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Necronomicon Caldari KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.03 11:28:00 - [1] Tier 2 Battleships You can fit 2 Ravens or Tempests in a carrier ship bay, but you cannot fit 2 Apocs or Megathrons. Seems a bit perculiar that all Tier 2 BSs are not below the 500,000m3 barrier. KIA - Don't ask me, I was off grid.
bobtheminer Seven. Enuma Elish.	Posted - 2007.12.03 12:44:00 - [2] u can also fit 2 of any teir 3 bs bar the hyperion, unless its changed since i loged into sisi 3-4 days ago
bobtheminer Seven. Enuma Elish.	Posted - 2007.12.03 14:15:00 - [3] would a dev care to comment?, not the biggist issue in the world, but an annoying 1
Gaogan Gallente Solar Storm Sev3rance	Posted - 2007.12.03 21:27:00 - [4] Yea, I thought the idea was that you should be able to fit two tier 1 BS, but not tier 2 or 3. Whether the threshold is tier 1 or 2, it should be the same for all 4 races.
Pociomundo Knights of Chaos Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.12.03 21:29:00 - [5] Trinity isn't Gallente :(
Necronomicon Caldari KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.04 11:33:00 - [6] Back to the top? Dev comment pls? KIA - Don't ask me, I was off grid.
Viper G	Posted - 2007.12.04 11:40:00 - [7] /signed either fix battleships or give gallente carriers enough room for 2 gallente battleships
Chruker	Posted - 2007.12.04 12:03:00 - [8] Where as volume didn't have the big impact before the patch, since no ship could carry BS'es anyway. It will matter if you can carry 1 or 2 battleships per haul. So signed. ----- http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online ----- Top wishes: - No daily downtime - Faster training on sisi - Speedup IGB table rendering
Chruker	Posted - 2007.12.04 12:09:00 - [9] Complete list of battleships bigger than 500.000 m3 on sisi atm.: Apocalypse Apocalypse Imperial Issue (the really rare one, if they are even in the game) Hyperion Megathron Megathron Federate Issue (also really rare, dunno if there are any of those ingame) Bhaalgorn So instead of just lowering all battleships volume to 45% of their original size, they should have lowered them by 45% to 55% depending on how much is needed to get under 500.000 m3 ----- http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online ----- Top wishes: - No daily downtime - Faster training on sisi - Speedup IGB table rendering
Sleepkevert Rionnag Alba	Posted - 2007.12.04 14:06:00 - [10] Originally by: #eve chaos [12:12:59] [+Chruker] oneiromancer, who is in charge of the balancing team? I'm wondering about the new battleships' volumes. Most battleships are below 500.000 but 3 of the common ones are above, which mean that you can only haul one of those where you can haul 2x of others with a carrier. [12:13:39] [&Oneiromancer] I asked Fendahl and he said it's by design... This was said in IRC this afternoon. I seriously doubt it's going to change anytime soon.. _______ Sign my sig!

Cadiz Caldari No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2007.12.04 15:12:00 - [11] Originally by: Sleepkevert Originally by: #eve chaos [12:12:59] [+Chruker] oneiromancer, who is in charge of the balancing team? I'm wondering about the new battleships' volumes. Most battleships are below 500.000 but 3 of the common ones are above, which mean that you can only haul one of those where you can haul 2x of others with a carrier. [12:13:39] [&Oneiromancer] I asked Fendahl and he said it's by design... This was said in IRC this afternoon. I seriously doubt it's going to change anytime soon.. That strikes me as rather nonsensical. As if the Apoc needed another strike arguing against its usage over the 'Geddon or the Abaddon. ------ Director, No Quarter "There is no problem that cannot be solved by the judicious application of violence."
bobtheminer Seven. Enuma Elish.	Posted - 2007.12.04 17:53:00 - [12] man id love to hear the reasons behind this nerf
Wu Jiun	Posted - 2007.12.04 18:22:00 - [13] Originally by: bobtheminer man id love to hear the reasons behind this nerf Design reasons. What else?
bobtheminer Seven. Enuma Elish.	Posted - 2007.12.04 18:29:00 - [14] mmmm was more woundering what made the mega hyp and apoc so much more powerfull than the abaddon malestrom tempest raven and rohk that they needed this handicap
Vrenth Gallente 23rd Armor Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.04 18:33:00 - [15] Originally by: bobtheminer man id love to hear the reasons behind this nerf I love how they give us the ability to put them in the carrier AT ALL and you complain about a change not allowing you to have two of the same t2-3 ship in there. They likely made it based on the actual ship size. You can still put 2 BS in a carrier even if you use one of those ships, yo just have to make the other one a lighter one. Be happy with what you get. Making a suggestion or asking to decrease the size is okay, but don't DEMAND anything or sarcastically ask for a reason behind their "stupidity" (which isn't stupidity, as I'm sure there is a good reason). People can't be greatful for anything, I swear.
Ezekiel Sulastin Gallente Eve University	Posted - 2007.12.04 19:49:00 - [16] Originally by: Vrenth Originally by: bobtheminer man id love to hear the reasons behind this nerf I love how they give us the ability to put them in the carrier AT ALL and you complain about a change not allowing you to have two of the same t2-3 ship in there. They likely made it based on the actual ship size. You can still put 2 BS in a carrier even if you use one of those ships, yo just have to make the other one a lighter one. Be happy with what you get. Making a suggestion or asking to decrease the size is okay, but don't DEMAND anything or sarcastically ask for a reason behind their "stupidity" (which isn't stupidity, as I'm sure there is a good reason). People can't be greatful for anything, I swear. Maybe because it's another blow against Gallente or was implemented in a fashion that makes little sense to the majority of the playerbase?
rValdez5987 Amarr Asylum Research and Development Legion of Honor	Posted - 2007.12.04 20:08:00 - [17] Quote: I love how they give us the ability to put them in the carrier AT ALL and you complain about a change not allowing you to have two of the same t2-3 ship in there. They likely made it based on the actual ship size. You can still put 2 BS in a carrier even if you use one of those ships, yo just have to make the other one a lighter one. Be happy with what you get. Making a suggestion or asking to decrease the size is okay, but don't DEMAND anything or sarcastically ask for a reason behind their "stupidity" (which isn't stupidity, as I'm sure there is a good reason). People can't be greatful for anything, I swear. I agree. Everyone complains about nerfs too. As long as the game is fair, thats what matters. I like where its gone since I started playing sporadically a couple years ago.
Kodiak31415 An Eye For An Eye Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.12.04 21:15:00 - [18] Edited by: Kodiak31415 on 04/12/2007 21:15:42 Dev response from SISI as to wether or not these ships are going to get unnerfed: Kodiak31415 > I know this isnt the proper way to do this, but do any of the ccp guys know if the mega, hype, and apoc hulls are going to get reduced to 500km3 or below? CCP Mr T > I don't believe so kodiak All I want is to hear a reason for keeping these ships "nerfed". Is that too much to ask? _______________________________ Pleese exucse any seplling erorr's in tihs psot


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