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Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:29:00 -
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Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:35:00 -
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Stream of consciousness on the subject of population density:
I wish I knew how many temperate worlds there were per nation, but we can make an educated guess - according to [url]http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Planet#Temperate[/url] there are:
- 1,115 temperate planets in highsec (12% of all highsec planets)
- 714 in lowsec (10.3%)
- 3,129 in nullsec (10.5%)
- 2,242 in W-space. (10.6%)
focusing just on high and lowsec and the four main nations...
- Amarr Empire: 484 systems
- Caldari State: 503
- Gallente Federation: 507
- Minmatar Republic: 291
Using the average incidence of temperate worlds (11.15%), we can guess roughly how many of those systems are likely to have a temperate world in them:
- Amarr: 54
- Caldari: 56
- Gallente: 56
- Minmatar: 32
Include a generous margin of error, obviously.
Now, here's the part where the numbers fall apart for me. because if the Amarr Empire were to have "several trillion" citizens living in it - let's say, for the sake of an argument, three trillion...
3 trillion divided by 54 = 55,555,555,555.56 people per planet.
If the Republic were to have a single trillion citizens, then that's 31.25 billion people per world.
Earth is already getting cosy at a "mere" seven billion.
And this is all averages. Bear in mind these include the figures for lowsec worlds, which are likely to have smaller populations than big highsec core worlds like Amarr or Gallente Prime.
All of which means that I reckon the "several trillion" figure being bandied around is a touch optimistic.
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Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2012.04.03 13:21:00 -
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Publius Valerius wrote:let say if count the same number of Barran and Moons as temperate worlds...
Let's say we don't, on account of how there's no city lights all over the night side of a barren world or a moon.
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Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2012.04.03 14:04:00 -
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all of this would be a LOT easier if we could just have an accurate count of how many planets of each type exist under each sovereignty.
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Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2012.04.03 14:33:00 -
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please see my last post.
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Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2012.04.03 15:11:00 -
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Publius Valerius wrote:Amarr has than 673 temperate planets.
There are only 702 Amarrian systems total between highsec and lowsec.
if there are 674 amarrian temperate planets, that would mean that 96% of all Amarrian systems contain one temperate (ignoring for a second that a few of them have two or more)
this is patently not the case.
So. in order for this to be easy and simple, what we actually need are the database figures to say "there are X many temperate worlds in Amarr Empire systems, Y many in Gallente Federation systems..." and so on.
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Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2012.04.03 22:47:00 -
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Publius Valerius wrote:And before you start your next post... plz answer the question what you have calculate.
I would if I understood the question. I don't want to rip on you if English isn't your first language or anything, so I'll just let it stand at saying that sentence doesn't make much sense.
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Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2012.04.04 08:20:00 -
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okay, gonna work through my logic here...
We know how many temperate worlds there are in Empire space (high sec and low sec)
We know how many planets total there are in Empire space.
We therefore know the percentage of Empire space worlds which are temperate - 11.2%
If only 11.2% of E-space planets are temperate, then only 11.2% of E-space systems contain a temperate world, right?
Except that's wrong, because It assumes only one planet per system.
Derp.
The reason I'm wrong is because I was forgetting to factor in that there are multiple planets per system, each with an 11.2% probability of being a temperate.
Let's have a wild guess at this and say that the average number of planets per system is 8.5
We're not after specific combinations, so we have an (11.5 x 8)% probability per system that it's going to have at least one temperate world in it.
0.112 x 8.5 = 0.952 = 95.2%. 95.2% of 702 is 668, after rounding.
If we do it your way, and the empire is 36% of all systems and therefore 36% of all planets, and there are 1829 temperate worlds in E-space, then the empire actually controls 673 temperate worlds or, in other words, a temperate world in 95.9% of all their systems.
668 = X
673 = Y
3,000,000,000,000 / X = 4,491,000,000
3,000,000,000,000 / Y = 4,458,000,000
average of those two = 4,474,500,000
you're right, 4.47 billion people per planet on average doesn't sound so ridiculous, especially when you consider that Earth currently stands at 7 billion..
it's nice to be proven wrong. then you can stop  thanks!
An in-character blog and a video:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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