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Lance Brute	Posted - 2007.11.27 20:18:00 - [1] I need a ship idea to take down a claw, who uses autocannons, a fitting would be great as well :) Any help or links would be great
Miss KillSome Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2007.11.27 20:27:00 - [2] hugin? rapier? any BS with dual overheats webs. crow. blaster taranis. arazu, lachesis. . . .
Lance Brute	Posted - 2007.11.27 20:29:00 - [3] Minnie preferably, and I can't fly recon ships or overheat my modules
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova	Posted - 2007.11.27 20:31:00 - [4] dual web AC stabber. fit D180's or 220's. --- planetary interaction idea!
Elaina Marie	Posted - 2007.11.27 20:35:00 - [5] Originally by: Miss KillSome hugin? rapier? any BS with dual overheats webs. crow. blaster taranis. arazu, lachesis. . . . Huginn/Rapier canned answer for any inty kill. Amazing answer. Any BS with a web, if you read, he says an autocannon claw, the claw is going to be within web range. Crow? Please, my claw will BBQ any crow that doesn't have billions of isk invested in it. ranis? only if the ranis pilot knows what he is doing, and even then it will be a close fight. otherwise, the claw will bbq the ranis. Razu, and Lach? Maybe, but they can't keep up with the claw so he will get away. Best bet would be a rupture or stabber with a web. I would go with the rupture.
Stuart Price Caldari Havoc Inc	Posted - 2007.11.27 20:42:00 - [6] Edited by: Stuart Price on 27/11/2007 20:43:17 You want to kill all known interceptors dead? You need a Harpy my son. t2 75mm's (yes, 75's) t2 launcher with precision missiles (damage to taste) fleeting web, t2 ab, t2 disruptor, t2 MSE t2 damage mods (or one damage mod, one tracking mod to be sure) anti-em rig, any other random rig (I went with thrusters for a laugh) Get some antimatter and either some lead or iridium (depending on skills, you want to be able to hit at 24km). Laugh as they come within range and get utterly mashed up by your magical tracking abilities. If they come within web range laugh harder and switch to antimatter. I was messing about with some corpmates and was getting excellent hits on a Crow moving 6km/s in orbit at 20km. So if your target is an autocannon claw he'll be within web range, most likely without his own web so he won't be able to escape. Then just turn on ze weapons and lol. EDIT: If you want even more shields, switch a low for a MAPC and the AB for another t2 MSE to get about 3500 shields. On a frig. "I got soul but I'm not a soldier"
Lance Brute	Posted - 2007.11.27 20:45:00 - [7] Thanks to all the answers, I think I've got the bugger mashed now :)
Laerise Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.27 20:55:00 - [8] You can use an Omen. And, no, I am serious, I have the KM to prove it.
Slayton Ford STK Scientific Black-Out	Posted - 2007.11.27 21:06:00 - [9] Originally by: Lance Brute Minnie preferably, and I can't fly recon ships or overheat my modules Hell, a decent fitted Jag w/ a Kin Amp rig should be fine. --------------- This sig has been censored in fear of recieving the ban hammer...
Dark Vlitzer	Posted - 2007.11.27 21:07:00 - [10] any destroyer with decent gunnery..
Alowishus Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.27 21:35:00 - [11] Edited by: Alowishus on 27/11/2007 21:35:20 You have the distinct advantage of knowing he's going to be within web range. Your possibilities are endless to counter him but I'd suggest a cruiser because you can use Medium Nos which will suck him dry in moments. No cap means no MWD, no MWD means you don't need 800 webs, but one. I suggest this: 1x Rupture 4x Dual 180mm 2x Medium Nos 1x 10MN MWD 1x Web 1x Disruptor 5x Nano/Overdrive/I-Stab/Whatever 5x Light Drones I use this setup to take down anything from T1 frigs on up to AFs and Interdictors. You run into trouble only when they are able to stay out of Nos range (and thusly, also web range). A Stabber would be a reasonable choice as well. Pretty much anything that can fit dual Medium Nos and a MWD/Web/Scram will do.
Volir Deep Space HVAC	Posted - 2007.11.27 22:57:00 - [12] A badger can probably do it.
Hardtail Red Dawn Empire Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.11.28 01:30:00 - [13] Edited by: Hardtail on 28/11/2007 01:32:43 Originally by: Elaina Marie Originally by: Miss KillSome hugin? rapier? any BS with dual overheats webs. crow. blaster taranis. arazu, lachesis. . . . Huginn/Rapier canned answer for any inty kill. Amazing answer. Any BS with a web, if you read, he says an autocannon claw, the claw is going to be within web range. Crow? Please, my claw will BBQ any crow that doesn't have billions of isk invested in it. ranis? only if the ranis pilot knows what he is doing, and even then it will be a close fight. otherwise, the claw will bbq the ranis. Razu, and Lach? Maybe, but they can't keep up with the claw so he will get away. Best bet would be a rupture or stabber with a web. I would go with the rupture. you mean, a crow thats invested about as much money as a claw needs to spend in order to wtfpwn regular t2 fitted crows? nice logic there bud
6Bagheera9 Slacker Industries Cult of War	Posted - 2007.11.28 01:50:00 - [14] Not too hard to kill an AC claw, no webb puts a lot of pressure on its pilot.
Cerui Tarshiel Minmatar Fabulous Soulcatchers Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium	Posted - 2007.11.28 02:53:00 - [15] Originally by: Stuart Price Edited by: Stuart Price on 27/11/2007 20:43:17 You want to kill all known interceptors dead? You need a Harpy my son. t2 75mm's (yes, 75's) t2 launcher with precision missiles (damage to taste) fleeting web, t2 ab, t2 disruptor, t2 MSE t2 damage mods (or one damage mod, one tracking mod to be sure) anti-em rig, any other random rig (I went with thrusters for a laugh) Get some antimatter and either some lead or iridium (depending on skills, you want to be able to hit at 24km). Laugh as they come within range and get utterly mashed up by your magical tracking abilities. If they come within web range laugh harder and switch to antimatter. I was messing about with some corpmates and was getting excellent hits on a Crow moving 6km/s in orbit at 20km. So if your target is an autocannon claw he'll be within web range, most likely without his own web so he won't be able to escape. Then just turn on ze weapons and lol. EDIT: If you want even more shields, switch a low for a MAPC and the AB for another t2 MSE to get about 3500 shields. On a frig. Unfortunaly I can personally attest to the effectiveness of that setup I would personally reccomend a thrasher with 250mm artillery cannons, dual webbs and a tracking enhancer and a gyrostab. By the time he realises something is a wee bit wrong he's dead :P
Felony Assualt Pastry Coalition	Posted - 2007.11.28 05:45:00 - [16] Nobody said use a claw of your own yet. Do that or a vexor, vexor will pwn the **** out of it if its in web range like you said well that and every other af/inty.
Talasan Internet Dads Division of Eden	Posted - 2007.11.28 07:43:00 - [17] thrasher 7 x 280mm T2 disruptor, 2 sensor boosters 2 damage mods prob take 2 or 3 volleys, depending if its plated "minmatar got the shaft again? sure ill bend over right away"
Cpt Branko The Bloody Red	Posted - 2007.11.28 09:30:00 - [18] Rupture with D180s II (or 220s, I just have a thing for 180s). Missiles, although if you want to specifically and particularly kill a claw, use two neuts and kill its MWD and tackle. Good web, MWD, disturptor two gyrostabs, 800mm plate (or 1600, i prefer the 800), DC I/II, EANM I/II. See, the claw has no web. So there is no concieveable way it will go fast enough in webrange to speedtank you, who are about three times faster then a webbed Claw. Also, webbed claw going some 400-500m/s and with huge sig radius from the MWD is going to get muredered by a couple of D180s very, very fast.
Admiral Hayes Caldari Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation	Posted - 2007.11.28 10:35:00 - [19] i like my autocannon crusader whit 5 k armor :)
Lt Angus Caldari the united	Posted - 2007.11.28 11:15:00 - [20] Originally by: Hardtail Edited by: Hardtail on 28/11/2007 01:32:43 Originally by: Elaina Marie Originally by: Miss KillSome hugin? rapier? any BS with dual overheats webs. crow. blaster taranis. arazu, lachesis. . . . Huginn/Rapier canned answer for any inty kill. Amazing answer. Any BS with a web, if you read, he says an autocannon claw, the claw is going to be within web range. Crow? Please, my claw will BBQ any crow that doesn't have billions of isk invested in it. ranis? only if the ranis pilot knows what he is doing, and even then it will be a close fight. otherwise, the claw will bbq the ranis. Razu, and Lach? Maybe, but they can't keep up with the claw so he will get away. Best bet would be a rupture or stabber with a web. I would go with the rupture. you mean, a crow thats invested about as much money as a claw needs to spend in order to wtfpwn regular t2 fitted crows? nice logic there bud a tech1 fitted claw will kill a crow no problem Shhhh, Im hunting Badgers
ThaDollaGenerale R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out	Posted - 2007.11.28 14:07:00 - [21] nano-avatar Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
Dr Fighter	Posted - 2007.11.28 14:24:00 - [22] Vagabond.
Reem Fairchild Minmatar Military Industrial Research	Posted - 2007.11.28 14:54:00 - [23] I came close to killing a Claw in a Rifter once. Miraculously he managed to get out of my web range and flee with something like 20% of his structure left. I was ****ed.
Greenbolt Minmatar Universal Exports	Posted - 2007.11.28 16:40:00 - [24] Edited by: Greenbolt on 28/11/2007 16:40:54 About 8 months ago a Claw dropped on my rupture while I was in a belt. I had 220s T1, nos ,MWD, Dual Web 1 gyro low and some crap T1 tank (We had been hunting a vagabond and I was in a cheap webber ship). He mwd within web range..i dual webbed and popped him before he realized I didnt have a scrambler running. dual webs do very nasty things to Auto interceptors. --------------------------------------------------- Scordite -Who was it that said that flying minmatar is kinda like going down a flight of stairs on an office chair while firing an uzi?
Tearavygh Quillam Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.28 16:49:00 - [25] The easiest I see if you're in a BS or Curse. You need a heavy neut/med neut, a 24km scram and t2 warriors. Scram it, wait for the warriors to chase, activate neut and boom. It will be under 20km as it usually can't lock past that.
Alowishus Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.28 17:01:00 - [26] Talk about overkill. It's an AC Claw, he'll be in web range. No need for a Heavy Nuet or fancy Nos bonuses. One or two Medium Nos will work. Any cruiser that can fit two Medium Nos and some guns, or some drones, will work. It's not rocket science. Arty Claw might be a different story, which is what I'd fly because Ceptors don't belong in Web range unless the target is jammed.
Tearavygh Quillam Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.28 17:09:00 - [27] Edited by: Tearavygh Quillam on 28/11/2007 17:15:03 My bad. I didn't read AC Claw. Carry on. But then, what's the purpose of getting into web range, when you have no web and the only ships you could kill in a Claw would be haulers and useless frigs. Definitely, if you're in a gang, there's no use to go into web range or try to use ACs on this ship, just to risk it. Long story short, I wouldn't go into web range with a Claw.
pushdogg Minmatar Raider corp	Posted - 2007.11.28 17:15:00 - [28] for all you guys proposing a BS for this you are absurd.....from the way it sounds, this is a solo claw, and a bs would NEVER EVER catch a solo claw, just due to the fact that a solo claw wouldnt engage a bs, and a tackling claw woulndt be an AC claw so a BS is just stupid, further more if skills permit i would suggest an interdictor or nicely fitted destroyer, even if the destroyer had short range weps, he is using ac's so he will be close anyway:), an AF is always a good choice, although the only thing i think i would engage a claw in are ishkur or wolf, maybe a jag, i know ive killed my fair share of vengence and hawks to know that ammar and caldari af's are a little meh. next i want to say that i have lost 2, yes 2 claws in all the time ive flown them. once to an osprey(flame away) and another to an arbitrator, which leads me to my suggestion use another inty or a cruiser sized craft with a 90% web and he is toast:) best sig ever:) Originally by: Soul Harvestor You're an idiot.
Tearavygh Quillam Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.28 17:19:00 - [29] Originally by: pushdogg for all you guys proposing a BS for this you are absurd.....from the way it sounds, this is a solo claw, and a bs would NEVER EVER catch a solo claw. Never say never, because in this case I can say Xelios was trying to play with my alt in a belt in Geminate a year ago. He was in a Claw and I wish I had a nos and a scram on my Raven. Also, walls of text are not easy to read as well as using the word "stupid".
claire stef	Posted - 2007.11.28 17:33:00 - [30] Nyx

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