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Socrates Nacht Tropical Killer Bananas Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.25 12:43:00 - [1] I write this in the full knowledge that 1. ISS will attempt to discredit me 2. That my time in ISS will be "limited" after (have already removed my roles) 3. That most people will either not give a crap or point and laugh FIRST: T-K-B the corp I am in is one of the best corps not only in ISS but in the game, and the following is in no way a refelection on the CEO or the T-K-B members. My time in ISS: A few months ago I left the game auctioned of my character via Eve-O and gave the isk and my assets to a Real life friend in the game. Bored a while later I came back and my friend gave me some of the isk back to buy a character from Eve-O. I decided to try a different path than previously ( I was a pirate and Caldari) and got a mimatar pilot and joined ISS to take part in large scale alliance gaming. Very early on I saw there were some problems. in ISS home systems the defence was erratic to say the least, many ISS didnt even know how to set up overviews correctly, therewas no strategy to deal with AFK cloakers, despite being a dead end system ISS used to group up at a POS 36AU from the gate and send in bait ships, and then were surprised when it popped before the defence gang dropped out of warp. I proposed some easy to make changes to help alleviate these problems, and while ISS management nodded and agreed nothing was done. and ISS members kept on dying needlessly. Having very few assets I struggled to make isk while taking part in the war, but I joined as many operations as I could, certainly many more than the majority of ISS 700+ members. and even FC'd on a couple of occassions. Whie I have no like at all for Goons I was extremely vocal on the ISS forums about the need for ISS to make its own decisions and destiny. Being allied to BOB was not a problem for me, being devoid of our own initiative and having no clear ISS plans were a worry. because of this I was labelled a trouble maker. When ISS was told to abandon Esoteria by BOB some of us argued strongly against this. We wanted to at least go down fighting like men and not running to hide behind BOB's skirts. We were exremely worried that no one seemd to have any idea of what ISS was going to do or become other than we were going to Fountain. When we voiced opur concerns via the ISS forums a director stated he didnt even know why we were still in the alliance. This led to an unseemly row and I was banned for a 2 day cooling off period. Since that point I havent posted on ISS forums or got involved in the politics, although the tempatation to say "I told you so " when BOB stabbed ISS in the back this week was immense. 2 weeks later and I and the others who called for us to make some distance between ISS and BOB, to create our own path, and too regain our independance have been banned from ISS forums. The act of dissention against managemnent decisions is not allowed. I decided to take a few days away from the game and informed my CEO, who has asked me to leave the corps while on the break. I cannot post any of this directly to ISS members alone, so I will post it here. ISS will never again become a major alliance until it breaks free of outside influences and starts to do what is best for ISS not its allies. Until it takes decisions based opn the best path for its members nots its landlords. I wish all the member pilots of ISS the very best, there are many great people amongst you, To the management of ISS .. grow some balls and listen to your pilots BEFORE your friends in other alliances. This post is now open for you all to flame me wether in ISS or not !!!
Major Stormer Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.25 12:46:00 - [2] And yet, this isnt rare. Good luck to you! Yo, sig it!
faterror Sphinx Inc Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2007.11.25 12:55:00 - [3] You're not devilwoman
Socrates Nacht Tropical Killer Bananas Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.25 13:03:00 - [4] Edited by: Socrates Nacht on 25/11/2007 13:03:58 Originally by: faterror You're not devilwoman If I was I would have done a lot better than cut and pasting random out of context bits from forums...
faterror Sphinx Inc Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2007.11.25 13:07:00 - [5] Strategic copy+pasting is very strategic
Cippalippus Primus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.25 13:09:00 - [6] OK, I read all of it and found it interesting. It is however both sad, and amusing at the same time, given that there was a very vocal part of EVE telling how much ISS sucks and is a BoB pet. The last turn of events shows not only how these things are true, but also how ISS and Count don't exist as a political entity. Not only did they get set neutral, and flamed by BoB on forums; but Count crawled back to his masters to get a smack on the wrist, while thanking his overlords for their kindness. Quite sad to see people like this, that don't have the guts to be independent even on a videogame.
Alice Cholmondeley I Am Legend	Posted - 2007.11.25 13:18:00 - [7] Originally by: Cippalippus Primus Quite sad to see people like this, that don't have the guts to be independent even on a videogame. Coming from a paid for community, rolling into the game supported by that same base of people you're talking about being independent almost like you are. Did you hit your head?
Scatim Helicon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.25 13:30:00 - [8] Telling us that ISS are a terrible joke of an alliance, barely know how to play the game and have no political skills beyond the ability to give head isn't really news. But thanks for the thread.
Zhaine B e l l u m	Posted - 2007.11.25 13:32:00 - [9] Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Originally by: Cippalippus Primus Quite sad to see people like this, that don't have the guts to be independent even on a videogame. Coming from a paid for community, rolling into the game supported by that same base of people you're talking about being independent almost like you are. Did you hit your head?
Firkragg Blue Labs Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.11.25 13:43:00 - [10] I would like to take a moment to say that i quite like ISS. Fighting them in tenerifis was some of my first pvp experiences and one of the most fun periods in game for me. Had lots of fun banter in local and generally a good time so im not gonna hop on ISS smackwagon same way i dont hop on the rise smack wagon as i always enjoyed fighting with them.
Hungo Minmatar Unholy Foundation Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.11.25 14:07:00 - [11] ISS will always look for the big boys, u can guarantee it I guarantee they will join up with GSwarm Ill quote this in 6 months :0
Cippalippus Primus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.25 14:14:00 - [12] Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Originally by: Cippalippus Primus Quite sad to see people like this, that don't have the guts to be independent even on a videogame. Coming from a paid for community, rolling into the game supported by that same base of people you're talking about being independent almost like you are. Did you hit your head? That could be a nice troll, but unluckily you really don't get goons or goonswarm.
Omega Man The Geddy Foundation	Posted - 2007.11.25 14:15:00 - [13] OP. ISS have taken their own path. They decided not to do as BOB asked. Now BOB have reset standings. You call it backstabbing by BOB. Exactly who was stabbing who in the back after you admit ISS is rubbish at holding any space is open to question. ISS want to live under BOBs skirts but also think they will just take a bit of space in the meantime, space they have not worked for and prolly incapable of holding. You got what you wanted, ISS walking their own path. Now ISS have some tough times ahead. I am really sorry to see it has worked out like this, coz anything that kills a Goon is worth keeping. - - Happy user of CAOD troll cleaner http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=584345
Scatim Helicon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.25 14:15:00 - [14] Originally by: Hungo I guarantee they will join up with GSwarm Ill quote this in 6 months I'm not convinced ISS will still exist in any coherent form 6 months from now, maybe not even 6 weeks. And if they ever approached us asking for our help its more likely we'd wardec them on the spot.
Alice Cholmondeley I Am Legend	Posted - 2007.11.25 14:34:00 - [15] Originally by: Cippalippus Primus That could be a nice troll, but unluckily you really don't get goons or goonswarm. Don't worry, i get by. But do come again, i like how you think you're special.
marakor Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers	Posted - 2007.11.25 14:38:00 - [16] Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Originally by: Cippalippus Primus That could be a nice troll, but unluckily you really don't get goons or goonswarm. Don't worry, i get by. But do come again, i like how you think you're special. Ignore the "get goon" comments its what they resort to when they cannot come up with a good answer or when you hit the nail on the head and they need a responce.
nye 2k Silver Snake Enterprise Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.25 14:44:00 - [17] the OP is a suspected spy maybe even the one who has been posting on eve-o for some months.......... please be aware when accpeting him into alliances as this is how he treats them.
DaiTengu Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.25 14:47:00 - [18] Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Originally by: Cippalippus Primus Quite sad to see people like this, that don't have the guts to be independent even on a videogame. Coming from a paid for community, rolling into the game supported by that same base of people you're talking about being independent almost like you are. Did you hit your head? It's obvious you don't "get" goons. Also, your explanation makes absolutely no sense. mylp. Originally by: Omega Man OP. ISS have taken their own path. They decided not to do as BOB asked. Now BOB have reset standings. You call it backstabbing by BOB. Exactly who was stabbing who in the back after you admit ISS is rubbish at holding any space is open to question. ISS want to live under BOBs skirts but also think they will just take a bit of space in the meantime, space they have not worked for and prolly incapable of holding. You got what you wanted, ISS walking their own path. Now ISS have some tough times ahead. I am really sorry to see it has worked out like this, coz anything that kills a Goon is worth keeping. Quoting failure. ISS went back to sucking the BoB donge.
Jasese The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.11.25 14:48:00 - [19] Originally by: nye 2k the OP is a suspected spy maybe even the one who has been posting on eve-o for some months.......... please be aware when accpeting him into alliances as this is how he treats them. So anyone who doesn't suck bob's **** is a spy these days? No one is allowed to think individually? You guys disgust me, crawling back to bob.
Kyoi Shuttles Dont Tank Well	Posted - 2007.11.25 14:51:00 - [20] Ah yes Socrates I remember you. During the ED-L9T defence in a 400man friendly fleet you felt the need to whine at the FC that he wasnt doing well enough and was wasting assets because he hadnt asked for the carriers to assign fighters to people guarding the gates (the carriers were repping the pos and no hostile gang was spotted, I think the 300 support ships could deal with most threats). After this rant you then said you would be leaving gang and teamspeak until we sorted it, we told you to shut the **** up and laughed rather heartily. If your suggestions to ISS were as useless I am not surprised they didn't listen to you.
Socrates Nacht Tropical Killer Bananas Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.25 14:53:00 - [21] Originally by: nye 2k the OP is a suspected spy maybe even the one who has been posting on eve-o for some months.......... please be aware when accpeting him into alliances as this is how he treats them. Nice Nye, Seeing as how you were the ISS management that called for anyone who questioned where the blind loyalty to BOB was taking us to be evicted from the alliance, I expected as much from you. So as a "spy" what access did I have to spy at? what information could I have passed over to anyone? I guess that anyone who thinks that you and the other management were making the wrong decisions for ISS is a spy. Oh yes then.. I am a Goon/AAA/IAC/BOB/BRUCE/RISE spy, I get paid by all of them to reveal all the deep secrets I know about ISS from my high level of access I have. (Count often consulted me on which way to go) OR You banned me and others because we dare tell you that us at the bottom of the food chain in ISS are concerned of the directions and actions YOU were taking supposedly on our behalf. To paraphrase you: becareful of joining ISS because this is the way they treat anyone who dares to voice a different point of view.
DaiTengu Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.25 14:53:00 - [22] Originally by: nye 2k the OP is a suspected spy maybe even the one who has been posting on eve-o for some months.......... please be aware when accpeting him into alliances as this is how he treats them. Any decent spy would shut the fsck up and not draw attention to himself. :spy101: ISS even fails at trying to discredit people, no surprise there.
Omega Man The Geddy Foundation	Posted - 2007.11.25 14:53:00 - [23] Originally by: nye 2k the OP is a suspected spy maybe even the one who has been posting on eve-o for some months.......... please be aware when accpeting him into alliances as this is how he treats them. "Must try harder" is the verdict on this effort. Who is he spying for? What the hell is he doing in ISS if you suspect he is a spy. Seems he has been causing trouble in ISS but there he remains. A trouble-maker and a spy. He sure must be important to ISS to keep him. Or alternatively, he is someone rather vocal and ISS neither have the skills to: a. take on board what he is saying. b. show him his plan would take ISS into a place they have no hope in hell of remaining in Or alternatively: a. Prove he is a spy and kick him out. b. Not prove he is a spy and still kick him out. I suspect half of ISS to be useless arses sitting about sucking down isk, hoping they are not going to be called to do anything. The leadership seems to be ineffective and useless. I'll take this loudmouth spy over that lot anyday of the week. - - Happy user of CAOD troll cleaner http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=584345
fire 59 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.11.25 14:57:00 - [24] Pretty much thought he sounded like a planted spy as i read the op tbh. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bdd74kLxgGo
Bran Stormer GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.25 14:57:00 - [25] Originally by: marakor Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Originally by: Cippalippus Primus That could be a nice troll, but unluckily you really don't get goons or goonswarm. Don't worry, i get by. But do come again, i like how you think you're special. Ignore the "get goon" comments its what they resort to when they cannot come up with a good answer or when you hit the nail on the head and they need a responce. I don't think you "get" goons.
Cippalippus Primus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.25 14:59:00 - [26] Originally by: marakor Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Originally by: Cippalippus Primus That could be a nice troll, but unluckily you really don't get goons or goonswarm. Don't worry, i get by. But do come again, i like how you think you're special. Ignore the "get goon" comments its what they resort to when they cannot come up with a good answer or when you hit the nail on the head and they need a responce. The irony of being smacked by two alts that are forbidden to post with their main by their corporation/alliance. The irony.
Socrates Nacht Tropical Killer Bananas Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.25 14:59:00 - [27] Originally by: Kyoi Ah yes Socrates I remember you. During the ED-L9T defence in a 400man friendly fleet you felt the need to whine at the FC that he wasnt doing well enough and was wasting assets because he hadnt asked for the carriers to assign fighters to people guarding the gates (the carriers were repping the pos and no hostile gang was spotted, I think the 300 support ships could deal with most threats). After this rant you then said you would be leaving gang and teamspeak until we sorted it, we told you to shut the **** up and laughed rather heartily. If your suggestions to ISS were as useless I am not surprised they didn't listen to you. Yup, at a "quiet point" I requested that fighters be assigned as we were expecting trouble, I did not leave TS or the gang I logged as funnily enough I had other things to do, I made a suggestion that was overuled, I also suggested that we had a small POS near the gate in BZ so that the bait ships that kept getting sent to the gate didnt die while the support gang tried to warp 36 AU's to get there, also a bad idea? I also suggested that members are shown how to set up overviews so they didnt shoot freindlies, another bad idea? I also suggested that to combat the cloakers we also had guys who were afk go afk at a pos rather than in station so the cloakers would not know if they were active or not, another bad idea? At least I had thoughts and comments, and did take part, unfortunatly as has been shown trying to have an input that isnt 100% in line with management means getting booted. Perhaps you are happy being a drone without any say, personally I like having an input,
Shirokko Papshimar Gallente SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.25 15:06:00 - [28] poasting in a faterror thread
JeanPaul Sartre 26th of July Movement	Posted - 2007.11.25 15:09:00 - [29] Whats up in this thread guys? Alice stirring up Goons again? :welp: -- Quote: If a victory is told in detail, one can no longer distinguish it from a defeat.
General StarScream THE DECEPTIC0NS	Posted - 2007.11.25 15:10:00 - [30] LOL Death to bob and everyone whom support them. ISS are doomed to fail they will die, fight bob or die fighting with them, while losing everything you have, + your fun in the game will be lost as well, for fun time, call. Delve is free for taking, fountain is soon lost. Iss is a proof and continuation of what happend to xelas BOb will destory anyone whom holds there hand. just fight and kill bob, and you will get your own region, stations, and space to live in. fight for, die for. FIght bob to have fun, its the only way. DEATH TO BOB Sig Removed. Dont use inappropriate language in sigs -Kaemonn
Victor Vision Central Intelligence Service	Posted - 2007.11.25 15:16:00 - [31] Edited by: Victor Vision on 25/11/2007 15:16:35 Originally by: nye 2k the OP is a suspected spy maybe even the one who has been posting on eve-o for some months.......... please be aware when accpeting him into alliances as this is how he treats them. nye 2k, given the context it is posted in, your post makes you look unqualified for any sort of position within any alliance in eve. In fact, your post provides further substance to the rant of the OP. You might want to edit out your post and replace it with a `nvm` or something similar. THAT IS AN ORDER, btw! (I heard the rumor you were good at taking orders - if you get my drift ) EVE War I-The Beginning - EVE History Wiki
Bran Stormer GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.25 15:16:00 - [32] Originally by: General StarScream for fun time, call.
copeq harkonnen Caldari Silver Snake Enterprise Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.25 15:18:00 - [33] posting in teh best ISS thread ever
Junkarr Opinicus Operations	Posted - 2007.11.25 15:19:00 - [34] Originally by: Bran Stormer Originally by: General StarScream for fun time, call. but there is no number How will I know who to call for fun times now? - WE ALL DESERVE MEDALS FOR THIS
Dan Markov	Posted - 2007.11.25 15:34:00 - [35] OP is sooooo sound like another goon but this time the real spy... Fail dot
Hey You Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.11.25 15:39:00 - [36] Edited by: Hey You on 25/11/2007 15:39:03 man if you don't like it leave it. its as simple as that. We Ride Together We Die Together
Tryptic Photon Gallente Black Watch Legionnaires	Posted - 2007.11.25 15:40:00 - [37] Another Ground Hog day, is any of this really news to anyone who knows ISS? Kicked out of Providence Kicked out of Tenerifis Kicked out of Geminate (<-2 months of absolute hilarity) Kicked out of Esoteria And now kicked out of Fountain Alliance SOP: - management farms and makes isk building capitals - the same 20 peeps form gangs for defense over and over - the rest rat/mine until their ships are blown up by cloakers - FC's burn out and leave cause it's pointless to defend If anything, it's a great training ground for learning what an alliance should never be. This is why so many went on to greater things AFTER leaving ISS.
Testosterone Bomb Red Ballz	Posted - 2007.11.25 15:47:00 - [38] Socrates Nacht There is such a thing as loyalty to a Corp , Alliance or Gang mates. But when you find that those you fly with are going down a path you think is greatly different then the one you want you get a voice / vote in the decision of what to do next. Directors have the final say on many things ranging from docking rights, taxes, standings and who gets black listed, but the everyday pilot forgets they have final say over their destiny. Every player in game gets to vote with their feet dude. Fly with your mates when you have leaders / allies that care and treat you with respect and fly away when someone starts to play off the fear of assets getting locked down or stolen if you cross them. Any Alliance or Corp that does not treat others as equals are pilots you should not fly with. Pilots in EvE dont need to stay where they are if you know that its time you took a different path then take it. Fly Safe
xBlood Exanimo Inc	Posted - 2007.11.25 15:51:00 - [39] One thing: TKB are not one of the best corps in the game. They're rather pathetic (at least they used to be). They war dec'd my 10man industrial corp a while back...saying they wanted pvp. This is a industrial corp with everyone as total noobs and none of us had pvp experience Just thought I'd pick that bone. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
Scatim Helicon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.25 16:16:00 - [40] Originally by: Tryptic Photon Alliance SOP: - management farms and makes isk building capitals - the same 20 peeps form gangs for defense over and over - the rest rat/mine until their ships are blown up by cloakers - FC's burn out and leave cause it's pointless to defend You missed the bit where Countess Asinine embezzels 20b from alliance funds to build himself a mothership.
Scatim Helicon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.25 16:18:00 - [41] Originally by: fire 59 Pretty much thought he sounded like a planted spy as i read the op tbh. I don't think you 'get' spying.
Lochmar Fiendhiem Caldari International Multi-Player Consortium Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.11.25 16:19:00 - [42] and lost it. along with the stations in catch Originally by: Halkin bob is dead, goons are great, cheese is cheesy, there we go no need for any more threads
dev1lwoman Cynos R US	Posted - 2007.11.25 16:34:00 - [43] Yes its true Soctretes Nacht is my inside man in ISS... Now he has been outed I can no longer bring you snippets from their forums.. Like this one the truth about NCIC leaving ISS.. and by the way Soc, your fired you are a lousy spy anyway Quote: Packtu'sa ISS Management NCIC Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: IN TEH INTERNETS LAWL Posts: 277 Rep Power: 1 NCIC Removal From ISS Hello, The Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp [NCIC] is being removed from the alliance for the foreseeable future. Kaisair and I will continue to pursue our own ambitions. The other members of the corporation will be dissolved, and will be looking for new homes themselves, inside or outside ISS as they please. Decisions were made. This is not a voluntary departure, and it is not on good terms. Nothing more needs to be said. We had some great times with the alliance. Feel free to drop us a message from time to time. We might get lonely out there in space. Thanks, Packtu'sa and Kaisair
YouShallKnowFear Fourty-Two	Posted - 2007.11.25 17:03:00 - [44] Given the documented history of planting spies and dissenters to make emo caod posts, the OP is probably a spy. That doesn't mean that what he's saying isn't true, but obviously his motives and bias are clear. gg RSF, another trick you learned from bob.
Empyre Domestic Reform Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.25 18:16:00 - [45] socrates.. i truly don't know if you're the spy or not. and if you are, prolly not the only one. regardless, your delivery was absolutely off-point. you always came across rash and doomsdayish. you were asked to calm down before you were told to, several times. if you can't understand the most basic elements of human communication then good luck to you. maybe you were a spy and maybe not, but you have to understand sooner or later the position you put yourself in. The official goon buzz-kill.
Horatio Nately Caldari 808 Enterprises The Red Skull	Posted - 2007.11.25 18:25:00 - [46] iss is the original failure cascade imo. --------------------------------------- CEO 808 Enterprises, A Hawaii, USA Playercorp Supporting the Caldari State (of mind)
Murtala Mushin Market	Posted - 2007.11.25 18:38:00 - [47] 1 - If you did not like what your corp is doing You could mention your opinion in convo or corp forums 2 - If your opinion is noted and not accepted Then you have to accept that or leave corp 3a -If you accept it then cool 3b - if you going to leave Leave quietly not need to broadcast your opinion publicly and attack your corp because they do not accept your opinion What makes you believe your always right. leave quietly ______________ Goons
Socrates Nacht Tropical Killer Bananas Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.25 18:44:00 - [48] Originally by: Murtala 1 - If you did not like what your corp is doing You could mention your opinion in convo or corp forums 2 - If your opinion is noted and not accepted Then you have to accept that or leave corp 3a -If you accept it then cool 3b - if you going to leave Leave quietly not need to broadcast your opinion publicly and attack your corp because they do not accept your opinion What makes you believe your always right. leave quietly Reading comprehension FTW: I was happy in my corps, I was voiced concerns over the alliances direction on the alliance private forum. I was banned from the forums, as was other dissenting voices with no warning or reason.
DALE0404 Blue Star Brotherhood A.F.K	Posted - 2007.11.25 18:49:00 - [49] Originally by: Socrates Nacht I was banned from the forums... During my time in ISS no-one ever got banned from the forums unless we found out they were a spy, inactive or they left ISS. Wonder why your the first? A.F.K Alliance
dastommy79 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.25 18:50:00 - [50] I want to feel ISS from the inside................. Wow that sounds kinda **. I driks lot signature removed- Jacques([email protected])* Next mod that nerfs my sig gets a **** punch
Murtala Mushin Market	Posted - 2007.11.25 18:52:00 - [51] Originally by: Socrates Nacht I was happy in my corps, Then leave quietly. There are 200,000 accounts and 30,000 online at mo in different corp and not everyone is happy with there corps direction. But you in your infinite wisdom decided you are so right that you have to publicly find support for you opinion. The only support you are getting is mainly from your corp enemies. If you are so right why donÆt you set up your own corp and alliance and see how easy it is to survive in 0.0 ______________ Goons
Socrates Nacht Tropical Killer Bananas Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.25 19:05:00 - [52] Edited by: Socrates Nacht on 25/11/2007 19:15:31 Murtala Its not a matter of being right, I can be and have been wrong on many occassions, it is a matter of those who want to voice an opinion that differs from the line management take are banned from the internal forums. My current CEO didnt even know that had been done and wasnt consulted. Nye a few weeks ago called for those of us on the forums that didnt agree with abandoning our homes in Esoteria in the manner we were told too by BOB to be booted out of the alliance. Funny now that the reason Nye gives is that I am a spy, I am sure with the ultra high level of access I had in the alliance and on the forums my spying was invaluable I know that my only and sole objective was to make the point that ISS needs(and still does) to sort out what IT wants to do, before what BOB wants it to do, and talk to its members in an open and frank manner. That wont happen now as if any member wants to disagree with the management they are obviously a Goon spy. The reason I posted o here, was 1. Because I am really ****ed off with being banned for daring to speak out and say what other pilots in ISS are thinking. 2. Because I cannot defend myself against anything being said about this situation on the ISS private forums, I am banned remember 3. Because I belive that the ISS management have forgotten their first duty is to the ISS memebers and not to their allies. 4. because I dont believe that despite what BOB did to them yesterday ISS management have decided that they will "make peace" with BOB, they must know after that incident and the Xelas incident that they are taking on a huge risk, at the members expense Anyway if it makes ISS management happy to believe I am a spy then thats up to them [/
Irony DuCarma Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.11.25 19:10:00 - [53] Originally by: Cippalippus Primus The irony of being smacked by two alts that are forbidden to post with their main by their corporation/alliance. The irony. Wasn't that you? Haven't I told you already to leave me out of this? I don't want to be famous! Originally by: Socrates Nacht .... nodded and agreed nothing was done. and ISS members kept on dying needlessly. for any reason or none, as long as they do. I nearly hugged you, Sokrates, before I remembered to be in IAC. Anyway, /me slaps Nye. [/irony]
Murtala Mushin Market	Posted - 2007.11.25 19:25:00 - [54] I am not debating whether you're right or wrong. All I am saying is if you or anyone disagrees with a corp direction, then leave quietly. No-one forces you or anyone to stay in ISS or any other corp in EvE. Your ISS forum are NOT part of your subs to CCP. You have your rights to an opinion and the owners of your ISS forums also have the rights to there opinion too. They have a right, like every forum to moderate or ban anyone that they feel are trouble makers. You could have taken the hint that ISS do not agree with you and like anyone else in ISS who feel the way you do, can leave. Form your own corp. But you know the goons are out to attack anything BoB or its allies on CAOD and you knew that your post will appeal to your corp enemies more than your corp mates. That not nice way to leave a corp. ______________ Goons
Socrates Nacht Tropical Killer Bananas Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.25 19:30:00 - [55] Originally by: Murtala I am not debating whether you're right or wrong. All I am saying is if you or anyone disagrees with a corp direction, then leave quietly. No-one forces you or anyone to stay in ISS or any other corp in EvE. Your ISS forum are NOT part of your subs to CCP. You have your rights to an opinion and the owners of your ISS forums also have the rights to there opinion too. They have a right, like every forum to moderate or ban anyone that they feel are trouble makers. You could have taken the hint that ISS do not agree with you and like anyone else in ISS who feel the way you do, can leave. Form your own corp. But you know the goons are out to attack anything BoB or its allies on CAOD and you knew that your post will appeal to your corp enemies more than your corp mates. That not nice way to leave a corp. So they can treat me like crap, but I shouldnt dare object? I dont know what sort of person you are, but when someone treats me like dogdirt, rather than running away whimpering or pleading for forgiveness, I prefer to stand up for myself. Thinking about it, that probably why ISS management took a dislike to me
Victor Vision Central Intelligence Service	Posted - 2007.11.25 19:50:00 - [56] Originally by: Socrates Nacht Originally by: Murtala I am not debating whether you're right or wrong. All I am saying is if you or anyone disagrees with a corp direction, then leave quietly. No-one forces you or anyone to stay in ISS or any other corp in EvE. Your ISS forum are NOT part of your subs to CCP. You have your rights to an opinion and the owners of your ISS forums also have the rights to there opinion too. They have a right, like every forum to moderate or ban anyone that they feel are trouble makers. You could have taken the hint that ISS do not agree with you and like anyone else in ISS who feel the way you do, can leave. Form your own corp. But you know the goons are out to attack anything BoB or its allies on CAOD and you knew that your post will appeal to your corp enemies more than your corp mates. That not nice way to leave a corp. So they can treat me like crap, but I shouldnt dare object? I dont know what sort of person you are, but when someone treats me like dogdirt, rather than running away whimpering or pleading for forgiveness, I prefer to stand up for myself. Thinking about it, that probably why ISS management took a dislike to me Lets see if you are a spy... I have this to say: Just relax, take it easy. You're still young, that's your fault, There's so much you have to know. Find a girl, settle down, If you want you can marry. Look at me, I am old, but I'm happy. I was once like you are now, and I know that it's not easy, To be calm when you've found something going on. But take your time, think a lot, Why, think of everything you've got. For you will still be here tomorrow, but your dreams may not. What is the reply? EVE War I-The Beginning - EVE History Wiki
Socrates Nacht Tropical Killer Bananas Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.25 19:56:00 - [57] Edited by: Socrates Nacht on 25/11/2007 19:56:32 Quote: What is the reply? All the times that I cried, keeping all the things I knew inside, Its hard, but its harder to ignore it. If they were right, Id agree, but its them you know not me. Now theres a way and I know that I have to go away. I know I have to go.
Shiv Katall Minmatar Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.25 19:56:00 - [58] Originally by: Socrates Nacht So they can treat me like crap, but I shouldnt dare object? I dont know what sort of person you are, but when someone treats me like dogdirt, rather than running away whimpering or pleading for forgiveness, I prefer to stand up for myself. Thinking about it, that probably why ISS management took a dislike to me Obviously, you do not "get" being a BoB pet. ôNobody ever defended anything successfully, there is only attack and attack and attack some more.ö
Murtala Mushin Market	Posted - 2007.11.25 20:01:00 - [59] Originally by: Shiv Katall Originally by: Socrates Nacht So they can treat me like crap, but I shouldnt dare object? I dont know what sort of person you are, but when someone treats me like dogdirt, rather than running away whimpering or pleading for forgiveness, I prefer to stand up for myself. Thinking about it, that probably why ISS management took a dislike to me Obviously, you do not "get" being a BoB pet. No but he gets being a Goonie tho, await his app if he is not a spy ______________ Goons
Socrates Nacht Perkone	Posted - 2007.11.25 20:10:00 - [60] Originally by: Murtala Originally by: Shiv Katall Originally by: Socrates Nacht So they can treat me like crap, but I shouldnt dare object? I dont know what sort of person you are, but when someone treats me like dogdirt, rather than running away whimpering or pleading for forgiveness, I prefer to stand up for myself. Thinking about it, that probably why ISS management took a dislike to me Obviously, you do not "get" being a BoB pet. No but he gets being a Goonie tho, await his app if he is not a spy I have already had multiple offers to join corps, 2 of which are involved in the war against Goons and friends and that was before I put up the post in the recruitment forum. I have directed every corps that has shown an interest in recruiting me to this thread to explain why I am leaving ISS, and to be open and honest with them, NOT ONE THINKS IT IS A PROBLEM. However I think I have had enough of this war, and am looking for an corps and alliance that is only interested in what is best for its members.
Keeto Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.11.25 20:18:00 - [61] Edited by: Keeto on 25/11/2007 20:19:02 I am confused why you would come back to an alliance that kicked you out for a "2 day cooling off period". You either have no pride or you really wanted to get back into this alliance, that wouldnt listen to you, very badly. I have found that more times than not guys like you are a cancer in corps/alliances and combined with the fact that you choose to let eve-o be the voicing ground of your rant furthers that opinion.
Socrates Nacht Perkone	Posted - 2007.11.25 20:21:00 - [62] I got kicked off the ISS forums not out of the alliance for 2 days
Patrick Morita	Posted - 2007.11.25 20:26:00 - [63] Originally by: Hungo I guarantee they will join up with GSwarm Ill quote this in 6 months :0 if ISS was allowed to join Goonswarm, Goonswarm would lose 5000 members
torN Deception GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.25 20:29:00 - [64] Originally by: Murtala No but he gets being a Goonie tho, await his app if he is not a spy Even for some brainless BoB pet that's gone all Stockholm Syndrome, you should be smart enough to realize that if Socrates really was an RSF spy you wouldn't find out when he posted a tell-all about his ****ty slave alliance on CAOD, you'd find out about it when he offlined all their towers and emptied the corp hangars.
Socrates Nacht EX ISS	Posted - 2007.11.25 20:40:00 - [65] Originally by: Patrick Morita Originally by: Hungo I guarantee they will join up with GSwarm Ill quote this in 6 months :0 if ISS was allowed to join Goonswarm, Goonswarm would lose 5000 members If Goonswarm accepted ISS , ISS would lose 98% of its members..
Patrick Morita Mothership Connection Inc. GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.25 20:44:00 - [66] Edited by: Patrick Morita on 25/11/2007 20:43:52 Originally by: Socrates Nacht Originally by: Patrick Morita Originally by: Hungo I guarantee they will join up with GSwarm Ill quote this in 6 months :0 if ISS was allowed to join Goonswarm, Goonswarm would lose 5000 members If Goonswarm accepted ISS , ISS would lose 98% of its members.. good thing you and rise are persona non grata then huh
NO BRAKES Brutor tribe	Posted - 2007.11.25 21:00:00 - [67] Originally by: Socrates Nacht Originally by: Patrick Morita Originally by: Hungo I guarantee they will join up with GSwarm Ill quote this in 6 months :0 if ISS was allowed to join Goonswarm, Goonswarm would lose 5000 members If Goonswarm accepted ISS , ISS would lose 98% of its members.. Haven't you guys already lost like 90% of your members?
Dangerously Cheesey GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.25 21:03:00 - [68] Originally by: NO BRAKES Originally by: Socrates Nacht Originally by: Patrick Morita Originally by: Hungo I guarantee they will join up with GSwarm Ill quote this in 6 months :0 if ISS was allowed to join Goonswarm, Goonswarm would lose 5000 members If Goonswarm accepted ISS , ISS would lose 98% of its members.. Haven't you guys already lost like 90% of your members? So wait, whats 98% of 10%? ~.999 = 1?
Kaaii Caldari Kaaii-Net Research Labs	Posted - 2007.11.25 21:25:00 - [69] 109? According to Oveur, existing LSAA's already anchored will stay there. kieron Director of Community Relations,
Socrates Nacht EX ISS	Posted - 2007.11.25 21:49:00 - [70] I have said my bit, no doubt to some I will always be a spy, to others just an idiot for using CAOD to tell my side of the story. I wish the pilots of ISS well, and sincerely hope that the ISS management remember where their priorities are. I am going to move on in the game, I have recieved a number of interesting offers and will be hopefully enjoying some pew pew again soon I will leave you with a comment from one of the mails I have recieved from ISS members.. Quote: Sorry you got shafted... (snip)...I dont know where ISS are going, I hope, despite all the propaganda being shown against you internally in ISS, that at least a little of what you have said has been heard. If not then you will not be the only one to speak up
Lilan Kahn Amarr The Littlest Hobos Insurgency	Posted - 2007.11.25 21:53:00 - [71] Originally by: Socrates Nacht I have said my bit, no doubt to some I will always be a spy, to others just an idiot for using CAOD to tell my side of the story. I wish the pilots of ISS well, and sincerely hope that the ISS management remember where their priorities are. I am going to move on in the game, I have recieved a number of interesting offers and will be hopefully enjoying some pew pew again soon I will leave you with a comment from one of the mails I have recieved from ISS members.. Quote: Sorry you got shafted... (snip)...I dont know where ISS are going, I hope, despite all the propaganda being shown against you internally in ISS, that at least a little of what you have said has been heard. If not then you will not be the only one to speak up Dont feel bad count did the same thing when all the issn fc's left oh and the X iss nubs here is stil kicking ass and takeing names "Bringing Content to you 1 round of ammo at a time"
KillahB Silver Snake Enterprise Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.25 22:36:00 - [72] GL out there man, fly safe. no ones Illah than KiLLaH
Shirokko Papshimar Gallente SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.25 22:40:00 - [73] Originally by: KillahB GL out there man, fly safe. where are my bloody socks? told you to stay out of my underwear draw.... im the juggernaught *****
Elisa Day Real Nice And Laidback Corporation Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.25 22:43:00 - [74] I seem to remember you being banned for 2 days from the forum because you spouted a constant stream of vile, offensive, insulting posts and wouldn't calm down even though asked repeatedly. Which I heard was the same thing that happened when you were kicked from that TS server...
WrathOfOprah Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.25 23:01:00 - [75] Edited by: WrathOfOprah on 25/11/2007 23:00:50 Originally by: Elisa Day I seem to remember you being banned for 2 days from the forum because you spouted a constant stream of vile, offensive, insulting posts and wouldn't calm down even though asked repeatedly. Which I heard was the same thing that happened when you were kicked from that TS server... OP: Hey guys, this thing with BoB isn't working out so well ISS: Oh my. Something I don't want to hear lalalalalala OP: Hey listen I'm serious ISS: CALM DOWN
Devian 666 Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.25 23:10:00 - [76] Edited by: Devian 666 on 25/11/2007 23:12:17 Originally by: Socrates Nacht Originally by: Patrick Morita Originally by: Hungo I guarantee they will join up with GSwarm Ill quote this in 6 months :0 if ISS was allowed to join Goonswarm, Goonswarm would lose 5000 members If Goonswarm accepted ISS , ISS would lose 98% of its farmers. Fixed it for you. What you find with most alliances (especially the crappy ones) is that if you question anything about the way the alliance operates some members will go nuts at you. They'll take it personally when you point out that it's obviously crap. They'll get even more upset when it's actually true. There are two critical mistakes that you made. 1) you joined a carebear alliance with little or no intention of pvping seriously. The pvp turn out is a give away that you're wasting your time with them. 2) you lost your bs because you listened to an idiot. Nothing wrong with using a jump bridge if you take your own fuel. Given that they claim they're reserved for carrier loot hauling instead of pvp ops that's a second give away. When using internal alliance forums you should probably learn to couch your opinions more carefully but if they're going to gag you for speaking out then speak with your feet. Where I come from we just leave instead of making a big fuss. We almost won. [ 2007.11.17 08:26:19 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your 150mm Railgun II places an excellent hit on Shrike [EVOL]<BOB>(Avatar), inflicting 41.4 damage.
Osabojo GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.25 23:41:00 - [77] Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Coming from a paid for community, You mean like this one?
Murtala Mushin Market	Posted - 2007.11.26 00:00:00 - [78] Edited by: Murtala on 26/11/2007 00:03:21 Originally by: Elisa Day I seem to remember you being banned for 2 days from the forum because you spouted a constant stream of vile, offensive, insulting posts and wouldn't calm down even though asked repeatedly. Which I heard was the same thing that happened when you were kicked from that TS server... There's usually someone like him in every corp that take things too far and start loosing it. There opinions are more important that the corp or alliance leaders. In time, there ravings beginning to infected or irritate others in the corp which makes the corps leaders politics more difficult and the corp looses focus. Like a cancer, members like this are best cut out. They need to unplug EDIT: Originally by: Devian 666 When using internal alliance forums you should probably learn to couch your opinions more carefully but if they're going to gag you for speaking out then speak with your feet. Where I come from we just leave instead of making a big fuss. QFT ______________ Goons
Hunter Nay Minmatar Hunter Group	Posted - 2007.11.26 00:24:00 - [79] Edited by: Hunter Nay on 26/11/2007 00:25:49 Originally by: Keeto Edited by: Keeto on 25/11/2007 20:19:02 I am confused why you would come back to an alliance that kicked you out for a "2 day cooling off period". You either have no pride or you really wanted to get back into this alliance, that wouldnt listen to you, very badly. Quote: This quote can apply to ISS getting back in with BOB aswell. Edit - Spelling
Testosterone Bomb Red Ballz	Posted - 2007.11.26 00:37:00 - [80] Socrates Nacht and any others reading this thread. Take a moment to read the reply from Devian of IGNE , its very sound advise to hopefully find the corp / alliance that best suits you. Fly Safe
Varly GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.26 00:45:00 - [81] Originally by: Scatim Helicon I'm not convinced ISS will still exist in any coherent form 6 months from now, maybe not even 6 weeks. And if they ever approached us asking for our help its more likely we'd wardec them on the spot. ISS hasn't existed in any coherent form in nearly a year. What ISS became this year is an even bigger joke than what it was when it thought it was on LV's side. Anyone worth anything left a long time ago. Anyone who actually stayed did so either because they have some irrational sense of e-loyalty, or because they have such low self esteem that Count seems like a good leader.
Sakhalin The Phoenix Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.26 00:59:00 - [82] Y'know ISS, if I were you I would start moving your assets out of BoB stations and into npc stations in readiness of the next time your BoB master deems you an errant pet. Unless you enjoy the murder-suicide thing they have lined up for you, that is.
Kyoi Shuttles Dont Tank Well	Posted - 2007.11.26 01:15:00 - [83] ISS were better off without you too Bitter Dog. Story time again, I remember when you sat your moros on the F4R station trying to cap it only to realise you were 0km so you opened fire but as you were using rails you obviously need to be 1m+ for it to start hitting so you insisted on slowboating the 25km outside the docking ring at which point you had run out of ammo. Then the real lulz came when you asked the support fleet if they had any spare Antimatter XL. gg
Sgt Napalm Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.11.26 01:59:00 - [84] Originally by: Kyoi ISS were better off without you too Bitter Dog. Story time again, I remember when you sat your moros on the F4R station trying to cap it only to realise you were 0km so you opened fire but as you were using rails you obviously need to be 1m+ for it to start hitting so you insisted on slowboating the 25km outside the docking ring at which point you had run out of ammo. Then the real lulz came when you asked the support fleet if they had any spare Antimatter XL. gg Jacob? Is that you?
Varly GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.26 02:02:00 - [85] Originally by: Sgt Napalm Jacob? Is that you? ahahahaha Sgt Napalm, DICE BoB Lite, indeed grats on making the bigtime
Kyoi Shuttles Dont Tank Well	Posted - 2007.11.26 02:13:00 - [86] Originally by: Sgt Napalm Originally by: Kyoi ISS were better off without you too Bitter Dog. Story time again, I remember when you sat your moros on the F4R station trying to cap it only to realise you were 0km so you opened fire but as you were using rails you obviously need to be 1m+ for it to start hitting so you insisted on slowboating the 25km outside the docking ring at which point you had run out of ammo. Then the real lulz came when you asked the support fleet if they had any spare Antimatter XL. gg Jacob? Is that you? Jacob who ?
Cvuos GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.26 02:18:00 - [87] Originally by: Kyoi Jacob who ? Jacob Majestic. ISS' Mata Hari.
Kyoi Shuttles Dont Tank Well	Posted - 2007.11.26 02:20:00 - [88] 'fraid not old chap, Try again.
Digicomm The Digital Communists	Posted - 2007.11.26 02:27:00 - [89] Originally by: Varly Originally by: Sgt Napalm Jacob? Is that you? ahahahaha Sgt Napalm, DICE BoB Lite, indeed grats on making the bigtime That was fail. Stop posting.
Jonathan Peterbilt Caldari Damage Unlimited Inc Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2007.11.26 04:23:00 - [90] Originally by: Jasese Originally by: nye 2k the OP is a suspected spy maybe even the one who has been posting on eve-o for some months.......... please be aware when accpeting him into alliances as this is how he treats them. So anyone who doesn't suck bob's **** is a spy these days? No one is allowed to think individually? You guys disgust me, crawling back to bob. Or maybe its because he purchased that character ?
Cippalippus Primus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.26 10:47:00 - [91] I don't know, but looking for PvP into ISS is like going in Saudi Arabia to watch topless girls.
Louis Lane Minmatar Imperium Holding corp	Posted - 2007.11.26 10:55:00 - [92] Originally by: Omega Man OP. ISS have taken their own path. They decided not to do as BOB asked. Now BOB have reset standings. You call it backstabbing by BOB. Exactly who was stabbing who in the back after you admit ISS is rubbish at holding any space is open to question. ISS want to live under BOBs skirts but also think they will just take a bit of space in the meantime, space they have not worked for and prolly incapable of holding. You got what you wanted, ISS walking their own path. Now ISS have some tough times ahead. I am really sorry to see it has worked out like this, coz anything that kills a Goon is worth keeping. so says the bob alt
Ponderous Thunderstroke Republic War Machine Industries	Posted - 2007.11.26 10:57:00 - [93] Originally by: Cippalippus Primus I don't know, but looking for PvP into ISS is like going in Saudi Arabia to watch topless girls. Complete thread winner.
thoth foc Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2007.11.26 11:15:00 - [94] Originally by: Socrates Nacht ISS will never again become a major alliance until it breaks free of outside influences and starts to do what is best for ISS not its allies. Until it takes decisions based opn the best path for its members nots its landlords. This just isnt true for any "major alliance".. I dont know ISS, so this isnt a reflection on them.. but to be a "major alliance" you just have to be very good and focused at what you do.. that has nothing to do with landlords.. And if the "best path" for the members is different from the goals of the alliance, you've got the wrong members, and your better without them tbh.. _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) ATUK (.5.) xDICE (BOB) xElcyion Lacar
Butter Dog The Littlest Hobos Insurgency	Posted - 2007.11.26 11:39:00 - [95] Originally by: Kyoi ISS were better off without you too Bitter Dog. Story time again, I remember when you sat your moros on the F4R station trying to cap it only to realise you were 0km so you opened fire but as you were using rails you obviously need to be 1m+ for it to start hitting so you insisted on slowboating the 25km outside the docking ring at which point you had run out of ammo. Then the real lulz came when you asked the support fleet if they had any spare Antimatter XL. gg lol, I can't even fly a moros ----------
Princess Jodi Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.11.26 16:45:00 - [96] Originally by: Victor Vision Lets play a game... I have this to say: Just relax, take it easy. You're still young, that's your fault, There's so much you have to know. Find a girl, settle down, If you want you can marry. Look at me, I am old, but I'm happy. I was once like you are now, and I know that it's not easy, To be calm when you've found something going on. But take your time, think a lot, Why, think of everything you've got. For you will still be here tomorrow, but your dreams may not. What is the reply? Apparently, your answer is to convert to Islam and renounce all the wonderful music you made up that point. I'd be mad if my corp made such stupid deals as ISS has apparently made too. I'd fight for change within the corp before abandoning it. And I've see very stupid CEO's in the past, so I have no problem with cutting off their head. If the guy thinks ISS did poorly, then are all the flamers saying that instead ISS did well? All that aside, ISS made their bed when they sided with Bob, and now they are suffering for that decision. They are simply another on the list of failed Bob pets.
Gelvitron Asgard Protectorate	Posted - 2007.11.26 17:53:00 - [97] Originally by: Sgt Napalm Jacob? Is that you? HAHAHA.. wouldn't be an ISS thread ... To the Op. Guess things haven't changed much. Good luck to your main in a future.
Please Hold	Posted - 2007.11.26 18:04:00 - [98] Originally by: Princess Jodi lol I'm in Rule of 3 Why don't you hire some TRI about it.
Dafuzz Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.11.26 23:26:00 - [99] Originally by: Scatim Helicon Telling us that ISS are a terrible joke of an alliance, barely know how to play the game and have no political skills beyond the ability to give head isn't really news. But thanks for the thread. I really missed out all this time -- -If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets..
Dafuzz Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.11.26 23:28:00 - [100] Originally by: Louis Lane Originally by: Omega Man OP. ISS have taken their own path. They decided not to do as BOB asked. Now BOB have reset standings. You call it backstabbing by BOB. Exactly who was stabbing who in the back after you admit ISS is rubbish at holding any space is open to question. ISS want to live under BOBs skirts but also think they will just take a bit of space in the meantime, space they have not worked for and prolly incapable of holding. You got what you wanted, ISS walking their own path. Now ISS have some tough times ahead. I am really sorry to see it has worked out like this, coz anything that kills a Goon is worth keeping. so says the bob alt HI ANEU PS: I think its a goon alt masquerading as a BoB alt but it was actually the Butler in the Parlor. Goons prefer blue/blue shooting I read it somewhere -- -If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets..
Cipher7 VersaTech Interstellar Ltd. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.27 05:57:00 - [101] "ISS from the inside." Sounds kinky, like you wanna feel someone up from the inside.
Vogue Seven. Enuma Elish.	Posted - 2007.11.27 16:46:00 - [102] Once i defended a ISS station as part of a big blob fleet. Had to pay 50K isk to dock at the station. Nice touch lol.
Wesley Baird Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2007.11.27 17:19:00 - [103] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Kyoi ISS were better off without you too Bitter Dog. Story time again, I remember when you sat your moros on the F4R station trying to cap it only to realise you were 0km so you opened fire but as you were using rails you obviously need to be 1m+ for it to start hitting so you insisted on slowboating the 25km outside the docking ring at which point you had run out of ammo. Then the real lulz came when you asked the support fleet if they had any spare Antimatter XL. gg lol, I can't even fly a moros You mean the alt post was completely full of crap??? Man, that's a shocker....
Sgt Napalm Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.11.28 01:35:00 - [104] Originally by: Wesley Baird Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Kyoi gg lol, I can't even fly a moros You mean the alt post was completely full of crap??? Man, that's a shocker.... Just another bitter ex-ISSN pilot laying into butter dog. It's the standard thing in these threads.
Ezoran DuBlaidd Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.11.29 12:35:00 - [105] Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Originally by: Cippalippus Primus Quite sad to see people like this, that don't have the guts to be independent even on a videogame. Coming from a paid for community, rolling into the game supported by that same base of people you're talking about being independent almost like you are. Did you hit your head? to the op, seriously dude, you were in ISS; what DID you expect? to ally, that's almost funny. but it's even more stupid than funny. solid liquid
Berrik Radhok GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.29 23:25:00 - [106] Originally by: Cippalippus Primus I don't know, but looking for PvP into ISS is like going in Saudi Arabia to watch topless girls.
Kojirochan Trinity Nova	Posted - 2007.11.30 10:21:00 - [107] I used to be a member of T-K-B and will also say a great corp. I also agree that it was mostly the same people who tried to rally up the troops and organise a defence against invaders.

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