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TriStar3x
The first genesis Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2007.12.06 02:18:00 -
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Hi,
I am unable to get anti-aliasing to function with the new engine. Graphic card is a brand new 8800GT. Tested in other games and AA works just fine there, be it built-in AA or forced through driver AA. Corp mate has a 8800GTS and same issue as me. OS is WindowsXP Pro 32. Driver is up to date. HDR is NOT enabled. I have tried using nHancer but no luck so far (have to mention that I am rather new to this tool though so I am still trying through different tweaks).
Anyone else with this problem ? Any known workaround ? Is CCP aware of the issue and should I bug report it ?
Regards.
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Karter Haiit
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Posted - 2007.12.06 02:26:00 -
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Same issue here. AA isn't working when using eve application to control antialias settings. I must admit I haven't yet tried overriding AA in the driver or third party util.
8800GT, winxp (32) sp2. driver 169.04
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Dave Tehsulei
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.12.06 02:31:00 -
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Same problem with 8800 gtx, forcing AA through nvidia control pannel causes eve to crash
Latest driver, no HDR Win Xp Pro
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Devlynsands
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Posted - 2007.12.06 02:34:00 -
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yeah im seeing same thing <8800GTX-Evga> HDR forced AA jaggie like a steak knife... without HDR better but still not as good as it was previous to the gfx update.. Very annoying..
Cheers..
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Calimor
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.06 02:37:00 -
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Can't use AA either, even when I force it. Was working on SiSi Trinity and normal client.
I have a GeForce 7800 GT.
OS WinXP x64
Driver up to date.
Doesn't work either with HDR disabled or enabled with nHancer fix.
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Glocksmith
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Posted - 2007.12.06 04:24:00 -
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Anti-aliasing isn't working for me, either. 8800GTS on XP SP2.
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Jalee Teagen
Gallente The Aduro Protocol The Fifth Race
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Posted - 2007.12.06 04:49:00 -
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Edited by: Jalee Teagen on 06/12/2007 04:50:33 2-16 AA not working. evga 8800GT 169driver
HI GLOCK
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Mistress Crystalmind
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Posted - 2007.12.06 07:38:00 -
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It works with my GTS (using nhancer). Did you set AA compatibility (in combatibility tab) on Oblivion (AA&HDR)?
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Calimor
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.06 07:43:00 -
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Originally by: Mistress Crystalmind It works with my GTS (using nhancer). Did you set AA compatibility (in combatibility tab) on Oblivion (AA&HDR)?
Yes I did. And it doesn't work even without HDR, so that's not the issue we're having in this thread.
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Jalee Teagen
Gallente The Aduro Protocol The Fifth Race
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Posted - 2007.12.06 07:48:00 -
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Originally by: Mistress Crystalmind It works with my GTS (using nhancer). Did you set AA compatibility (in combatibility tab) on Oblivion (AA&HDR)?
Does not work for me.
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Seth Allasatre
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:14:00 -
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I wonder if this is an 8800-series problem. I have an AGP 7800GS and AA works as expected when forcing it on in the driver. In fact, if I turn on HDR in the game, AA turns off. And when HDR is turned off again (without restarting the client), AA comes back.
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Verite Rendition
Caldari F.R.E.E. Explorer Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:25:00 -
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On Vista x64 with an 8800GTX and controlling AA via the NV control panel, I'm finding that I have to hit ESC to bring up the settings window and then close it to get AA working. Closing that window appears to be causing the EVE client to reinitialize the renderer, at which point AA settings are being applied. ---- FREE Explorer Lead Megalomanic EVE Automated Influence Map |

Achuress
Caldari Maledictae
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:28:00 -
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Use HDR with full bloom instead. Its pretty.
My specs:
AMD 64 X2 4600+ 4GB DDR2 PC6400 NVidia 8800GTX
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Acturas Xejin
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:56:00 -
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Check www.nvidia.com website for driver updates. The 8800 is new and there are bound to be updates already, or soon.
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The Nerfherder
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Posted - 2007.12.06 09:41:00 -
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The same is happening for me, AA is not working. No lagg, really good fps, though all edges are ****. GTX8800, latest drivers (DL:d em 2 min ago..), tried with and without HDR and on, low and high, tried using NVidia controlpanel to override, enhance the AA in eve, no success. 
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velusip
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Posted - 2007.12.06 09:50:00 -
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Similar. Using a 7600gs here and AA cannot be enabled.
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Jolliejoe
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.12.06 10:06:00 -
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Originally by: Acturas Xejin Check www.nvidia.com website for driver updates. The 8800 is new and there are bound to be updates already, or soon.
Been under a rock for months? The 8800 is far from new by now LOL.
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TriStar3x
The first genesis Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2007.12.06 10:13:00 -
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Originally by: Acturas Xejin Check www.nvidia.com website for driver updates. The 8800 is new and there are bound to be updates already, or soon.
Please remember to always read the OP before replying 
Originally by: TriStar3x ... Driver is up to date. ...
Using either the latest generic WHQL Nvidia 169.02 Forceware or the latest manufacturer ASUS 169.06 Forceware or the latest generic BETA Nvidia 169.09 Forceware does not change anything about the issue.
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Angelus Custos
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.12.06 10:16:00 -
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I was fighting this hard yesterday, what I eventually found was that forced AA work in fullscreen mode, but not windowed.
I use nHancer and both AA and HDR. This is however no rel help to me since I want to run windowed.
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Mistress Crystalmind
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Posted - 2007.12.06 10:19:00 -
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Originally by: Angelus Custos I was fighting this hard yesterday, what I eventually found was that forced AA work in fullscreen mode, but not windowed.
Yep, this is true..forced AA via drivers or tweak tools in EvE works only in full screen mode.
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Psython
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Posted - 2007.12.06 10:20:00 -
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Same as the op, everything looks great, and running smooth, but the AA (or lack of) makes the edges look ****. Have 8800GTX, vista 32bit. If anyone finds a working solution, that you have tried or know works, then please tell, and clearly, not like "i've uber graphic card and it works for me !11"
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Ecaz
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Posted - 2007.12.06 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: Mistress Crystalmind It works with my GTS (using nhancer). Did you set AA compatibility (in combatibility tab) on Oblivion (AA&HDR)?
Works for me as well although only in fullscreen mode. Used nHancer to overide and are now able to play with HDR and Bloom as well. Waiting for the window mode fix as i play with dual monitors.
Specs: Core2Duo 6400, 4 gig, 8800GTS 640, X-Fi extreme gamer
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TriStar3x
The first genesis Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2007.12.06 17:22:00 -
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wOOt found a fix ! 
nHancer FTW ! In your Eve Online profile, go to the compatibility tab on the right side, tick the "Anti-Aliasing compatibility" box and select "Splinter Cell 4" nHancer control panel screenshot
As far as my testing went, the AA method / settings does not matter (eg. whatever you choose it should work). I am running 169.13 unofficial BETA ForceWare and did not roll back to check if the fix works with others drivers.
Hope it works for you guys. O/
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Calimor
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.06 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: TriStar3x wOOt found a fix ! 
nHancer FTW ! In your Eve Online profile, go to the compatibility tab on the right side, tick the "Anti-Aliasing compatibility" box and select "Splinter Cell 4" nHancer control panel screenshot
As far as my testing went, the AA method / settings does not matter (eg. whatever you choose it should work). I am running 169.13 unofficial BETA ForceWare and did not roll back to check if the fix works with others drivers.
Hope it works for you guys. O/
It worked for my 7800. Thank you very much.
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Angelus Custos
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.12.06 18:56:00 -
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Did anyone get it to work in windowed mode? I still only get AA in fullscreen.
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ShogunAssassin
System-Lords Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.12.06 20:12:00 -
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yea i had this problem last night. Im running 8800gts with vista. AA would not work for me at first but then i got it to work not sure how. I have AAx4 set to overide any application mode. When it was not working I changed the interval button/tab on the eve settings menu(to see what it does) my frame rate drop right down after i set this to 4 but when i changed it back to Interval default AA started to work just fine.
Quote:
"Naaah, lets make tyres illegal! That'll slow the buggers down!"
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Nomaar
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Posted - 2007.12.06 22:12:00 -
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Originally by: Jolliejoe
Originally by: Acturas Xejin Check www.nvidia.com website for driver updates. The 8800 is new and there are bound to be updates already, or soon.
Been under a rock for months? The 8800 is far from new by now LOL.
If you read the original message, the poster is using an 8800 GT, which is new ... LOL.
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Rex Wolfen
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.12.07 18:54:00 -
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Originally by: TriStar3x wOOt found a fix ! 
nHancer FTW ! In your Eve Online profile, go to the compatibility tab on the right side, tick the "Anti-Aliasing compatibility" box and select "Splinter Cell 4" nHancer control panel screenshotO/
Hurray !!!! that works, GF 7950 GT, HDR off, but AA !!!!
thanks dude, that made my day 
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Method 0
Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.12.08 01:24:00 -
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Works for my 7900GS. Note: must disable "enhance in-game AA" and must disable HDR in-game and in driver...
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Pecunya
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Posted - 2007.12.08 14:46:00 -
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I have a 8800 GTX on Windows XP 64 with the latest drivers. Although "Splinter Cell 4" does give me AA whereas "Oblivion" does not, my FPS goes down from 60 (with VSync) to 8! So back to no AA but high FPS .
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TriStar3x
The first genesis Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2007.12.08 17:15:00 -
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Edited by: TriStar3x on 08/12/2007 21:47:57
Originally by: Pecunya I have a 8800 GTX on Windows XP 64 with the latest drivers. Although "Splinter Cell 4" does give me AA whereas "Oblivion" does not, my FPS goes down from 60 (with VSync) to 8! So back to no AA but high FPS .
Tried to lower your settings ? tried without VSync ? tried AA4x AF4x, AF trilinear optimization ? What AA method do you use and did you have HDR enabled ? Multisampling is the best for performances afaik and HDR is a FPS killer.
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Pecunya
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Posted - 2007.12.08 22:55:00 -
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It should run with high AA settings and not too much performance loss. But I have it working now: 16xSupersampling AA, 8xFA, HDR with "HL2" compatibilty. "Oblivion" doesn't work at all, "Splintercell" gives me AA but kills my fps, but "HL2" compatibility seems to do the trick.
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JSSix
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Posted - 2007.12.11 02:46:00 -
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I kinda have the same issue in regards to AA not working.
I have 8800 Ultra running on Windows Vista x64 I dont see any difference between AA/AF 4x4 & AA/AF 16x16Q. the fact that im running it on Max Res the game supports you still see alot of jagged edges.
I dont know if the game it self doesnt support AA or what? its like the game Ghost Recon Advanced War Fighter where the Dev's deliberatly disabled AA since they noticed that the game litteraly uses more than 512mb Video Memory when AA is enabled.
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Ataki Anderson
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Posted - 2007.12.21 05:37:00 -
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Edited by: Ataki Anderson on 21/12/2007 05:37:39 8800GTS here ..
So heres the deal, it seems, after about a dozen restarts.
- Full screen, required - Oblivion compat flag works with HDR and bloom, but may create some weird artifacts in some of the shaders (specifically, stars seen through your cloaked ship after you jump into a system create visual incorrect flickering effects) - Splinter Cell 4 compat flag works, but only if you have HDR turned off
pick your poison, I guess :)
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Ce'lester
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Posted - 2008.01.16 19:12:00 -
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None of these tricks seem to work on my computer.
My specs are: C2D 6700, 2gb DDR2 (800mHz) and Nvidia 8800GTX 768mb (with newest drivers).
Does anyone have any other ideas.
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Bafur
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Posted - 2008.04.15 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: Ce'lester None of these tricks seem to work on my computer.
My specs are: C2D 6700, 2gb DDR2 (800mHz) and Nvidia 8800GTX 768mb (with newest drivers).
Does anyone have any other ideas.
I have exactly the same grafics card as you, and I'm getting the same results here; none of the tricks mentioned here does not work at all. I see no change ingame.
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Mal Nakor
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Posted - 2008.05.04 19:08:00 -
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I have a nvidia 7900 GS and I am having this same issue except I have tried everything in this thread and many others that supposedly fixes this issue and it still does not bloody work for me. This is driving me up a wall. Anyone have any suggrestions? |

Musttang
Precision Engineering Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.05 22:24:00 -
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HAVE YOU ALL DID A BUG REPORT AND IF NOT WHY ???
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Esphere
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Posted - 2008.05.18 22:10:00 -
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The workaround using nhancer stopped to work after upgrading to nvida forceware version 175.16 I was not able to reactivate AA+HDR using any compatibility method. Can somebody confirm?
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Neoisis
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Posted - 2008.05.19 13:11:00 -
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Originally by: Esphere The workaround using nhancer stopped to work after upgrading to nvida forceware version 175.16 I was not able to reactivate AA+HDR using any compatibility method. Can somebody confirm?
i can confirm that. it does not work with 175.16
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Eternal Error
Exitus Acta Probant
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Posted - 2008.05.21 02:35:00 -
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I haven't tried nhancer or any of that, but with HDR enabled and all the settings maxed and stuff, I can confirm that driver level forced AA does not work on a 9800GTX on 175.16.
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NeuromancerAI
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Posted - 2008.05.22 03:16:00 -
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I can confirm that AA will not work with an 8800GT no matter what settings are used in nHancer with the newer drivers. I have yet to try the older version of the drivers and cannot since there are driver specific optimizations in the new drivers I need for other games. What really needs to happen is CCP needs to support AA natively in Eve-Online. The only reason they wouldn't be able to do this is if they use deferred rendering due to DX9's limitations. Though DX10 does support AA with deferred rendering, Eve is not a DX10 supported game. It would be nice to have the option to disable HDR and use in-game AA. This would be a better method than forcing AA in the driver anyways because it is much more efficient.
Please add native support for AA.
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Erratic Spacegnome
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Posted - 2008.05.28 00:29:00 -
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For those saying they can't get AA / HDR to work with 175.16 drivers, are you using nHancer v2.4.1 released May 10th 2008 ?
Quote: Support of Forceware/GeForce drivers version 60 and later, including the new 174+ versions
It works ok for me with 3 x 8800 GTX's in SLI. Although I'm not convinced I have the best optimization yet. ~38 fps @ 1920x1200 with 16x AA is the best I can get so far.
It's a pity CCP haven't put some AA options into the game setup menu. Not everyone is inclined to spend hours tinkering with 3rd party driver tweaks and will be seeing pretty nasty jaggies despite having paid for decent graphics cards.
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Esphere
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Posted - 2008.05.30 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Erratic Spacegnome For those saying they can't get AA / HDR to work with 175.16 drivers, are you using nHancer v2.4.1 released May 10th 2008 ?
I Am Usinge xactly that version of nHancer. Would you mind to share us your settings?
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Esphere
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Posted - 2008.05.31 08:48:00 -
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Possible fix for the recent problems with nhancer 2.4.1 and nvida forceware 175.16
Trieds some settings in nhancer again and when selecting "Anti-Aliasing Compatibility = AA+HDR" it finaly worked! I Applied those settings while i had the fullscreen eve client minimized. When i maximized it again the effetc was visible. Man i dond know why i did not triy THIS setting earlier ...
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Lara Kotran
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Posted - 2008.06.01 13:05:00 -
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I partially solved crash problems during the gameplay, but I have still these errors (nHancer helped me,but NOT completely because sometime I crash anyway):
http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=immaginefb7.jpg
or with python.dll, blue.dll, ect.
I need everytime to relog my pc to play again. I tried 1000 times to install again the client but nothing..I have it anyway. (Do not suggest me to download the client with download manager pls :) )
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Reeno Coleman
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Posted - 2008.06.04 12:21:00 -
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Edited by: Reeno Coleman on 04/06/2008 12:23:20 gf 8800gts, vista 32 nHancer works for me, AA+HDR if
- i disable my 2nd screen - run the game in fullscreen - i disable the nhancer option "enhance in-game AA setting" - dx9 compat set to HDR+AA - dx10 compat set to general
sucks anyway =( i need my 2nd screen, stoneage has passed ;) please work on native aa support
edit: forgot to say: supersampling as well as 8xQ and 16xQ Multisampling crashes EvE, combined sampling works (wtf?) but slow as hell.
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Purtonias
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.07.15 07:18:00 -
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working for me on an 8800gt with latest nhancer and latest forware using compatibilty 0000045 aa and hdr , with hdr ticked as well in nhancer and combined 8s which gets rid of shimmering and 16x AF.. cant stop the strange light blocks when de cloacking from gate jumps though?
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