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The Herrick Gallente Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.11.20 23:59:00 - [31] Edited by: The Herrick on 20/11/2007 23:59:25 Originally by: kanojo1969 Well I for one agree with the OP in that all of this rubbish is just not Eve and makes no sense whatsoever. I can make a choice of career between being an industrialist and building up billions in assets, or....running some clothes shops? WTF???? Is a shirt going to cost millions of ISK? I can buy some new boots...or a megathron? IT MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL. Just because a lot of people (and I'm horrified at the number of people who say they are looking forward to this) seem to want to play the Sims in Space, does NOT make it a valid direction for the game to go. Everything I have heard about ambulation from CCP stinks of an idea that they are desperately trying to think of justification for. Multiple CEOs in a meeting room discussing battle plans over a shared map? Utterly pointless. It sounds OK, if you've never been a CEO or particpated in a battle. But in reality it adds nothing. People already have all those tools, out of game, and they work much better than they ever will in-game. Clothes shops? I can't believe this is a serious idea. People complaining about carrier nerfs and amarr ****ation will realise how trivial those issues are once this ambulation crap gets stuffed into the game. The key to being successful at anything is focus. CCP, for all their problems & faults, have been pretty solid so far wrt keeping the original vision of Eve intact. Not any more. The fact is, ambulation is a requirement for their next MMO, the whole White Wolf thing. Putting it in Eve is nothing more than practise for them. It's a shame they don't realise it will probably ruin the game. When I quit as a result of this crap, I will load everything I own into a freighter and self-destruct it outside Jita 4-4. Be there with a hauler. Boo hoo cry me a *** river if you don't like it then don't participate in it. You don't need to threaten to quit because at the end of the day who the hell cares? (Hint: no one) and yes I am looking for it I may even decide to upgrade my computer for it. Why? Because it's a nice change in pace so what if it's not exactly demigod like. As people have said not everyone does what is expected of them in their free time. For all the eve loyalists that are going to quit over this there will be twice as much that will probably join because of this. so really whatever you *** about won't change a thing so please spare us the sob story you don't like ambulation then don't use it but it's pretty clear that CCP aren't going to change things this late in the game no matter how many threads are made so why don't we drop the whole matter eh? Let's make another Jita whine instead and be happy.
Raem Civrie Sons of Enelaise Enelaise	Posted - 2007.11.21 00:04:00 - [32] I support Ambulation's shop ideas just for the idea of a set of clothes that could bankrupt a city. True Power Leather Pants? I say yes. ---- All roads lead to Catch
Vitrael Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.11.21 00:06:00 - [33] Originally by: Caiman Graystock Pod Pilots, the elite of EVE society, setting up fashion houses and running a bar? I assume at some point after ambulation, players might be able to start/change characters in EVE that aren't pod pilots, which would make these career paths fit a little better with the lore... or will they/should they? Because the ambulation ideas were the single worst breach of RP in the history of Eve.
Stephannus Calimben mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.11.21 00:12:00 - [34] i dunno, i think the idea of ambulation sounds cool. being able to walk my avatar around a station and play minigames or get my avatar drunk with some corpmates will be better than idly spining my ship around. Don't know about everyone else, but as a pirate i spend a fair bit of time sitting in station waiting for corpmates to get their **** together so we can go roam or camp a gate, itd be fun to have something to do in the mean time. Not to mention that this is something for all those graphic designers/modelers etc to do in between the odd new ship type. They're not the bottleneck, its the programmers/gametesters etc that are, so might as well give these guys something cool to do. Not to mention that its the #1 thing i get asked when i'm talking to people about the game "can you get out of your ship and walk around stations?" ______________ ...mmm fire... ______________
Adunh Slavy Ammatar Trade Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.21 02:30:00 - [35] Originally by: Stephannus Calimben Not to mention that its the #1 thing i get asked when i'm talking to people about the game "can you get out of your ship and walk around stations?" We have a winner! -AS The Real Space Initiative (Forum Link)
Haldor Gret Minmatar	Posted - 2007.11.21 02:54:00 - [36] For the people who don't like the idea of Ambulation. The Dev's have said that you don't have to use it the current interface will still be there. In Rust We Trust Duct Tape Forever
Claude Leon	Posted - 2007.11.21 02:57:00 - [37] Originally by: Aziz Hekato Edited by: Aziz Hekato on 20/11/2007 22:55:38 Originally by: Pwett What's wrong with more girls? What was the name of that pink Thorax again? "Captain! We have detected immaturity straight ahead! Anyway, I agree with the OP. CCP is trying to compete against WOW. That is like me trying to go up against Ronnie Coleman in a bench press contest. Wasted time and resources. The very notion alone is screaming "Second Life" with guns.
Qanael Radlari Caldari Kinetic Vector Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.11.21 04:00:00 - [38] Well, being nigh-immortal and all, you'd think pod pilots would get bored of trying to not-really-kill each other and do something else with their mountains of ISK? Aren't Gallente especially renowned for being capricious and whimsical? In short: it's for fun. Some pod pilots, being the demigods that they are, might not have such a serious outlook on life. And, as a previous poster said, it would be interesting to clothe yourself in garments that would break the budgets of cities/nations/planets. Also, Ambulation is entirely optional.
Peter VonThal Raygun Technologies	Posted - 2007.11.21 04:17:00 - [39] Originally by: Claude Leon The very notion alone is screaming "Second Life" with guns. Except for the fact it won't be anything like Second Life or have guns.
Daelorn State War Academy	Posted - 2007.11.21 04:21:00 - [40] Originally by: Pwett What's wrong with more girls? Unless, of course, you're a fan of the sausage. If I want women, I Ctrl+Q, stand up, and go to that place called outside, plenty of women out there.
Reiisha Splint Eye Probabilities Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.21 04:38:00 - [41] These 'demigods' are still human, and have other needs than sit in a pod of goo all day long. It keeps them grounded in the world they live in, mostly by simple choice - Minmatar freedom fighters are fighting for their people, even if they are deemed 'demigods', and Amarrian slavers still serve their emperor and their empire, and not only themselves. Same with a lot of other backgrounds. EVE History Wiki
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.11.21 04:43:00 - [42] Edited by: Crumplecorn on 21/11/2007 04:43:04 Originally by: Haldor Gret For the people who don't like the idea of Ambulation. The Dev's have said that you don't have to use it the current interface will still be there. Not good enough. If some people don't want something in EVE, it must not be added at all, for its mere presence is an affront to their ego-centric point of view. I also happen to dislike the idea of pod pilots running shops and such in theory, but having watched everything CCP have made available on the project, I will give them the benefit of the doubt, because they seem to be all about adding immersion and staying true to the backstory. Anyway, at least people who own shops will be self-employed. Some people currently work for NPCs. Demigods working for mere mortals? Right. - I wish I was a three foot female doll with a watering can and heterochromatic eyes.
Idaeus Gallente Earned In Blood Black Sun Cartel	Posted - 2007.11.21 04:50:00 - [43] I, for one, welcome our new Barbie overlords. IOI - Earned In Blood
cal nereus Perkone	Posted - 2007.11.21 06:17:00 - [44] I hear there's a demigod who designs and gives toys to children all over the world. --- Join BH-DL Skills
Joss Sparq Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.11.21 06:25:00 - [45] Originally by: Caiman Graystock Pod Pilots, the elite of EVE society, setting up fashion houses and running a bar? It'll be FABULOUS, darling! Originally by: Synapse Archae and clothes so expensive that a normal person could save their entire lives and not be able to buy a pair of these pants. That puts it in perspective for you. I for one am greatly anticipating the introduction of tech II sequins and their resulting interaction with the pink spandex market. Chips of plutonium are twinkling in every lung
Moghydin Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation	Posted - 2007.11.21 07:22:00 - [46] Ambulation is a step in the new direction for CCP. But it'll be an eye candy, nothing more. A way to spend your time when you're docked. It's rather possible that CCP wants to attract more customers, but tbh, ppl who ditch the though of trying Eve because it doesn't have avatars roaming around in funky clothes won't be a valuable addition to the community. I tried Guild Wars for some time and all those perma-dancing avatars are pathetic. I don't want those 133t talking kew1 kidd0s in Eve. I hope ambulation won't bring an avalanche of sci-fi fans with WoW mentality into Eve. Press alt+F4 to reduce lag
Helen Hunts Gallente Red Dragon Mining inc	Posted - 2007.11.21 07:37:00 - [47] Sitting in station all day because there's about 15 guys waiting outside for you? No problem, just go visit the casino, get plastered, and take in a show. (in any order you choose) Meanwhile, the campers sit outside, bored to tears, but unwilling to dock because you might come out to be ganked. Ambulation: It's how to really irritate someone while having a good time yourself. _______________________________ Mine da rocks, make more ships. Pop da rats, make more rigs. Sell da gear, make more money. Any Questions?
Stitcher Caldari legion of qui Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2007.11.21 07:45:00 - [48] Originally by: Qalten Who wouldn't want a Chribba waffle-maker? Heee! "I'm so proud of it, I put my name on it!" - The game is not the problem. The problem is that you are not adapting to the game.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.11.21 08:04:00 - [49] Originally by: kanojo1969 Well I for one agree with the OP in that all of this rubbish is just not Eve and makes no sense whatsoever. I can make a choice of career between being an industrialist and building up billions in assets, or....running some clothes shops? WTF???? Is a shirt going to cost millions of ISK? I can buy some new boots...or a megathron? IT MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL. Just because a lot of people (and I'm horrified at the number of people who say they are looking forward to this) seem to want to play the Sims in Space, does NOT make it a valid direction for the game to go. Everything I have heard about ambulation from CCP stinks of an idea that they are desperately trying to think of justification for. Multiple CEOs in a meeting room discussing battle plans over a shared map? Utterly pointless. It sounds OK, if you've never been a CEO or particpated in a battle. But in reality it adds nothing. People already have all those tools, out of game, and they work much better than they ever will in-game. Clothes shops? I can't believe this is a serious idea. People complaining about carrier nerfs and amarr ******ation will realise how trivial those issues are once this ambulation crap gets stuffed into the game. The key to being successful at anything is focus. CCP, for all their problems & faults, have been pretty solid so far wrt keeping the original vision of Eve intact. Not any more. The fact is, ambulation is a requirement for their next MMO, the whole White Wolf thing. Putting it in Eve is nothing more than practise for them. It's a shame they don't realise it will probably ruin the game. When I quit as a result of this crap, I will load everything I own into a freighter and self-destruct it outside Jita 4-4. Be there with a hauler. there is a dev blog or a dev thread from over 3 years ago talking about how that in the orginal vision of eve there would be walkig everywhere possible and planatry combat and mining asteroids on foot. your a troll. and a bad one. don't talk about something you know nothing about. the work they doing for ambulation might have the same engine as the new mmorpg, but that pat is done, the whole thing is built for eve. none of what id going into ambulation will be used in the other mmorpg. it's two seperate teams for crying out loud. I can't wait untill people like you leave. Official fanboy of jenny< pink supporter! looking to work in the art department with CCP, 3 years and counting. http://www.digipen.edu/main/Gallery_Games_2004#Narbacular_Dropthi
Cadela Fria Amarr Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.11.21 08:08:00 - [50] Demigods need beers too! And why not enjoy a beer in style by wearing fancy clothing. I say its a win win situation. Only demigods know proper clothing style!
warpto sun	Posted - 2007.11.21 08:15:00 - [51] Ambulation is strictly Alpha/Beta testing for W.O.D. If you think it is anything else I do believe you are mistaken. Do I care about that? Nope not an iota. Do I think there should be dancing? Only if Concord responds like they do is space
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.11.21 08:26:00 - [52] Originally by: warpto sun Ambulation is strictly Alpha/Beta testing for W.O.D. Yes. That's why they're putting so much effort into the EVE-specific environment and character design. Because that makes sense. - I wish I was a three foot female doll with a watering can and heterochromatic eyes.
Niccolado Starwalker Shadow Templars	Posted - 2007.11.21 08:40:00 - [53] Originally by: Caiman Graystock Pod Pilots, the elite of EVE society, setting up fashion houses and running a bar? I assume at some point after ambulation, players might be able to start/change characters in EVE that aren't pod pilots, which would make these career paths fit a little better with the lore... or will they/should they? Its easy. Wines are the nectars of the gods, but since we are merely demigods we just have to settle with beer. And theres is nothing more honourable then serving your fellow demi deities their nectars of life. Sarah McTeef: You all should really try and stay on topic. Which when I last checked, was my grocery list
Snowcrash Winterheart2 Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.11.21 11:59:00 - [54] To be honest the idea of shops just seems like a different interface to the existing market system; the more you trade and skill the more sell/buy orders your running and thus the bigger your metaphorical shop would be. All this does is give a representation of that. It also brings with it real world ideas of brand loyalty "I'll go to X brand shop because they always have Y in stock" comes in to play and thus... the immortal demi-gods empire expands. And yeah, I won't be waiting tables or sat over the EVE equivalent of a sewing machine; that's what the little people (NPC's) are for isn't it? ----- Four paws... four sets of claws.
Ash Solar	Posted - 2007.11.21 12:33:00 - [55] a demigod needs to dress his followers some how, and plain white robes are just so cliche.
Ryoji Tanakama Caldari Daikoku Fleet Shipyards	Posted - 2007.11.21 12:51:00 - [56] You ever play/read about the RPG Aberrant? Novas are folks with superhero powers, just like in a Marvel comic, but dumped in a more realistic world. They use their abilities to become megastars and live lives of absolute luxury. Why shouldn't pod pilots reap the rewards of their immortality and celebrity, and do it in a pod-pilot designed dress made from eyelashes of 12 extinct species of koala, woven together by a thousand beautiful gallente virgins? ~Ryoji Tanakama Daikoku Fleet Shipyards
Kavol Valarius Amarr Unity of Honor Legion of Honor	Posted - 2007.11.21 13:03:00 - [57] Two words: "Designer goods" -----
Cipher7 VersaTech Interstellar Ltd. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.21 13:08:00 - [58] Dev 1 : What can we do to attract more women? Dev 2 : Why don't we just develop some useless social crap? They can serve each other drinks and give each other backrubs while discussing their shoe shopping experience. Kinda like The Sims in space. Dev 1 : Hey I think you're on to something.
Edania Caldari BlackSky inc. Edge Of Sanity	Posted - 2007.11.21 13:24:00 - [59] ive always thought of ambulation to be an inherently bad idea, more just tech demonstrations for the world of darkness MMO than somthing usefull to eve. like putting a steak and kidney pie in a quarter of a cheesefeast pizza to demonstrate you can do pie, but dont want to cost for pie development seperate to pizza production. Quote: my Clone was excelent, i just had too many skillpoints
Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2007.11.21 13:31:00 - [60] Wouldn't you go to a bar downtown new york if you knew it was run by a demigod? My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.

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