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BlackHawk177
Pastry Coalition
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Posted - 2007.11.23 19:04:00 -
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 Originally by: Kayna Eelai
how many gun-freaks in here...
and when are u guys gonna do a "columbine II" then?
I can't speak for everyone else in this thread, but I am not a 'gun freak' as you put it. The main reason I own the firearms that I own are for work. I can't help that being a Sheriff's Deputy requires carrying a firearm b/c most of the people that break the law also carry one. The guns that aren't for work are for 2 purposes. One is hunting, the other is Target Shooting. One helps put food on my table during deer season. The other makes sure I'm gonna hit the mother****** that's trying to kill me when I have to return fire.
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Micheal Dietrich
Cynical Cartel
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Posted - 2007.11.23 19:52:00 -
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I'm a gun freak and I admit it. Not crazy though. I just find target shooting and the occasional Whistle pig raid fun.
Not to mention guns can be art too. Not that I have any artistic guns. I do have a few classics though.
I love it when I show up at a gun club and everyone brings .22's and hunting rifles then I pull out the AK and I've got a instant crowd. Pick up 1000 rounds for $300 and let everyone get a turn with a 30 round clip.
We let the kids fire it after we feel they've learned about gun safety which my club is very adament about. Kind of a bonus gun fun.
And good lord $14,000 for a gun?! I payed that much for my truck. I personally go on the fact that if it's over $500 I don't need it 
And I would love to get my hands on the breakdown diagrams of a P-90. That sideways mount clip boggles me and I don't have any books new enough to have the schematics.
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Grimpak
Gallente
Trinity Nova
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.23 21:00:00 -
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Edited by: Grimpak on 23/11/2007 21:01:59
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
And I would love to get my hands on the breakdown diagrams of a P-90. That sideways mount clip boggles me and I don't have any books new enough to have the schematics.
think it has to do with the fact that the feed area of the clip is rounded. maybe through a spring action of sorts the clip pushes the bullets to the gun, and they turn on that rounded area from sideways to a correct position, or smth like that.
edit: here's a closeup
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.11.23 23:13:00 -
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That 5.7mm round is the future of all SMGs... evil little things 
Originally by: ISD Valorem
The Devs have stated multiple times that they are looking at the Amarr issues.
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Sharupak
Minmatar
Knights Of the Black Sun
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.11.24 06:42:00 -
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I would drop the m16 and probably the AK-47 off of the list or very last and bump up the FIN FAL and M14 and add the B.A.R. in there. Then again, the M16 is sooooooo easy to shoot!
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.11.24 06:55:00 -
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The reason the M-14 was replaced with the 16 is that it and it's ammo is just way too heavy to be dragging around. And the whole recoil on full auto thing
Originally by: ISD Valorem
The Devs have stated multiple times that they are looking at the Amarr issues.
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BlackHawk177
Pastry Coalition
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Posted - 2007.11.24 10:39:00 -
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I'll take a M-14 over any other assault rifle tbh. I get a warm feeling knowing my 7.62mm is ripping a gaping hole in the enemy, instead of my ***** little 5.56mm going straight through barely doing anything. I know people who've been deployed to Iraq/Afghanistan numerous times, and they've all said the 5.56 is out-shadowed by the 7.62. And the only reason the M-14 was phased out is due to weight, the whole recoil argument doesn't stand b/c no squad based weapon is fired in full-auto unless laying down suppressive fire for troop movements.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.11.24 10:56:00 -
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We got a little guy in my platoon... the M16 looks too big for him. An M-14 would squish him 
Originally by: ISD Valorem
The Devs have stated multiple times that they are looking at the Amarr issues.
Weekly quote:
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Keorythe
Caldari
Terra Rosa Militia
Sev3rance
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Posted - 2007.11.25 13:29:00 -
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Originally by: BlackHawk177
The wonders of working for law enforcement... no firearms restrictions ^_^
Not true at all. Most law enforcement agencies in the US have restrictions on what kind of weapons can be carried even by their SWAT teams. Silencers, full auto, and extra large calibers (no desert eagles) are pretty much banned. Just recently a big article was posted about some city or state finally allowing their police to carry M-16 style weapons after a shoot out went bad. You'd think they would have learned from California's mistake already.
Of course the .308 is better than the 5.56mm. Its a bigger bullet. Its also heavier, can't be fired in bursts effectively (M-16 3 round burst is pretty accurate even standing with 5.56 ammo), and doesn't kill people any better in urban combat ranges (100-150m) than either the 5.56mm or 7.62x39 (AK round) despite what your favorite gun magazine editor wants to tell you. Actually at 100m or less the 5.56mm fragmentation characteristics make it more effective than a .308.
Both the P-90 and the BAR are weapons classed as "other than rifle". The P-90 is a submachinegun. The BAR is the US's first attempt at a Squad Automatic Weapon (SAW), weighed close to 30lbs, and was never intended to be accurate. Its rate of fire was adored, everything else was not.
I am a gun freak. I am one of those hyper accuracy nuts who likes to hit targets at 900yrds and thinks that 100 rounds in a day is "ALOT of shooting" as opposed to 10,000. Yes I grasp gun engineering or gunsmithing concepts and can rebore a barrel. No I wont rebore yours. No I dont make enough to be a dedicated benchtester 
The guns used in Colombine were pretty much stock junk with cheap fmj bullets. But then again when you've got a group of people that packed together a semi-sharp $20 highlander viking ninja sword from Walmart could do just as much damage or more. Keep politics out of this discussion which is about BEST RIFLES.
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Gungankllr
Caldari
Hadean Drive Yards
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Posted - 2007.11.25 16:33:00 -
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The thread was about the best "Battle Rifle" and yet people keep posting 20mm anti-tank rifles...
I think the best definition of a battle rifle is a weapon that is used by a frontline infantry soldier.
Anyhow, it's a hard question. Each rifle has its plusses and minuses, but I think for me it's a tie between the AK-47 and the M-16 variants.
Granted, I love the M-1, always have, but the 8 round capacity in the age of supressive fire then calling for ordnance isn't really best suited for the task.
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Kayna Eelai
Gallente
Shadow Legion Covenant
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.25 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
I love it when I show up at a gun club and everyone brings .22's and hunting rifles then I pull out the AK and I've got a instant crowd. Pick up 1000 rounds for $300 and let everyone get a turn with a 30 round clip.
this confirms that "gun freaks" just do it for the e-peen. and that they have too much cash to waste.
gogogo, thx to ppl. like u who buy guns and guns and guns, african countries will always have more guns than medicines, to just mention one example.
anyways, if some of this gun-freaks feels offended by what i just said: i could not care less. however i'll not look into this post anymore, as there's nothing more than disaproval i feel and think when i read all this crap from some gun freak tards.
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Ademaro Imre
Caldari
Eye of God
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Posted - 2007.11.25 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: Kayna Eelai
anyways, if some of this gun-freaks feels offended by what i just said: i could not care less. however i'll not look into this post anymore, as there's nothing more than disaproval i feel and think when i read all this crap from some gun freak tards.
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doingitwithskienze
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Posted - 2007.11.26 14:42:00 -
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Originally by: Gungankllr
The thread was about the best "Battle Rifle" and yet people keep posting 20mm anti-tank rifles...
I think the best definition of a battle rifle is a weapon that is used by a frontline infantry soldier.
Anyhow, it's a hard question. Each rifle has its plusses and minuses, but I think for me it's a tie between the AK-47 and the M-16 variants.
Granted, I love the M-1, always have, but the 8 round capacity in the age of supressive fire then calling for ordnance isn't really best suited for the task.
You roll your eyes because people include anti-material rifles in a battle rifle thread, then include the M-16 and AK47 families?
A battle rifle is one that uses full sized ammuntition. 7.62mmx39, 7.92mmx33 5.45mm and 5.56mm are 'intermediate' rounds, so the M-16/M4, AK47/74/103, StG44, FAMAS, L85/L86/L85k are assault rifles.
My top five Battle rifles:
1. FN FAL/L1a1 ("The right arm of the free world."
2. Short Magazine Lee-Enfield (S.M.L.E.)
3. Browning Automatic Rifle (B.A.R.)
4. Garand (United States Rifle, Caliber .30, M1)
And to round out my top 5....
5. The Mondragon repeting rifle (Fusil Porfirio Diaz Systema Mondrag=n Modelo 1908)
The mondragon was the first ever automatic rifle. those crazy mexicans!
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Keorythe
Caldari
Terra Rosa Militia
Sev3rance
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Posted - 2007.11.26 15:19:00 -
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The Enfield like the M14 is one of those rifles I scratch my head and wonder "why do people think it was so good"? Other than its extreme service life there are no features that make it better than other bolt actions of its time. It wasn't the most accurate nor the most used except by British colonial types. Heck its enlarged feed tray which allowed fast action of the bolt caused as many jams as automatic rifles today when people tried to fire it super fast. I still remember that Indiana Jones and the temple of doom part where the Indian calvary arrives and one guy rapid fires his Enfield. Then stovepipes the 4th shot and causes a really bad jam.
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