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Deschenus Maximus Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.11.29 04:25:00 - [31] Originally by: Aeaus Amarr need a boost? I don't see what you find funny. D-F-C recruitment closed
Aeaus The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2007.11.29 04:27:00 - [32] Originally by: Deschenus Maximus Originally by: Aeaus Amarr need a boost? I don't see what you find funny. Why do Amarr need a Boost?
Deschenus Maximus Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.11.29 04:28:00 - [33] Originally by: Aeaus Originally by: Deschenus Maximus Originally by: Aeaus Amarr need a boost? I don't see what you find funny. Why do Amarr need a Boost? Just read one of the eight gazillion threads on the matter. D-F-C recruitment closed
Aeaus The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2007.11.29 04:31:00 - [34] Just because people whine doesn't make them correct. Amarr have some of the best ships IMHO, sure they might not have the DPS/OMGSPEED/OMGECM appeal of the other races, but they're up there.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2007.11.29 04:32:00 - [35] Originally by: Aeaus Just because people whine doesn't make them correct. Amarr have some of the best ships IMHO, sure they might not have the DPS/OMGSPEED/OMGECM appeal of the other races, but they're up there. its not that they are bad, its that they don't have oomph!
Deschenus Maximus Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.11.29 04:39:00 - [36] Originally by: Aeaus Just because people whine doesn't make them correct. And just because they whine doesn't make them incorrect either. Amarr have real problems. Originally by: Aeaus Amarr have some of the best ships IMHO, sure they might not have the DPS/OMGSPEED/OMGECM appeal of the other races, but they're up there. Sure, they have some of the best ships, but they are armed with something I like to refer to as "lolsers". Personnaly, I could deal with the vulnerability to e-war, the insane fitting reqs, the high amount of SP needed to be effective and the near-total lack of diversity of Amarr ships IF they did what they are supposed to do correctly: tank and gank. Right now, yes, you can tank, but mostly with passive tanks, as active tanking with lasers makes it... ahem... arduous to avoid capout. Not impossible, but not simple, as it should be since Amarr is the "cap race" after all, right? Right guys? Guys? Also, gank is compromised by the total joke that is having EM as a main damage type. D-F-C recruitment closed
Princess Xenia	Posted - 2007.11.29 04:42:00 - [37] Originally by: Aeaus Just because people whine doesn't make them correct. Amarr have some of the best ships IMHO, sure they might not have the DPS/OMGSPEED/OMGECM appeal of the other races, but they're up there. Please enlighten me on: "Amarr have some of the best ships IMHO" What do you mean? What are your personal experiences? How do you make them 'best' when others have lost faith? Which ships are you talking about? Please share your wisedom... Thanks you very much... I just hope your answer wont be something like :"I am not going to tell you how to play noob.. go find out yourself"=... and believe in what I said about Amarr having some of the best ships... because I SAY SO..."
Aeaus The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2007.11.29 04:43:00 - [38] I don't know about you, but "gank" is more then a function of how much DPS you do and the spread, range is a factor. The fact is, you get full DPS on target faster, and plus, EM is only the highest resist when people go for the omni-tank approach without specific hardeners, generally these tanks aren't the strongest :) Also, passive tank is king in PVP, any good PVP group will be using them, explaining the popularity of the neutron plated throns and such.
Aeaus The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2007.11.29 04:44:00 - [39] Originally by: Princess Xenia I just hope your answer wont be something like :"I am not going to tell you how to play noob.. go find out yourself"=... and believe in what I said about Amarr having some of the best ships... because I SAY SO..." Malediction, Armageddon, Abaddon, Archon, Revelation are my personal favorites among their classes. I mostly fly battleships, and well, Abaddon is the king of the hill there :)
Deschenus Maximus Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.11.29 04:54:00 - [40] Originally by: Aeaus I don't know about you, but "gank" is more then a function of how much DPS you do and the spread, range is a factor. The fact is, you get full DPS on target faster, True, but this is compensated by higher cap usage and poorer tracking (and less DPS than blasters). Originally by: Aeaus and plus, EM is only the highest resist when people go for the omni-tank approach without specific hardeners, generally these tanks aren't the strongest :) They may not be the strongest, but they are the most common. Besides, for active hardeners to be better than EANMs, you need 4 slots minimum; in the case of a 3 slot tank, 2x EANM + DCU will give better resists than 3x active hardeners... and EANMS don't use cap... and use less CPU... and make you coffee in the morning after giving you a free BJ... Well, you get the drift. Originally by: Aeaus Also, passive tank is king in PVP, any good PVP group will be using them, explaining the popularity of the neutron plated throns and such. Passive tank is king in gang pvp, yeah (mostly), but for solo, a strong active armour tank will beat a passive armour tank if the pilot knows what he is doing. D-F-C recruitment closed
Steakkbone Helios Incorporated Insurgency	Posted - 2007.11.29 04:55:00 - [41] Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton Originally by: Aeaus Amarr need a boost? no, they need a nerf, they have templars What is that?
Princess Xenia	Posted - 2007.11.29 04:57:00 - [42] Originally by: Aeaus Originally by: Princess Xenia I just hope your answer wont be something like :"I am not going to tell you how to play noob.. go find out yourself"=... and believe in what I said about Amarr having some of the best ships... because I SAY SO..." Malediction, Armageddon, Abaddon, Archon, Revelation are my personal favorites among their classes. I mostly fly battleships, and well, Abaddon is the king of the hill there :) Thanks you... any comments on sub-battleship ships??? The mighty DPS 'can kill nothing' omen??? The tanky 'everyone know its a bait' Maller??? The flexible 'because-of-Gallente-drone' arbitrator??? The 'projectile-minmatar-slave-weapons-fitted' punisher/prophecy and lol apocalypse??? .... I could go on and on.... Any reason why Amarr is only 16% of the Eve population??? Any reason why the most flown Amarr ship are Bestowers??? And its in 6th position... lol.. and only amarr ship in the top ten... Any reason why Armageddon, Abaddon, Archon, Revelation (all big big ships) being 'best in your opinion' should make it 'ok' not to deserve some Dev's attention??? Are you telling me Amarr is fine since you can pilot their battleships and capitals very well??? That other Amarr players who fly mostly sub-battleship do not have any reasons to complain why they are sub-par??
Aeaus The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2007.11.29 05:04:00 - [43] The arbitrator was pretty popular, I'm not sure if anybody seriously will fly it after the bandwidth changes. Absolution, Sacrilege are pretty kickass, Vengeance & Crusader are very nice (in addition to the malediction) in the smaller classes. Frankly, the Harbinger is probably gonna be one of the better BCs after the Myrmidon gets knocked back down to size. Sure, there are some useless ships, but other races have them too. If by following your statistics then one would reason that Caldari are the best race, I hear much whining to the contrary.
Deschenus Maximus Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.11.29 05:16:00 - [44] Originally by: Aeaus The arbitrator was pretty popular, I'm not sure if anybody seriously will fly it after the bandwidth changes. I used 5 meds with it before, now just have more spares. But really, the Arbi is a Gallente ship trying to pose as being part of the Amarr Navy. Originally by: Aeaus Absolution, Sacrilege are pretty kickass, Absolution is second worse for PvP overall, and second worse for PvE overall, and tbh, Khanid ships aren't Amarr; they are Khanid. They are about as Amarr as an arty boat would be Gallente. Originally by: Aeaus Vengeance & Crusader are very nice (in addition to the malediction) in the smaller classes. While yeah, Sader and Mal aren't bad, Vengeance just fails as an AS. lol DPS and all that. Originally by: Aeaus Frankly, the Harbinger is probably gonna be one of the better BCs after the Myrmidon gets knocked back down to size. Still going to be far behind the Cane for PvP, and the Drake for PvE. And Myrm will still be good, just not OMGWTFPWN like before. Originally by: Aeaus Sure, there are some useless ships, but other races have them too. Amarr have the highest ratio of good/suck ships. Originally by: Aeaus If by following your statistics then one would reason that Caldari are the best race, I hear much whining to the contrary. People mistake the lack of SOLO PvP capacity for generic lack of PvP ability. D-F-C recruitment closed
Lithalnas Amarr Headcrabs	Posted - 2007.11.29 05:16:00 - [45] Really the ultimate boost to amarr would be: 50% less build cost on all ships, sorta brings it in line with other ships of a given price range. ------------- fixed for greater eve content
Deschenus Maximus Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.11.29 05:19:00 - [46] Originally by: Lithalnas Really the ultimate boost to amarr would be: 50% less build cost on all ships, sorta brings it in line with other ships of a given price range. D-F-C recruitment closed
Aeaus The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2007.11.29 05:21:00 - [47] shrug The fact that they have good ships is all I'm really concerned about, I'm happy with what I'm trained and really, wouldn't want to change anything :) Amarr need a look at some of their weaker ships, but not these everything and the kitchen sink proposed changes (the only really good one is being the only race to do EM damage).
techzer0 IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2007.11.29 10:27:00 - [48] Originally by: Aeaus shrug The fact that they have good ships is all I'm really concerned about, I'm happy with what I'm trained and really, wouldn't want to change anything :) Amarr need a look at some of their weaker ships, but not these everything and the kitchen sink proposed changes (the only really good one is being the only race to do EM damage). Almost true... any minmatar pilot and any missile user will tell you that you're wrong about being the only EM damage dealer. To the guy that said loldps for the vengeance... yeah, it's a rocket ship... maybe if it had the option of standard missiles like a hawk does it's pretty comparable. ____________________ Hi. I'm not an alt :)
Zenst Gallente Omniscient Order	Posted - 2007.11.29 10:39:00 - [49] Originally by: Princess Xenia From patch notes (http://myeve.eve-online.com/updates/patchnotes.asp?patchlogID=155) module section: òThe descriptions of a number of energy weapons have been modified. Other than that: NOTHING!!! RIEN!!! NADA!!! NICHTS!!! NIENTE!!! τίποτα!!! 没什么!!! 何も!!! 아무것!!! THANK YOU CCP VERY MUCH FOR NOTHING!!! Well given all the Amarr flames in galante ship threads all I can say is that I still fit hybrids on my prophecy and way it stands, always will. -- I feel your pain, now reach out and touch somebody else :D.
Lord WarATron Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.11.29 12:00:00 - [50] Originally by: techzer0 Edited by: techzer0 on 29/11/2007 02:39:00 Hmm... this is why we love Amarr players, they're the first to post "OMG CCP YOU SUCK". And it takes 2 seconds to reload crystals vs 10 seconds to reload guns to change range, oh no? Hello, Lets say I change from 8 Multis to 8 Aurora L's. Hmm looks like the way ccp designed crystals in this game is to force them to go into different stacks, unlike conventianal ammo. 8 aurora L's are all in different stacks, just to add to the lag factor. Anyway, I mass spamm change crystal on each turret after 2 seconds 1st aurora l is fitted, rest slots is empty. Wow, looks like all 8 slots are trying to fir the same crystal. So changing 8 Crystals can take longer than changing 8 conventional ammo in many cases, simply because you have to wait for a crystal to be loaded before inserting the next one. Or you can mass spam change ammo and then hit CRTL-R, but again, that often results in turret trying to load the same crystal. Anyhow, as both a Hybrid and a Crystal user, Crystal Reloading time is of 0 benifit unless you have only 1 single turret, such as a bestower. Also crystals cost a lot more, and Most amarr players carry at least 16-32 crystals (8 Long, 8 backup for long and rest short). Typical players deal in crystal carog is pretty much the same as a raven pilot dropping 16,000+ t2 torps. -- Billion Isk Mission

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