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Hulkon	Posted - 2007.11.30 03:11:00 - [91] My first names Mister my middle names dot and my last name is T. And I'm a minmatar. (New eve add)
Trind2222 Amarr Celestial Pillagers Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.11.30 03:23:00 - [92] Edited by: Trind2222 on 30/11/2007 03:26:21 Originally by: Nito Musashi bottom line there are 10 D&D, wow clones or whatever you want to call them, or more per space mmo. Age of conan, warhammer online, guild wars 2, and i am sure i am forgetting 4 or 5 others that are due out 08 or 09 that have similiar gameplay or similiar setting to wow that are going to draw players from them. i mean how many time can you raid dungeon x for your l33t gear or how many arena basins can you do, or how many factions can you grind in wow for gear before you ask wth is it for? stuff to get stuff that you use to get other stuff and when i get all the stuff i can pwn people in pvp, because lets face it 70% of pvp in WoW is about gear and gear alone, other 30% is skill and playing your role. and when i get bored of stomping people with crap gear in pvp bliz will have another expansion so i grind for more gear. unless you are really in love with the treadmill play, you dont think any mmo that comes out is not going to get alot of players to bail out on wow? AoC and warhammer are probably the 2 biggest in the near future that will be a draw for wow players sick of wow or looking for something to bail for, both high profile and both have alot of hype if you follow all that, long as they dont utterly suck, like by some accounts LOTR did, you got to figure that most wowers are done with bc by now and gotta be getting sick of the raiding garbage. but i dont think trinity or any one game is going to slay wow by any means, they have 6 8 10 million or whatever players it would take a massive game to destroy wow and no one game probably would even make a real dent unless there upcoming games are truely so brilliant and so innovative that people flock to it in mass. Is true that games like age of conan will have have many coming from wow but eve have alot of players coming from wow. But many also come from other mmo to like ultimate online. There are many players in world many are cool many is dumb is always gonna be that way.
E Vile Fifth Exiled Legion SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.30 03:51:00 - [93] Originally by: Crumplecorn Becoming popular would kill EVE more surely than anything else. Blizzard can kill EVE anytime just by teaching a fraction of its playerbase how to play and sending them here. In the immortal words of Darth Vader "NooooOOOOOoooooooooooo!"
Paulo Damarr	Posted - 2007.11.30 03:53:00 - [94] Edited by: Paulo Damarr on 30/11/2007 03:53:11 Originally by: Gojyu Edited by: Gojyu on 30/11/2007 03:14:16 Originally by: Paulo Damarr Edited by: Paulo Damarr on 30/11/2007 02:41:56 Originally by: Abye The only mass market contender is Warhammer Online, but I guess EA will botch it with zero new stuff to get the people away from WoW. EA is manifested mediocrity. That's practically guaranteed never to happen, Games workshop keep an extremely tight rein on their licence and wont let anything "Un-Warhammer" be published, they exert tighter controls than even lucasarts and wont sell out. Its does cause problems with game development though. but the game will be an accurate representation of the Warhammer world. Firewarrior Firewarrior was a mediocre game definitely, but it wasn't bad certainly no less than some of the other shooters of its period like Red faction 1 & 2 it was just limited in its gameplay but it was a very accurate representation of the 40k Universe, I mean comon the cut scenes where pretty awesome. Originally by: Tortun Nahme CCP also condones thinking, I suggest you try it from tiem to time
Syrec Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2007.11.30 04:10:00 - [95] WoW = Waiting on Warhammer
Timaka Sun	Posted - 2007.11.30 04:20:00 - [96] But, the Wow people have teh epic spellz.
Jack Target The Graduates Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.11.30 04:50:00 - [97] Edited by: Jack Target on 30/11/2007 04:54:14 I think Patrick Stewart would be good in an advert for Eve.
Moraguth Amarr Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.11.30 05:57:00 - [98] Ya know.... if they mounted that smartbomb to a titan, and the wave emanated from the hull, not the center of mass, I'm pretty sure that would cover the whole thing. Hmmmmm..... how long is the amarr titan again? good game
Alpine 69 Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.11.30 07:06:00 - [99] Originally by: Angela Toren This constant wow bashing is getting pathetic, grow up Sweet love for the ones that mod my sig <3 From her? You're on. -Rauth
Mon eemakar	Posted - 2007.11.30 08:08:00 - [100] I have recently come to Eve from WoW. Eve seems like an interesting and dynamic world with a lot going for it although i've been playing 10 days so it is early days for me to make any judgement about the game. WoW on the other hand I know something about. It is a game that has managed to immerse people in PVE and now to a certain extent PVP gameplay for 3 years. It has over 9 million subsribers. It is an extremely well developed game and the most successful MMO of all time. Making a WOW vs EVE thread with statements about Blizzard's fear of Eve's new expansion is laughable and I'm sure CCP would think so too. Interestingly I read a statement from the lead developer of Warhammer who said that he did not think that Warhammer would be a serious threat to WoW. Statements, like those of the OP, smack more of jealousy and insecurity than serious polemic. Eve and WoW are good, successful games. That is all that can be said. If at first you don't succeed....don't try skydiving.
Kayna Eelai Gallente Shadow Legion Covenant Paxton Federation	Posted - 2007.11.30 08:11:00 - [101] Originally by: Adelorae24 Has anyone else seen these new WoW comercials with Mr. T and William Shatner??? They are obviously wetting themselves because when Trinity comes out their tired graphics, and repetitive gameplay will look even worse than they already do. CCP 1328 / Blizzard 0 Eve Pwns! WoW is dead! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA what a bunch of nonsense, hahaha. announcments like those are what makes the difference between eves 300K playerbase and wows 8.5M playerbase: because they are just and plain more commertial. wow won't lose a SINGLE PLAYER for trinity... because trinity is nothing mroe than a couple of fixes and nerfes and shiny new graphics... it's not that CCP added more "continents" or "10 more levels" like a wow expansion. trinity brings nothing that would make a wow player quit his game to come over. fixed to 23.15 kB (23710 bytes)
Kayna Eelai Gallente Shadow Legion Covenant Paxton Federation	Posted - 2007.11.30 08:14:00 - [102] Originally by: Paulo Damarr Ok im not going to get into the whole WOW v EVE thing but I have to post this, World of Warcraft Vs EVE oh how smart. u want us to compare a 2004 wow trailer to a 2007/2008 eve trailer? try again, smarta$$ fixed to 23.15 kB (23710 bytes)
Octaviun Finite Horizon Synchr0nicity	Posted - 2007.11.30 08:16:00 - [103] Edited by: Octaviun on 30/11/2007 08:16:27 Why do you people care so much about WoW vs EVE? like other people said its 9millon accounts who knows how many actual people and eve's 300,000 and 2 different games. blizzard doesn't care they have other games also they are bigger success then eve. _________________________________________________
Grentho Caldari Kids with Big Egos	Posted - 2007.11.30 09:32:00 - [104] you know theres only one way to settle this dont ya guys 2008 rumble in the freezer ccp devs v wow devs battle royal last man standing has the best mmo
Raem Civrie Sons of Enelaise Enelaise	Posted - 2007.11.30 09:44:00 - [105] Originally by: Adelorae24 Blizzard is terrified No they're not, not of CCP. A nichT MMO isn't going to ruin them. Their own design fallacies are. WTB Wing Blanket. ---- All roads lead to Catch
Nito Musashi	Posted - 2007.11.30 09:52:00 - [106] i shudder to think how tranq would run with 1 million nm 8 million people trying to login and play, bottom line CCP does not want WoW players here :P nor do we. While ccp i am sure would not mind a few more player subscriptions they would not even want to have WoWs player base nor could the servers handle it. CCP seems to be doing fine they could have charged us for this huge new update, they could put advertisements on the SciFi channel or cartoon network but i think they are comfortable with their current playerbase and growth as opposed for going full out media blitz and having the server implode.
Beor0d Congregatio Solidus Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.30 09:53:00 - [107] This flaming, bashing etc. reminds me in the WoW forums :( sad enough to see an adult playerbase behave like WoW players. And yup i agree to the fact that WoW is a completly other game and can't be compared to EVE. I just like eve a bit more due to the fact that its space based and have this great universe with the best skill system imo. _______________________ hmmm....
Hungo Minmatar Nightfallz	Posted - 2007.11.30 09:57:00 - [108] Originally by: Adelorae24 Has anyone else seen these new WoW comercials with Mr. T and William Shatner??? They are obviously wetting themselves because when Trinity comes out their tired graphics, and repetitive gameplay will look even worse than they already do. CCP 1328 / Blizzard 0 Eve Pwns! WoW is dead! wts clue, seriously, there new expansion is due out in January, eve is nowhere near a contender for wow, not now, not in the near future not ever, eve couldn't handle a million player's, the server would be down period get a clue - 100k subs on eve half of which are players alts and more alts, largest ever online 50k players and server sucked like ****. WOW - can do multiple chars at once. 9 million players worldwide and growing Get a clue
Nito Musashi	Posted - 2007.11.30 10:02:00 - [109] wow has what 7k 9k max per server? before you get login ques and junk? been awhile so my numbers might be off but not that far off. like to see 30,000 people on one wow server and see how it does :P.
Brutus Proqqus	Posted - 2007.11.30 10:12:00 - [110] The Burning Crusade did make a lot of ppl quit WoW tho :) Seems blizzard just needs to learn how to launch expansions like CCP does.
Hungo Minmatar Nightfallz	Posted - 2007.11.30 10:26:00 - [111] Originally by: Brutus Proqqus The Burning Crusade did make a lot of ppl quit WoW tho :) Seems blizzard just needs to learn how to launch expansions like CCP does. LOL - BC did not make alot of people quit u noob, if anything it brought more players to the game as they went up by half a million subs - lich king is set to bring in at least 4million more players based on marketing And as for launching expansions liek ccp, u mean completely screwing it up? having no clue what there doing? At least when u buy a wow expansion pack it actually works rather than some bloody thing on here that never works, lags and crashes. Get a clue
Nito Musashi	Posted - 2007.11.30 10:28:00 - [112] you really need to go back to wow since you think eve sucks so much. get podded much?
Sleepkevert	Posted - 2007.11.30 10:28:00 - [113] Originally by: Kayna Eelai Originally by: Paulo Damarr Ok im not going to get into the whole WOW v EVE thing but I have to post this, World of Warcraft Vs EVE oh how smart. u want us to compare a 2004 wow trailer to a 2007/2008 eve trailer? try again, smarta$$ It's not like WoW has changed a lot in the last couple of years?.... _______ Sign my sig!
Hungo Minmatar Nightfallz	Posted - 2007.11.30 10:30:00 - [114] Originally by: Nito Musashi you really need to go back to wow since you think eve sucks so much. get podded much? I play both, eve fri-Monday, three of us run a corp which is based on teamwork and during the week we have real LIVES to deal with so we play wow as u can play on ur own effectively. And i like eve and no i dont get podded, 65mil sp mate sorry to burst ur bubble, but eve does not compare to wow and half these idiots don't have a clue
Nito Musashi	Posted - 2007.11.30 10:34:00 - [115] i never would say that eve and wow are in competetion and the tc was way over the top but some of your comparisons are kinda silly never mind that you seem psychic and say the next wow expansion is going to add 4 million subs, doubtful with the other MMOs due out soon that they are going to add that many if they dont loose some.
Jolliejoe Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.30 10:45:00 - [116] Well, the trinity graphics look nice... Not next gen but nice... Hopefully they will look nicer with the dx10 engine.
Kayna Eelai Gallente Shadow Legion Covenant Paxton Federation	Posted - 2007.11.30 10:48:00 - [117] Originally by: Hungo Last sub coutn done by billzard topped 12 million players world wide across us/eu realms, aus being part of the us realms. Not to mention japan lol. hungo, you sound like a badass blizzard fanboi. while i LOVE wow and i think it's the greatest MMO ever (marketing and account wise) all i read from you sounds like crap. you apparently have no **ing clue about anything related to wow actually... in first place, EU+US is NOT worldwide. in second place, there is no wow in JAPAN as far as i know. my latest info points me to: Quote:** World of Warcraft is available in seven different languages and, in addition to North America and Europe, is played in mainland China, Korea, Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, Thailand, Malaysia, and the regions of Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Macau. so, stop being a fanboi... get your facts straight... and stop trying to compare both game the way you're doing it, because you are only making yourself look bad. fixed to 23.15 kB (23710 bytes)
Hungo Minmatar Nightfallz	Posted - 2007.11.30 10:50:00 - [118] Edited by: Hungo on 30/11/2007 10:53:48 I said not to mention Japan as in Untapped subs lol. But thanks for the response. I'm not a fanboi i simply recognize alot of problems in that CCP wont fix because god forbid the players, a small fraction of 0.0 whining kids mite just complain. Latest nerfs was all about kids ***ing about alliance avoiding choke points. Jump freighters? Bad idea. Drone nerfs? Again, because of server lag, don;t fix the servers or get decent ones, Just nerf more crap. And tbh, adding a bunch of crappy colours will make there game omg amazing? new paint jobs don't disguise the game problems and how ** eve can get at anyone time. Now tell me what problems along these lines wow has?
Kayna Eelai Gallente Shadow Legion Covenant Paxton Federation	Posted - 2007.11.30 11:04:00 - [119] Originally by: Hungo Now tell me what problems along these lines wow has? all of them and more? - i lost count on how many times classes have been nerfed, because "kids" whined too much. every single patch there are class nerfs of some sort - i lost count on how many times i had lag because of TELIA, blizzards european ISP. worst time was when i had to raidlead during 3 weeks with 5000ms ping. i was about to quit then, but they sorted it just the day before i my account was about to expire - i lost count on how many times blizzard gave us "free days" because of major screwups during or after a patch, their servers going down, hamsters dying or whatelse - i lost count of how many of my good old friends (mature players) left the game. some came back, some got just replaced by 10 new kiddie players. and still, blizzard is evolving faster and better than ccp. just a basic example that ****ed me off when it happened here last time: CCP, after 3-4 years... still has the website server and ingame database on same server. ergo if they shut down database servers because of a security problem, they can't even inform us on their web. oh and while a huge portion of wow players (which is a huge number of noobs) got troyans... i've never heard the slightest rumor of blizzard having security problems. and their dev team is much bigger than CCPs. eve has good things and bad things wow has good things and bad things technically both have suffered SAME problems still both are TOTALLY DIFFERENT GAMES. can we now stop doing stupid comparisons please? it's like trying to compare MMOs with REAL LIFE or like comparing VELOCITY with CARROTS fixed to 23.15 kB (23710 bytes)
Rhuyo	Posted - 2007.11.30 11:05:00 - [120] Originally by: Hungo Edited by: Hungo on 30/11/2007 10:53:48 I said not to mention Japan as in Untapped subs lol. But thanks for the response. I'm not a fanboi i simply recognize alot of problems in that CCP wont fix because god forbid the players, a small fraction of 0.0 whining kids mite just complain. Latest nerfs was all about kids ***ing about alliance avoiding choke points. Jump freighters? Bad idea. Drone nerfs? Again, because of server lag, don;t fix the servers or get decent ones, Just nerf more crap. And tbh, adding a bunch of crappy colours will make there game omg amazing? new paint jobs don't disguise the game problems and how ** eve can get at anyone time. Now tell me what problems along these lines wow has? Wow Also has whiners that demand a nerf for a certain class, then blizzard decides to nerf it into oblivion and keeps it nerfed for a few patches then buffs it again but not as it was before. So I think blizzard has problems aswell

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