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Adonis 4174	Posted - 2007.11.28 17:14:00 - [31] Originally by: highonpop i like the fact that WoW is bigger than EVE makes it more exclusive, and not so damn crowded. I've played WoW, and other BIG MMO's that are so crowded the almost lock up your computer just by walking through a town or something. ridiculous. Umm... Eve has more people logged in right now than any WoW server could handle without melting and crying tears of lava which you had to farm and collect seventeen of so you could get the new uberbelt of sadness to share in the server's pain at having so many people logged in. ----- "Why can't you just be friends?" -- Oveur
Paulo Damarr	Posted - 2007.11.28 17:23:00 - [32] Originally by: Angela Toren Stop comparing WOW to EVE, they are two completely different games in two completely different mmo genres This constant wow bashing is getting pathetic, grow up I agree WoW has no relevance to us so why should we care? If people want to play wizards and pixies let them. Originally by: Tortun Nahme CCP also condones thinking, I suggest you try it from tiem to time
William Darkk Gallente Vengeance of the Fallen Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.11.28 17:30:00 - [33] Edited by: William Darkk on 28/11/2007 17:30:47 Originally by: Angela Toren Stop comparing WOW to EVE, they are two completely different games in two completely different mmo genres This constant wow bashing is getting pathetic, grow up This. Also wow NPCs are immune from all attacks not coming from the ground, so you'd really need to wait for the atmospheric flight patch. -------------------------------------------------- <3 my Drones
DirtyHarry Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.11.28 18:05:00 - [34] You cannot compare these 2 games, they are completely different, the only similarity is that they are MMOG's. You can however compare success, both games active subscriber numbers are growing, EvE recently hit 200k active subs, and I believe a few months back WoW hit 9million active subs, so success wise they are a million miles apart. summery: op is a tard Please do not make false statements about forum moderators
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2007.11.28 18:07:00 - [35] Originally by: DirtyHarry You can however compare success, both games active subscriber numbers are growing, EvE recently hit 200k active subs, and I believe a few months back WoW hit 9million active subs, so success wise they are a million miles apart. Depends on how you can define success, really. I think that EVE's 200K subscribers could be compared, scale-wise, to WoW's 9 million active subscribers, especially after you take into account the fact that WoW has over 200 different servers (probably much more than that). I'd say that both are growing, profitable games, and each has a different vision that their owners are fulfilling well. ---------------- Tarminic - 29 Million SP in ~~pink~~ Forum Warfare
Orivanna	Posted - 2007.11.28 18:07:00 - [36] Edited by: Orivanna on 28/11/2007 18:09:54 I think it is safe to say that, as far as Blizzard is concerned, the only CCP that they know of is the China Communist Party, and that Eve is a character from the Bible.
NATMav F.R.E.E. Explorer Atrum Tempestas Foedus	Posted - 2007.11.28 18:14:00 - [37] Mr. T is definitely Brutor material. Farham: "Remember, sometimes evolution ends in extinction."
Haniblecter Teg F.R.E.E. Explorer Atrum Tempestas Foedus	Posted - 2007.11.28 18:14:00 - [38] Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: DirtyHarry You can however compare success, both games active subscriber numbers are growing, EvE recently hit 200k active subs, and I believe a few months back WoW hit 9million active subs, so success wise they are a million miles apart. Depends on how you can define success, really. I think that EVE's 200K subscribers could be compared, scale-wise, to WoW's 9 million active subscribers, especially after you take into account the fact that WoW has over 200 different servers (probably much more than that). I'd say that both are growing, profitable games, and each has a different vision that their owners are fulfilling well. The EVE NY Times article said that for the 3million or so US wow subsribers, they need 220 servers. 700+ for the entire WoW playerbase! ----------------- Friends Forever Kill. BoB. Dead.
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2007.11.28 18:16:00 - [39] Edited by: Tarminic on 28/11/2007 18:16:44 Originally by: Haniblecter Teg The EVE NY Times article said that for the 3million or so US wow subsribers, they need 220 servers. 700+ for the entire WoW playerbase! Means about 12K subscribers per server, so by that count EVE is three times as successful. Given the simple hardware configuration of Blizzard's servers however, I imagine that WoW is much more profitable per-player than EVE. ---------------- Tarminic - 29 Million SP in ~~pink~~ Forum Warfare
Leon Marchand	Posted - 2007.11.28 18:23:00 - [40] Apples & Oranges, Bananas & Coconuts and EVE and WoW. CCP doesn't look to WoW, nor does Blizzard look to EVE. Blizzard should keep an eye on WAR. On a sidenote: Star Trek Online "could" be maybe something that CCP needs to look at (but since there is almost no info on STO yet and the game will be released 2009 at the earliest, they really don't need to bother right now)
Miss Tigkill	Posted - 2007.11.28 18:26:00 - [41] Originally by: Mecinia Lua I really doubt they are up on what's going on in EVE. QFT But, its because they do not care... Eve is not WOW's competition...
Miss Tigkill	Posted - 2007.11.28 18:28:00 - [42] Originally by: Tarminic Edited by: Tarminic on 28/11/2007 18:16:44 Originally by: Haniblecter Teg The EVE NY Times article said that for the 3million or so US wow subsribers, they need 220 servers. 700+ for the entire WoW playerbase! Means about 12K subscribers per server, so by that count EVE is three times as successful. Maybe three times as efficient....but by no means is EVE more than three times as successful as WOW. The end game is...Whose wallet is bigger?
Jupiter Sun	Posted - 2007.11.28 18:29:00 - [43] Originally by: Adonis 4174 Originally by: highonpop i like the fact that WoW is bigger than EVE makes it more exclusive, and not so damn crowded. I've played WoW, and other BIG MMO's that are so crowded the almost lock up your computer just by walking through a town or something. ridiculous. Umm... Eve has more people logged in right now than any WoW server could handle without melting and crying tears of lava which you had to farm and collect seventeen of so you could get the new uberbelt of sadness to share in the server's pain at having so many people logged in. hahahahaha
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2007.11.28 18:39:00 - [44] Originally by: Miss Tigkill Originally by: Tarminic Edited by: Tarminic on 28/11/2007 18:16:44 Originally by: Haniblecter Teg The EVE NY Times article said that for the 3million or so US wow subsribers, they need 220 servers. 700+ for the entire WoW playerbase! Means about 12K subscribers per server, so by that count EVE is three times as successful. Maybe three times as efficient....but by no means is EVE more than three times as successful as WOW. The end game is...Whose wallet is bigger? I mentioned this earlier, but you have to consider what we're defining as success. I think that WoW is succeeding because it's making money and is fulfilling the vision it's creators had for it, and that EVE is succeeding for the same reasons. ---------------- Tarminic - 29 Million SP in ~~pink~~ Forum Warfare
Miss Tigkill	Posted - 2007.11.28 18:42:00 - [45] Edited by: Miss Tigkill on 28/11/2007 18:43:29 Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: Miss Tigkill Originally by: Tarminic Edited by: Tarminic on 28/11/2007 18:16:44 Originally by: Haniblecter Teg The EVE NY Times article said that for the 3million or so US wow subsribers, they need 220 servers. 700+ for the entire WoW playerbase! Means about 12K subscribers per server, so by that count EVE is three times as successful. Maybe three times as efficient....but by no means is EVE more than three times as successful as WOW. The end game is...Whose wallet is bigger? I mentioned this earlier, but you have to consider what we're defining as success. I think that WoW is succeeding because it's making money and is fulfilling the vision it's creators had for it, and that EVE is succeeding for the same reasons. Well, you compared the two, meaning that you tried to equate the two distinct definitions...When you did that, I disagreed.... To be sure, both are successful. WOW wins in subscribers, and in that they have larger revenue than many countries.
Nicho Void Hyper-Nova Tenth Legion	Posted - 2007.11.28 18:46:00 - [46] Has anyone seen the Eve Online commercial playing on G4-TV?
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2007.11.28 18:47:00 - [47] Originally by: Miss Tigkill To be sure, both are successful. WOW wins in subscribers, and in that they have larger revenue than many countries. Most definitely. If you compare subscriber numbers and total profits, WoW wins by a long shot I imagine. ---------------- Tarminic - 29 Million SP in ~~pink~~ Forum Warfare
Nicho Void Hyper-Nova Tenth Legion	Posted - 2007.11.28 18:57:00 - [48] Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: Nicho Void Has anyone seen the Eve Online commercial playing on G4-TV? Youtube link? Sorry, I've looked but couldn't find it. I haven't even seen it myself, but my roommate swears he saw one.
Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2007.11.28 19:01:00 - [49] I think EVE is crap because it doesn't look like those battles in films! I think EVE is crap because you can't drive cars like you can on Need for Speed!! I think EVE is crap because it haez moar players then hello kitty! Anyone else think those upper three examples look ridicilous? Alrighty then, case a bit like, closed? My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Tsanse Kinske WeMeanYouKnowHarm	Posted - 2007.11.28 19:10:00 - [50] Originally by: Adelorae24 CCP 1328 / Blizzard 0 Unfortunately I think the true score is closer to CCP: 200,000 / Blizzard 9,000,000 in WoW alone. For style points and though, CCP and EVE for the win. * * * In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. -Douglas Adams, writing about EVE
Shin Schei Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.28 19:42:00 - [51] Originally by: Leon Marchand On a sidenote: Star Trek Online "could" be maybe something that CCP needs to look at (but since there is almost no info on STO yet and the game will be released 2009 at the earliest, they really don't need to bother right now) Maybe not. Perpetual's had to liquidate and re-form itself as an LLC that's been bought out by an "unknown media company" that apparently wants to use STO as its first game. There are also rumors that they want to make it "more casual", but those are only rumors so far, and should be treated as such. Originally by: Celeste Coeval I'd ask for your stuff, but you'd probably get ganked on the way to dropping it off.
Maltitol Gallente Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.28 19:46:00 - [52] Originally by: Dalat Tay I still think we should fly a smartbombing BS fleet into WoW and start killing. Just to be sure. ...will take ages for concord to show up. I second this motion! Originally by: CCP Wrangler Well boohoo
Haradgrim Caldari The Wild Bunch INTERDICTION	Posted - 2007.11.28 21:02:00 - [53] First, I don't think Blizzard is worried, they've had a better ROI on that product than anyone there could have hoped for (probably by about 100%-1000%). So its safe to say that its very likely that Blizzard has reinvested that capital and will release upcoming products that will continue to boost its year-on-year profit as they have for a long time. Also, the new ads are most likely blizzard trying to up the games visibility directly before that all important holiday buying season, especially given competition from the XBOX 360, PS3, and Wii, which are really its competition not a small (albeit very good) game developer with some 200,000 active subscription to its Millions..... Not trying to put EVE down or downplay the significance or ZOMGWTFPWNBBQ-ness of the Trinity expansion and GFX upgrade, but it will take a pretty significant shift (and most likely the release of a third party game big enough to draw away a large portion of WoW's audience) to bring EVE in to competition with Blizzard. Your signature exceeds the byte me limit allowed on the forums-Darth Patches Oh Noes!
Malcanis High4Life SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.28 21:18:00 - [54] EvE is a niche game, and as such can deliver much more satisfying and involving fun to those who inhabit that niche than a mass-market game like WoW. Most people probably simply aren't interested in the level of self-education it takes to play EvE. You really do have to learn a fantastic amount - probably more than most people's jobs require, thinking about it. The learning curve is steep, and it doesn't stop. 14 months into the game, I'm still learning new things all the time. It's not about internet spaceships vs elves and orcs. It's about the depth and complexity of the experience. EvE is far more demanding than any other game I know of, and a lot of people simply don't want to meet that kind of demand in their leisure time. They don't find it fun, no matter what the advantages of involvement, excitement and realism are. So EvE can never compete with WoW; WoW can never compete with EvE. Just like the fancy 3-star resteraunt doesn't compete with the Burger King at the other end of the road. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Yakdawak Dasright	Posted - 2007.11.28 21:29:00 - [55] Originally by: Adonis 4174 Originally by: highonpop i like the fact that WoW is bigger than EVE makes it more exclusive, and not so damn crowded. I've played WoW, and other BIG MMO's that are so crowded the almost lock up your computer just by walking through a town or something. ridiculous. Umm... Eve has more people logged in right now than any WoW server could handle without melting and crying tears of lava which you had to farm and collect seventeen of so you could get the new uberbelt of sadness to share in the server's pain at having so many people logged in. yeah thats because EVE only runs off a few servers. WoW's overworld runs off 3 servers. How many servers are in the Tranquility Cluster?
Yakdawak Dasright	Posted - 2007.11.28 21:34:00 - [56] Originally by: Chris Supernova Originally by: highonpop i like the fact that WoW is bigger than EVE You mean EVE is bigger that WOW maybe ? Else what you wrote don't make sence at all, as many times I read it. big adjective 1. large, as in size, height, width, or amount Amount... as in amount of people. Size, as in total amount of servers that Blizzard has to run all of their WoW Realms. All in all, its 2 different games. Quit being condesending *******s. I used to play WoW, now i'm on EVE. I'm sure there's peeps that used to be in EVE and went to WoW.
Etchyboy Minmatar Firman AB 101010 Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.28 21:35:00 - [57] Originally by: Barakkus Originally by: Angela Toren Stop comparing WOW to EVE, they are two completely different games in two completely different mmo genres exactly, most of the people i play eq2 with have no interest in this type of game... Man I was soooo pumped for EQ2 when it first came out. I even spent the 100 bucks on the colletor addition. What a waste! The game really sucked and I ended up going back to EQ1. I am surprised that people still play EQ2.
Eksist	Posted - 2007.11.28 21:53:00 - [58] Sure, the two GAMES are comparable. They are both MMORPGs with very different approaches to what makes a game fun and very different user bases. However, the COMPANIES are NOT comparable. For example, if the WOW subscription rate ever dropped so far down as to be in the same range as the EVE subscription rate, Blizzard would simply close the WOW servers, take the BILLIONS of dollars in profit and code Starcraft Online. Sure, such a WOWesque game might not be our cup of tea, but recognize that Blizzard would probably make more money in the first year with Starcraft online than EVE will make in a decade. Blizzard is terrified of CCP the way that the NFL is terrified of water polo.
Abye Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.11.28 21:56:00 - [59] The typical average wow player pays an account but isn't actually playing that much, maybe 10 hours per week or even way less. Even when the raiding guilds dominate the media, they aren't the main cashcow. Those 10 hour players don't fit that much into Eve anyway. ___ CCP Garthagk: "And that is why GMs aren't DEVs"
Iota Belisarius Ion Corp. Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.28 22:28:00 - [60] Originally by: Dan Glebitts Originally by: Danae Melios I don't want a few million users in my nonsharded Eve cluster. Oh god yeah. Think of Jita, Oh why wont someone think of little Jita. People btch and moan about 800 people in the system...I wanna see how much they sht their pants when there's 800k. --------------------- Your sig is inappropriate. Please read the forum rules before reposting. -Tirg Sig jacked and nerfed in one day, just my luck.

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