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Tolas Aerthyrian Sovereignty	Posted - 2007.11.22 16:23:00 - [1] Edited by: Tolas on 22/11/2007 16:24:09 Browsing these forums I see way too many thread asking the same things over and over. So here it is, an attempt to answer them and reduce the number of times people start new threads to ask the same exact thing. TRINITY FAQ 1) What is Trinity? Trinity is the next patch scheduled to be released this winter that will add more game content and an upgraded client with improved performance and graphics. Full details on the patch can be found at the Official Trinity Website 2) When will Trinity be launched? There is no official launch date for Trinity. CCP has said "This Winter" or "SoonÖ" 3) Do I need to upgrade my pc or video card? No, but if you want to play the game with the updated graphics models and your current video card does not support Shader Model 3, then you would need to upgrade to one that does have that support. Again it is NOT necessary to upgrade hardware to continue to play EVE. If you have a DX8 card you DO need to upgrade your version of DirectX to 9.0c in order to play after Trinity, but your DX8 card will still work. 4) What are the requirements for Trinity? Trinity requires you to have a video card that Supports DirectX 9.0c and Shader Model 3.0 *5) Will my insert card here* work with the new Trinity models? The easiest way to check this is to use the TOOL provided by CCP to check your video card for support. You can also read Bombcrater's Guide To SM3 Part 1 - Do I Have It?, since he was good enough to provide some very good info on the subject, or check your card manufacturer's site for detailed specs on your card. 6) I heard we need DX10 to run EVE when Trinity comes out, is that True? Absolutely not. It uses DirectX 9.0c. The Devs have mentioned working on a DirectX 10 version of the client but that is NOT being released with Trinity. DirectX 10 is Vista only and you do NOT need Either to play EVE now or when Trinity launches. 7) What is the deal with all these version of the client people are talking about? What CCP has said is, there will be 2 Versions of the client: DirectX 9.0c NO shader model 3 which will be the current client with all the new content using the SAME MODELS that you see now DirectX 9.0c WITH shader model 3 support which will be the client with all the new game content using the NEW models, shading and lighting Originally by:** CCP 2kay There will be two editions of the EVE client now, Trinity Classic with the old content, a more compact download which everyone will be able to run and Trinity, the upgraded client with the new content that utilizes the new graphics engine to its full potential. The latter will be a much larger download, so we will start by patching your existing Revelations II client to Trinity Classic. This will allow you to start playing immediately after we launch Trinity. After the Trinity Classic patch has been downloaded, the client will check your system to see if it supports the requirements to use the new content and if so we will offer to start the download in the background. Again, this will allow you to start playing immediately after Trinity's deployment and not have to wait for the new content to complete downloading. Finally, this will not force users who do not have systems that do not meet the requirements to download unneeded files. Read more about the Patch & Download process Feel free to correct anything that I may have gotten wrong or add anything I missed. Mods/CCP please Sticky this if you feel it merits it :)
Tolas Aerthyrian Sovereignty	Posted - 2007.11.22 16:24:00 - [2] Edited by: Tolas on 22/11/2007 16:35:52 8) I am on Singularity, where is all the new stuff? While the new graphics engine is on Singularity, it DOES NOT INCLUDE the new graphics, models etc. Its also on a new mirror. New ships / scripts are not currently seeded. Also, PLEASE for the love of whatever you hold dear, USE FORUM SEARCH FUNCTION before you go asking what other have already asked.
Cailais Amarr W A R	Posted - 2007.11.22 16:27:00 - [3] Worth pointing out here that while the new graphics engine is on Singularity, it DOES NOT INCLUDE the new graphics, models etc. Its also on a new mirror. New ships / scripts are not currently seeded. C. Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Dehumanisation - griefers are cool and if you are not a griefer, you do not belong here.
Tolas Aerthyrian Sovereignty	Posted - 2007.11.22 16:33:00 - [4] thanks Cailais, good point!
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.11.22 16:36:00 - [5] We need some kind of forum points to recognize awesomeness. Tolas receives +100 EVE-Gold. - I wish I was a three foot female doll with a watering can and heterochromatic eyes.
Tolas Aerthyrian Sovereignty	Posted - 2007.11.22 16:57:00 - [6] blush Thanks, lets just hope it helps some folks be a little less confused about the whole situation. ------------------------------------------------------- "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
Dave White Beagle Corp	Posted - 2007.11.22 17:46:00 - [7] Edited by: Dave White on 22/11/2007 17:46:49 Originally by: GM Tacgnol Oveur descended from the heavens (also known as the second floor) and beat us all with his nerfbat.
PhamNuwen Caldari Bungee Jumper	Posted - 2007.11.22 18:07:00 - [8] Edited by: PhamNuwen on 22/11/2007 18:07:57 Originally by: Tolas : 7) What is the deal with all these version of the client people are talking about? What CCP has said is, there will be 2 Versions of the client: DirectX 9.0c NO shader model 3 which will be the current client with all the new content using the SAME MODELS that you see now DirectX 9.0c WITH shader model 3 support which will be the client with all the new game content using the NEW models, shading and lighting DirectX 8.0 running on SiSi (22.11.2007; http://myeve.eve-online.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=1661&tid=1) __ ...oh no, not another version.... ---
Peter VonThal Raygun Technologies	Posted - 2007.11.22 18:16:00 - [9] On 7)... Originally by: CCP Explorer ...when the EVE Online: Trinity expansion() is released you will be able to use the DX8* rendering path in the new graphics engine with the current models/textures... http://www.eve-search.com/thread/613733/page/1#20
Tolas Aerthyrian Sovereignty	Posted - 2007.11.24 00:40:00 - [10] Originally by: Peter VonThal On 7)... Originally by: CCP Explorer ...when the EVE Online: Trinity expansion() is released you will be able to use the DX8* rendering path in the new graphics engine with the current models/textures... http://www.eve-search.com/thread/613733/page/1#20 Updated, and thanks for the correction ___________________________________________________ "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."

Kodiak31415 An Eye For An Eye Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.11.24 01:13:00 - [11] Originally by: Cailais New ships / scripts are not currently seeded. They are now seeded, at least in FD-MLJ. May also be worth pointing out that although there is an option to download "new graphic content" on the Singularity log in screen and in the singularity options menu this feature is currently disabled and does nothing. Nice job by the OP, maybe next time I'll use the search function to find this sort of thing before drunk failposting. _______________________________ Pleese exucse any seplling erorr's in tihs psot
Daelorn State War Academy	Posted - 2007.11.24 01:18:00 - [12] Originally by: Kodiak31415 May also be worth pointing out that although there is an option to download "new graphic content" on the Singularity log in screen and in the singularity options menu this feature is currently disabled and does nothing. Wonder how many people spent time bashing the button yelling "WOOORRKK YOUUUUUU!!"
Tilion Aleks	Posted - 2007.11.24 06:13:00 - [13] Originally by: Cailais New ships / scripts are not currently seeded. C. You are wrong sir. All the new stuffs(scrips, all t2 ships) are seeded in the FD-MLJ system. You can get there moved by devs, all u have to do is to join the channel "moveme" in game and wait to get moved, or if there is no dev online u can simply fly there. And here is my fav ship, the PINK Apoc! :D Paladin
Gibmundur Amarr Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.11.25 16:40:00 - [14] So no ideas when trinity will come. In december? after christmass? Please do not use your signature graphic to troll - Kreul Intentions
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.11.25 16:47:00 - [15] Dev comments limit it to before next march. - I wish I was a three foot female doll with a watering can and heterochromatic eyes.

CCP Atropos	Posted - 2007.11.25 17:03:00 - [16] Endorsing this thread with gold bars

Tortun Nahme Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.11.25 17:15:00 - [17] moar bullion! Originally by: Cecil Montague They should change that warning on entering low sec to: "Go read Crime and Punishment for a few days then come back."
Firkragg Blue Labs Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.11.25 17:18:00 - [18] Originally by: CCP Atropos Endorsing this thread with gold bars I hate devs who do this in trinity threads. They just do it to get our hopes up

CCP Atropos	Posted - 2007.11.25 17:41:00 - [19] Well I could tell you. But then I'd have to kill you... This thread is a good resource for all those oft asked questions about Trinity, and having the gold bars simply entices people in here more.

Solomunio Kzenig Amarr Ordo Ministorum MERCURY RISING.	Posted - 2007.11.25 18:02:00 - [20] ^^True One Empire, One Emperor, One People, Forever under Heaven. Amarr Aeternus.

Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2007.11.25 18:25:00 - [21] Originally by: CCP Atropos Well I could tell you. But then I'd have to kill you... This thread is a good resource for all those oft asked questions about Trinity, and having the gold bars simply entices people in here more. So is it going to be stickied?
Jason Marshall Hammer Of Light	Posted - 2007.11.25 19:31:00 - [22] Originally by: CCP Atropos Well I could tell you. But then I'd have to kill you... This thread is a good resource for all those oft asked questions about Trinity, and having the gold bars simply entices people in here more. YOUR A TEASE! there i said it... HARLOT T_T Tacky Lensflares in sigs ftw
Reiisha Splint Eye Probabilities Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.25 23:00:00 - [23] Maybe you should also add another point. I'm hearing a lot of people saying that they have old pc's, and can't access the new ships etc 'because their PC can't handle the new client'. Might be a good idea to add that you can access all new content with the old client aswell, and that it's not exclusive to people using the new graphics. EVE History Wiki
Tolas Aerthyrian Sovereignty	Posted - 2007.11.25 23:52:00 - [24] Originally by: Reiisha Maybe you should also add another point. I'm hearing a lot of people saying that they have old pc's, and can't access the new ships etc 'because their PC can't handle the new client'. Might be a good idea to add that you can access all new content with the old client aswell, and that it's not exclusive to people using the new graphics. done :) ___________________________________________________ "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
Sinistro	Posted - 2007.11.26 08:19:00 - [25] Originally by: Tolas 2) When will Trinity be launched? There is no official launch date for Trinity. CCP has said "This Winter" or "SoonÖ" [b] I hope VERY soon and that it will fix this constant crashing runtime error as wel, because this way there is no way to play eve and if Trinity takes still some weeks to come out that I hope for a fix patch on this constant crashing. I hope you guys dont mind mentioning this runtime error crashing here because we dont get any response on the treads about this any that ccp is working on it a week ago.
Jamie Hara Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.26 14:59:00 - [26] Will you update the sound engine for Trinity? What kind of surround sound will Trinity support? Will you update any sound assets for Trinity? (The warp sound, gun sounds, etc.)
gordon861 Minmatar Head Insurance Services	Posted - 2007.11.26 15:31:00 - [27] As we have a dev responding in here perhaps they can answer this : Will we be able to run the old client and the new enhanced client on the same PC at the same time ? A lot of people use their second account to haul/support their main account either on a second screen or in a window behind the main client so it would be a waste to use the enhanced graphics on the second client. Would be much better to use all your PCs gfx power on the main screen/client only. Originally by: CCP Arkanon I frown on employees being power players to the extent that their gameplay results in any sort of domination over others. I donÆt believe CCP employees should run the EVE universe.
iNFyza Gallente The Kanunu Mining Corp	Posted - 2007.11.26 16:02:00 - [28] I have a Radion X800, it supports DX9.0c, but it only supports up to Shader 2.0. Can I not run Trinity at all? Or can I still run it, but just not use the features that Shader v3 offer? My specs: Intel Core2duo E420 Radion X800 2Gigs of DDR2 Thanks :)
Haurian Zealot	Posted - 2007.11.26 17:30:00 - [29] Edited by: Haurian Zealot on 26/11/2007 17:30:36 Originally by: iNFyza I have a Radion X800, it supports DX9.0c, but it only supports up to Shader 2.0. Can I not run Trinity at all? Or can I still run it, but just not use the features that Shader v3 offer? My specs: Intel Core2duo E420 Radion X800 2Gigs of DDR2 Thanks :) 1. please read the FAQ before posting dumb questions. in answer... Originally by: "Tolas" DirectX 8 which will be the current client with all the new content using the SAME MODELS that you see now DirectX 9.0c WITH shader model 3 support which will be the client with all the new game content using the NEW models, shading and lighting remember, DirectX 8 games work with DirectX 9.0c. It's called something called backwards compatability. so you will obviously still be able to play if you can play now (and i assume you can :p)
iNFyza Gallente The Kanunu Mining Corp	Posted - 2007.11.26 20:17:00 - [30] Ok, so I will be able to see the new models and new fancy graphics, but I will only be able to use the shading quality that Shader version 2 offers me? The reason im concerned is due to me buying the latest Colin M rally game, it requires shader Version 3. I cant even start that game before it getting an error stating "Your card does not support Shader 3."



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