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LUH 3471	Posted - 2007.11.28 00:18:00 - [1] Edited by: LUH 3471 on 28/11/2007 00:22:07 amd athlon xp 3ghz 1024mb ram geforce 7600 running trinity with 1680x1050 all high (hdr enabled) at 16 fps in station looks like i need more ram or a new machine how is it running for you ?
Crux Australis MotorSaikol LadrUNZ Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.28 00:22:00 - [2] Edited by: Crux Australis on 28/11/2007 00:32:51 Radeon x1950 Intel Dual Core 2,66 GHz 2gb ddr 400 Tried with maximum shading and i got 50 fps inside station, 5 (!) fps outside station and 20-30 fps in a 3 bs fight. Requeueing now with shader off to see what changes Edit: 120 fps at splash screen :P Edit2: Graphic card settings: AA 6X (yes HDR is off) Adaptive AA enabled Anisotropic Filtering 16x - high quality AF enabled MipMap detail level max quality Force 24-bit Z-buffer enabled Posted them because I am not a computer guru and maybe I am setting something in a horrible wrong way and a simple click or two could give me really uber fps :P So if anyone knows, please let me know as well :D Originally by: Tuxford Sure play gallente and caldari if you like, just don't be upset when I waste your ass in a hurricane.
Cypherous Minmatar Liberty Rogues Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.11.28 00:28:00 - [3] Dual core 2.8Ghz 4GB RAM 8800GTX, with everything turned off, no AA no AF no HDR nothing just the new graphics content i get this :( Please tell me i'm doing something seriously wrong because thats poor --------- Liberty Rogues Website
UMEE	Posted - 2007.11.28 00:37:00 - [4] this is highly discouraging....
Remps Es and Whizz Hedonistic Imperative	Posted - 2007.11.28 00:45:00 - [5] average - 4 fps outside station average - 90 fps inside station 1x NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX #x 2046MB RAM Intel(R) CoreDuo(TM)2 CPU X6800 @ 2.93GHz (2 CPUs) running trinity in window mode with high graphic levels... thinking maybe I need to do a SLi and buy a second card?
AncientGuardian	Posted - 2007.11.28 00:46:00 - [6] Edited by: AncientGuardian on 28/11/2007 00:46:40 AMD X2 4600+ (2.4ghz) 2GB ram 7900GS graphics I set Antialasing to 4x, Anisotropic filtering to 16x, Vertical sync on, triple buffering on in the driver iteself. had max settings in game (HDR off as recommended, i don't like bloom anyway) set at 1280x1024 (max my 19" 4:3 will support) I was getting 70FPS outside, and 35-60FPS in station. oh... so pretty... :edit: im actually getting better performance with Sisi than i am with TQ. on TQ at present with the same settings, i get about 55-65fps outside, but 50ish inside
Crux Australis MotorSaikol LadrUNZ Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.28 00:59:00 - [7] Update -> Shader off, rest unchanged (see post #2 in this topic 100/120 fps in stat 50/70 fps outside station 70/100 fps at ffa1 with like 5/10 ships+drones+wrecks All in all pretty decent, with shader off that is. And tbh I didn't notice big differences between shader = maximum and shader off /me scratches head Originally by: Tuxford Sure play gallente and caldari if you like, just don't be upset when I waste your ass in a hurricane.
Reiisha Splint Eye Probabilities Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.28 01:02:00 - [8] Originally by: Cypherous Dual core 2.8Ghz 4GB RAM 8800GTX, with everything turned off, no AA no AF no HDR nothing just the new graphics content i get this :( Please tell me i'm doing something seriously wrong because thats poor Try setting your color depth to 24bit + 8bit depth stencil, worked wonders for me... EVE History Wiki
Kelron Queldine Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.11.28 01:02:00 - [9] Try turning HDR off if you're getting poor performance, I lose 10 fps with HDR on, bloom off, or 40 fps with bloom on maximum (in station). --------------------------- Vanilla Crazy Cake!
Cypherous Minmatar Liberty Rogues Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.11.28 01:04:00 - [10] Originally by: Reiisha Originally by: Cypherous Dual core 2.8Ghz 4GB RAM 8800GTX, with everything turned off, no AA no AF no HDR nothing just the new graphics content i get this :( Please tell me i'm doing something seriously wrong because thats poor Try setting your color depth to 24bit + 8bit depth stencil, worked wonders for me... If you mean the 8-bit alpha already got that set, as i said not got anything else turned on and drivers are set to be application controlled --------- Liberty Rogues Website
Andargor theWise Collateral Damage Unlimited Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.11.28 01:05:00 - [11] 70 fps in station 10 fps outside FD-MLJ station with lots of peeps around 40 fps in space BFG 7800 GS OC P4 2.8 1GB RAM DDR2 Same performance as TQ for me, nice models though. - Stop the Feature Glut: Take the API to the Next Level
Arana Tellen Gallente The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.11.28 01:06:00 - [12] Core 2 e4300 OCed to 3ghz 8800 GTS 320mb (stock) 150fps space 60fps outside station (busy) --------------------------------- Oh noes!
Ecky X The Aforementioned	Posted - 2007.11.28 02:35:00 - [13] Core 2 Quad @ 3ghz 4gb DDR2 800 X1800xt 512mb 60fps in station 70+ fps alone in a belt ~30fps outside in FD- -----
Crux Australis MotorSaikol LadrUNZ Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.28 02:39:00 - [14] So after some decent testing: shading off = can run 2 clients with pretty good fps (both 40+ at ffa1). Shader = ebil Originally by: Tuxford Sure play gallente and caldari if you like, just don't be upset when I waste your ass in a hurricane.
Katana Seiko Gallente	Posted - 2007.11.28 02:40:00 - [15] I couldn't load the new content, but up to now I'm at approx 130 FPS in station... GeForce 8800GTS 640MB Athlon X2 3200+ --- This is your Captain speaking. Thank you for flying with our spaceline. Please remain seated until the ship has completely burned out. Thank you.
Callistus Stimulus	Posted - 2007.11.28 02:46:00 - [16] Originally by: Cypherous Dual core 2.8Ghz 4GB RAM 8800GTX, with everything turned off, no AA no AF no HDR nothing just the new graphics content i get this :( Please tell me i'm doing something seriously wrong because thats poor Same for me, I think LOD scaling is actually broken. At least I don't see any difference with it enabled or disabled and I get a massive performance hit with anything over a handful of objects in a scene, even if they're too far away to be even visible --------
Cypherous Minmatar Liberty Rogues Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.11.28 03:05:00 - [17] Originally by: Callistus Originally by: Cypherous Dual core 2.8Ghz 4GB RAM 8800GTX, with everything turned off, no AA no AF no HDR nothing just the new graphics content i get this :( Please tell me i'm doing something seriously wrong because thats poor Same for me, I think LOD scaling is actually broken. At least I don't see any difference with it enabled or disabled and I get a massive performance hit with anything over a handful of objects in a scene, even if they're too far away to be even visible Actually some smart chap in IRC pointed out the shadows are fubar and after turning them off its all good ^^ --------- Liberty Rogues Website
Coeleth The Divine Comedy	Posted - 2007.11.28 11:08:00 - [18] Intel P4 3GHz Hyperthreading 1024 PC3200 DDR SDRAM, (dual channel, 200/200) Geforce 6600 LE ( <- Low-End ) Running in 1280x1024, detail high, shadows normal, no driver overriding, no AA 11 fps in station 20-40 fps in space (10-20 outside Amarr Family station with the dustcloud effect. (doesn't bode well for missions..) ) Enabling HDR roughly halves the frame-rate I'm actually surprised it runs this well on the 6600LE, which is a total budget video card. Though what I'm seeing suggests at least the video card in my system will simply not cope with missions with numerous NPCs, busy gates, station undocks and any situation where there's more than 5 ships.
DeadDuck Amarr Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.28 11:12:00 - [19] Pentium Dual core 2.3 GHz 2 Gigs RAm Radeon X1300 FPS: 20 FPs inside station out side 8-20 FPS. Managed to boost it to 30 FPS but when other ships apear on screen drops to 20 FPS...
Sonya Rayner Unicorn Enterprise Blind Octopus	Posted - 2007.11.28 11:28:00 - [20] Originally by: DeadDuck Pentium Dual core 2.3 GHz 2 Gigs RAm Radeon X1300 FPS: 20 FPs inside station out side 8-20 FPS. Managed to boost it to 30 FPS but when other ships apear on screen drops to 20 FPS... Athlon 64 3200+ 1 gig RAM Radeon x1300pro 25-30 fps in station; 25-50 fps outside; 20-30 fps in mission; perfomance well below current TQ client perfomance though. Settings default (norm shadows, no AA, AF set to app-controlled, no HDR), with HDR at max - -33% fps everywhere, with shadows @ extreme i get a nice slideshow ^^ ____________________ couldn't resist... sorry...
Vitelius Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.11.28 12:01:00 - [21] With HDR, shadows normal, quality high I got around 20 FPS outside station with loads of ships on screen. Dropped shadows to none and boom, up to 70+ fps. Big performance hitter those shadows. Setting bloom to high also seems to drop framerate dramatically (and bloom on low looks better anyway, the effects on high seem like an overkill). Resolution 1280x960 Quad core Q6600 @2.4ghz GF8600 GT 512mb 2gb of ram So with my setup setting HDR on, bloom low and shadows off makes it very much playable. ---
Fanjita	Posted - 2007.11.28 12:52:00 - [22] Athlon 64 4400x2 radeon x1900xt windows vista ultimate x64 2560x1600, no aa, hdr on, no bloom, no shadows, 65 fps in station and in space, outside top station in fd- 14fps :( hope this isnt representative of tq performance.
Victor Ivanov Minmatar The Fated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.11.28 12:58:00 - [23] Everyone should remember that this is sisi, and there were around 450 people logged in on a server with a total of what... 2 nodes? Given that, it worked pretty good for me. :) ----------------------
oniplE Aliastra	Posted - 2007.11.28 13:07:00 - [24] 3200+ athlon 64, 2 ghz. Nvidia 6600GT 1 gb ram (ddr). In station: 50-60 Outside station, with about 40 other ships: 20-30 In small combat with a lot of wrecks and drones around: 30+ However, i noticed when im at the station and someone undocks, my harddisk starts searching, which sounds to me like my pc doesnt have enough ram to support the new engine. FPS drops from 20-30 to 5-15 when the harddisk searches. x
Juha85 Beasts of Burden YouWhat	Posted - 2007.11.28 13:14:00 - [25] Intel Dualcore E6300 MSI 8800GTS 640mb 2gb DDR2 800mhz ram Inside station >100 Outside station ~70 Running in highest settings (max bloom), hdr and 1600x1200 resolution --------------------------------------- Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
FawKa Gallente x13	Posted - 2007.11.28 14:04:00 - [26] Edited by: FawKa on 28/11/2007 14:05:41 1) take HDR of guys. 2) do not aply extreme shadows running: 8800 GTX 4 gb ram Q6600 quad core about 120 FPS in station (FD-) about 120 FPS in area with 4 BSs fighting about 50 FPS at station with 30+ ppl undocking constantly In general its fine. Just dont go for HDR nor exstreme shadows. With that, bloody update your graphics card guys. Most of the issue ppl mention is because of that.
Cypherous Minmatar Liberty Rogues Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.11.28 16:58:00 - [27] Originally by: Victor Ivanov Everyone should remember that this is sisi, and there were around 450 people logged in on a server with a total of what... 2 nodes? Given that, it worked pretty good for me. :) Server load shouldn't affect frame rate in the least as its purely PC based, i can get the same lag on TQ if i warp in to a busy mission its graphical not server related, best bet is to kill the shadows completely that helped me a lot, now i can use HDR and AF with no issues and the framerate isn't that bad. --------- Liberty Rogues Website
Scorp Gallente Bladerunners Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.11.28 17:24:00 - [28] Originally by: FawKa Edited by: FawKa on 28/11/2007 14:07:54 1) take HDR of guys. 2) do not aply extreme shadows running: 8800 GTX 4 gb ram Q6600 quad core about 120 FPS in station (FD-) about 100 FPS in area with 4 BSs fighting about 50 FPS at station with 30+ ppl undocking constantly In general its fine. Just dont go for HDR nor exstreme shadows. With that, bloody update your graphics card guys. Most of the issue ppl mention is because of that. - Oh and I am running 1680x1050 fullscreen. Everything high. Turrets and effekts on. No hardware overclocked at this moment. Linkeh Pooh
Cardice Makar Caldari Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.11.28 17:29:00 - [29] Summarized: SHADOWS - TURN THEM OFF [or down] Massive performance increase. If not, sorry A great deal of people haven't gotten this message.
Amida Ta	Posted - 2007.11.28 17:43:00 - [30] Edited by: Amida Ta on 28/11/2007 17:44:44 Edited by: Amida Ta on 28/11/2007 17:44:18 AthlonX64 3500+ 2GB RAM Radeon 2600XT, 512MB HDR on, Bloom high, Shadows Normal 40-80 in Stations 15-40 in Space (15 with lots of ships) In some rare Situations 10-20 With shadows maximum I only get single digits outside...
Trojanman190 Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2007.11.28 17:45:00 - [31] Ill put up my fps count in a bit but I too agree that LOD is just hosed right now. Try launching drones and see what happens. The individual drones are just as detailed, if not more detailed, than some of the ships in the game. Remove all windows (ctl + tab) and you can still faintly make out the details. It is my opinion that all ccp has to do apply the lod scaling, as currently there is none.
N1fty Amarr Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2007.11.28 17:50:00 - [32] All settings at maximum (bloom, shadows, colours, etc) at 1680x1050 I get about 10FPS outside station in FD- with like 50 Ships undocked. In free for all I get 15FPS with 10 ships fighting Core 2 Duo E6750 @ 3Ghz 2048MB RAM GeForce 8800 320MB @ 621Mhz Core, 945Mhz Memory, 1404Mhz Shader Am using Forceware 169.12 BETA drivers (released for Crysis). I will try turning shadows off. When I can get on SiSi. ============================================
Captain Alcatraz Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2007.11.28 18:22:00 - [33] Edited by: Captain Alcatraz on 28/11/2007 18:23:43 Desktop: - Core 2 Duo e6450 @ 3.1ghz - 2gb ddr2 ram @ 1ghz - nvidia 8800 gt @ 650 / 950m mhz 80-90 FPS outside station in FD- (1680x1050, 8xQ AA, 16x AF, no shadow, no HDR) Laptop: - Dell 1420 - Core 2 Duo T7100 - 2gb ddr2 ram - nvidia 8400m 25-35 FPS outside station in FD- (1280x800, no AA, AF, shadow, or HDR)
Y3R M4W	Posted - 2007.11.28 20:14:00 - [34] Desktop with ò Intel P4 3Ghz Multithreaded single core CPU ò 1Gb slow (266Mhz?) RAM ò 1x 8800 GTS 320Mb Massive bottleneck atm GFX Card is set to 2x AA, and the rest is defaults, whatever they may be. Eve is set to no shadows and no HDR or bloom. ò Just under 20 fps in station ò 10-15 fps outside FD-MLJ P7 - M2 (could be worse) ò 15-20 alone in warp ò 15-20 alone in belt ò 10-15 in FFA4 with 4 other people + drones etc and all effects on Note: YER MAW! is Scottish for Your Mother.
Loyal Servant Caldari Viper Intel Squad Pure.	Posted - 2007.11.28 20:40:00 - [35] With a vast majority of people with high end systems reporting that it just simply lags to death, and now a release date of December 5... Some people are saying this is not 'optimized' ? 5 December is 1 week from today.... you really think that they are going to do all of that and release it in 1 week? I have one of those high end systems with 2 8800s in SLI with 640mb of ram and such..... It simply blows chunks compared to other games that have similar/better graphics. I run in fleets, I would PAY for really crappy graphics just to not lag and die. This was a graphics update, yes. But that is all that it appears to be, a marketing gimmick to show how pretty it is but, I do not see any real performance gains and that is what people want in the end run, not shiny stuff that will die before you even see it load in a fight. Sorry, but this fails to deliver right now. We will see in time.
MOS DEF 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.11.28 20:56:00 - [36] Edited by: MOS DEF on 28/11/2007 20:57:05 Originally by: Cypherous Dual core 2.8Ghz 4GB RAM 8800GTX, with everything turned off, no AA no AF no HDR nothing just the new graphics content i get this :( Please tell me i'm doing something seriously wrong because thats poor There is something wrong. Download the latest beta driver. I got a overclocked 8800 GTS and a AMD X2 running at 3070mhz and i get 100 fps in station and 35 to 70 at the same location same zoom angle you showed with LOADS of ships around. I run 1920x1200 HDR= high Shadows= high. 16XAF Driver used: 169.09
Loyal Servant Caldari Viper Intel Squad Pure.	Posted - 2007.11.28 21:01:00 - [37] Originally by: MOS DEF Edited by: MOS DEF on 28/11/2007 20:57:05 Originally by: Cypherous Dual core 2.8Ghz 4GB RAM 8800GTX, with everything turned off, no AA no AF no HDR nothing just the new graphics content i get this :( Please tell me i'm doing something seriously wrong because thats poor There is something wrong. Download the latest beta driver. I got a overclocked 8800 GTS and a AMD X2 running at 3070mhz and i get 100 fps in station and 35 to 70 at the same location same zoom angle you showed with LOADS of ships around. I run 1920x1200 HDR= high Shadows= high. 16XAF Driver used: 169.09 If you have to overclock your box to get performance, does that not tell you that there is something else a miss? Eve is the only game that kills my system, and it doesn't have half the whiz bang technology that something like HL2 has in it's graphics engine yet performs 10,000x better. I think they need to work on it some before releasing.
Kw4h Dragon's Rage Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2007.11.28 21:01:00 - [38] nVidia geForce 8800gtx Amd64 X2 6000+ 2GB DDR2 RAM All at 1280x1024 Alone outside, AA @ 4x, AF @ 8x, shadows off: 135 FPS Outside busy station, AA @ 4x, AF @ 8x, shadows off: 85 FSP Outside busy station, AA @ 16Q, AF @ 8x, Shadows High: 30 FPS Outside busy station, AA @ 16Q, AF @ 8x, Shadows Extreme: 6.5 FPS _ Planet Sight Wallpaper - EvE map
MOS DEF 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.11.28 21:16:00 - [39] Originally by: Loyal Servant Originally by: MOS DEF Edited by: MOS DEF on 28/11/2007 20:57:05 Originally by: Cypherous Dual core 2.8Ghz 4GB RAM 8800GTX, with everything turned off, no AA no AF no HDR nothing just the new graphics content i get this :( Please tell me i'm doing something seriously wrong because thats poor There is something wrong. Download the latest beta driver. I got a overclocked 8800 GTS and a AMD X2 running at 3070mhz and i get 100 fps in station and 35 to 70 at the same location same zoom angle you showed with LOADS of ships around. I run 1920x1200 HDR= high Shadows= high. 16XAF Driver used: 169.09 If you have to overclock your box to get performance, does that not tell you that there is something else a miss? Eve is the only game that kills my system, and it doesn't have half the whiz bang technology that something like HL2 has in it's graphics engine yet performs 10,000x better. I think they need to work on it some before releasing. I overclock my systems allways because i do it for years and never had anything die on me. I don't see why i should have less performance then ic an have from my hardware.
JonShannow	Posted - 2007.11.28 22:49:00 - [40] you really expect good results on a test server thats 4+ times over its capacity.. Jon.
lag kills Woopatang The Red Skull	Posted - 2007.11.28 23:30:00 - [41] MacPro running windows XP 2x dual-core 'Woodcrest' Xeons 2GB 667MHz DDR2 ECC RAM Radeon x1900xt w/ Omega drivers With my regular anti-aliasing settings turned on through the omega drivers, and HDR turned off: ~130fps while warping ~80fps in belts ~40-50fps at the station in FD with everybody hanging around. no different than jita. In my opinion the HDR effects are a little overboard and not needed. All they really do that's noticeable is blow out the highlights on objects, with a pretty significant frame rate loss. And that's with the lowest setting. So with the settings that I prefer, I still get performance on par with the current client. I'm pumped :D ___________________________ not all who wander are lost.
Aronis Contar Caldari Independent Manufacturers	Posted - 2007.11.28 23:48:00 - [42] Core 2 Duo, 2.67 Ghz 4 Gig RAM 8800 GTX Vista 30-40 fps with the peeps all gazing at their ships outside the station in FD 100-150 fps in station or outside alone and about the same fighting reasonable numbers of enemies. All settings on high, no AA. Runs better than the current release client, and much much prettier. Ciao, Aronis!
Ms Freak Amarr NCN Corp Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.11.28 23:50:00 - [43] My Machine: 64Bit AMD 6400+ X2 (3.2ghz Dual Core) Azus A8N-SLI Premium M/b 2 Gig Coursair XPS Pro DDR3 2x 7900GTX Gainward Bliss Golden Sample 256 (SLI Mode) 1280x1024 With HDR: 30~ FPS in Station 12~ Outside Without HDR: 120~ FPS in Station 90~ Outside SLI Makes NO Difference at all, i tried with and without and saw no visible difference at all. All in all performance is not very good at all.
Dr Grot Gallente Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2007.11.29 00:09:00 - [44] AMD Athlon 64 3500+ 7300GS 512MB SMA 2 GB RAM Win Xp Home Edition 1024x768 24 bit colour 24 bit Z-Buffer Shadow quality: Normal HDR: Disabled AA: N/A All Effects enabled FPS: 39-31 Enabling HDR using the pref.ini command line has a detrimental effect on texture detail and quality. Increasing shadow quality drastically decreases my FPS. Turning off HDR made a marked improvement to texture detail and shading. I think my card was unable to render HDR as it should. The "glow" from the textures distorted them quite severely. The UI also flickers in and out of display for a while after session changes. I'm upgrading my system on Friday so hope to See a big improvement. Despite the glitches the new engine looks amazing.
Satura Mucho Dolor	Posted - 2007.11.29 00:31:00 - [45] [email protected] HT p4 7900GS 1.5gb ram 1280/1024 shadows: high hdr: on bloom: high -> 40-60 fps (with 2-3 ships in system though, didn't went to fd) 1280/1024 shadows: high hdr: off bloom: - -> 50-80 fps (same as before)
CrazyChinchilla The Greater Goon GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.29 00:36:00 - [46] 7600 gs 512mb 3 gb of RAM 2.51ghz dual core AMD 1440 X 900 resoultion All settings high 0-5 fps outside station 5-10 fps at FFA1 All settings off 30 fps outside station 60 fps at a planet 30-40 fps at FFA1 runs suprisingly well.... if I turn on SLI I get a boost too which suprised me even more considering SLI never works
Cardice Makar Caldari Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.11.29 00:58:00 - [47] Shadows are the bane of your FPS. Leave them on normal and the worst you'll get is "jaggy-bits" but it still looks good and doesn't massacre your fps. That said: Q6600 [@3.0], 2gb of ram, 8800gt Shadows: normal / HDR / Bloom: High / 8x AA 75-85 fps with about 30 ships / fighters and whatnot on screen. I generally have about the same on the classic client... and we have alot less GUI-lag here, that I've noticed. Also, it's incredibly pretty.
FawKa Gallente x13	Posted - 2007.11.29 01:08:00 - [48] Originally by: Scorp Edited by: Scorp on 28/11/2007 17:27:22 Originally by: FawKa Edited by: FawKa on 28/11/2007 14:07:54 1) take HDR of guys. 2) do not aply extreme shadows running: 8800 GTX 4 gb ram Q6600 quad core about 120 FPS in station (FD-) about 100 FPS in area with 4 BSs fighting about 50 FPS at station with 30+ ppl undocking constantly In general its fine. Just dont go for HDR nor exstreme shadows. With that, bloody update your graphics card guys. Most of the issue ppl mention is because of that. - Oh and I am running 1680x1050 fullscreen. Everything high. Turrets and effekts on. No hardware overclocked at this moment. oh some of the people having frame rate issues on full settings are the people that are running high end systems I think that is easy to see that there is a problem with the current setup of the client. and guess what they have already said the game is currently not graphically optimized for it to pass alot of the processing to the graphics cards. Im running what can be classed as a higher end system and it still dies in FD. Pentium core2 3.2ghz (over clocked) 4gig memory GeForce 8800gts with 640mb of memory raid 5 7200rpm seagate drives. 1600x1200 resolution On full eve graphical settings with no forced settings from the graphics card im geting 110fps in station 5-15 outside station in FD and around 25-30 with small battles (not Free for All area's) one thing I have forgotten about and will try once i get back home is that I run duel view on 2 1600x1200 monitors and some games in full screen have a few issues' running a full screen app with a 2nd duel view monitor. In this case I dont think it will be much but Its worth a try You must have set shadows to exstreme or something mate. That really pulled my FPS down to begin with so I set it to hgih. But I really agree.. Man what I can't pull out of this machine in crysis etc. But I really exspected these issues to come tho. Seems a bit like CCP's art division did a really nice job and that the programmers didn't keep up. - - - Signature - - - For Sisi; Running: 8800 GTX 640mb, 4 GB ram, quad core Q6600, creative x-fi, ASUS striker exstreme MB, windows vista, 1680x1050 fullscreen,

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