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PlatinumMercSEAL
Screaming War Eagles Incorporated
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Posted - 2012.01.31 14:27:00 -
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The Screaming War Eagle Association is looking to create a market logistics corporation. We want a corporation to do everything on the market including, but not limited to, regional trading, hauling, and trading shares. I an looking for investors to invest to get a starting wallet to use to make ISK with. This type of corporation requires ISK to make more ISK. I am about half way to my goal with private investors, but it isn't enough. I am looking for public investors. Each share is going for one million ISK. There are currently 360 shares left. I will be doing a split soon if that seems to much to public investors. In a split investors will receive shares to their percentages, so no investors looses vote power or ISK value.
I am open for questions. President of the Screaming War Eagle Association
Doing business is my game. |

premalatofalts
STICKS ARE THE BEST MEDICINE
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Posted - 2012.01.31 14:37:00 -
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Ok...so you want me to give you my isk with absolutely no garauntees, references or any type of colateral just in case this is a scam? ROFL m8...if this works, let me know cos then I will start using this scam. |

PlatinumMercSEAL
Screaming War Eagles Incorporated
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Posted - 2012.01.31 14:42:00 -
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I will give references this evening. Like I said, "I am open for questions." Start with a person named Jaqa. He is somewhere to start. I got to go to my next class in 2 minutes. When I get home I will post a list of references. Your collateral will be the shares. My guarantee is you can sell them back at anytime for the share value. I will pay out every week of 40% of corporate profit. President of the Screaming War Eagle Association
Doing business is my game. |

premalatofalts
STICKS ARE THE BEST MEDICINE
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Posted - 2012.01.31 14:50:00 -
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"Shares". If this is a scam corp, shares have absolutely no value whatsoever. Listing names of people who no one knows...then having "them" type nicy stuff on a forum is not references. If you got Chribba to say you are ok, I would take every last share you have. But before you get someone with a real reputation for honesty and integrity and above all good bussiness sense backing you, you dont get a single isk from me. |

Ruvin
Glorious Revolution The 99 Percent
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Posted - 2012.01.31 16:04:00 -
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Hello . I guess ill ask a question , so you want to make market/trade corp and you need isk for this . you have 360shares/1000 you wana sell , for 360 m . So how much you got already 700 milions ? What is youre goal , how much did private investors invested ?
GÇó We have pilots willing to teach you the basics of Pew without disparaging comments or constant posturing GÇó Laid back and fun environment GÇó A couple of organized classes per month on various pvp mechanics GÇó We focus on missions and pew. ThatGÇÖs it. GÇó We have access to Gallente militia comms thus allowing for bigger fights
how does this fit youre market/trading corp ? How much of that money did you invested ?
And you seem to be confused about what you really want . MArketing trading hauling and the one you advertise is 2 different things . What happened with the other eagles screaming corp ?
Quote: Got an idea for a corporation and want to try it, come to me. I will tell you whether it can be done or not. If it can, I might invest. Please do not waste my time with scams.
I do give out loans.
So youre able to invest in stuff , you shouldnt be having problem investing in youreself no ? |

PlatinumMercSEAL
Screaming War Eagles Incorporated
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Posted - 2012.01.31 17:43:00 -
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Ruvin wrote:Hello . I guess ill ask a question , so you want to make market/trade corp and you need isk for this . you have 360shares/1000 you wana sell , for 360 m . So how much you got already 700 milions ? What is youre goal , how much did private investors invested ? GÇó We have pilots willing to teach you the basics of Pew without disparaging comments or constant posturing GÇó Laid back and fun environment GÇó A couple of organized classes per month on various pvp mechanics GÇó We focus on missions and pew. ThatGÇÖs it. GÇó We have access to Gallente militia comms thus allowing for bigger fights how does this fit youre market/trading corp ? How much of that money did you invested ? And you seem to be confused about what you really want . MArketing trading hauling and the one you advertise is 2 different things . What happened with the other eagles screaming corp ? Quote: Got an idea for a corporation and want to try it, come to me. I will tell you whether it can be done or not. If it can, I might invest. Please do not waste my time with scams.
I do give out loans.
So youre able to invest in stuff , you shouldnt be having problem investing in youreself no ?
I have invested myself. I have invested 500+ million ISK and 100+ million ISK in private investors, totaling at 640 million ISK. Those past corporations were failure in creating a defense corporation for various reasons. Second time getting investors, but first to go for public investors. The corporation I am in now is being handed to a new CEO. If you want well known references, I do not have any then. I got to start somewhere in the public eye. My bio is what I do in spare time.
I just know that I am ready to go public. President of the Screaming War Eagle Association
Doing business is my game. |

Ariana DeSoto
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.31 17:52:00 -
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I enquire inserting up pledge 20B. Throbbing ISK wallet when?
You pleasing to thank me, Ariana |

PlatinumMercSEAL
Screaming War Eagles Incorporated
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Posted - 2012.01.31 18:01:00 -
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Ariana DeSoto wrote:I enquire inserting up pledge 20B. Throbbing ISK wallet when?
You pleasing to thank me, Ariana
I assume I set my share value according to law of demand, but since I ready sold the other shares at 1 million, I can only take 360 million ISK. I will convoe you when I get home. Thanks for you generous offer. President of the Screaming War Eagle Association
Doing business is my game. |

Revan Slahka
0n3 World Industries Crucial.
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Posted - 2012.01.31 18:49:00 -
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so you sold shares to the private for 1 mill. exactly how many shares do the private investors hold and how many do you and the corp hold. there are 650 shares laying around and to me i feel there are is something off here. |

PlatinumMercSEAL
Screaming War Eagles Incorporated
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Posted - 2012.01.31 20:15:00 -
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Revan Slahka wrote:so you sold shares to the private for 1 mill. exactly how many shares do the private investors hold and how many do you and the corp hold. there are 650 shares laying around and to me i feel there are is something off here.
4 private shareholders and 640 shares sold. President of the Screaming War Eagle Association
Doing business is my game. |

Revan Slahka
0n3 World Industries Crucial.
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Posted - 2012.01.31 20:40:00 -
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so you sold 650 shares for dirt cheap to the private investors and you expect the public to spend 1 mill per share. doesnt seem like a good way to get start up isk imo. a 10% discount to private share holders is one thing even for corpmates, but what your doing is counter productive. not gonna lable you off as scammer just yet, but im suspicious. |

OllieNorth
Recidivists Incorporated
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Posted - 2012.01.31 21:45:00 -
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Watching PVPers wander into MD is at least as entertaining as watching a nublet trader take a courier contract into deep Goon nullsec.
/popcorn |

Ruvin
Glorious Revolution The 99 Percent
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Posted - 2012.01.31 22:14:00 -
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i dont think his a scammer .... I think he has great objectives in front of him , and want to achieve much stuff . But much of it is out of his reach , like a corp , or the corps he tryed to make . So he just tryed on every front he can , but he has little clue about corp i think , hope now he got better . And tryed to make already something else , with very little clue about it ....
The stuff youre trying to create or run needs some knowledge , some skills , and not the ingame skills but real skills , time , more knowledge , and so on ... Imo its out of youre reach so far .
My advice , get the money you already have . Keep youre corp runing and do youre best in that direction and i mean like everything a good corp is more important then youreself . Then take the money , go and start trading , and i mean trading actually with everything else it involves (tho dont forget about youre corp) When you get the hang of trading you should be able to have plenty of isk by youreself , then try hauling or anything else you have in mind . That takes plenty of time and practice , when you got something REAL going on you can ask for more isk sell share or such stuff ...
Thats my 2 cents , rlly wont troll cos i dont think youre a scammer , but i am sure you have little clue tho :P |

Gatan Hahran
Brukterer DUCT TAPE UNION
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Posted - 2012.01.31 22:28:00 -
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PlatinumMercSEAL wrote: I am open for questions.
That is cool and everything, but if you come to MD and want people to trust you with their money you should provide as much information about yourself and your business as you can, unasked.
PlatinumMercSEAL wrote: We want a corporation to do everything on the market including, but not limited to, regional trading, hauling, and trading shares.
Thats not enough to be seen as a "business plan". You really need to go into more detail. Show potential investors that you know what you are talking about and not just a random sunglass guy looking for quick ISK. |

Ruvin
Glorious Revolution The 99 Percent
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Posted - 2012.01.31 22:45:00 -
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Gatan do you have anyhing against sunglasses ? |

PlatinumMercSEAL
Screaming War Eagles Incorporated
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Posted - 2012.01.31 22:58:00 -
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Revan Slahka wrote:so you sold 650 shares for dirt cheap to the private investors and you expect the public to spend 1 mill per share. doesnt seem like a good way to get start up isk imo. a 10% discount to private share holders is one thing even for corpmates, but what your doing is counter productive. not gonna lable you off as scammer just yet, but im suspicious.
I sold the shares to private investors at one million a share as well. President of the Screaming War Eagle Association
Doing business is my game. |

PlatinumMercSEAL
Screaming War Eagles Incorporated
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Posted - 2012.01.31 23:00:00 -
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Ruvin wrote:i dont think his a scammer .... I think he has great objectives in front of him , and want to achieve much stuff . But much of it is out of his reach , like a corp , or the corps he tryed to make . So he just tryed on every front he can , but he has little clue about corp i think , hope now he got better . And tryed to make already something else , with very little clue about it ....
The stuff youre trying to create or run needs some knowledge , some skills , and not the ingame skills but real skills , time , more knowledge , and so on ... Imo its out of youre reach so far .
My advice , get the money you already have . Keep youre corp runing and do youre best in that direction and i mean like everything a good corp is more important then youreself . Then take the money , go and start trading , and i mean trading actually with everything else it involves (tho dont forget about youre corp) When you get the hang of trading you should be able to have plenty of isk by youreself , then try hauling or anything else you have in mind . That takes plenty of time and practice , when you got something REAL going on you can ask for more isk sell share or such stuff ...
Thats my 2 cents , rlly wont troll cos i dont think youre a scammer , but i am sure you have little clue tho :P
Thanks. President of the Screaming War Eagle Association
Doing business is my game. |

PlatinumMercSEAL
Screaming War Eagles Incorporated
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Posted - 2012.01.31 23:03:00 -
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Gatan Hahran wrote:PlatinumMercSEAL wrote: I am open for questions.
That is cool and everything, but if you come to MD and want people to trust you with their money you should provide as much information about yourself and your business as you can, unasked. PlatinumMercSEAL wrote: We want a corporation to do everything on the market including, but not limited to, regional trading, hauling, and trading shares.
Thats not enough to be seen as a "business plan". You really need to go into more detail. Show potential investors that you know what you are talking about and not just a random sunglass guy looking for quick ISK.
I do have a plan. I got 3 haulers are ready recruited to join me in hauling stuff from the low priced Dodixie to a undisclosed market hub that will turn profits. It is a major hub that is not in high security space. We got a plan to run this cargo at almost 100k per drone in profit, not income. How is that for a plan? President of the Screaming War Eagle Association
Doing business is my game. |

KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.01.31 23:37:00 -
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PlatinumMercSEAL wrote:Gatan Hahran wrote:PlatinumMercSEAL wrote: I am open for questions.
That is cool and everything, but if you come to MD and want people to trust you with their money you should provide as much information about yourself and your business as you can, unasked. PlatinumMercSEAL wrote: We want a corporation to do everything on the market including, but not limited to, regional trading, hauling, and trading shares.
Thats not enough to be seen as a "business plan". You really need to go into more detail. Show potential investors that you know what you are talking about and not just a random sunglass guy looking for quick ISK. I do have a plan. I got 3 haulers are ready recruited to join me in hauling stuff from the low priced Dodixie to a undisclosed market hub that will turn profits. It is a major hub that is not in high security space. We got a plan to run this cargo at almost 100k per drone in profit, not income. How is that for a plan? Incomplete but a good start.
If all you're doing is selling drones in losec, I question your ability to turn around enough to make this sustainable. Why can't you start with the money already invested? http://i.imgur.com/cOmMP.gif |

Gatan Hahran
Brukterer DUCT TAPE UNION
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Posted - 2012.01.31 23:39:00 -
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PlatinumMercSEAL wrote: I do have a plan. I got 3 haulers are ready recruited to join me in hauling stuff from the low priced Dodixie to a undisclosed market hub that will turn profits. It is a major hub that is not in high security space. We got a plan to run this cargo at almost 100k per drone in profit, not income. How is that for a plan?
Must..............resist........arrrhh.....
Ruvin wrote:Gatan do you have anyhing against sunglasses  ? No, but my scam chance calculator got a x1.2 for sunglasses. |

PlatinumMercSEAL
Screaming War Eagles Incorporated
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Posted - 2012.01.31 23:41:00 -
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KrakizBad wrote:PlatinumMercSEAL wrote:
I do have a plan. I got 3 haulers are ready recruited to join me in hauling stuff from the low priced Dodixie to a undisclosed market hub that will turn profits. It is a major hub that is not in high security space. We got a plan to run this cargo at almost 100k per drone in profit, not income. How is that for a plan?
Incomplete but a good start. If all you're doing is selling drones in losec, I question your ability to turn around enough to make this sustainable. Why can't you start with the money already invested?
There is more to the plan, but I don't really want to give out secrets that the corporation is doing. I do not want other corporations to steal my ideas. The more I can start with, the more I can make. This is trading, not mining. President of the Screaming War Eagle Association
Doing business is my game. |

KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.01.31 23:56:00 -
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PlatinumMercSEAL wrote:KrakizBad wrote:PlatinumMercSEAL wrote:
I do have a plan. I got 3 haulers are ready recruited to join me in hauling stuff from the low priced Dodixie to a undisclosed market hub that will turn profits. It is a major hub that is not in high security space. We got a plan to run this cargo at almost 100k per drone in profit, not income. How is that for a plan?
Incomplete but a good start. If all you're doing is selling drones in losec, I question your ability to turn around enough to make this sustainable. Why can't you start with the money already invested? There is more to the plan, but I don't really want to give out secrets that the corporation is doing. I do not want other corporations to steal my ideas. The more I can start with, the more I can make. This is trading, not mining. If your business is so susceptible to external pressure from other traders, then you're a pretty bad risk, just saying. http://i.imgur.com/cOmMP.gif |

Dowla Daupor
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Posted - 2012.02.01 00:06:00 -
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PlatinumMercSEAL wrote:Ariana DeSoto wrote:I enquire inserting up pledge 20B. Throbbing ISK wallet when?
You pleasing to thank me, Ariana I assume I set my share value according to law of demand, but since I ready sold the other shares at 1 million, I can only take 360 million ISK. I will convoe you when I get home. Thanks for you generous offer.
You just turned down 20b, fool! |

PlatinumMercSEAL
Screaming War Eagles Incorporated
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Posted - 2012.02.01 00:31:00 -
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Dowla Daupor wrote:PlatinumMercSEAL wrote:Ariana DeSoto wrote:I enquire inserting up pledge 20B. Throbbing ISK wallet when?
You pleasing to thank me, Ariana I assume I set my share value according to law of demand, but since I ready sold the other shares at 1 million, I can only take 360 million ISK. I will convoe you when I get home. Thanks for you generous offer. You just turned down 20b, fool!
I am not here to scam anyone. I am here for official business. If you want all 360 remaining shares, there are still there on the market to be bought. President of the Screaming War Eagle Association
Doing business is my game. |

Jaqa
Screaming War Eagles Incorporated
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Posted - 2012.02.01 00:51:00 -
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Ariana DeSoto wrote:I enquire inserting up pledge 20B. Throbbing ISK wallet when?
You pleasing to thank me, Ariana
I'm curious to hear more about the throbbing part.... And rumor has it I don't wear sun glasses, but maybe I'll make enough from this to buy a boss pair...
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Jaqa
Screaming War Eagles Incorporated
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Posted - 2012.02.01 01:16:00 -
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I should probably also mention that I am one of the private investors in question. In response to the question about share price: they're all going for $1m per--the price is the same for everyone.
To quote, what we have here is a failure to communicate... I've been talking to Plat about this a lot and he does actually know what he is doing. Granted, I am in his corporation and a young re-roll no one has heard of, so my word doesn't mean much. However, I personally will be using some of the feedback and suggestions in this thread (thanks to Ruvin and others) to make sure the IPO is as finely tuned as possible. For example, this guide will be making an appearance.
And no, I'm not his alt, but frankly that doesn't matter, since I will be working closely with him to ensure (and insure) my ISK is well spent. If anyone else is interested, by all means, ask more questions. Worst case scenario, it'll force him to tighten up his operation and I'll make even more money.
Cheers. |

PlatinumMercSEAL
Screaming War Eagles Incorporated
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Posted - 2012.02.01 01:22:00 -
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Jaqa wrote:I should probably also mention that I am one of the private investors in question. In response to the question about share price: they're all going for $1m per--the price is the same for everyone. To quote, what we have here is a failure to communicate... I've been talking to Plat about this a lot and he does actually know what he is doing. Granted, I am in his corporation and a young re-roll no one has heard of, so my word doesn't mean much. However, I personally will be using some of the feedback and suggestions in this thread (thanks to Ruvin and others) to make sure the IPO is as finely tuned as possible. For example, this guide will be making an appearance. And no, I'm not his alt, but frankly that doesn't matter, since I will be working closely with him to ensure (and insure) my ISK is well spent. If anyone else is interested, by all means, ask more questions. Worst case scenario, it'll force him to tighten up his operation and I'll make even more money. Cheers.
Thanks. I am going to change to that IPO format soon, I have to switch TSWE to the new CEO first, so I can put the current ISK to good use. The shares will go up when the wallet does. If the corporation doubles it wallet, yall just lost a chance to double ISK without breaking a sweat. Do not be the guy that regrets not investing. President of the Screaming War Eagle Association
Doing business is my game. |

Ruvin
Glorious Revolution The 99 Percent
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Posted - 2012.02.01 09:16:00 -
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Gatan what about monocles and googles then ?
I would suggest if youre gona be hauling into area where pvp happens also try stuff which is almost a must : ammo , weapons , webs , scramblers , AB , rifters , those are always needed and doubt anyone can steal that market those are welcome everywhere :D repairers , shield boosters , cap rechargers and stuff That in good quantities makes pretty loads of profit :) |

Gatan Hahran
Brukterer DUCT TAPE UNION
81
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Posted - 2012.02.01 11:42:00 -
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Ruvin wrote:Gatan what about monocles and googles then ?
Scam chance modifier for coding your own scam chance calculator:
Sunglasses: x1.2 Googles: x1.0042 Monocles: x0.9
Background of Avatar picture: Light: x0.9 Normal: x1.0 Dark: x1.1
Avatar face Position: Face visible x0.9 Face not visible x1.3
Race: Caldari: x1.0 Amarr x0.8 Gallente x1.1 Minmatar x1.3
Keywords/phrases mentioned in the offer posting: station trading x5000 to pay for my account x5.0 my hulk just got ....... and i need a new one x4.2 trading x1.2 hauling x1.1 I dont really need the isk, but... x1.0 audit report posted soon x0.9 my collateral is x0.8 collateral is worth 120% x0.5 chribba holds... x0.2
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PlatinumMercSEAL
Screaming War Eagles Incorporated
3
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Posted - 2012.02.01 14:03:00 -
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Ruvin wrote:Gatan what about monocles and googles then ?
I would suggest if youre gona be hauling into area where pvp happens also try stuff which is almost a must : ammo , weapons , webs , scramblers , AB , rifters , those are always needed and doubt anyone can steal that market those are welcome everywhere :D repairers , shield boosters , cap rechargers and stuff That in good quantities makes pretty loads of profit :)
That is the current plan. I did the research of the target area we are hauling to. I got the math figures on how much each haul can bring in profit. The real question is how much profit the corporation can make in a week. The number is going up we get more haulers and more investments.
Ruvin there is room on the adviser board. You seem to know a lot. I can use opinions from someone of your experience.
To all investors, private and public: The more investments we have, the more you will receive in dividends per share each week. President of the Screaming War Eagle Association
Doing business is my game. |
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