17 06:42:00 - [10] I think the guy has a good head on his shoulders. I have spent a little time in-game with him and am willing to give him a shot. Obviously due to the higher risk involved EBANK is only investing profits earnt thus far to ensure no customer's funds are lost. So EBANK has purchased 2.5b worth of bonds. (500 of which are for me personally to buy back off EBANK when I get C-P-H sorted out. This is not an endorsement of any sort. We are taking a risk just like everyone else
Treelox Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2007.11.17 08:38:00 - [11] thread derailment in progress Originally by: EBANK Ricdic I think the guy has a good head on his shoulders. i find the irony of such a statement being used by a floating head, to fricken funny to not point out for the masses. thread derailment complete To the OP, sorry to have soiled your thread --
EBANK Ricdic Eve-Tech Savings n Loans Zzz	Posted - 2007.11.17 09:27:00 - [12]
Ekaterina Volkova Caldari Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.17 10:03:00 - [13] 200 shares for me please.
Taryn Ceridwen Un4seen Development	Posted - 2007.11.17 10:03:00 - [14] Isk sent for 100 shares. Many thanks
JadeMako	Posted - 2007.11.17 10:28:00 - [15] Please reserve 100 shares, isk on its way.
Jennine Tyler	Posted - 2007.11.17 11:02:00 - [16] I would like to reserve 1000 shares (1bn). Isk will be sent shortly after Downtime.
Krugerrand 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.11.17 11:40:00 - [17] I would like to reserve 200m of shares and will send the ISK once you confirm there are still some available.
Auri Hella Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.11.17 11:53:00 - [18] I'd like 200 shares if they're still available.
Ingar Killson	Posted - 2007.11.17 12:15:00 - [19] 200 shares please, isk sent
Minerva Vulcan Caldari The Nexus Foundation	Posted - 2007.11.17 12:15:00 - [20] I'll take 500 shares for giggles. _______________________________ I need new voices in my head, To speak my secret evils with. I need new lovers in my bed, To be my friends and special pets.
Riethe	Posted - 2007.11.17 12:44:00 - [21] Just to clarify for everyone: There is a lot of room for investment right now. As far as availability is concerned, there's no issue there at this point in time. It's a relatively large expansion, so I don't think it'll fill up quite as fast as most think. I'll be transferring everyone's shares shortly.
bonkerss Mortis Angelus The Church.	Posted - 2007.11.17 13:23:00 - [22] ya ill have 100 shares then please www.mortisangelus.co.uk
Minerva Vulcan Caldari The Nexus Foundation	Posted - 2007.11.17 13:55:00 - [23] Upped to 650 shares, as you know. _______________________________ I need new voices in my head, To speak my secret evils with. I need new lovers in my bed, To be my friends and special pets.
Riethe	Posted - 2007.11.17 14:03:00 - [24] Originally by: Minerva Vulcan Upped to 650 shares, as you know. Thoroughly enjoyed our conversation, as you know. ) Should be all transferred to your wallet. Everyone else who has invested so far should have had their accounts credited with the appropriate amount of shares. Thanks everyone for the investments so far. If we haven't really gotten a chance to talk yet, we will do so in the future.
Ghost Emperor Amarr EvE Mutual Fund Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.17 19:04:00 - [25] Hi Riethe Can I make an initial investment of 1bn for 1,000 shares please and ask how many are left at the moment? I have been through the threads and assume that I send isk to you? Many thanks and good luck with your ventures Visit EvE Galactic Stock Exchange and Real-time Eve Stock Exchange (in game or out, but trades in game). For E
Fader Bane Black Knight Buccaneers Daisho Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.17 19:21:00 - [26] I'm liking my 100 total shares Riethe. Keep up the good work. ________________________________________
Auri Hella Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.11.17 19:25:00 - [27] Originally by: Riethe Everyone else who has invested so far should have had their accounts credited with the appropriate amount of shares. I haven't. Could you check your records?
Zeta LaFrege	Posted - 2007.11.17 19:26:00 - [28] Hiya, Im sending you 50mill to buy shares for this character. Hope the venture goes well! how many shares are left?
Erah	Posted - 2007.11.17 20:25:00 - [29] I'll take 100 of those shares too Thx
Riethe	Posted - 2007.11.17 23:00:00 - [30] Putting this at the top since it's the most likely to be noticed: There are still shares available for purchase/reservation. Originally by: Ghost Emperor Edited by: Ghost Emperor on 17/11/2007 19:27:12 Edited by: Ghost Emperor on 17/11/2007 19:26:32 Hi Riethe Can I make an initial investment of 1bn for 1,000 shares please and ask how many are left at the moment? I have been through the threads and assume that I send isk to you? [Edit: Isk sent :)] Many thanks and good luck with your ventures I responded to the evemail you sent me in-game regarding your concerns. Hopefully that helps. Yes, ISK goes to Riethe. Always confirm the name. Copy and paste works best, generally. Originally by: Fader Bane I'm liking my 100 total shares Riethe. Keep up the good work. Glad to hear. Thanks a lot. Originally by: Auri Hella I haven't. Could you check your records? I think this may have happened simply because you made your investment right as I was logging off and I never saw it. I apologize if there was any confusion. You should have your shares now. Thanks for your investment, and be sure to follow the mailing list. Originally by: Zeta LaFrege Hiya, Im sending you 50mill to buy shares for this character. Hope the venture goes well! how many shares are left? I've transferred your shares. Thanks for your investment. Be sure to read all the posts on the mailing list and catch yourself up with what has been going on. Feel free to contact me in-game if you have any concerns regarding the bond. Originally by: Erah I'll take 100 of those shares too Thx Shares transferred. Thanks for your investment. Hopefully we'll get a chance to talk soon. Just some quick general information for everyone: Please read all the threads if you're planning on investing. There's a lot of useful information regarding the bond that might be worth reading up on. Share availability is not a large concern right now. Keep in mind this expansion is made to support up to 17,000 shares. Your investments and reservations can still be noted down. The additional shares (the 7,000 shares) will eventually be distributed. Chances are they won't be officially distributed until after the next dividend payout. To answer a few other concerns I've received in-game: Some investors prefer privacy. If you're that kind of investor, you do not have to publicly announce your investment. This is entirely at your discretion. If you inform me you'd like to remain private, I will respect that wish. I also generally like to get in contact with everyone on an individual level, so don't panic if I convo you. We're all peers here, and hopefully I can adequately convey my personal interest in the success of my business. I feel that the interaction aspect of the venture is just as important as the dividend payout. However, if for some reason the only email you'd like to receive from me has the word "dividend" in it, I can respect that wish as well. Thanks everyone.
Riethe	Posted - 2007.11.17 23:10:00 - [31] Just one more thing for now: Because of the rules of this forum, it might be beneficial to the expansion offering to keep purchase "announcements" at minimum. While I don't personally mind (most purchases act as dual purpose and provide free bumps to the thread), it would seem that the folks who moderate our forums could have problems with it. I would hate for this thread to come off as a "sell order" and end up getting locked. I'd just like to stay on the safe side, and hopefully promote this thread as discussion or for the sake of awareness. If this thread had to be re-posted in the sell order area, chances are the exposure it would get would be significantly less. Please limit your reservations to evemails, unless you have any problems regarding a purchase or shares being transferred or anything of that sort. Thanks everyone, let's keep the moderators happy. Otherwise we can't have nice things. Regards
Mr Horizontal Gallente Brotherhood of Wolves	Posted - 2007.11.18 01:19:00 - [32] Hey Riethe! 100m should be flashing in your wallet for 100 of those shares
Ricdic's Hoe	Posted - 2007.11.18 02:06:00 - [33] Mods won't have a problem with people listing their share purchases here, it has been done for tens of other businesses before yours. Now, can we please get a firm number for precisely how many shares are left? Not a "maybe this is reserved" "there are lots left etc" but a direct number that are available right now? I have been fielding concerns towards your operations all day most notably in respect to your wanting to keep investors private and saying there are lots of shares left without actually saying how many. Not trying to go off at you in any way Riethe as I do feel you have the best intentions, but I think the way you are trying to promote this is shooting yourself in the foot.
Shadarle	Posted - 2007.11.18 02:20:00 - [34] Mods can't stop your thread just because others post reservations. It has been done in any number of other threads as Ricdic said. Just list how many shares are remaining. And as an aside: I think the fact that so many people are willing to post on the forum about share purchases is proof that most people don't actually care about privacy. A good 70-90% of shares are generally listed on the forum purchase thread. (Haven't had enough discussion about this recently) Tanking Setups Compared Stacking Penalty / Resists Explained
Minerva Vulcan Caldari The Nexus Foundation	Posted - 2007.11.18 02:42:00 - [35] I'm going to give Riethe the benefit of people's doubt here and say that the reason he hasn't listed exactly how many shares are left is because today being the first day that his expansion is open to the public it's constantly changing as a number of people are jumping on board throughout the day. Also, it's a Saturday and I've noticed he's been on and off, tranferring shares and maybe chatting people up for a few moments before having to head off again to go about his personal business. I'd think a count of shares left sometime tomorrow morning would be in order, though. _______________________________ I need new voices in my head, To speak my secret evils with. I need new lovers in my bed, To be my friends and special pets.
Mayoh Deftinwolf	Posted - 2007.11.18 04:00:00 - [36] I'm pretty interested ISK sent for 55 shares
Thaere	Posted - 2007.11.18 06:15:00 - [37] I would estimate less than 3000 shares are left
Riethe	Posted - 2007.11.18 07:22:00 - [38] Originally by: Mr Horizontal Hey Riethe! 100m should be flashing in your wallet for 100 of those shares 100 shares should be flashing in your wallet as well. Thank you for your investment. Be sure to follow the mailing list. (RHCRP in-game) Originally by: Ricdic's Hoe Mods won't have a problem with people listing their share purchases here, it has been done for tens of other businesses before yours. Typically I'd agree and hope that they would allow for such activity, but after reading a few threads, most recently, this one, I thought it might be worthwhile to play it safe. (and yes, I'm aware that post is on a slightly different topic, however it is what got me thinking on it.) Originally by: Ricdic's Hoe Now, can we please get a firm number for precisely how many shares are left? Not a "maybe this is reserved" "there are lots left etc" but a direct number that are available right now? While I can fully understand why this would come off as relatively sketchy, my feelings regarding the topic have developed after viewing the offering of other ventures, and observing investors of my venture. Basically, I feel that a person's decision to invest shouldn't be persuaded by "availability." If that person is considering investing in my venture to begin with, then I would at least hope that they would expect me to be honest and return their investment if the shares have sold out. If I were to announce there were X numbers of shares left, a individual, or a few individuals, would see that as an opportunity to squat on the shares until they can free up the money to finalize the investment. This happened with my original offering, and I ended up having to cancel out a reservation and offer the shares to another individual who had been patiently waiting. I was hoping to avoid this situation altogether, however it seems that in the eye of investors, it does not come off as standard or professional, although I was never formally informed that offerings had to be so linear in their design. Having said all that: There are 2833 shares left for purchase. Originally by: Ricdic's Hoe I have been fielding concerns towards your operations all day most notably in respect to your wanting to keep investors private and saying there are lots of shares left without actually saying how many. I apologize for creating a nervous atmosphere. It was my ideal execution of something that could have probably used a bit more explanation on my part. It's entirely understandable that you would have concern about this, when looking at it from that perspective it does seem sketch. Originally by: Ricdic's Hoe Not trying to go off at you in any way Riethe as I do feel you have the best intentions, but I think the way you are trying to promote this is shooting yourself in the foot. I fully understand, I think it's absolutely necessary that these kinds of considerations are made and brought up. It is both mine and your (the investor's) responsibility to have discussions regarding any aspect of the venture that seem ambiguous or in any way confusing. Originally by: Shadarle And as an aside: I think the fact that so many people are willing to post on the forum about share purchases is proof that most people don't actually care about privacy. A good 70-90% of shares are generally listed on the forum purchase thread. (Haven't had enough discussion about this recently) I don't think that a random percentage of the people that are okay with their investment being public suddenly makes it okay to disregard the people that do actually value their privacy in investments. I think that kind of perspective is the exact opposite of the kind of relationship I would like to have with my investors. Best regards
FastLearner Fury Holdings Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.11.18 10:56:00 - [39] The concern was largely a veyr simple mathematical one. You're selliong 10k shares - of which you said roughly half were pre-booked. The thread has furtehr bookings for around 7.5k shares, yet there's still nearly 3k left. To add up that means of the 12.5k(ish) shares booked/sold (in this thread + pre this this thread) nearly half weren't actually purchased. Very wierd.
Shadarle	Posted - 2007.11.18 15:23:00 - [40] Originally by: Riethe Originally by: Shadarle And as an aside: I think the fact that so many people are willing to post on the forum about share purchases is proof that most people don't actually care about privacy. A good 70-90% of shares are generally listed on the forum purchase thread. (Haven't had enough discussion about this recently) I don't think that a random percentage of the people that are okay with their investment being public suddenly makes it okay to disregard the people that do actually value their privacy in investments. I think that kind of perspective is the exact opposite of the kind of relationship I would like to have with my investors. You're jumping to conclusions, making assumptions and reading things I didn't write. I never said CEO's should 'out' people who contacted them privately. Instead I think it is quite clear that most of the investors we see here do not care one little bit about the privacy of their investment. If they did they wouldn't post on the forums to reserve shares. So my point was that any IPO that stated form the beginning it would be revealing shareholder names would not have any problems getting investors. Tanking Setups Compared Stacking Penalty / Resists Explained
Orion Shurtak Mission Runners United	Posted - 2007.11.18 17:28:00 - [41] Isk sent for 50 shares. -------------------------------------------------- Mission Runners United
Sikozu Prioris Suns Of Korhal	Posted - 2007.11.18 18:06:00 - [42] isk and a message sent for 500 shares "A enemy fleet emerges from the shadows" - What shadows!?! We're in ****ing space for gods sake
Calgorac The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.11.18 18:48:00 - [43] 15%? Very nice return for your investors if you can sustain it over time. Latest News
Tatania Apparition	Posted - 2007.11.18 19:47:00 - [44] Originally by: Calgorac 15%? Very nice return for your investors if you can sustain it over time. He's had one successful dividend payout so far to the tune of 22.8% I believe it was.
Freudian Slip	Posted - 2007.11.19 19:22:00 - [45] 1 billion sent for 1,000 shares
shadowofflame	Posted - 2007.11.19 21:01:00 - [46] i would like to buy 50 shares for 50m. One question is how do you buy shares just got start into investing so dont know how?
shadowofflame	Posted - 2007.11.19 21:07:00 - [47] never mind if i read your last post i would know! And now i have isk will be sent!
Iron Guerilla Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.11.21 05:41:00 - [48] Isk sent for shares yesterday, realized I didnt let you know in thread. Thanks.
Admiral Grevious	Posted - 2007.11.22 04:45:00 - [49] Isk for shares sent.
Beexer	Posted - 2007.11.22 22:27:00 - [50] Sent 100m for 100 shares.
Calgorac The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.11.24 03:37:00 - [51] rrr Latest News
Treelox Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party	Posted - 2007.11.24 13:21:00 - [52] Seems that Riethe has gone scam --

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