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Avid Bumhumper
Furian Necromongers
21
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Posted - 2012.02.01 18:51:00 -
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I call Troll.
Before I dumped my Nyx, I tested it out on a baddon. Max skills, with fighters or ogre2's I could burn out of range before even getting into structure. It's laughable that anyone could lose 3 BS to an SC.
My advice would be to actually pay attention to local. 
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3042
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Posted - 2012.02.01 18:53:00 -
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Local Rep SCs could probably withstand long enough to solo a small gate camp. But I dont fly these things so I wouldnt know.
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xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers Galactic-Rangers
40
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Posted - 2012.02.01 19:07:00 -
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all who have lost caps will agree.
1. me loves me cap,, it's soooo shiney.
2. me wants to use me cap,, it's sooo shiney.
3. oohh oohhh me gets chance to use cap,, pew pew pew 
4. all is good me cap lives and i get to say, my epeen is massive ! 
5. me gets another chance to show my massive epeen and pew pew a pos/other cap.
6. me gets hot dropped and has my epeen cut off in it's prime 
7. me learns to have support, escape route, and a huge dose of parania at hand everytime i fly a cap again.
OP some advice, HTFU learn from it and move on, or don't learn from it and lose more caps.
last thing you should have done is rant for game changes because you had ya epeen removed without an anesthetic  |

trollerii
The Empire Nation Fidelas Constans
0
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Posted - 2012.02.01 19:08:00 -
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you came unprepared to bash a POS and when the resistance came and spanked your 4 man group you cry about it? IT's not low secs mechanics that is wrong, it is your preparation. |

Liam Mirren
215
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Posted - 2012.02.01 19:33:00 -
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Dominixes should be removed from low sec, seriously. We started a roam with 3 frigates and 2 cruisers and we ran into a single dominix, A SINGLE DOMINIX. Want to guess the result? HE KILLED ALL OF US! Honestly, seriously. Dominixiiii are way to powerful to be able to fight in low sec because you can't kill them with a small group (as we've just proven). CCP should take care of those *******. Till then I'm cancelling all my 24 accounts. If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right.
My guides: http://mirren.freeforums.org |

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3042
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Posted - 2012.02.01 19:39:00 -
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My friend had 5 frigates and defanged the mofo in 12 seconds. ransoming him for 30 million isk. it was rather halarious.
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Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
1004
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Posted - 2012.02.01 20:00:00 -
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I wonder if CCP would really listen to the OP with a thread title like this? EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |

Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
365
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Posted - 2012.02.01 20:28:00 -
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Lord Xyr'dan wrote:but they are for SOV HOLDING ALLIANCES!! Not for hot dropping random targets in low sec!!!
Says who?
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Yahrr
The Tuskers
10
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Posted - 2012.02.01 22:18:00 -
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I too believe that low sec needs to be 'fixed', but I don't think any possible fix involves mothers or dreads. I think what you needed for your little operation was a plan, a backup plan, and a backup backup plan. |

Zimmy Zeta
Battle Force Industries Tactical Invader Syndicate
797
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Posted - 2012.02.01 23:26:00 -
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I am still enthralled by the title of this thread...this is genius, and sums up everything marvelously with so few words...
Directing the thread at CCP --> check At least parts of the title written in ALLCAPS --> check Two question marks instead of one --> check Unnecessary reassurement that this thread is important --> check
So...without reading your post, only from the title: Am I right to presume that someone just blew up an expensive ship of yours and you attribute this to lowsec mechanics being broken? -.- |

Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
325
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Posted - 2012.02.01 23:42:00 -
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NO listen to ME.
If you want to fix low-sec, let players take on the role of CONCORD.
There, fixed.
Fly Safe, Die Hard
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3048
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Posted - 2012.02.02 00:12:00 -
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Meryl SinGarda wrote:NO listen to ME.
If you want to fix low-sec, let players take on the role of CONCORD.
There, fixed.
^ FW all of low sec and give some npc assistance.
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met worst
The Drongo Club
127
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Posted - 2012.02.02 01:22:00 -
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Lord Xyr'dan wrote:No cause it doesnt matter who it was. The fact remains that supers dont belong ganking stuff in low sec. They should be able to move and activate defense modules.. otherwise move them back to null. They are for sov warfare.
Actually supers shouldnt even exist but thats a differant argument. Many people know that the creation of Titans and Moms was a mistake... I wasn't gonna read all the posts on this topic to check for a repeat but last time I had CAPS come and pop my lowsec POS I was calling for CAPS to be nerfed with their offensive capabilites in lowsec.
Then I thought, the subcap blob will get me instead so I thought that we should stop the subcap blobs.
Then I thought, **** it. I left lowsec. Solved ALL my problems overnight.
But really? We gotta either make lowsec like nullsec or make lowsec like highsec?
Well - it won't be lowsec then so we won't have a problem anyway. |

xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers Galactic-Rangers
40
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Posted - 2012.02.02 08:37:00 -
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there is nothing wrong with low sec, low sec is working as intended. the buffer between high sec and null, as it should be.
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Terminal Insanity
Convex Enterprises Unprovoked Aggression
226
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Posted - 2012.02.02 08:41:00 -
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Lord Xyr'dan wrote:Make Supers have NO offensive ability in low sec.
This pretty much voided any point you had in the rest of your post |

Dantivio
DarkMatter-Industries SRS.
4
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Posted - 2012.02.02 09:29:00 -
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i wish stupid people would let me kill them like that every once in awhile. im quite envious of that nyx pilot. |

xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers Galactic-Rangers
40
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Posted - 2012.02.02 18:49:00 -
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Dantivio wrote:i wish stupid people would let me kill them like that every once in awhile. im quite envious of that nyx pilot.
as am i
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Stan Smith
Remenent British Federation
29
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Posted - 2012.02.02 19:29:00 -
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i like how 75% of posters in this thread read "my corp lost dreads to a supercarrier" and stopped there and started trolling |

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
415
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Posted - 2012.02.02 19:38:00 -
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Stan Smith wrote:i like how 75% of posters in this thread read "my corp lost dreads to a supercarrier" and stopped there and started trolling Nah, they read "we were doing a POS takedown with 2 dreads and 3 battleships, and lost most of our fleet to a solo Nyx" and then they stopped reading and started trolling.
For good reason, too. Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers. US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join us. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. |

destiny2
Right Ascension
20
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Posted - 2012.02.02 20:09:00 -
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First of all your dreads must of been fail fit. as two dreads can easily crack the tank on a lone solo super cap. Plus you had battleships for support with you. Kill the super and its drones sit their like derp derp. |

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
513
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Posted - 2012.02.02 20:10:00 -
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Posting in a reverse-blob whine thread.
(Seriously OP, I've seen *small* corps and alliances with better POS takedown fleets than that. How does 2 caps and 3 BS make you medium?)
This is my signature.-á There are many others like it, but this one is mine. |

destiny2
Right Ascension
20
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Posted - 2012.02.02 20:15:00 -
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Liam Mirren wrote:Dominixes should be removed from low sec, seriously. We started a roam with 3 frigates and 2 cruisers and we ran into a single dominix, A SINGLE DOMINIX. Want to guess the result? HE KILLED ALL OF US! Honestly, seriously. Dominixiiii are way to powerful to be able to fight in low sec because you can't kill them with a small group (as we've just proven). CCP should take care of those *******. Till then I'm cancelling all my 24 accounts.
3 frigates two cruisers t1 i presume. vrs 1 Domi. Prolly a domi pilot whos been flying his dominix since before eve was Multi colored graphics. knows how to use it.
but you lost 3 frigates and 2 cruisers = NO BIG LOSS IN ISK. Or. Maybe. work your skills a bit. |

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
415
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Posted - 2012.02.02 20:18:00 -
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destiny2 wrote:Liam Mirren wrote:Dominixes should be removed from low sec, seriously. We started a roam with 3 frigates and 2 cruisers and we ran into a single dominix, A SINGLE DOMINIX. Want to guess the result? HE KILLED ALL OF US! Honestly, seriously. Dominixiiii are way to powerful to be able to fight in low sec because you can't kill them with a small group (as we've just proven). CCP should take care of those *******. Till then I'm cancelling all my 24 accounts. 3 frigates two cruisers t1 i presume. vrs 1 Domi. Prolly a domi pilot whos been flying his dominix since before eve was Multi colored graphics. knows how to use it. but you lost 3 frigates and 2 cruisers = NO BIG LOSS IN ISK. Or. Maybe. work your skills a bit.
Damn, Liam, you need to put fewer speed mods on your sarcasm, because it soared right over this dude's head. Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers. US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join us. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. |

Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
20
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Posted - 2012.02.02 20:38:00 -
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Lord Xyr'dan wrote:Smodab Ongalot wrote:Lord Xyr'dan wrote: But then these supers come in and screw it all up. They belong in hardcore EVE land AKA null. Where you can have hardcore Tech moon incomes and hardcore 1000 man fleet battles using your hardcore 30-60 billion ISK supers.
See, the problem here is that what you have stated is not a fact, but a matter of opinion. I think we can agree that low-sec should be an area for small-medium sized groups of people doing their thing, and that null-sec is the place for large empire building groups to do their thing. But that is a completely different matter than whether supers should be allowed to be offensive in low-sec or not. In a fictional ideal world, only the small to medium sized groups living low-sec could use them in low-sec, but not the huge null sec alliances. But, that is completely unworkable, so obviously not a solution. I guess what I'm saying is, if that super was just 1 super, you should have been able to either GTFO or kill it. So in that regard, you guys failed for loosing your caps. But in reality, there were probably more supers waiting from wherever that one jumped from, waiting for him to call for help. Hell, maybe he was even bait for an escalation. So yea, it sucks, but not a whole lot that can be done about it. I guess, you will have to , well, adapt or something. edit: Since you will inevitably ask how you could have done better, let me help. 1) Bring in a carrier at range and try to save the dread. Probably a bad idea, since WN. super prolly has friends. 2) Bring in logistics ships and try to keep the dread alive. You had 3 bs pilots, they should have logistics ships nearby, surely. Or you could carrier them over to a station, etc. 3) Bring a bumping ship. Maybe something with an oversized AB. Bump your dread the **** out of the way. 4) Don't leave your darn cyno up after cynoing in. Use something cheap and blow it up afterwards. No need for you to put a big bright spot on the map showing you had 1 up. You do know that solar system map shows active cyno's, right? If had a super and was bored, I would look for all the stationless systems with cynos up. Yeah so one guy in this thread said for me to stay in siege and tank the Nyx. Why? I'll enentually run out of stront or he will bring in friends. Yeah he probably did have mroe supers ready to drop so i could have done nothing. The BSes were lost trying to take out the FB from the Nyx to save the caps. They managed to Save the Moros. The Rev ALMOST got out of the Nyx's point range before it popped. He was at 31 km trying to get out of the faction/officer point range. I did chat with the Super pilot a bit afterwards. He told me he had two points and he went for the Raven and dropped point on the Moros. I had a GTFO cyno ready once the dreads came out of siege. Thats how the Moros got out. The cyno we lit to bring in the dreads was long gone. We had been working on the POS modules for a few loads of stront by then.
If you would have kept both dreads in siege mode he would not have broke your tank without help. you could have tried to take out the super before he took you out. you might have gotten him. he most likely had friends but they could not drop in without a cyno. Even if you still lose you would have at least had a good fight. An insured dread is not a huge loss.
Besides if it had been you that hot dropped a care bear mining fleet and wiped them out, this thread would be you bragging about how L33T you were.
I always find it funny how low sec PVPers constantly complain about having no PVP targets, when the only targets they are interested in are the ones they can not lose against. like a poorly defended carebear POS. As soon as they are fighting someone that can actually fight back or are on the losing side of a hot drop, they cry more than the care bears they so enjoy ganking.
You chose to play the PVP side of the game ganking every thing that pokes its head into your system, but you cry when you get ganked yourself. What goes around comes around. Which is even more funny considering the fact that 2 dreads with BS support set up for a POS bash should have no problem taking out a Nyx.
Look at this from the other side. If he had not hot dropped you, and you took out the POS, and the POS owner was here complaining about how it is so unfair that a couple dreads popped his POS for no reason other than LOLs. Dreads should not be allowed in low sec, What would you say to him?
Most likely something like, Suck it up care bear go back to highsec if you can not handle a few losses. Well I say the same to you. So you lost a fight in Low sec. Suck it up. PVP is not always about winning.
If you can not handle losing a fight then do not PVP. Go live in high sec with the care bears you so love ganking.
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Natalinnux
Super Cr3w
0
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Posted - 2012.02.02 20:43:00 -
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> OP Finds a POS that belongs to some "pathetic mining allaince" in low sec > OP comes to conclusion that this small, "pathetic mining alliance" has no cap ships to defend the tower > OP fields 2 dreads and 3 BS to destroy the tower > Hero Nyx pilot whelps OP's pathetic dread fleet and saves poor little mining alliance's POS > OP cries on forums
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wallenbergaren
University of Caille Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2012.02.02 20:59:00 -
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While OP is dumb and shouldn't whine (you are aware that supers CAN be used in lowsec, so you know the risk you're taking) he does have a valid point. Titans already can't DD in lowsec and there's not really any reason for fighter bombers to be usable there. Don't have any misconceptions about what the outcome of such a design change would be though. If you are no longer afraid of a super hotdrop in lowsec, well guess what, the next corp isn't either and they probably have a bigger capfleet than you. It's still a dog eat dog world, no matter what the biggest ship is. |

Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
394
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Posted - 2012.02.02 21:36:00 -
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should supers have offense in lowsec ? nah. lowsec should be roams and maybe a cap ship or 2. not supers with support that is for 0.0
is it because you got rofl stomped with 5 whole ships? no your just bad at first ithought you had at least 10 battleships.. but you didnt. |

Liam Mirren
221
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Posted - 2012.02.02 21:54:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:destiny2 wrote:Liam Mirren wrote:Dominixes should be removed from low sec, seriously. We started a roam with 3 frigates and 2 cruisers and we ran into a single dominix, A SINGLE DOMINIX. Want to guess the result? HE KILLED ALL OF US! Honestly, seriously. Dominixiiii are way to powerful to be able to fight in low sec because you can't kill them with a small group (as we've just proven). CCP should take care of those *******. Till then I'm cancelling all my 24 accounts. 3 frigates two cruisers t1 i presume. vrs 1 Domi. Prolly a domi pilot whos been flying his dominix since before eve was Multi colored graphics. knows how to use it. but you lost 3 frigates and 2 cruisers = NO BIG LOSS IN ISK. Or. Maybe. work your skills a bit. Damn, Liam, you need to put fewer speed mods on your sarcasm, because it soared right over this dude's head.
So it seems, so it seems. If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right.
My guides: http://mirren.freeforums.org |

Nephilius
Grey Legionaires
308
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Posted - 2012.02.03 00:56:00 -
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And here I thought it was going to be another diatribe about moving Lvl 4s to Losec. You have exceeded my expectations sir, well done. Sorry about your losses, but it is Eve, after all. To stand before a man at an inquisition, knowing that he will rejoice when we die, knowing that he will commit us to the stake and its horrors without a moment's hesitation or remorse if we do not satisfy him, is not an experience much less cruel because our inquisitor does not whip us or rack us or shout at us. |

Ravenal
The Fated E.Y
4
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Posted - 2012.02.03 02:15:00 -
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the only thing low sec needs is more of it... add 1000 more low sec systems. |
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