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Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.28 23:13:00 - [1] Caldari ships get an agility increase. In the patch notes.
Calexis Atredies Quantum Industries Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.11.28 23:33:00 - [2] They did what? So no more getting caught alligning to gates when your gang is doing a runner... or at least you wont be the last one to enter warp :) Calexis Atredies pays homage to CCP Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
Arthur Frayn Veterans Of Liberation Ltd.	Posted - 2007.11.28 23:33:00 - [3] Edited by: Arthur Frayn on 28/11/2007 23:34:56 It's about time. I can't wait for the "wahh wahhh! Caldari online! wahhhh!" complaints. -- Eve needs a dose of Top Gun without the sweaty shower scenes.
the thorn	Posted - 2007.11.28 23:34:00 - [4] http://myeve.eve-online.com/updates/patchnotes.asp
Rodran Crag Amarr Merch Industrial	Posted - 2007.11.28 23:35:00 - [5] Originally by: Arthur Frayn Link or stfu. Durr hurr, can i haz obvious things plz?
Arthur Frayn Veterans Of Liberation Ltd.	Posted - 2007.11.28 23:35:00 - [6] Originally by: Rodran Crag Originally by: Arthur Frayn Link or stfu. Durr hurr, can i haz obvious things plz? Yeah, I found it already. Shaddap. -- Eve needs a dose of Top Gun without the sweaty shower scenes.
the thorn Tres Viri	Posted - 2007.11.28 23:46:00 - [7] Edited by: the thorn on 28/11/2007 23:46:31 no need for the minmatar to cry, caldari are still slow. (same speed, same high mass) just a bit more agile.
Niraia Gallente ScaryScaryNoobs	Posted - 2007.11.28 23:48:00 - [8] Caldari Online, etc! I don't mind, you probably need the agility to make up for your ugly portraits.
the thorn Tres Viri	Posted - 2007.11.28 23:51:00 - [9] my portrait is da bomb, so stfu :P
Arthur Frayn Veterans Of Liberation Ltd.	Posted - 2007.11.28 23:51:00 - [10] And because most of our ships are half the size of everyone elses in each ship class. -- Eve needs a dose of Top Gun without the sweaty shower scenes.
Vladimir Antlerkov GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.29 00:25:00 - [11] Awesome, now can we please lower the mass of the Hawk so it weighs less than a destroyer?
Oam Mkoll Caldari HUSARIA Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.29 00:36:00 - [12] Originally by: Vladimir Antlerkov Awesome, now can we please lower the mass of the Hawk so it weighs less than a destroyer? What he said. The Hawk is still a frigate, make it fly like one. --- I am violence boat
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.29 00:40:00 - [13] All the assault friagtes are heavy like that, the hawk is no exception.
Maximillian Dragonard	Posted - 2007.11.29 00:56:00 - [14] You mean we might not watch everyone else warping off before we do now??
Ulstan	Posted - 2007.11.29 00:59:00 - [15] About time. Maybe now we'll start seeing answers other than "Minmatar or Gallente" when someone asks "what ship should I PvP in?"
Maximillian Dragonard	Posted - 2007.11.29 01:13:00 - [16] One more boost to Caldari... 40% reduction in the cap usage of ECM modules (probably to address the need to fit mwd's these days)
Kazuma Saruwatari	Posted - 2007.11.29 01:20:00 - [17] Good first step. Caldari are more competitive now. Good one. - Odd Pod Out, a blog of EVE Online
ChimeraRouge Caldari Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.11.29 02:19:00 - [18] yay! Now please increase our missile velocity across the board to catch those overpowered nano ships or fix snakes, mwds, and polycarbons.
Wu Jiun	Posted - 2007.11.29 03:15:00 - [19] Edited by: Wu Jiun on 29/11/2007 03:24:39 Now, guess whos left out in the cold. Edit: I am very curious if there will ever be a dev blog explaining all these many changes to caldari ships. Looking at the style of the latest devblogs, it probably gets announced but left unexplained.
Maximillian Dragonard	Posted - 2007.11.29 04:41:00 - [20] Here's what someone else posted as the current known changes (not all are known atm) Raven: 0.155 -> 0.145 Scorpion: 0.155 -> 0.135 Rokh: 0.155 -> 0.15 Drake: 0.88 -> 0.79 Ferox: 0.88 -> 0.79 Caracal: 0.55 -> 0.4 Buzzard: 3.1 -> 2.8 Hawk: 3.1 -> 2.55 Kestrel 3.1 -> 2.65 Cerb 0.65 -> 0.48 Bustard 1.0 -> 0.93 Falcon 0.65 -> 0.5 Caracal Navy Issue 0.65 -> 0.52 More agility than basically any other race, just still more mass, less speed.. n'bad though
Gorion Wassenar Caldari Tsurokigaarai APEX Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.11.29 04:44:00 - [21] About Bloody time. ----- results may vary
Maximillian Dragonard	Posted - 2007.11.29 04:57:00 - [22] Originally by: Wu Jiun Edited by: Wu Jiun on 29/11/2007 03:24:39 Now, guess whos left out in the cold. Edit: I am very curious if there will ever be a dev blog explaining all these many changes to caldari ships. Looking at the style of the latest devblogs, it probably gets announced but left unexplained. Actually, there was a dev post last week stating that they were needing to look at Caldari agility (or lack of <--his words).. guess they decided to toss it in..
Liang Nuren The Avalon Foundation Knights Of Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.29 05:29:00 - [23] Originally by: Maximillian Dragonard Originally by: Wu Jiun Edited by: Wu Jiun on 29/11/2007 03:24:39 Now, guess whos left out in the cold. Edit: I am very curious if there will ever be a dev blog explaining all these many changes to caldari ships. Looking at the style of the latest devblogs, it probably gets announced but left unexplained. Actually, there was a dev post last week stating that they were needing to look at Caldari agility (or lack of <--his words).. guess they decided to toss it in.. I don't really see that... in any of the dev blogs. Link? Liang -- Retired forum *****. Plz tell me to STFU. Yarr?
Maximillian Dragonard	Posted - 2007.11.29 05:35:00 - [24] It wasn't a blog... there was a mass influx of dev responses to questions... it was in that mess somewhere. I'll try to find it tomorrow and link it.
Maximillian Dragonard	Posted - 2007.11.29 06:31:00 - [25] Originally by: Liang Nuren Edit: I am very curious if there will ever be a dev blog explaining all these many changes to caldari ships. Looking at the style of the latest devblogs, it probably gets announced but left unexplained. Actually, there was a dev post last week stating that they were needing to look at Caldari agility (or lack of <--his words).. guess they decided to toss it in.. I don't really see that... in any of the dev blogs. Link? Liang Here's the thread link http://www.eve-search.com/thread/631272/page/14#413 the exact quote by Zulupark is "Caldari agility is just.. well.. non-existent tbh. We don't like it and it will be looked at (if it hasn't already)."
Incantare Caldari Kernel of War Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.11.29 06:47:00 - [26] A much needed change.
Wu Jiun	Posted - 2007.11.29 07:55:00 - [27] Originally by: Maximillian Dragonard Actually, there was a dev post last week stating that they were needing to look at Caldari agility (or lack of <--his words).. guess they decided to toss it in.. Yeah, that was the agility thing. But looking at the many changes its just not only that. Caldari recieve a big buff on several levels (considering pvp here). I'd like more detail on why certain changes where deemed necessary and some numbers/graphs that explains how it relates to the other races and balance issues. When pulse lasers were nerfed there was a big post about it from a dev who showed that he had put effort and thought into it. Explaining in depth what the problems were and how it should have been and why certain steps were taken instead of other possibilites etc. I haven't seen such things for say the torp buff or the ecm vs. the other ewar. I'd like to get real answers on certain questions. See, last year a myrmidon with 5 x bonused heavy drones, full rack of ion blasters, mwd, cap injector and dual rep tank was balanced. The dronebay was even increased up to 125 instead of 100m¦ after the initial release on sisi. Today its 2 x heavy + 2 x med + 1 x light max - quite an impressive drop in dps. Of course you get spares, but unlike last year you are gonna actually need them because of new drone mechanics. The difference in what is considered balanced is even bigger if you look at the new eos. A torp raven with uber range but bit pathetic dps was balanced. Today a torp raven outdamaging a neutron mega or mp geddon is balanced. My point is not about about the examples i used. Neither am i saying last years balance was better than tomorrows. I am just pointing out that obviously last years balance is very different from tomorrows. So, for this i'd like to hear reasons, pros & cons and some info about "the bigger picture" they might have. All very much missing atm imo.
Polcor Rodal Amarr	Posted - 2007.11.29 09:03:00 - [28] Most people in the game are caldari, or fly caldari ships. You have to keep your customers happy, so in terms of the game caldari wil "get all the cookies". It¦s customer care, nothing personal, just business. If in danger, or in doubt, run in cricles, scream and shout
Disco Flint Caldari Disco Corp.	Posted - 2007.11.29 09:31:00 - [29] Originally by: Polcor Rodal Most people in the game are caldari, or fly caldari ships. You have to keep your customers happy, so in terms of the game caldari wil "get all the cookies". It¦s customer care, nothing personal, just business. Cookies! :D
Malcanis High4Life SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.29 09:37:00 - [30] Originally by: Goumindong Caldari ships get an agility increase. In the patch notes. bugger, now I have to start going to church every day... On the bright side, I hear you get extra tasty bacon from flying pigs. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.

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