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DHB WildCat BURN EDEN	Posted - 2007.11.27 22:30:00 - [1] With the nerf patch that is coming out in the near future what will people fit to thier ships with an extra mid slot? Do you remember when phased muons were under a mil because noone realized what they were or how good they were? Well in my opinion the "Cetus" ECM Burst is going to be the next module after the patch..... Why? Because with good skills on a ship like the Domi, you get a strength of over ten. What does this mean? A rook with RACIAL jammers and deascent skills gets a strength in the mids 9's. So you get a mod that jams better than a rook, and can be set to any ship. From personal experience I can guarantee this mod will jam near 2 out of 3 activations. Enjoy 8) WildCat
Ask Unbeatable Gallente HighTech Marines Ltd.	Posted - 2007.11.27 22:32:00 - [2] Not the greatest for gangs though
General Coochie New Justice Minuit.	Posted - 2007.11.27 22:33:00 - [3] Does it break lock for 12 seconds or simply just breaks the lock? -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Sig originally by Kel Solaar Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
Thargorr Brutor tribe	Posted - 2007.11.27 22:35:00 - [4] It just breaks the lock and the capuse is horrendous. Think running a medium rep or MWD full time...
Emperor D'Hoffryn No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2007.11.27 22:38:00 - [5] Originally by: Thargorr It just breaks the lock and the capuse is horrendous. Think running a medium rep or MWD full time... not a big deal for a Battleship, and as i forsee DHB running this on his raven cap shouldnt be a problem... isnt the range horrible tho? perhaps an oh crap mod for nano ships? Originally by: Snuggly It's just so great to have an actual reason to not die, incentive is fantastic!
IHurricane Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.11.27 22:43:00 - [6] This and couple of locking time damps, could be very effective. ---------------------------------------
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova	Posted - 2007.11.27 22:44:00 - [7] wildcat, you got something wrong tho. it doesn't jam. it only breaks locks. --- planetary interaction idea!
DHB WildCat BURN EDEN	Posted - 2007.11.27 22:45:00 - [8] Anything that breaks a lock I consider a jammer, and like it was said this with 2 or 3 damps for lock time 8). The new curse set-up?
Mikelio Raijan Sulithus	Posted - 2007.11.27 22:48:00 - [9] Originally by: DHB WildCat Anything that breaks a lock I consider a jammer, and like it was said this with 2 or 3 damps for lock time 8). The new curse set-up? ...does it still make your own drones attack you? I thought that was the reason nobody used it.
DHB WildCat BURN EDEN	Posted - 2007.11.27 22:52:00 - [10] LOL, no I use it in a domi and it does not make your drones shoot you.

Guillame Herschel Gallente Cheers Restaurant and Bar Coalition Of Empires	Posted - 2007.11.27 22:54:00 - [11] Originally by: DHB WildCat LOL, no I use it in a domi and it does not make your drones shoot you. Well Hell, then it won't make your repair drones repair you, either. -- Guile can always trump hardware --
Mikelio Raijan Sulithus	Posted - 2007.11.27 22:56:00 - [12] I'll be checking this one out then asap.
PolyTensor	Posted - 2007.11.27 23:00:00 - [13] Edited by: PolyTensor on 27/11/2007 23:03:59 when was the whine bandwaggon departing ? looks like i missed it..... grab some extra packages of tissues at your local discounter. what is up with you guys lately? all things i read from burn eden are whines. what do you do when there will be a speed nerf? cancel all your 150 accounts?
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.27 23:09:00 - [14] Edited by: Goumindong on 27/11/2007 23:12:14 It just breaks lock, so you need a couple damps to make it really usefull due to its long cycle time. This makes it really hard to be a "solo-pwn" module because you would need at least one, maybe two damps to make it usefull. This means you are looking at mwd, web, scram, burst, damp. Which if 5 meds and doesnt let you use an active tank. 6 for an injector to run an active tank, and 7 if you want two damps. ED: It would be O.K. without a damp, but only agaisnt ships with slow locking times, and all the ships that have slow locking times have strong sensor strengths, so you are looking at 1 jam every 60 seconds maybe keeping them from locking you for 5-10 seconds, which is a 9% reduction in incoming DPS if they have no drones. I think that we are safe from the scourge of ECM bursting solo-pwn mobiles.
madaluap Gallente Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2007.11.27 23:11:00 - [15] Edited by: madaluap on 27/11/2007 23:12:09 Originally by: Goumindong It just breaks lock, so you need a couple damps to make it really usefull due to its long cycle time. This makes it really hard to be a "solo-pwn" module because you would need at least one, maybe two damps to make it usefull. This means you are looking at mwd, web, scram, burst, damp. Which if 5 meds and doesnt let you use an active tank. 6 for an injector to run an active tank, and 7 if you want two damps. I think that we are safe from the scourge of ECM bursting solo-pwn mobiles. ECM bursts arent bad and will be valuable, but naming it the new i-win module. naah.... Personally i think the current i-win modules are the damagecontrol and to some extend mwd's. _________________________________________________ Breetime A killmail!11!1 omgrawr: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.27 23:14:00 - [16] Wait, damage controls and MWDs are the new i win modules? Where have I been the last year? And yea, they are still usefull, i was just addressing the "solo-pwn" part of the post. Unfortunatly they arent still able to break the lock of sieged capitals. Why in the world did CCP "fix" that after their devs came out saying it was intended?
DHB WildCat BURN EDEN	Posted - 2007.11.27 23:22:00 - [17] Not a whine just an out-of box tactic that may be viable, Im sharing, no where in my post am I whining.... once again omg Burn Eden flame him. 8) WildCat
madaluap Gallente Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2007.11.27 23:27:00 - [18] Edited by: madaluap on 27/11/2007 23:28:19 Originally by: DHB WildCat Not a whine just an out-of box tactic that may be viable, Im sharing, no where in my post am I whining.... once again omg Burn Eden flame him. 8) WildCat Its not omg BE lets flame. Its more, omg look @ all the orange, flame him. I just got an idea. What about 5* dampdrones + ecm burst? I does break the lock of the drones, but they lock the target back instantly. dampdrones arent splitted in range and lockingspeed, so this must kickass. Maybe combined with the meta drones coming out of the drone regions this can be potentially i-win. ECM burst + 5* medium damp deimos? _________________________________________________ Breetime A killmail!11!1 omgrawr: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Compendium	Posted - 2007.11.27 23:33:00 - [19] ECM bursts have the problem of causing concord to blow your ship up if you hit anything not your corporation's with it. That's why not many people use smartbombs in high sec.
Kai Jyokoroi The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.11.27 23:39:00 - [20] Originally by: Compendium ECM bursts have the problem of causing concord to blow your ship up if you hit anything not your corporation's with it. That's why not many people use smartbombs in high sec. and this would affect pvpers why? _____________ Only two things are infinite - the universe, and the amount of people who have the same god-damned Einstein quote as their forum sig, and I'm not too sure about the former.

Shiken Kan	Posted - 2007.11.27 23:40:00 - [21] range of the module is something like 9km with skills and modules don't help em so i guess that's a rather bad i-win button. also you can only use 1 and with a max strength of 9 you maybe get a 30% chance to break the lock of a bs while draining quite a lot of cap thus lowering your own offense and defense. i guess you're better off with a target painter on almost any setup.
Terianna Eri Amarr STK Scientific Black-Out	Posted - 2007.11.27 23:50:00 - [22] Originally by: madaluap Edited by: madaluap on 27/11/2007 23:28:19 Originally by: DHB WildCat Not a whine just an out-of box tactic that may be viable, Im sharing, no where in my post am I whining.... once again omg Burn Eden flame him. 8) WildCat Its not omg BE lets flame. Its more, omg look @ all the orange, flame him. I just got an idea. What about 5* dampdrones + ecm burst? I does break the lock of the drones, but they lock the target back instantly. dampdrones arent splitted in range and lockingspeed, so this must kickass. Maybe combined with the meta drones coming out of the drone regions this can be potentially i-win. ECM burst + 5* medium damp deimos? Would this be any better than locking time damp + 5x medium ECM drones? __________________________________
arbalesttom Caldari Glauxian Brothers	Posted - 2007.11.27 23:55:00 - [23] Can you please stop posting in annoying colours? * * Nice hamster! - Mindstar Sorry, that hamster ate your sig.. - Random Guy123 Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
Compendium	Posted - 2007.11.28 00:01:00 - [24] Edited by: Compendium on 28/11/2007 00:06:08 Originally by: Kai Jyokoroi and this would affect pvpers why? Can't pvp when concord destroys your ship, can you? There are usually many other people around gates/stations, the station/gate itself, or you could also hit one of the NPC ships that orbit them. ECM burst or smartbombs in high sec is almost suicide. Belts? You hit one of those hundreds of cans floating around many belts, concord comes.
madaluap Gallente Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2007.11.28 00:05:00 - [25] Edited by: madaluap on 28/11/2007 00:06:14 Originally by: Terianna Eri Originally by: madaluap Edited by: madaluap on 27/11/2007 23:28:19 Originally by: DHB WildCat Not a whine just an out-of box tactic that may be viable, Im sharing, no where in my post am I whining.... once again omg Burn Eden flame him. 8) WildCat Its not omg BE lets flame. Its more, omg look @ all the orange, flame him. I just got an idea. What about 5* dampdrones + ecm burst? I does break the lock of the drones, but they lock the target back instantly. dampdrones arent splitted in range and lockingspeed, so this must kickass. Maybe combined with the meta drones coming out of the drone regions this can be potentially i-win. ECM burst + 5* medium damp deimos? Would this be any better than locking time damp + 5x medium ECM drones? Well i did say 'potentially i-win'. Damps arent just nerfed, they are double nerfed. They lose or the locking time or the lockingrange and about 30% efficiency on top. It comes down to weither the ECM burst + damp drones will perform better than a locking time damp and 5* ecm drones. Im not a mathgod, so im not sure which one would work the best vs, for example, a battlecruiser. We will see after the patch which tactic becomes the most valuable. _________________________________________________ Breetime A killmail!11!1 omgrawr: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Panteroid Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.11.28 00:13:00 - [26] I like where DHB is going with this but... I see just a few problems: As it stands, you have an couple slots, fit a couple damps. With 3 damps, you could totally erase someones lock. Most ships only have room for 1-2 damps, some manage to squeeze on 3. Now with your proposed idea, you will need the ecm burst, and probably 2 damps to make it viable. 1 damp would do decent, but 2 is probably necessary. You must come into close range, so the lock range isn't a factor. It is a good chance base, but it is still chance based. Some may say fit 2 bursts.. well then you are down another mid slot, or maybe you don't have the slot to use. Not to mention more cap useage. I am guessing you are to use this on a heavily mid slot laden ship cough raven cough. If that is the case, I can see many viable setups, 2 damps 2 bursts, 3 damps 1 burst etc.. So what is the point of this... It requires more slots and more cap to effectively do, you really can't do it on anything smaller than a well cap tanked BC. As for the raven.. I can see many ticked off people being dictor bubbled with ravens wtf jamming/damping them in many 0.0 entry points soon compliments of BE.
Big Monkey DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.28 03:36:00 - [27] Edited by: Big Monkey on 28/11/2007 03:40:52 Originally by: Compendium Edited by: Compendium on 28/11/2007 00:06:08 Originally by: Kai Jyokoroi and this would affect pvpers why? Can't pvp when concord destroys your ship, can you? There are usually many other people around gates/stations, the station/gate itself, or you could also hit one of the NPC ships that orbit them. ECM burst or smartbombs in high sec is almost suicide. Belts? You hit one of those hundreds of cans floating around many belts, concord comes. God you really can tell who lives in hisec, can't you? Edit - Meaning that not all pvp happens in hisec lol.
Aravel Thon	Posted - 2007.11.28 04:18:00 - [28] Originally by: Compendium Edited by: Compendium on 28/11/2007 00:06:08 Originally by: Kai Jyokoroi and this would affect pvpers why? Can't pvp when concord destroys your ship, can you? There are usually many other people around gates/stations, the station/gate itself, or you could also hit one of the NPC ships that orbit them. ECM burst or smartbombs in high sec is almost suicide. Belts? You hit one of those hundreds of cans floating around many belts, concord comes. Go into low sec/0.0 much?
Phoenicia Black Sea Industries Cult of War	Posted - 2007.11.28 05:05:00 - [29] 6000 mtr range 6000 mtr falloff That is why this will not become an iWin button. Unless the ranges change?
MalVortex	Posted - 2007.11.28 05:10:00 - [30] They would be great if you could have more than one running at a time and had greater range to them. Limiting it to 1 burst running at ~9km is... weak. Theres no actual "jam" to it, just a target break, so you need scan res dampeners. Now we have 3 modules dedicated to trying to pseudojamn 1 target under 9km, at a high cap cost to boot. Throw on web + scram and now were at 5 mids, 6 mids required if you want a mwd, 7 if you want an injector... As it currently stands, I think ecm bursts just have too many drawbacks to see much of any use. I'd personally be in favor of giving them 25km range with max skills and allow more than one to run at once. It would make for a great "break the lock and go to warp" module.



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