The forums are currently filled with tears, rage and a generally feeling that high sec is getting screwed by the current CSM. This has peaked my interest because to date, I have seen no evidence of the Mittani or other CSM members causing high sec to be nerfed. Please answer the following if you can:

1. What has been "nerfed" in high sec recently as a direct result of the CSM? More to the point, what in high sec has been nerfed recently, regardless of CSM involvement?

2. Why the hate on the Mittani? Despite my personal views on Goons, I think he has done a pretty good job, but it seems that tons of you disagree with this, why?

3. Why the rage over CSM candidates playstyles? Although I might not be a scammer or a so called "griefer", I understand that they are valid playstyles, and therefore deserve CSM representation if enough people get behind a candidate to make them a CSM.

4. Do people not understand why more people in null are motivated to vote, and why we have a largely (not completely) null sec based CSM (hint is has nothing to do with moon goo, if you don't understand it, please don't sperge about it)? Why are people claiming that the 66% of characters in high sec means that high sec should have automatically get representation?

I know I will get trolled to high heaven, but I'm genuinely interested in what people have to say about the above.

The main beef with a lot of people is that Mighty Mittans is only interested in nullsec and not interested in lowsec/highsec.

Secondly he wears the title of CSM chairman but he actively scams people using that title which is not what it was invented for.

and he and his neckbeard army get the drop on all future plans for the game far in advance of everyone else and his alliance is there to ruin the gameplay of other people.

Stuff like that

1. Insurance payouts. That was a silly (but strangely common sense) nerf

The main beef with a lot of people is that Mighty Mittans is only interested in nullsec and not interested in lowsec/highsec.

Secondly he wears the title of CSM chairman but he actively scams people using that title which is not what it was invented for.

and he and his neckbeard army get the drop on all future plans for the game far in advance of everyone else and his alliance is there to ruin the gameplay of other people.

Stuff like that

The main beef with a lot of people is that Mighty Mittans is only interested in nullsec and not interested in lowsec/highsec.

Secondly he wears the title of CSM chairman but he actively scams people using that title which is not what it was invented for.

and he and his neckbeard army get the drop on all future plans for the game far in advance of everyone else and his alliance is there to ruin the gameplay of other people.

Stuff like that

Nerfing insurance payouts on suicide ganking is actually a highsec buff.

Unless there's a conspiracy which I am not aware of.

There are no CCP rules regarding what the CSM and CSM chairs must be interested in. It's also silly to think that there could be even an way to make sure an CSM person keeps interest in everything uniformly.

He has never scammed anyone using the title, heck he tends to stay out of getting involved in scams directly but often is implicated indirectly.

Right, because goons clearly forsaw the future plan was to nerf tech moons, so they decided to take a region full of tech moons?

[quote=Messoroz][quote=Karn Dulake][quote=Chiggy W]The forums are currently filled with tears, rage and a generally feeling that high sec is getting screwed by the current CSM. This has peaked my interest because to date, I have seen no evidence of the Mittani or other CSM members causing high sec to be nerfed. Please answer the following if you can:

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None of what you said matters, its what a lot of people believe and thats the nub of it

None of what you said matters, its what a lot of people believe and thats the nub of it

Unlimited source of income with little effort (High-Sec Incursion) under Concord protection is a high-sec buff.

Unlimited?! Well in that case let me head to high sec and... oh wait. Looks like the Incursions don't last forever. Looks like another goon lying about game mechanics. DOH!

1. I am unaware of any scams he has been involved in, especially one involving the CSM title, please provide evidence/info

CSM History

The Mittani has been chairman of the CSM for 3 Years Running now. He has substantial power over changes in EvE. He is known for his Anti-Scamming Regimes and Support for Balancing of Supercapitals

3rd Party Services

The Mittani is a well known and Often used 3rd Party for the past 4 Years, He has secured +10 Trillion isk in Trades of Super Capitals and Titans. He was famous for securing the trade of Shrike's Avatar one of the first avatars built and often Vouched for by Other Popular 3rd Parties

As for Mittens scamming using his CSM chair status, there was this wonderful thread a while back

The luxury of my popularity is that I don't have to bother lying to my voters about who and what I am. You get exactly what you voted for: a manipulative sadist who makes no apologies for who or what he is.

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I ran for CSM on a platform of explicitly being a manipulative bastard, because it takes someone like me to actually bring CCP around to reason.

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Every CSM represents their own constituents. Some have delusions about 'representing everyone'. I do not.

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I'd kind of like to see Learning Implants vanish ........ However, this isn't really a major priority for me. I might bring it over beer in Islenskibarinn, but it's not going to be a summit topic and something I expend vast amounts of political capital on, like I have on supercaps.

One CSM stated a point in favor of removing learning implants, as that would be a nerf to highsec income, and he is always in favor of those where possible. Other members of the CSM were quick to object to that suggestion. Another CSM objected to "his peeps being thrown under the bus".

The key question that council members must consider before casting their vote is whether or not the issue at hand has the potential to improve or otherwise benefit the entire EVE society, and not just a select group within the community that was successful in bringing attention to their unique case. Seeing the big pictureGÇöin this case, the needs of a society with over 300.000 individualsGÇöis the primary responsibility of a CSM Representative, and reconciling that view with the interests that won them the election is the greatest challenge they will facein this implementation.

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CCP is unable to accommodate any issue considered detrimental to the collective interests of EVE , particularly if the issue(s) touch upon meta-level concerns.

The CSM aren't dev's, they cant give you the features or new toys that you long for. They can only deliver a message on our behalf that we the great and grand majority want the ' F ' in FIS to be flying and not fashion. ( Although I think i'd look Boss in a Sombrero or Stetson ) . The more clearly and somewhat aggressively they can deliver that message the more in space content will get fixed, balanced, buffed, and developed.

And that can be done by getting 25% of the vote from last election (So if 40,000 voted; 10,000 needs to support) a thread in the Assembly Hall. Then the CSM is forced to discuss it at the next CSM meeting.

It is in the hands of the players. They very often choose not to do a single thing about it.

Except whine.