This thread is going to end in absolute disaster.

Don't trust a goon when he talks about new player experience.

They spoil them. They ruin the whole growing up/experience path.
They pick insecure people with no real self esteem and give them the false
feeling of might and awesomeness.

That said ... it's probably no loss, because smart people with character wouldn't join the goons anyway.

Yes, I am allergic go cats. In other news: Cats smell.

filters like that work. if someone is apathetic, and decides not to vote, how meaningful exactly would his vote have been if he had?

I don't see much loss in skipping all the boring faction grinding and missioning to start doing this on day 2 of your character's existence.

(He was the entire reason 3 tengus, a drake and an osprey were killed. hero tackle!)

Exceptions aren't the rule.

Don't trust a goon when he talks about new player experience.

They spoil them. They ruin the whole growing up/experience path.
They pick insecure people with no real self esteem and give them the false
feeling of might and awesomeness.

That said ... it's probably no loss, because smart people with character wouldn't join the goons anyway.

get rid of the CSM

You go girl :D

best thread in a while 10/10

If you're stupid enough to believe that, go ahead. Truth is, we just recruit from Something Awful. Don't even bother trying to throw that blanket on a forum with 150k+ members.

He thinks that's the exception.

While his particular day 2 kills were extremely shiny, pretty much every single newbro we bring on to fleets ends up doing something hilarious or awesome, eventually leading to the loss of his ship and several hundred million deposited in his wallet by fleetmates for the good time.

We make a point of keeping EVE fun, and giving new players a chance to experience the best parts of EVE before they burn out doing the **** they'd be doing otherwise.

And highsec activities are all roughly on par with the excitement of mission running. Most of us nullseccers didn't just jump straight into 0.0, we trudged through that crap. Hence why we make a point to make 0.0 accessible to our newbros - so they don't have to.

You're probably right, but couldn't you teach most of your members a bit more ... brains ... or ... manners ... too ?

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nice goonfleet dot com forum rep lol

I believe it was you where i got the idea from ... that you spoil people and everything. Can't tell for sure,
but it was a goon who i got it from.

I can't tell if you were being honest, it just made sense that you were doing exactly what you said you're doing.

You're probably right, but couldn't you teach most of your members a bit more ... brains ... or ... manners ... too ?

You're an idiot.



Lyris is male.

It's great that you make it fun for people who pay to get to S.A., but what about the others ?

I'm sure having a CSM in your pocket comes in very handy for GoonWaffe.

Why have i always liked TEST more than the Goons anyway ?

I am not a member of SA. And Goonswarm is the only member of the CFC with that restriction.

Because you actually listened to the really, really old anti-goon propaganda that has been kicking around highsec since the days of BoB.

the pseudo-elitist thinking from people who are nothing else than ants with no brains.

the irony does not escape me

No, i'm sure i didn't. I don't listen to propaganda, i'm thinking for myself.

I believe it could be the behaviour. Not talking about ganking, mom killing or anything,
just the pseudo-elitist thinking from people who are nothing else than ants with no brains.

TEST, at least, seems to be different.

if you actually got to know our communities, your opinions would invert entirely.

We have two, actually! For the better part of a few weeks, we had three. Too bad Prometheus went back to Genos.

I'm sorry, it seems i wasn't using the right wording for you to understand.

You're an idiot, following an idiot.
I may be an idiot, but i don't follow anybody.

The sad part is that your group has so many idiots, you actually have an impact.

The reason a lot of people don't vote,is that they have no faith in the voting system or its candidates. So they can't vote for anyone anyway, casting a vote would be also a vote for the system of voting.

Or plainly put, using the system adds credibility to it.