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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.12.03 01:16:00 -
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Originally by: Jowen Datloran If Jita wasn't around, I wouldn't bother with tech 2 production.
jita will always stay lets make it better ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here  Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem |

Zinras
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Posted - 2007.12.03 01:29:00 -
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Fly a Titan to every warpable object in Jita and set off DDDs 5 times per day at random intervals. While it would solve nothing, as a hub would be set up somewhere else, it sure would be funny.
Otherwise, just pull the plug on whatever server that handles the Jita area during peak hours on a sunday, while as many people as possible are still in there 
Again, it solves nothing in the long run but at least people would cry about something else for a change 
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goodby4u
Logistic Technologies Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.12.03 01:57:00 -
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Originally by: Val Vympel Concerning Jita(Humor)
I think CCP should announce that Caldari scientists have discovered that Jita's star is unstable and will go supernova in 30 days or less...leaving all of the Jita system a blasted ruin. CONCORD/Caldari Navy etc. pull out to insure the safety of their fleets...leaving Jita a lawless hellhole for the remainder of it's misbegotten life.
Imagine the chaos as all the "lemmings" try to bail out and move all their goods before it goes BOOM. Imagine the "Pirate" feeding frenzy after CONCORD withdraws. Imagine the forum threads of all those who "didn't make it" and were caught in the blast.
Anybody who has any experience or knowledge of MMO's should already know that "trade hubs" are always "lag pits" and I will never understand why the player base continues to make the same mistakes.(and then rant and rage about it)
As if making a ONE jump to Perimeter or another adjacent system to buy/sell goods would be out of the question.

This,i would go there not to kill people but to watch the cluster****
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Lithalnas
Amarr Headcrabs
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Posted - 2007.12.03 02:01:00 -
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remove sunday? -------------
fixed for greater eve content |

Araxmas
The Blue Dagger Mercenery Agency
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Posted - 2007.12.03 02:26:00 -
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Originally by: xJohnnyDx I like seeing all the Jita cry threads. Reminds how good I have it, since every time I go in, I don't lag.
P.S. - Hi Anarchyyt :)
Ditto on that, never really lag in Jita. --------
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Del Narveux
Dukes of Hazard
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Posted - 2007.12.03 02:33:00 -
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Ill start off by mentioning that Interbus is actually an extremely good idea, for reasons that anyone who's ever messed with player courier missions will be familiar with, but it wouldnt really do anything about the jita issue. But heres some stuff that they can and should do to cut down on lag
1. Give autopilot the ability to avoid a list of user-defined systems. Given the choice, most people would not want to AP through jita if its not their destination.
2. No missions in jita! Move all the agents out, and remove it from the list of mission locations.
3. Pretty sure one of the starter systems is like 1 jump away, maybe hook it up to a different system.
4. Make a special 'commercial station' that has multiple exits for ships, turn 4-4 into one of these.
5. Is it possible to put just the station on their own node? Cause a lot of people have alts that never undock and just check prices and stuff, if they had their very own lil node or something that might help too.
OP is right, jita is never going to go away, but we should take measures to make it more of a pure trade hub like Yulai was back in the day, not trade+missions+through-traffic+altspam+LAG. Cause aside from more players now (which is a big deal), the main difference between Yulai and Jita is Yulai was kind of in the middle of nowhere so not much going on, but being in the middle of caldari space Jita has all sorts of normal highsec activities associated with it. _________________ [SAK] Alumnus--And Proud Of It! -- aka Cpt Bogus Is that my torped sig cloaking your base?
Originally by: Wrangler Well, at least we have forum PvP..
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.12.04 17:56:00 -
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Originally by: Del Narveux Ill start off by mentioning that Interbus is actually an extremely good idea, for reasons that anyone who's ever messed with player courier missions will be familiar with, but it wouldnt really do anything about the jita issue. But heres some stuff that they can and should do to cut down on lag
1. Give autopilot the ability to avoid a list of user-defined systems. Given the choice, most people would not want to AP through jita if its not their destination.
2. No missions in jita! Move all the agents out, and remove it from the list of mission locations.
3. Pretty sure one of the starter systems is like 1 jump away, maybe hook it up to a different system.
4. Make a special 'commercial station' that has multiple exits for ships, turn 4-4 into one of these.
5. Is it possible to put just the station on their own node? Cause a lot of people have alts that never undock and just check prices and stuff, if they had their very own lil node or something that might help too.
OP is right, jita is never going to go away, but we should take measures to make it more of a pure trade hub like Yulai was back in the day, not trade+missions+through-traffic+altspam+LAG. Cause aside from more players now (which is a big deal), the main difference between Yulai and Jita is Yulai was kind of in the middle of nowhere so not much going on, but being in the middle of caldari space Jita has all sorts of normal highsec activities associated with it.
all good ideas
something else that CCP may consider that would reduce database calls as much as the little drone change for twice the rof and twice the damage - is making a little button on the market page that is set to default as off when clicked it would refresh as much as it does now but the default would always be off when someone logs on - meaning it would not update any more than every five minutes or even longer - in a place like jita this would mean many less server calls - it would hardly be a hassle to click this button for those who are active in the market
unfortunately an afk auto log off timer is something that would only detract from the game for many pvp players and would not be a good idea ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here  Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem |

An Anarchyyt
Gallente Sublime.
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Posted - 2007.12.04 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: SiJira what would you do to reinforce jita as the trade hub but remove people that dont need to be there
Put all the CONCORD ships under the manual control of a ***** team of system moderators.
There was a time when once Dev Controlled CONCORD ships went somewhere. It didn't go over too well.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.12.04 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: An Anarchyyt
Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: SiJira what would you do to reinforce jita as the trade hub but remove people that dont need to be there
Put all the CONCORD ships under the manual control of a ***** team of system moderators.
There was a time when once Dev Controlled CONCORD ships went somewhere. It didn't go over too well.
sure it did
people whined ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here  Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem |

Xaen
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.12.07 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: Mangala Solaris For all these idea's that endless people put forward, they tend to overlook one thing, Jita is not CCP's fault, they do their best to alleviate the issues created by players doing all their trading in one place.
If the playerbase wants less lag in Jitamart, then its down to the playerbase to learn to sell elsewhere - like the other hubs.

See my sig for further information.
Support fixing the EVE UI | Suggest Jita fixes If you'd suicide gank yourself for what you're hauling, don't.
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2007.12.07 18:58:00 -
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An increase in taxes as a function of system's popularity and its duration. Eventually taxes get so high people have to move to stay competitive.
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Syraine
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Posted - 2007.12.07 19:10:00 -
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what would help a lot for Jita would be to create more connections around it. Give us ways to get avoid Jita by connecting surrounding systems to each other? If I have a courier mission that takes me from Jatate to Kusomonmon. Here is the basic path I need to take:
Jatate Itamo Maurasi Jita Perimeter Urlen Kusomonmon
So take Jita out of the trip, if you think its unfair to make them shorter, then create a few systems that have nothing in them but stargates and let me take an extra jump in that system and avoid Jita.
Also quit making kill missions that send me into Jita!
Unless I am picking something up I have bought, I DO NOT want to be in Jita, EVER. The problem is, it is a travel hub for a lot of places. You simply cannot get *some* places without it. to give us better ways to avoid it, and it will be less crowded for the people buying/selling there.
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McScruff
Grudjorn Logistics
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Posted - 2007.12.07 19:13:00 -
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For the love of god, just make it posible for people to travel accross Caldari space without having to choose between Jita or a massive detour? ______________________________________
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