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Xinth
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Posted - 2004.03.09 18:37:00 -
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Just curious - which alliance is considered to be the best organized in military aspects, wins most fleet battles etc.
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2004.03.09 18:39:00 -
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CA have been the top of this poll for along time.
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pooti
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Posted - 2004.03.09 19:05:00 -
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skill in alliances is a thing of the past
now it's just who can mine the biggest fleets.
blobs of miners with guns.
but i guess in terms of people ive flown with or against (ive flown with ca and fe, and against sa, fa, cfs, xetic, the late ors, and arcadia) i have the most respect for either what remains of cfs or ca (almost solely because of arcane tech)
the individual pvp megacorps seem to be the best organized and most successful battle to battle
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Zloba
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Posted - 2004.03.09 19:05:00 -
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CA
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2004.03.09 19:07:00 -
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CA.
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Trooble
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Posted - 2004.03.09 19:10:00 -
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lol, look at all the CA monkeys big themselves up 
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.03.09 20:10:00 -
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CA and SA. Simply because they've been in a state of war since their beginings.
Also i'd like to point out i am a total carebear miner and i could never compare to the awesome pvp skills of m0o.
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2004.03.09 21:15:00 -
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lol, look at all the CA monkeys big themselves up
Numpty Alt alert!!!
My money says its Switchblade's (no idea how your noob ass spells it)
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Chode Rizoum
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Posted - 2004.03.09 21:18:00 -
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Centuria > whoot?
Centuria > you stalking me? :)
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mk ultra
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Posted - 2004.03.09 21:24:00 -
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lol 
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ketamineReality
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Posted - 2004.03.09 21:26:00 -
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r0fl alliance is mighty.
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Antinea
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Posted - 2004.03.09 21:44:00 -
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Jericho Fraction
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2004.03.09 21:54:00 -
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Edited by: Morkt Drak on 09/03/2004 21:55:14
nm read Q wrong.
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.03.09 22:00:00 -
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Fear my rifter
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Reah
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Posted - 2004.03.09 22:02:00 -
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ill answer what everyone else answers
<insert my alliance here> is the strongest alliance in eve imho
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Araviel
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Posted - 2004.03.09 22:10:00 -
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hate to say it, but yes- of the regional alliances i think CA is the strongest, thats because of large numbers and enourmos resources,
SA got good skills imho, but cant match the wealth of the curse alliance, same whit us i guess :
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Pogy Bait
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Posted - 2004.03.09 22:54:00 -
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I find it ineresting that CA is lambasted for commenting on this topic. CA is a military alliance (mostly) so why would a fighter's opinion not have value?
You are free to disagree, but this does not make CA opinions wrong (after all, it's just an opinion right? No real way to prove any of it).
Pogy Bait
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Damaclease
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Posted - 2004.03.09 23:36:00 -
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definatly CA (cAKe Alliance) from dimension X
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2004.03.09 23:46:00 -
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who knows next months will bring alot to this arguement
STAN
FACTA NON VERBA |
StoreSlem
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Posted - 2004.03.09 23:48:00 -
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FA because they have me.
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Robotek Hybrid
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Posted - 2004.03.10 00:10:00 -
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i like the rsa alliance cuz they got balls
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Moah
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Posted - 2004.03.10 00:19:00 -
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RSA got balls ? nice joke..
I think the best pvp pilots are in SA and CA, but CA has lot more member/pilots, so they are imho stronger... 
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Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.03.10 01:18:00 -
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Well, pound for pound SA has far superiour fighters and are usually more oragnized, but CA has a fare share of good fighters and vastly superior numbers, although, they tend to be less organized because of it. So its skill and coordination vs sheer numbers with some skill thrown in here and there. CA also has a key advantage at the moment, they have C4 to do thier work for them, and C4 includes some truly excellent fighters. Without C4, specifically Omega Corp, which used to be part of SA, CA would be no better of then anyone else. But that is my opinion based on what I've faced on the fronts (yes, plural, and I'm none to happy about that).
I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer... |
Robotek Hybrid
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Posted - 2004.03.10 01:43:00 -
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RSA got balls ? nice joke..
I think the best pvp pilots are in SA and CA, but CA has lot more member/pilots, so they are imho stronger...
thanx im in ca 
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Kurenin
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Posted - 2004.03.10 02:04:00 -
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Feel free to use this template.
By far the [your alliance] [own/crush] the [other alliance] every [day/week/month] we [play blob wars/gank indys/play blob wars] and completely [pwn/r0x0r] because we are [the oldest/the best/most experienced/the largest/the r0x0r] and the [other alliance] [suck/are crap/arent worth typing about].
'cause [last night/last week] we [gathered/called to arms] a [huge force/small elite bunch/ub3r l33t r0x0r gr0up] of [1-5/6-10/11-15/16-20/21-25/26+] [battleships/cruisers/frigates/industrials/shuttles/pods] and completely [wtfpwned/crushed/decimated] the [roids/trade markets/forums/[other alliance]] despite the huge [lag/resistance from [other alliance]/laagggggggg!!11/LAGGGG111!!1].
In conclusion, [your alliance] is the best.
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[22:02] <Kurenin> anyhow, on a more serious note, what did you think of those ideas?
[22:02] <Hammerhead> we can't do anything that requires programming
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Kurenin
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Posted - 2004.03.10 02:09:00 -
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Edited by: Kurenin on 10/03/2004 02:10:31
EG. a CA person may post;
By far the [CA] [own] the [SA] every [day] we [play blob wars] and completely [pwn] because we are [the r0x0r] and the [SA] [suck].
'cause [last night] we [called to arms] a [huge force] of [26+] [battleships] and completely [wtfpwned] the [[SA]] despite the huge [LAGGGG111!!1].
In conclusion, [CA] is the best.
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[22:02] <Kurenin> anyhow, on a more serious note, what did you think of those ideas?
[22:02] <Hammerhead> we can't do anything that requires programming
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Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.03.10 02:40:00 -
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ROFL, Calvert, Reclaimer, and Lallante, someone is stealing your modus operendai! Pod them at once!
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2004.03.10 03:34:00 -
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Damn, my uber secert macro poster app was jacked. Back to the drawing boards.....
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Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.03.10 04:05:00 -
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*chokes on a pretzel* ACK! Did the Reclaimer, lord of flames, trollings and general smack talk just make a joke! Holy **** i cant beleiv it.
(Note: Yes, choking on a pretzel is about the stupid thing one can do. yes in real life I did choke on a pretzel. President Bush is now has company in that department. I am aware I post a lot of stupid childish bull**** on the forums, but you have to admit, a lot of it is funny. So uhhh... yah... Bite someone, just not me.)
I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer... |
Celticjim
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Posted - 2004.03.10 04:54:00 -
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I am biased, but I would have to say the SA. When the group wants to come together, it is really impressive on what they can achieve.
The biggest problem with SA is the bloody mineral situation. As former CEO of one of the SA corps, it's bloody tough to get people to come out to defend veld, plag, and pyro.
The thing in their favour, is that although the mineral distribution currently stinks, when they do come out, they come out usually in a pretty good force. It's still not uncommon to see SA gangs form being representative of all the corps, and not just one or two corps making up the bulk of the fighting force.
On a personal note, my only regret is the feeling I let them down on more than one occassion and wish them the best.
CA has great numbers, and it will prove to be interesting fights should minerals be rejigged.
Cheers
CJ
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.03.10 06:07:00 -
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Edited by: ProphetGuru on 10/03/2004 06:11:32
I've fought for, and against, quite a few alliances.
CA-pre castor. Other then atuk, they pretty much had nothing impressive going for em, other then the brief time m0o was up there.
Post castor, OC gave them a big boost (even though I do not like saying anything remotely good about em ) However, they became a bit bloated at this time as well, focusing on blobs and numbers to do what tactics and experience couldn't. Not sure if they let in a bunch of mining corps as has been rumored or what, but the quality of the alliance as a whole seemed to drop, and unless you ran into a bunch of atuk or oc, you didn't have much to worry about.
Still, to be fair, they are without a doubt the strongest alliance currently ingame.
PA- hrm. A few decent fighters, but all in all, seems to lack any sort of coordination in combat. Over reliance on ecm, tend to lose it when ecm not working for em. Over reliance on caldari ships. Makes preparing for combat easy when you know 75% of the fleet will be scorp/raven.
F-E Not a lot of experience with em. In limited encounters it seems they to have a rather large overreliance on caldari ships, and are very much into the whole... lets get 40 pilots together and sit here and smacktalk. Their only real tactic so far seems to be... let's put ecm'ers at 180k cyclejamming. It is a valid tactic tho. Probably a result of fighting NVA/PA so long I would imagine. That being said, they seem to be able to muster a considerable force of ships relatively quickly. Jury still out on em in my book, due to lack of sufficient experience with em.
FA- fought with. However, was a long time ago, and I hear they have come a long way. Don't feel my past experiences would apply to them in their current form.
SA Fought with them b4. Some decent fighters. Decent command and control, but could use improvement imho. Seems, imho that certain corps carry the biggest load of pvp fighting. Need someone to rally around. That being said, they have a lot of older experienced players, that have been fighting for a long time. Never underestimate SA, as they seem to pull a magic trick out of the hat at the most opportune(sic) times.
CFS know nothing about em.
All this being said, I don't think their is any alliance that can enforce their "claim" of a region, and corps like m0o and evol can pretty much do as they wish inside of them, due to simple logistical nightmares that alliances are.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.03.10 06:27:00 -
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There is little tactic for an alliance to gather up a big blob, that si just, well a blob.
IMO I think FA has used the best fleet battle tactic done by any allaince, that is not a statement but mearly my opionion from what I have seen in the last months, but it took them several weeks to develop it and they suffered heavy losses but succeded in the end, after we got bored.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2004.03.10 06:49:00 -
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Last time we had this discussion, the general consensus was that the FA was most powerful.
Within a week, they'd been obliterated by mOo.
Does anyone really WANT to claim that they're the best military force out there? 
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.03.10 07:04:00 -
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Quote:
Last time we had this discussion, the general consensus was that the FA was most powerful.
Within a week, they'd been obliterated by mOo.
Does anyone really WANT to claim that they're the best military force out there?
Nah, they werent obliterated by us, but they suffered heavy casualties, we had our few weeks of fun and left, FA fought FE and when FE had their fun they left as well.
FA now has much better tactics and is building up again, they lost alot of ISK but gained priceless expiriance wich will allow them to fight with less losses, so in the end they gained alot imo, fun and expiriance.
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Propehcy
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Posted - 2004.03.10 08:55:00 -
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FA because they have me.
CA, because we Don't Have you :)
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Zelota
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Posted - 2004.03.10 09:29:00 -
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all your eve are belong to ca
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DirtyHarry
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Posted - 2004.03.10 09:48:00 -
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CA
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.03.10 10:08:00 -
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Last time we had this discussion, the general consensus was that the FA was most powerful.
Within a week, they'd been obliterated by mOo.
Does anyone really WANT to claim that they're the best military force out there?
Would make us next considering opinions on this thread, granted many are from CA pilots but what can u expect... I've said my own alliance, and the alliance that i fight against daily, its our opinions ur after and thats based on our experiences.
Nice post btw Prophet, and i'm not just saying that b/c u were nice to oc (it's becomming a habbit of recent fella, i'm sure we'll get back to smack talking one another once fireworks start tho).
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.03.10 10:28:00 -
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Morning.
Heres how it goes, EVEs trend lately has been if they have 10 ships, u get 30, which is totally crap. u very rarely get groups of 10v10 and so on.
As for the best alliance, i say none, Alliance that can get the most PPL in short space of time?, would prob have to be CA, but darn, do they do it overkill.
u can send in 10 BS and before u know it they muster EVER ship they can. fairish fights dont happen, which i think is a shame.
i know that they are just looking to protect their borders, but camping the same system for hours on end must be boring as hell, and im soooo glad CELES moved away from this.
i say large PVP corps rule EVE, they have the most kills and the less losses. and are prob the best fighters, but if u had to twist my arm, id say CA are best of a bad bunch.
d solo.
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PropanElgen
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Posted - 2004.03.10 10:32:00 -
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F-E Not a lot of experience with em. In limited encounters it seems they to have a rather large overreliance on caldari ships, and are very much into the whole... lets get 40 pilots together and sit here and smacktalk. Their only real tactic so far seems to be... let's put ecm'ers at 180k cyclejamming. It is a valid tactic tho. Probably a result of fighting NVA/PA so long I would imagine. That being said, they seem to be able to muster a considerable force of ships relatively quickly. Jury still out on em in my book, due to lack of sufficient experience with em.
You arent really updated are you?
Forsaken Empire is a corp. This corp is a member of the Curse Alliance.
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.03.10 10:41:00 -
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its true, attacking is far easier than defending at the momment. Especially because you choose (for the most part) when and where to fight.
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p0ma
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Posted - 2004.03.10 11:27:00 -
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Gold goes to CA. I think CA are phenominally effective considering their 'issues' of organization. As many know, CA has always relied on our Russian comrades as a significant part of our military. I shouldn't have to tell you how hard it can be dealing with such a large language barrier. Only a third of the Russians speak English as far as I can tell. But we don't tease them...oh no....them Russians are quite the opponent :)(/me fluffles Zloba & Friends)
Silver goes to CFS. CFS, in their glory days. Pacifists really, but maaaaaaan were they organized. They'll always be remembered by me as the most fanatically organized alliance in EVE *and* proportionally the least effective military-wise.
Bronze goes to SA I suppose. They have above average organization and abover average effectiveness. Unfortunately neither being high enough above average to earn them a Silver cookie.
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TIvian
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Posted - 2004.03.10 11:27:00 -
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Hmmm, seeing alot of "CA have numbers and a few good PvPers" comments. I really dont give a ratz azz what other people think. I have watched alliances come and go. and I have seen them change and re-org. but you know what? we have not changed. and like the saying goes some days you eat the bear and some days he eats you. but I know that we have "eaten the Bear" more then he has eaten us.
I am not going to say that we are the strongest or the best.
I am going to say that we have more skilled fighters then any other alliance in this game.
I will how ever give a thumbs up and a shout out to Fountain Alliance for withstanding the onslaught that m0o put them through and still standing as tall as they are.
(\_/)
(O.o)
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IIIIIIIII
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Posted - 2004.03.10 11:31:00 -
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the CA isn't good.
it's big.
there's a difference. |
TIvian
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Posted - 2004.03.10 11:31:00 -
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the CA isn't good.
it's big.
there's a difference.
Whatever hooker. your just jealous
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2004.03.10 12:07:00 -
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the CA isn't good.
it's big.
there's a difference.
Evolution isnt special
its pompous
M0o is better
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.03.10 12:13:00 -
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Edited by: Reverend Necrona on 10/03/2004 12:15:33
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the CA isn't good.
it's big.
there's a difference.
Pre-castor you could have gotten away with that, but to frank, you guys were sent packing - i don't expect u to admit that, you guys have trouble admitting weakness, trying really hard not to insult you here but ya know, sometimes you don't do yourselves any favours.
It's not a brilliant thing to be up your own ass, its even worse when you have nothing to be up your ass about. heh.
Anyways - come down to curse and see how good we aint.
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Nirvy
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Posted - 2004.03.10 13:02:00 -
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the CA isn't good.
it's big.
there's a difference.
Your clueless.
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Kurenin
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Posted - 2004.03.10 13:48:00 -
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No one is using my post template 
Oh well, the CA people sorta used something similar it seems.
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Maasu
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Posted - 2004.03.10 14:03:00 -
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No one is using my post template
Oh well, the CA people sorta used something similar it seems.
As i said earleir, people can only express opinion based on experience (regarding something like this) and most of the CA only see themselves and SA in combat, so there you go. Kinda pointless thread admitedlly.
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.03.10 14:04:00 -
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Quote:
Quote:
No one is using my post template
Oh well, the CA people sorta used something similar it seems.
As i said earleir, people can only express opinion based on experience (regarding something like this) and most of the CA only see themselves and SA in combat, so there you go. Kinda pointless thread admitedlly.
Soz posted that with wrong character not attempting to confuse anyone :(
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Saladin
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Posted - 2004.03.10 14:13:00 -
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Edited by: Saladin on 10/03/2004 14:14:24
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hate to say it, but yes- of the regional alliances i think CA is the strongest, thats because of large numbers and enourmos resources,
SA got good skills imho, but cant match the wealth of the curse alliance, same whit us i guess :
I find it funny that CA is being called strong for its resources and SA for its skills. Its SA who always has to get a numbers advantage before they think about engaging, they are the ones with X amount of warp core stabilizer, and moreover CA held its own from the start when they had nothing in terms of resources and SA was rolling in bistot. SA pilots always refer to it as a teetering war and as a war among equals, but the fact of the matter is that they spend most of their time hiding or flying frigates trying to gank soft targets. To actually form a decent force and come to a fight is a rare thing (thanks for the action last Sunday guys!). The biggest problem we have in getting people out to fight is boredom - they know as soon as we show up SA will run or scatter most of the time.
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.03.10 14:26:00 -
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Edited by: Sally on 10/03/2004 14:31:55
The Forum Warrior Alliance is the strongest one. They also are gods of PvP, all of them.
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EvilDoomer
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Posted - 2004.03.10 14:42:00 -
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Well, hmmm this is a little embrassing 
But, If I was to check my logs,
ahhhh
Darn, CA is the victor!!! 
{but its not CA kills, its them guys from Black Omega }
I would vote for CA. {I respect them! But I still hate them}
Thanks
EvilDoomer
Chicago Mobsters
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Moah
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Posted - 2004.03.10 14:48:00 -
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I find it funny that CA is being called strong for its resources and SA for its skills. Its SA who always has to get a numbers advantage before they think about engaging, they are the ones with X amount of warp core stabilizer, and moreover CA held its own from the start when they had nothing in terms of resources and SA was rolling in bistot. SA pilots always refer to it as a teetering war and as a war among equals, but the fact of the matter is that they spend most of their time hiding or flying frigates trying to gank soft targets. To actually form a decent force and come to a fight is a rare thing (thanks for the action last Sunday guys!). The biggest problem we have in getting people out to fight is boredom - they know as soon as we show up SA will run or scatter most of the time.
yeah we are all nobies with warpcore stabs and savepoints, I know you fight 3:1... omg when will you stop that we-pwned-stain-every-day-they-just-hide-and-dont-fight bull****?
ca has a lot more pilots then stain or other alliances, and thats the reason why they are as strong as they are. but the average skill level in stain is higher than in curse...
WAYNE
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.03.10 14:53:00 -
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Erm... Moah... Yea... Forget it.
Reverend Necrona |
The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2004.03.10 14:55:00 -
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but the average skill level in stain is higher than in curse
Maybe your mining skills. We all know how Scragg loves his scrodite.
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Alexandra Belana
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Posted - 2004.03.10 16:16:00 -
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Concordia res parvae crescent.
The problem with this theory is that all alliances contain a measure of mentally deficient individuals that understand nothing of following orders, loyalty, or Casus belli (war). Weed out those individuals, and you will have a strong alliance. Until then, they are all weakened from the core.
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Moah
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Posted - 2004.03.10 16:24:00 -
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Erm... Moah... Yea... Forget it.
Yeah, unfortunately my english is not good enuff and theres no point in it.
Fancy. |
Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.03.10 16:34:00 -
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Edited by: Reverend Necrona on 10/03/2004 16:35:44
Quote:
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Erm... Moah... Yea... Forget it.
Yeah, unfortunately my english is not good enuff and theres no point in it.
Nope - more like why waste my time with someone who is never going to admit their wrong. Saying the SA have a better level of PvP experience than CA is... wild to say the least.
Don't get me wrong, you have some fantastic fighters, but many of you have a long way to come. I like to think i don't lie on here, i don't have a problem admiting when someone is better than us, or me. However i do dislike it when such a statement is issued that is clearly well sorry for the flame mate, but clueless.
Serious question mate please answer honestly - although i doubt u will - how many engagements have you been in between Stain and Curse... proper ones i mean, not er... 1 Curse battleship or frigate being chased by 10 Stain ships in DSS.
I know i've just wasted my time but i need a rest on my assignment and the rest of these forums are boring. So there ya go, only thing i'll probably ever give you, 5 minutes of my time, i should really charge you, but i am in a generous mood. :/
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Gunship
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Posted - 2004.03.10 18:10:00 -
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Curse Alliance
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Pel Mel
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Posted - 2004.03.10 18:15:00 -
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well I am going to base this on who i have fought with and against.
for the most part I myself have not been in too many CA organized battles, But i have been in plenty of C4 organized battles.
I would have to say C4 and SA.
C4 because well, we are small, we dont claim any territory, yet we still have and hold stations in Catch and Stain at times most of the week. We are small but we have a bite, we rarely ever retreat from battle, even when the odds greatly outnumber us.
SA, becuase they have the skills and tactics(even if i dont approve of some of them personally) they can get the job done, they have even started to keep the smacktalk down to a minimum, except for a select few female chars.
well, like i said this is what i have found from my battles with and against.
Please be gentle.
Originally by: Eris Discordia
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pooti
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Posted - 2004.03.10 18:16:00 -
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but you know what? we have not changed.
Trust me. You have.
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pooti
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Posted - 2004.03.10 18:31:00 -
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My last memories of CA are the series of huge fleet battles with SA/EVOL at the end of my time as part of the alliance. Those were a mess - nobody properly calling targets, xirtam endlessly screaming over ts (OH **** OH **** I GOT HIM LOCKED HES ****** HES ****** HES GOING DOWN TRIGGER IS GOING DOWN OH **** HE WARPED OK IM LOCKING HOMO LOCKING HOMO [always followed by the hilarious "you guys got to shut up when we're fighting, only the guy calling targets should be talking speech]), various rag-tag gangs floating in and out with little or no coordination, sniperxl attacking allies and stealing cans instead of fighting the enemy, and people mining two systems away instead of coming to help. One of the last straws, for me, was warping into a station to fight a cluster of Evol with USS Omaha and almost getting ganked because they the other 20 people were too busy trying to talk over each other or just not warping.
I don't doubt that CA have a number of talented pilots, or that they have the most powerful military overall, but when it comes to tactics and organization..not even close, unless a LOT has changed over the last few months (which I guess is possible, but...). A handful of inexperienced players can bring a group of experienced ones down quite a few notches.
Also - when I said CFS in my first post I was referring more to the corps that spend time defending the area than to the actual alliance.
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IIIIIIIII
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Posted - 2004.03.10 21:05:00 -
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I see my simple statement of truth rallied a few of the mighty... forum warriors of the CA.
Here, I'll throw up the little fact again.
The CA isn't good.
It's big.
There's a difference. |
TIvian
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Posted - 2004.03.10 21:13:00 -
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Your Right Pooti, I stand corrected. We have changed. And so has m0o!
But contrary to what you think, we have changed for the better.
Your remembrance of your last fight in CA is what we used to be. Its no longer like that. We have leaders, no TS chatter, focused attacks and targets. We do have skills despite what others fail to see.
I have watched our fighting style change and grow for the better.
m0o says we let their enemys in CA. And m0o is just as guilty. Both changed out of the need to survive. And m0o says we let too many carebear miner's in and they have ruined CA. I would like to know how? They have not restricted my fighting everyone in Eve. or Ganking people that saunter into CA territory as they please. we are not holding SA's hand and singing campfire songs. we fight every major alliance out there.
m0o doesn't like the way CA is run anymore.....well m0o was the one to leave! instead of staying and trying to make CA what m0o would think as better. m0o left to "pirate" but all you guys have done is PvP.
Personally, I don't subscribe to any of the crap that m0o has posted on the forums as reasons why m0o is attacking.
I know why. and I know what the truth is. m0o is just bored, And we are the only real fighters left in m0o's eye's
I will quote Nature Boy Rick Flair(pro-wrestler) To be the best you have to beat the best! To be the man you have to beat the man!
And as another wrestler say's JUST BRING IT!
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TIvian
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Posted - 2004.03.10 21:15:00 -
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I see my simple statement of truth rallied a few of the mighty... forum warriors of the CA.
Here, I'll throw up the little fact again.
The CA isn't good.
It's big.
There's a difference.
Here is another fact that I bet you don't know.
Your not good, your just a number!
Grow a set son.
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Sally B
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Posted - 2004.03.10 21:22:00 -
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Miners on TS with gunnery V can be deadly when 10 vs 1. Just ask Shirke.
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Mr Blonde
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Posted - 2004.03.10 22:09:00 -
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Silver goes to CFS. CFS, in their glory days. Pacifists really, but maaaaaaan were they organized. They'll always be remembered by me as the most fanatically organized alliance in EVE *and* proportionally the least effective military-wise.
Bronze goes to SA I suppose. They have above average organization and abover average effectiveness. Unfortunately neither being high enough above average to earn them a Silver cookie.
I find it ironic that you state the CFS, an alliance that used to be made up of 80+ corporations, one that often didnt know who its own members were, which communicated over a board where half of the internal discussions were done on the public part of the forum and the other half read by the rest of eve on the private forum, and whose announcements or changes from above took 3-4 days to reach the members, as the most organized alliance in Eve. Perhaps just as ironic as you placing them as the 2nd "strongest military alliance" while in the same breath calling them the least effective military alliance in Eve.
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Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2004.03.10 22:50:00 -
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'cause [yesterday] we [turned the tables] a [rampant force of pubescent teens] of [uncountable] [wannabe forum posters] and completely [omgw30wnztehr0x0rtehb0x0ryouguy5] the [flamers and trolls] despite the huge [egos they have to carry around].
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IIIIIIIII
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Posted - 2004.03.10 23:09:00 -
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Your not good, your just a number!
Grow a set son.
Here's a number for you.
1.
I asked for a (1), vs (1). From you.
You boasted being able to own any Evol 1v1.
You refused to back your mouth.
So, my 'set' is fine. It is yours that is lacking. |
UnFriendly Fire
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Posted - 2004.03.10 23:16:00 -
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Edited by: UnFriendly Fire on 10/03/2004 23:22:10
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I find it ironic that you state the CFS, an alliance that used to be made up of 80+ corporations, one that often didnt know who its own members were, which communicated over a board where half of the internal discussions were done on the public part of the forum and the other half read by the rest of eve on the private forum, and whose announcements or changes from above took 3-4 days to reach the members, as the most organized alliance in Eve. Perhaps just as ironic as you placing them as the 2nd "strongest military alliance" while in the same breath calling them the least effective military alliance in Eve.
CFS lost to CA in the first war between them due to inexperience and ideals. The only PvP the member corps had before then was dealing with small pirate corps that were in the FIX. Completely different tactics were required, and for most of us the war with CA was our first fleet actions with large forces on both sides plus the sheer surprise of CA attacking threw alot of people off. We were inexperienced and fighting our first large scale battles, and we got our butts kicked in them, though not as bad as Lallante ever crowed. But we kept coming back to try again. Also, ideals hampered us, since for almost the entire war we fought defensively, most of us never even tried to attack curse since we were a defensive alliance.
All of this lead to a very ineffective military, gettign kicked back down everytime they tried to regain their feet didn''t help either. Granted we inflicted casualties, but never won the war, ingame or and particularly on the forums.
As it is, the CFS now is leaner but more experienced, they don''t seem to be stuck on the defense, they''re more willing to attack, and have got some capable pvpers. With a much smaller military they are much more effective.
Honestly, I''d say MoO is strongest, even if I''m not sure its an alliance. Whenever they passed through our area they''ve always done alot of damage for their group size and use very good tactics. Even if I can''t stand the smacktalk of some of their junior members.
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TIvian
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Posted - 2004.03.10 23:29:00 -
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Your not good, your just a number!
Grow a set son.
Here's a number for you.
1.
I asked for a (1), vs (1). From you.
You boasted being able to own any Evol 1v1.
You refused to back your mouth.
So, my 'set' is fine. It is yours that is lacking.
Ummm I thought it was Homo that wanted a duel? So you and Homo are the same then not very forthcomming of you to ask for it in obscure posts or ask me to convo you for details?
And I have no problem with doing 1 vs 1. I have fought plenty of 1 vs 1, won some lost some. And as much as I would love to take you down 1 vs 1 I have to settle with assisting in removing your ships from under you in fleet combat.
Your reputation lacks Homo. You challenged Redon to a 1 vs 1 and when he undocked he got Ganked by Evol Battleships that had logged of in system.
That is not the only case I hear. And your demands are such that it would make it very easy for the rest of Evol to do the same to me.
No Homo, your the one that is afraid of 1 vs 1, you have made that very clear in the past and if your sincer at this point? well, then your paying the price for being dishonorable in the past.
Everyone knows never trust any Evolution members....you have no respect for any one in this game but your selfs, and Evolution doesn't care what people think or say.
Like I said grow a set. but in your case I guess it would be ******* since your more like a woman any way
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Pogy Bait
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Posted - 2004.03.10 23:51:00 -
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Morning.
Heres how it goes, EVEs trend lately has been if they have 10 ships, u get 30, which is totally crap. u very rarely get groups of 10v10 and so on.
As for the best alliance, i say none, Alliance that can get the most PPL in short space of time?, would prob have to be CA, but darn, do they do it overkill.
u can send in 10 BS and before u know it they muster EVER ship they can. fairish fights dont happen, which i think is a shame.
i know that they are just looking to protect their borders, but camping the same system for hours on end must be boring as hell, and im soooo glad CELES moved away from this.
i say large PVP corps rule EVE, they have the most kills and the less losses. and are prob the best fighters, but if u had to twist my arm, id say CA are best of a bad bunch.
d solo.
CA blobs are a self perpetuating issue. We have a lot of fighters that need pvp to keep them interested. So any time an enemy shows up all the pvpers rush to get in on the fun. A blob forms and the enemy wisely retreats, so that the next enemy gets an even bigger blob as now there are more pilots who haven't gotten thier pvp fix. Rinse/Repeat.
It's not that we wouldn't fight 10v10, it's just for that to happen 90 of our guys have to miss out on the fun. |
Lysender
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Posted - 2004.03.11 00:20:00 -
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FA.
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Soulchaser
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Posted - 2004.03.11 12:14:00 -
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By far the Myself & Me -Alliance own the other alliances every day we gank indys and completely r0x0r because we are the oldest, best, most experienced, largest r0x0r and the other alliances arent worth typing about.
'cause last night we gathered a huge elite force of ub3r l33t r0x0rz of 26+ pods and completely wtfpwned the other alliances despite the huge resistance from laagggggggg!!
too funny, i love that template
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