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Weirdbob
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Posted - 2007.11.26 06:22:00 -
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You read the topic... Discuss.
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Jaikar Isillia
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2007.11.26 06:23:00 -
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No.
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.11.26 06:24:00 -
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Is this a minimalist whine about station hugging?
Originally by: David Hackworth ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
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Weirdbob
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Posted - 2007.11.26 06:31:00 -
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Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus Is this a minimalist whine about station hugging?
Yes, I guess today is the day that irritation finally brought me to the forums..
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Drokar Gazer
V i r u s
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Posted - 2007.11.26 06:45:00 -
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Edited by: Drokar Gazer on 26/11/2007 06:45:12 Perhaps if you have an issue with others docking, do not engage them at a station? It is your choice to engage, so don't complain. Stations are there to dock. If you are too unskilled at using pvp tactics then might i suggest mining?
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2007.11.26 06:57:00 -
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Originally by: Drokar Gazer Edited by: Drokar Gazer on 26/11/2007 06:45:12 Perhaps if you have an issue with others docking, do not engage them at a station? It is your choice to engage, so don't complain. Stations are there to dock. If you are too unskilled at using pvp tactics then might i suggest mining?
Let me guess, you go after miners then dock up as soon as they've gotten a combat ready ship.
Docking needs to be changed, it's a broken feature going on 5 years now.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Weirdbob
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Posted - 2007.11.26 07:41:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus
Let me guess, you go after miners then dock up as soon as they've gotten a combat ready ship.
Docking needs to be changed, it's a broken feature going on 5 years now.
Yes. Thank you. Also this is as much about my enemies docking as it is my allies docking. People should fight more.
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Laechyd Eldgorn
Caldari Karjala Inc. Onnenpyora
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Posted - 2007.11.26 07:55:00 -
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Atm everyone can dock. It seems pretty balanced. Except in 0.0. Nerf docking in 0.0.
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0101101101
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Posted - 2007.11.26 08:31:00 -
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Get a mach problem solved.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2007.11.26 09:08:00 -
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Originally by: Laechyd Eldgorn Atm everyone can dock. It seems pretty balanced. Except in 0.0. Nerf docking in 0.0.
Is it fun?
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Boomershoot
Caldari Insurgent New Eden Tribe Deus Ex.
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Posted - 2007.11.26 09:13:00 -
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Originally by: Laechyd Eldgorn Atm everyone can dock. It seems pretty balanced. Except in Low Sec. Nerf docking in Low Sec.
fix'd, because 0.0 docking is funny
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Tamia Clant
New Dawn Corp New Eden Research
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Posted - 2007.11.26 09:21:00 -
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I see many people complaining about the docking mechanic here, but I have yet to see anyone provide any suggestions to fix it. Where's the constructive criticism CCP keep asking about?
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Ayane Fang
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.11.26 09:25:00 -
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Ohh hai, since some people want docking nerfed, perhaps can we have turrets that shoot flowers? And missiles that blow up in big bubbles insted of explosions?
Ohh, and all avatars should look like "Hello Kitty"
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Mark Lucius
The Vinlanders SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.26 10:12:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus [...]
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2007.11.26 10:27:00 -
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Originally by: Tamia Clant I see many people complaining about the docking mechanic here, but I have yet to see anyone provide any suggestions to fix it. Where's the constructive criticism CCP keep asking about?
It's been suggested time and again, random docking directions well clear of the station, this removes the gridlocks as well as encourage station PvP and puts an end to station hugging as an olympic event.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Rellik B00n
Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.11.26 10:42:00 -
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Id like to see stations spit you out @ 15km the same as gates.
This seems fair, you warp to 0 one side, you take a chance the other.
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Weirdbob
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Posted - 2007.11.26 10:47:00 -
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Hmmm... I guess I should have actually made a point, what this was intended to be about was people staying docked in 0.0 while there was hostiles in system, ultimately this was probably the wrong place for this discussion but I still like whats been said so far.
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Neal Cassady
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2007.11.26 10:49:00 -
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aggro timer to dock/jump should be 120 seconds after de-agressing. would only improve gameplay. discuss.
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techzer0
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2007.11.26 10:53:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus
Originally by: Tamia Clant I see many people complaining about the docking mechanic here, but I have yet to see anyone provide any suggestions to fix it. Where's the constructive criticism CCP keep asking about?
It's been suggested time and again, random docking directions well clear of the station, this removes the gridlocks as well as encourage station PvP and puts an end to station hugging as an olympic event.
This. Although that completely ruins me being able to sit in one spot and bump people... wait... it gets rid of the need to bump completely. Are you suggesting that a giant station could have more than one undock and therefore be realistic? (Since bumping isn't... but it is necessary sometimes ) ____________________ Hi. I'm not an alt :) |

Gloups
Caldari Black Rampage
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Posted - 2007.11.26 10:59:00 -
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Docking is a lie.
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Neamus
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Posted - 2007.11.26 11:08:00 -
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wtf?
Ahem. Docking should be chance based, every time you fail on an attempt to dock your ship should explode.
You should have to drop 3 guns in order to fit "docking modules", and require at least one docking rig too. Hmm yes.. There should also be a set of skills for it, docking lvl 5 should take 6 months to train and require a charisma atribute of 35.
Wftpwnd by the station docking port.
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Gabriel Karade
Nulli-Secundus
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Posted - 2007.11.26 11:29:00 -
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Assuming this is what you are refering to; battles around station docking wells are marvellous, it often turns into a real game of cat & mouse, when you aren't sure what else is going to undock, who's going to aggress, appropriate target selection e.t.c...
As with a lot of things, it favours the smart, the bold, and those with a cool calculating head rather than the likes of:
"LOLZ WE OWNZ J00 WITH 20:1 U NOOBS!... OMG!! undock you *****s!!11..."
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.11.26 11:38:00 -
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Originally by: Neal Cassady aggro timer to dock/jump should be 120 seconds after de-agressing. would only improve gameplay. discuss.
Depend: if you mean for the aggressor, OK, but if it work for a target that has no fired a shot, NO.
It would make too easy to kill industrials: wait at a station, lock, fire anything even if it can do no damage, no hope for the target as it need to clear the station to warp away
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2007.11.26 15:56:00 -
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Originally by: Venkul Mul
Originally by: Neal Cassady aggro timer to dock/jump should be 120 seconds after de-agressing. would only improve gameplay. discuss.
Depend: if you mean for the aggressor, OK, but if it work for a target that has no fired a shot, NO.
It would make too easy to kill industrials: wait at a station, lock, fire anything even if it can do no damage, no hope for the target as it need to clear the station to warp away
Industrials have no place in a combat zone anyways and should go down like so much Hindenburg.
I don't get what's so fun and interesting about the docking game as one of the above posters claim, it's just a huge timesink for 0 fun, unless you're in it for the mad cackles about being untouchable as you re-dock as soon as someone's managed to get a lock on you.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Snake Doctor
MacroIntel United Corporations Against Macros
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Posted - 2007.11.26 16:05:00 -
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/miserable fail.
Sorry. I'm on a roll today. It's been a few weeks.
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Iyanah
Minmatar Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2007.11.26 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus Is this a minimalist whine about station hugging?
no, he's trying to be funny because of all the "nerf XYZ" threads out there.
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Anaalys Fluuterby
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.11.26 16:55:00 -
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Great, lets make it so that you can't dock either as aggressor or aggressed for 5 minutes. This "entices" PvP.
But I demand another change. If you shoot at someone at a station either docking or undocking and MISS, you have a chance to hit the station. If you hit the station, the station guns engage you AND you lose 5 faction points to the corporation that owns the station. Seriously, you are shooting people in their front lawn. Hit their house and they will dislike you forever.
Fair trade?
Originally by: CCP Chronotis
Since this thread continues to fight against the people who derail it into the macro miners witchhunt. I will move it to features and ideas discussion where ...
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miro hirisko
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Posted - 2007.11.26 17:31:00 -
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what this is really about is ppl crying over the fact that they can pwn everything that docks or undocks, basically they want a method of making sure everything is on there terms and theres no chance for ppl to defend them selves.
this is another pointless troll,to force ppl into pvp would be the wrong way for this game to go, i know a lot pf ppl want to remove sec staus and have one big free for all with no concord to stop there carebear killing.
ofc what they fail to rememeber is its these carebears that are building the mods and ships they use for there pirating, if everyone pvp¦s nothing will be built and everyone wil be fighting in noob ships. so get a grip the game mechanics on station hugging is fine pirates and agressors should not be the ones to have the advantage, there getting enough of that in trinity.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2007.11.26 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: miro hirisko what this is really about is ppl crying over the fact that they can pwn everything that docks or undocks, basically they want a method of making sure everything is on there terms and theres no chance for ppl to defend them selves.
this is another pointless troll,to force ppl into pvp would be the wrong way for this game to go, i know a lot pf ppl want to remove sec staus and have one big free for all with no concord to stop there carebear killing.
ofc what they fail to rememeber is its these carebears that are building the mods and ships they use for there pirating, if everyone pvp¦s nothing will be built and everyone wil be fighting in noob ships. so get a grip the game mechanics on station hugging is fine pirates and agressors should not be the ones to have the advantage, there getting enough of that in trinity.
Ehm, it's the pirates stationhugging we have a problem with.
My suggestion in no way means you have to fight every time you undock, it just means there's a chance/risk that there will be a fight when doing so and not just a waste of time.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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miro hirisko
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Posted - 2007.11.26 18:03:00 -
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mabye docking time should be dependent on sec status then. faster docking for those with higher slower if your in yellow or red. also standings to that factions staion should be taken into account.
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