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sullahp
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Posted - 2007.11.17 00:03:00 -
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Edited by: sullahp on 17/11/2007 00:04:00
ok, i've only just realised how severe the nerf is going to be.
why? why? why? are the goal posts constantly being shifted...
surely the raven has had it's fair share of nerfs already...
in turn are they (ccp) going to raise the damage potential of torpedoes to bring them in line with blasters and make it a front line ship again??
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Jacob Castillo
Caldari
Copperhead Inc.
Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.11.17 00:09:00 -
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Edited by: Jacob Castillo on 17/11/2007 00:10:07
You do realize that the range reduction comes with a damage increase...right?
So its a boost. Not a nerf.
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DeadManCommingThew
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Posted - 2007.11.17 00:10:00 -
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Should use an alt for posting such threads
..thier nice and disposable
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sullahp
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Posted - 2007.11.17 00:27:00 -
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i've only heard about it by word of mouth, i'm not long back off my holidays tbh.
personally i'd far rather that they left them alone.
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sullahp
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Posted - 2007.11.17 00:31:00 -
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and who came up with this bright idea btw?
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ry ry
StateCorp
The State
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Posted - 2007.11.17 00:32:00 -
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Edited by: ry ry on 17/11/2007 00:33:54
nah, torps were crap.
RoF slooooooow, damage not spectacular, velocity glacial, range unimpressive. the buff is a good thing - at least they'll hurt a bit now.
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Gawain Hill
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Posted - 2007.11.17 00:37:00 -
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the caldri did by moaning they didn't have real short range big missiles..... you didni't think they'd get somethin new did you? the made torps short range and gave them more damage.
caldari don't like the torps now they do more damage because it means they can't do missions as fast
can't have your cake and eat it too :)
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
Enuma Elish.
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Posted - 2007.11.17 00:40:00 -
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This is not a nerf. ]
And ... don't whine about rumours? They get a RoF boost, in return for a range reduction.
This makes them EXCELLENT pvp weapons.
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Incantare
Caldari
Kernel of War
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.17 01:09:00 -
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 Originally by: Gawain Hill
the caldri did by moaning they didn't have real short range big missiles..... you didni't think they'd get somethin new did you? the made torps short range and gave them more damage.
caldari don't like the torps now they do more damage because it means they can't do missions as fast
can't have your cake and eat it too :)
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Or was it changed because the other races whined about the raven's pve abilities?
Anyway this is a good change.
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Admiral Pelleon
Caldari
White Shadow Imperium
Burning Horizons
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Posted - 2007.11.17 01:20:00 -
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This is a boost, stop whining.
Oh no! I have no range! OMG I MIGHT HAVE TO USE THE WEAPON DESIGNED FOR EACH RANGE!
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr
Uninvited Guests
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Posted - 2007.11.17 01:48:00 -
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Would be fun if ccp listened to the "dont nerf our torps" threads and dont change them. Would be funny.
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2007.11.17 01:57:00 -
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Originally by: Gawain Hill
can't have your cake and eat it too :)
Thing is, it's mostly different people who wanted different things. I'd be happy with one of the two, namely the previous system with PvE torps. Don't care at all if Raven can't match Gankathron for close range dps. I'll just use a Gankthron for that.
Torps were awesome, easily the best weapon for majority of missions, especially for one of two ship mission running team. Now they've been made mostly useless for that. Guess I can still use them after changes in a very limited number of missions with two painters.
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NoNah
Tenth Legion Holdings
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Posted - 2007.11.17 01:59:00 -
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Originally by: Lyria Skydancer
Would be fun if ccp listened to the "dont nerf our torps" threads and dont change them. Would be funny.
haha, Yes, please! I'd be laughing at every caldari thread for quite some time.
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2007.11.17 02:09:00 -
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Edited by: Qui Shon on 17/11/2007 02:11:21
Ummm, yes please indeed. I'd be laughing...all the way to the bank, or something.
I'd have to rub my eyes a few times if I saw a dev say that though :-)
Sadly I hear Sisi changes are final, but at least T1 didn't get more then 450 exp radius, afaik.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2007.11.17 03:01:00 -
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because running missions/ratting with cruise is the end of the world AHHHHHHHHHHHH
torp buff ftw!!!!!!
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr
Uninvited Guests
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Posted - 2007.11.17 03:18:00 -
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Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
because running missions/ratting with cruise is the end of the world AHHHHHHHHHHHH
torp buff ftw!!!!!!
Yeah these whiners should try doing missions with lasers. gg.
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OOOSOOO
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.11.17 04:18:00 -
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Originally by: sullahp
Edited by: sullahp on 17/11/2007 00:04:00
ok, i've only just realised how severe the nerf is going to be.
why? why? why? are the goal posts constantly being shifted...
surely the raven has had it's fair share of nerfs already...
in turn are they (ccp) going to raise the damage potential of torpedoes to bring them in line with blasters and make it a front line ship again??
I agree. I think its going to suck when i have to bring my raven out to PVP now. Its going to force me to hurl torps at a fast ROF and do nice DPS. Of course if I actually do want to hit at range I will have to make a quick switch to Javelin ammo. Wait. What?
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr
Uninvited Guests
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Posted - 2007.11.17 04:28:00 -
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Maybe they just not happy until they get their unnerfed rage torp ravens that were one-vollying 6xtarget painted battleships.
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Tarron Sarek
Gallente
Endica Enterprises
Alternative Realities
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Posted - 2007.11.17 06:41:00 -
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It's not a nerf.
Also, read sig.
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sullahp
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Posted - 2007.11.17 06:55:00 -
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as far as i can see it's a nerf, i only use the raven (the caldari navy variety btw) for missions as a source of income which i do very nicely from when we're not on the move or at war.
another thing, are they going to lower the rof to make them comparable to blasters/autocannons etc etc?
i use cruise for missions mostly anyway due to the speed and added range anyhow.
i'm not a whiner btw, i just don't see the point tbh.
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d026
THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS....
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.11.17 07:10:00 -
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Originally by: sullahp
as far as i can see it's a nerf,
you cant see very far cant you?
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sullahp
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Posted - 2007.11.17 07:31:00 -
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Originally by: d026
Originally by: sullahp
as far as i can see it's a nerf,
you cant see very far cant you?
20/20 vision i'll have you know.
it's gonna screw up mission runners big time and on the rare occasions that i do use a raven for pvp i hate being close in to a target.
the whole idea was unnessacary.
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Disco Flint
Caldari
Disco Corp.
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Posted - 2007.11.17 07:38:00 -
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Originally by: sullahp
Originally by: d026
Originally by: sullahp
as far as i can see it's a nerf,
you cant see very far cant you?
20/20 vision i'll have you know.
it's gonna screw up mission runners big time and on the rare occasions that i do use a raven for pvp i hate being close in to a target.
the whole idea was unnessacary.
You'll have more spare fitting to fit more tank or dmg mods with cruise, have the ability to pop all sizes of targets fast and at any range if you can lock them...
Ya, srsly, the sky is falling!!11
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr
Uninvited Guests
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Posted - 2007.11.17 07:41:00 -
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Edited by: Lyria Skydancer on 17/11/2007 07:41:50
Originally by: Disco Flint
Originally by: sullahp
Originally by: d026
Originally by: sullahp
as far as i can see it's a nerf,
you cant see very far cant you?
20/20 vision i'll have you know.
it's gonna screw up mission runners big time and on the rare occasions that i do use a raven for pvp i hate being close in to a target.
the whole idea was unnessacary.
You'll have more spare fitting to fit more tank or dmg mods with cruise, have the ability to pop all sizes of targets fast and at any range if you can lock them...
Ya, srsly, the sky is falling!!11
Many farmers not like farming that needs too many braincells at once methinks.
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Van'Klomp
The Three Hundred
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.11.17 09:01:00 -
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Originally by: sullahp
20/20 vision i'll have you know
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Cpt Cosmic
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Posted - 2007.11.17 09:28:00 -
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1 target painter and you do full damage to bs with it and doing as much dmg as a gankathron is a nerf?
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Tarron Sarek
Gallente
Endica Enterprises
Alternative Realities
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Posted - 2007.11.17 09:30:00 -
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Originally by: sullahp
it's gonna screw up mission runners big time
Why? Are Cruise Missiles not good enough? Try running mission with Blasters.
Originally by: sullahp
and on the rare occasions that i do use a raven for pvp i hate being close in to a target.
Actually a lot of PvP takes place at close range, and often the enemy simply IS close to you, whether you like it or not. 20+km is still a pretty long range for a high damage weapon, especially without tracking issues.
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.11.17 09:31:00 -
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1) It's a buff
2) ??
3) stfu!
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Juha85
Beasts of Burden
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.11.17 10:05:00 -
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I just killed a fully t2 fitted maelstrom on sisi with my t1 torp raven. Yes, its indeed a horrible nerf!
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Riho
Pastry Coalition
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Posted - 2007.11.17 10:24:00 -
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Originally by: sullahp
Edited by: sullahp on 17/11/2007 00:04:00
ok, i've only just realised how severe the nerf is going to be.
why? why? why? are the goal posts constantly being shifted...
surely the raven has had it's fair share of nerfs already...
in turn are they (ccp) going to raise the damage potential of torpedoes to bring them in line with blasters and make it a front line ship again??
lol.. nerf... its a mega boost
what i have tryd on test is insane :D
6x siege launchers + 3x bcu = PWN
i allready have a fit that im going to use in pvp.. and it involves a painter to get max dps out of that ship... sick.. im loveing it :D
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