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Lunaz
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Posted - 2007.12.06 02:31:00 -
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Just figured i would warn everyone that installing the premium files can cause serious system errors.
I just recieved the following upon restart after instalation.
Windows could not start because the following file is missing or corupt:
<windows root>\system32\hal/dll
Please re-install a copy of the above file
and sense it cant load in regular mode OR even safe mode no way to go expcept most likely a fresh re-instal of the OS.
so be warned.... please note everything was downloaded correctly and nothing else altered other than the instalation.
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Phoenix Allfire
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Posted - 2007.12.06 02:35:00 -
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If you created the system restore point as standard with any installation of any software and hardware, all you need to restore back to that point .... 5 minutes tops, depending on how old the system is.
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Lunaz
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Posted - 2007.12.06 02:36:00 -
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cant from the startup that i seen im afraid so system restore aint an option.
atm i am trying to boot from cd to see what i can do
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Phoenix Allfire
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Posted - 2007.12.06 02:38:00 -
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F11 or F8? Could always run the administrator from the windows xp cd and do it that way :)
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Lunaz
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Posted - 2007.12.06 02:39:00 -
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funny thing is i pop in my windows xp disk and its saying it cant even find a copy of windows on there...... so much for this update. <cries
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CCP Mindstar
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Posted - 2007.12.06 02:43:00 -
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This article from Microsoft should be of assistance to those having issues with boot.ini and hal.dll errors when starting Windows.
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Lunaz
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Posted - 2007.12.06 02:48:00 -
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thanks for the link checking it out now
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Lunaz
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Posted - 2007.12.06 02:57:00 -
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so far its not letting me follow those instructions as its asking for an admin password which i didnt set or if i did none of the passwords i always use work but still trying.... even changed the admin password and it wont acknowledge it /shrug
man i need eve <cries
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Lunaz
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Posted - 2007.12.06 03:04:00 -
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YES YES YES its alive ALIIIIIIIVE
thanks so much for your help you 2 and especialy for that link.
Turns out there was no password so i just had to hit enter LOL but ya it fixed it.... again my thanks.
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Aaron Sylasta
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Posted - 2007.12.06 04:02:00 -
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Just posting to say I'm getting the boot.ini thing as well. I'd be interested in knowing what this patch is doing to my computer that involves messing up an important system file like that  |
Lord MuffloN
Caldari
Aggressive Tendencies
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2007.12.06 04:09:00 -
[11]
 Originally by: CCP Mindstar
This article from Microsoft should be of assistance to those having issues with boot.ini and hal.dll errors when starting Windows.
Not possible to fix boot.ini when we're still in Windows? (Haven't rebooted yet, oh and, good ******* going CCP!)
Originally by: Jago Kain
If they ever decide to award a Nobel Prize for Emo, Lord MuffloN is a sure fire winner of the first on |
Takitimu
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Posted - 2007.12.06 04:10:00 -
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I've got the same problem as well, fyi
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Lunaz
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Posted - 2007.12.06 04:21:00 -
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i was wondering what it was doing in there as well /shrug.
but just follow those instructions and it fixes it NP.
BUT you must use your OS instal disk to get there so if you dont have it then its not good.
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Jinli mei
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Posted - 2007.12.06 04:29:00 -
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Originally by: Lord MuffloN
Originally by: CCP Mindstar
This article from Microsoft should be of assistance to those having issues with boot.ini and hal.dll errors when starting Windows.
Not possible to fix boot.ini when we're still in Windows? (Haven't rebooted yet, oh and, good ******* going CCP!)
Well, there's a way to toy with it.
**** THIS MAY NOT WORK AND IS NOT RECOMMENDED FOR PEOPLE WHO AREN'T FAMILIAR WITH WHERE THE STEPS TAKE YOU ****
Be warned: I am not taking responsibility for further messing up your system. Be careful, be wise! If this seems a little trick to you don't do it.
This will only work for Windows XP Professional as I am using tools only found in XP Professional. In all reality, you should be booting into the repair console for this!
1. Go to start, right click on 'My Computer' and click Manage.
2. Once the management console is open, go to Disk Management. It could take a few seconds to load.
In the disk management you have two parts: A top part indicating all the partitions and driver letters, and a bottom part showing you the partitions and drives ordered by disk number, and then by partition locations.
3. Find what disk number your windows installation is on (for example, mine is on the C: partition, the first partition on disk 0)
Disk 0 Partition 1 should be the typical location where your windows install is. However, I can't possibly guarantee this is it.
5. Open up notepad (start, run, notepad, click ok) and paste in the following:
Quote:
[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(YOUR DISK #)partition(YOUR PARTITION #)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(YOUR DISK #)rdisk(0)partition(YOUR PARTITION #)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect
There are two things you should notice: disk() and partition(). now set these to what you discovered in step 3, and set them both for the default switch and the operating system entry.
7. Save your boot.ini on the installation drive
8. Click Start, Run, and type in MSCONFIG
9. Select the "BOOT.INI" tab
10. Click "Check all Boot Paths"
If it gives you the OK, you should be in the clear. If it says the boot path is invalid, I recommend taking a few steps back and playing with the boot.ini more.
This is the process I did to get mine back. It will likely differ from yours, so fair warning.
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Aaron Sylasta
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Posted - 2007.12.06 04:30:00 -
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Edited by: Aaron Sylasta on 06/12/2007 04:30:31
Originally by: Lord MuffloN
Not possible to fix boot.ini when we're still in Windows? (Haven't rebooted yet, oh and, good ******* going CCP!)
Looks like it is possible, actually.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/289022/
Edit: Dang, beaten
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Lord MuffloN
Caldari
Aggressive Tendencies
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2007.12.06 04:42:00 -
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Originally by: Jinli mei
Originally by: Lord MuffloN
Originally by: CCP Mindstar
This article from Microsoft should be of assistance to those having issues with boot.ini and hal.dll errors when starting Windows.
Not possible to fix boot.ini when we're still in Windows? (Haven't rebooted yet, oh and, good ******* going CCP!)
Well, there's a way to toy with it.
**** THIS MAY NOT WORK AND IS NOT RECOMMENDED FOR PEOPLE WHO AREN'T FAMILIAR WITH WHERE THE STEPS TAKE YOU ****
Be warned: I am not taking responsibility for further messing up your system. Be careful, be wise! If this seems a little trick to you don't do it.
This will only work for Windows XP Professional as I am using tools only found in XP Professional. In all reality, you should be booting into the repair console for this!
1. Go to start, right click on 'My Computer' and click Manage.
2. Once the management console is open, go to Disk Management. It could take a few seconds to load.
In the disk management you have two parts: A top part indicating all the partitions and driver letters, and a bottom part showing you the partitions and drives ordered by disk number, and then by partition locations.
3. Find what disk number your windows installation is on (for example, mine is on the C: partition, the first partition on disk 0)
Disk 0 Partition 1 should be the typical location where your windows install is. However, I can't possibly guarantee this is it.
5. Open up notepad (start, run, notepad, click ok) and paste in the following:
Quote:
[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(YOUR DISK #)partition(YOUR PARTITION #)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(YOUR DISK #)rdisk(0)partition(YOUR PARTITION #)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect
There are two things you should notice: disk() and partition(). now set these to what you discovered in step 3, and set them both for the default switch and the operating system entry.
7. Save your boot.ini on the installation drive
8. Click Start, Run, and type in MSCONFIG
9. Select the "BOOT.INI" tab
10. Click "Check all Boot Paths"
If it gives you the OK, you should be in the clear. If it says the boot path is invalid, I recommend taking a few steps back and playing with the boot.ini more.
This is the process I did to get mine back. It will likely differ from yours, so fair warning.
It works under WinXP Home as well
Originally by: Jago Kain
If they ever decide to award a Nobel Prize for Emo, Lord MuffloN is a sure fire winner of the first on |
Coniglietta Magica
THE FINAL STAND
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Posted - 2007.12.06 04:52:00 -
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c:\windows\pss\boot.ini.backup
copy this to c:\boot.ini
if it says access denied. edit the boot.ini and copy the content of boot.ini.backup to it.
Sign The Petition!
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Kasheem Cetanes
Omega Enterprises
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.12.06 05:02:00 -
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Or Use msconfig >.>
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Preston FateForger
Caldari
The Elear
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2007.12.06 05:08:00 -
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Edited by: Preston FateForger on 06/12/2007 05:09:38
This is a serious error.
Fixes had better work.
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Aperion Madante
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.06 05:11:00 -
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The straightforward way to get Windows to create a new boot.ini file is as follows:
Go to control panel -> system -> advanced -> and click on settings under startup and recovery. If it pops up with an error saying it can't find boot.ini you need to fix it.
Copy and paste the boot.ini files as shown in the original post, taking into account your version of Windows (Home/Professional) and what drive/partition it's on.
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Taraq Zell
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Posted - 2007.12.06 05:15:00 -
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It's my understanding that this is only an issue that is affecting people who have Windows installed in a non-standard way? Because I have the premium content patch installed, and I turned off my laptop and everything afterwards. Booted it up a few minutes ago, no error greeted me like everyone is saying...
Maybe it's because I don't have EVE installed to C:/Program Files, but rather to C:/Games?
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Shar'Tuk TheHated
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Posted - 2007.12.06 05:16:00 -
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Does this only apply to people with XP or Vista as well?
DRINK RUM It fights scurvy & boosts morale!
THE BEATINGS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL MORALE IMPROVES! |
Epoch
Endless Destruction
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Posted - 2007.12.06 05:25:00 -
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Edited by: Epoch on 06/12/2007 05:25:20
Originally by: Taraq Zell
It's my understanding that this is only an issue that is affecting people who have Windows installed in a non-standard way? Because I have the premium content patch installed, and I turned off my laptop and everything afterwards. Booted it up a few minutes ago, no error greeted me like everyone is saying...
Maybe it's because I don't have EVE installed to C:/Program Files, but rather to C:/Games?
no. it's affecting everyone. the eve file boot.ini is replacing the system file. to check if you have it. either start -> search -> all files and folders (select more advanced options and choose to search for hidden files & folders) -> search for "boot.ini". it should be on the c: drive. just because it affecting you does not neccesarily mean you're going to have reboot/boot problems.
other way is start -> run -> msconfig. there should be a boot.ini tab.
ccp - you guys should call attention to this. this is a big foul up.
other than that, trinity is awesome. 
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Ayane Shardmoor
Minmatar
ShardNet
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Posted - 2007.12.06 05:25:00 -
[24]
Originally by: Aaron Sylasta
Just posting to say I'm getting the boot.ini thing as well. I'd be interested in knowing what this patch is doing to my computer that involves messing up an important system file like that
When I installed the graphics upgrade, the first thing the patcher did was "Delete file: \boot.ini". This image shows specifically what I mean.
I got the missing boot.ini startup error after mucking about with the test server build a couple days ago. Put 2 and 2 together and figured the test patch must've done something. So this time around, I kept an explorer window open watching the C:\ root, while running the content upgrade patch, and voila! C:\boot.ini went bye-bye before my very eyes.
Perhaps CCP's QA team is in need of a little time out. 
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Simon Monkoto
AirHawk Alliance
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.12.06 05:37:00 -
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I would think that running EVE (or at least the patcher) as a non administrative user should prevent this issue from happening. By default the boot.ini has its NTFS permissions set to only allow the administrator (local or as in my case the domain administrator) to modify/delete the file.
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Gralatus
Viper Squad
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.12.06 05:37:00 -
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I want to give a warm thank you for making my computer go totally fubar.
Thanks CCP. you're the best!!!!!!
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Quarc
I-Omniscient-I
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Posted - 2007.12.06 05:54:00 -
[27]
Originally by: Ayane Shardmoor
Originally by: Aaron Sylasta
Just posting to say I'm getting the boot.ini thing as well. I'd be interested in knowing what this patch is doing to my computer that involves messing up an important system file like that
When I installed the graphics upgrade, the first thing the patcher did was "Delete file: \boot.ini". This image shows specifically what I mean.
I got the missing boot.ini startup error after mucking about with the test server build a couple days ago. Put 2 and 2 together and figured the test patch must've done something. So this time around, I kept an explorer window open watching the C:\ root, while running the content upgrade patch, and voila! C:\boot.ini went bye-bye before my very eyes.
Perhaps CCP's QA team is in need of a little time out.
Hum, while, not exactly afraid of it, I really do wodner how exactly did this "little" Messup happen?
I can jsut see a bunch of the non-techie people with only one comptuer wodnering why their comptuer won't start after the eve patch (althought not exactly is it often that people, certanly people not exactly knowing much about computers, won't connect game patch to sudden comptuer death) And, the ammount of poeple who are just wondering what to do...
:/
How did it happen? O.o
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Zenara Merric
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Posted - 2007.12.06 06:07:00 -
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im getting the same <windows root> \system32\hal.dll. file missing. This is ridiculous. I wonder how many ppl this has just happened to that cant access the forums to get this issue addressed. How much damage did this update do? I cannot boot windows XP from disk, and it wont let me do "copy C:\windows\pss\boot.ini.backup C:\boot.ini" it says path not found. I really dont want to have to reinstal everything cause i cant launch windows. CCP needs to adress this issue and not screw us over
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SheriffFruitfly
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2007.12.06 06:10:00 -
[29]
Hah - this is nuthin. Just wait til the next patch when they put "format c:\" in the install script.
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proclaimed HERETIC
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Posted - 2007.12.06 06:14:00 -
[30]
I put up a script on one of my domains that checks your boot.ini to see if it's still intact. Source to script is provided.
http://www.gamingassist.com
Put it right on the front page so no one can miss it.
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Mia Fabor
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Posted - 2007.12.06 06:23:00 -
[31]
Originally by: Quarc
Originally by: Ayane Shardmoor
Originally by: Aaron Sylasta
Just posting to say I'm getting the boot.ini thing as well. I'd be interested in knowing what this patch is doing to my computer that involves messing up an important system file like that
When I installed the graphics upgrade, the first thing the patcher did was "Delete file: \boot.ini". This image shows specifically what I mean.
I got the missing boot.ini startup error after mucking about with the test server build a couple days ago. Put 2 and 2 together and figured the test patch must've done something. So this time around, I kept an explorer window open watching the C:\ root, while running the content upgrade patch, and voila! C:\boot.ini went bye-bye before my very eyes.
Perhaps CCP's QA team is in need of a little time out.
Hum, while, not exactly afraid of it, I really do wodner how exactly did this "little" Messup happen?
I can jsut see a bunch of the non-techie people with only one comptuer wodnering why their comptuer won't start after the eve patch (althought not exactly is it often that people, certanly people not exactly knowing much about computers, won't connect game patch to sudden comptuer death) And, the ammount of poeple who are just wondering what to do...
:/
How did it happen? O.o
I am so screwed...dont know where i placed my windows cd .... been a few years... so i'm stuck at the <windows root>\system32\hal.dll
Wat can i do now? i need help...i'm just really ****ed since i need my lappy for work as well. how the heck can ccp lapsed n erase windows boot.ini anyways..i mean WTF!!!!! arhhhh
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FelonyFruitFlinger
Epiphyte Mining and Exploration
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Posted - 2007.12.06 06:29:00 -
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Note to self: don't patch eve on my work laptop ever again. Boy am I in deep **** tomorrow moring.
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Toawa
EVE Mercantile Exchange
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Posted - 2007.12.06 06:40:00 -
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Wow... I guess its a good thing I didn't install EVE on my C drive.
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SheriffFruitfly
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2007.12.06 06:41:00 -
[34]
I just had to walk my friend through the MS KB article over the phone, because his computer that CCP hosed was his only computer.
CCP needs to address ppl who are locked out of their computer due (a) CCP hosing a windows system file, combined with (b) CCP's advice tht ppl upgrade video drivers, which FORCES a reboot.
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Mia Fabor
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Posted - 2007.12.06 06:57:00 -
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Edited by: Mia Fabor on 06/12/2007 07:01:55
Edited by: Mia Fabor on 06/12/2007 06:57:17
http://www.eve-online.com/patches/patches.asp?s=&system=win&edition=classic
why is the classic to premium d/l still available in patches if they know its causing problems? i thought kieron just announce that they removed it. ok the link doesnt work anymore if u clik on download button
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Dapper Danny
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.12.06 06:58:00 -
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Edited by: Dapper Danny on 06/12/2007 06:59:17
Praise what ever divine being that I have a seperate partition for my Applications...
Its not effecting me but hell why on earth is EVE got a file that shares its name with a damn window system file in the first place?.... isnt that just a no no 
Sure hope those effected get it resolved hassle free, damn. 
**Goes off scratching his head in amazement**
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TorTorden
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.12.06 07:01:00 -
[37]
The boot.ini file should in most cases be possible to rescued by doing a system restore.
From Start menu - accessories. for the hal.dll (Hardware abstraction layer dynamic link library I think it stands for..) is a different matter, the most common action then is the total windows reinstall, there is however a way to rescue it via the recovery console but that is usualy not reachable via OEM system manufactureres.
I used to have that Hal.dll corrupt thing a few times like clock work, but later found that out was a sign of a dying harddrive.
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There is no such thing as good or evil.
Just an egotistic struggle for self empowerment.
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Znurf
Endgame.
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Posted - 2007.12.06 07:03:00 -
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Does Vista even HAVE a boot.ini? :P
When i tried to check out the command to create a new boot.ini file in the commandconsole it said that it is "recommended" for us vista users to use BCDEDIT instead, i dunno what they mean by that but :P
And i dont have any Boot.ini, but this shouldnt be a problem for vista users right, vista asks me if i try to create a new folder if i really want to do it, if a installer tries to remove an important file (if it is?) as boot.ini without asking, then microsoft is just as bad as CCP ;PPPP
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Mia Fabor
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Posted - 2007.12.06 07:03:00 -
[39]
Edited by: Mia Fabor on 06/12/2007 07:03:43
Originally by: TorTorden
The boot.ini file should in most cases be possible to rescued by doing a system restore.
From Start menu - accessories. for the hal.dll (Hardware abstraction layer dynamic link library I think it stands for..) is a different matter, the most common action then is the total windows reinstall, there is however a way to rescue it via the recovery console but that is usualy not reachable via OEM system manufactureres.
I used to have that Hal.dll corrupt thing a few times like clock work, but later found that out was a sign of a dying harddrive.
well cant even get into windows let alone start menu  using fren's lappy atm waiting for a miracle to happen
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Gixxer 1000
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Posted - 2007.12.06 07:05:00 -
[40]
Just plain stupid CCP, "idiot's" is a word that about best describes your actions.
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Mia Fabor
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Posted - 2007.12.06 07:06:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Znurf
Does Vista even HAVE a boot.ini? :P
When i tried to check out the command to create a new boot.ini file in the commandconsole it said that it is "recommended" for us vista users to use BCDEDIT instead, i dunno what they mean by that but :P
And i dont have any Boot.ini, but this shouldnt be a problem for vista users right, vista asks me if i try to create a new folder if i really want to do it, if a installer tries to remove an important file (if it is?) as boot.ini without asking, then microsoft is just as bad as CCP ;PPPP
vista doesnt seem to have problems from my forum trolling on this issue so far
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proclaimed HERETIC
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Posted - 2007.12.06 07:11:00 -
[42]
Using the common backup locations that Coniglietta Magica provided, I added an additional script at the request of some other players that restores the boot.ini from the backup automatically.
proclaimed Heretic = Elmers glue solutions to big arse problems :P
Both found on the home page of www.gamingassist.com.
After this, I'll need a few ideas of what to do with this domain, if anyone has any ideas :P
-proclaimed HERETIC
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ViroRivyera
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Posted - 2007.12.06 07:12:00 -
[43]
I patched my EVE from Classic to Premium using the ingame update function, ive turned off my computer and restared after i played the new version for a bit. Ive started my computer back up and no problems have popped up as such. Am i effectively clear? Or am i still in "unsure" territory.
Ps: My copy of Windows is less than "normal"
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Sha'Uri Dark
Freelancing Corp
Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2007.12.06 07:15:00 -
[44]
If you don't have a windows disk google Windows boot disk. Find your OS version -> make a disk -> use it to boot. Once your up explore the boot disk contents and copy it's boot.ini file -> Paste copied file to C:/ Play eve
IF your windows IS NOT at the default install of C:/Windows you'll have to edit that file with the right path. If you know enuff about computers to not use the default Winblows install path then you should know enuff to fix the boot.ini file.
While its a wonder how this is happening at all *shame CPP* its not the end of the world, just a small step in the right direction.
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As a Freelancer...scratch that Originally by: Shar Tegral
Stop projecting your out of game beliefs of what society should be upon the rest of us.
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Jalespe
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Posted - 2007.12.06 07:19:00 -
[45]
Why haven't any devs responded to these posts? If anything a few words of encouragement would be nice. Something along the lines of "Don't worry everything will be fine. We are in the process of a fix and we are (insert amount of time) away from completing the fix and helping everyone get their f***** up PCs back online."
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Pimpja
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.12.06 07:21:00 -
[46]
EPIC, even more EPIC than the most EPIC CAOD topics.
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proclaimed HERETIC
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Posted - 2007.12.06 07:23:00 -
[47]
All things considered, CCP is probably trying to CYA by checking their patch source to make sure they really can say, "it'll be okay".
Once they source the issue, I'm absolutely sure they'll have this problem knocked down fast.
-heretic
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Zivzend Malloy
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Posted - 2007.12.06 07:28:00 -
[48]
System Restore fixed the problem for me. BOOT.INI was missing from msconfig before I restored, and afterwards my system rebooted fine and BOOT.INI was back. Good thing I browsed the forum before I restarted.
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Znurf
Endgame.
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Posted - 2007.12.06 07:29:00 -
[49]
OR ccp is on their way to some island they bought and this was just a part of their masterplan to slow down the geeks and get rid of the not-as-skilled-geeks ;P Too bad this isnt a problem they can make a patch to fix for those that have already suffered from it :o
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Curtiss Hawk
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Posted - 2007.12.06 07:35:00 -
[50]
In most cases with a bone simple windows xp install a simple message indicating that boot.ini is invalid will be displayed and xp will continue to boot. Those with not so simple partition setups will have issues. Everyone should pay close attention to their startup. If you see the message follow the instructions that have been provided by several members and fix your boot.ini file. For those with more non-standard setups this will be difficult, but not impossible. There are lots of smart people here in the forums and at CCP who can answer your questions and help out.
-Curtiss
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Jenea
Gallente
The Copernicus Institute
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Posted - 2007.12.06 07:35:00 -
[51]
Hmm... hey CCP, **** you.
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Falcon Troy
Caldari
GearBox Corporation
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Posted - 2007.12.06 07:37:00 -
[52]
Yeah it was funny because I took CCP's advice and downloaded the new forceware then got the boot problem on restart. Made one hell of a rant on the Nvidia forums about their ****ty coders. Guess I know who the real idiots are now...
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Glane Sardar
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Posted - 2007.12.06 07:38:00 -
[53]
Sticking to classic eve for now I think, EVE is on c: but might install this one to another drive, just backed up all the system files in the root of c: and archived to another drive :)
Or might just wait for the devs to not rush things and release a fix before installing :)
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chris xxl
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.12.06 07:41:00 -
[54]
must be a random fault. I upgraded late yesterday pm and have rebooted several times with no problems (win xp 32). But i do hope ccp sorts the problem for those affected asap.
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Rocky Roid
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.12.06 07:47:00 -
[55]
Originally by: SheriffFruitfly
Hah - this is nuthin. Just wait til the next patch when they put "format c:\" in the install script.
LOL
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Vishnej
Demonic Retribution
Pure.
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:16:00 -
[56]
Edited by: Vishnej on 06/12/2007 08:20:59
Wow... just... wow.
The default user method to upgrade to the new primary graphics system on the most common OS bricks your computer, unless you have a restore CD. You can't tell your computer is screwed up until you locate a hidden file - your first warning if you're unaware is being unable to boot.
You can't really fsck up bigger than that without formatting C.
I wouldn't discount a few process servers or lawyers spawning at Reykjavfc Airport, terms of service be damned.
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fred red
Minmatar
Minmatar Black Op's
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:28:00 -
[57]
i download and installed the new content late last night and then shut down my pc and went to bed.
woke up this morning pc seemed to boot fine i then saw the boot.ini problem on splash screen and checked my pc seemed mine had been deleted too i have done a system restore to before i installed patch and now eve won't work
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Verification Failure
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Your EVE client installation may have modified, damaged or corrupt files. Please re-install the game client
Verification failed: "C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE\boot.ini", crc:9b428815, expected:6b3a6cf2.
is what i am getting. and i am not planning on reinstalling it till the problem with solved.
Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes |
Achuress
Caldari
Maledictae
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:30:00 -
[58]
No need to be frightened, guys, the fixes are simple and can be found right here.
Enjoy Trinity.
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Bellator Militaris
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:41:00 -
[59]
Once EVE was a good game.....and then they upgraded it.........
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Kaentao
Gallente
Miners In Barges
Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:53:00 -
[60]
If I can run c:\boot.ini from the run cmd line, should I assume I'm okay?
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achoura
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Posted - 2007.12.06 09:14:00 -
[61]
Edited by: achoura on 06/12/2007 09:15:42
Originally by: Kaentao
If I can run c:\boot.ini from the run cmd line, should I assume I'm okay?
Yup (mabey) http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=651488
If you've already patched . Best thing anyone can do at these big patches is un-install eve and download the full new build, always causes less problems.
For clarification it is the classic to premium upgrade that does this (pulled off the website by now) not the full premium build, it's good to go.
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Harriet Hargot
Caldari
Bull at a gate
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Posted - 2007.12.06 09:28:00 -
[62]
I'm sorry but I can't believe how much the following post annoyed me. You have basically said that you saw the fault ON the test server BEFORE CCP was patching, knew about it, developed a workaround for yourself but didn't think to send them a bug report?
This is what having a Test server with player access is for. Your get access to pre-release content with the understanding that you tell them about bugs. CCP would have fixed this if one person TOLD them there was a problem.
*sigh*
The thing that really annoys me is that AFTER you tell us you had the power to stop this, you had a dig at CCP's QA team.
Fortunately this didn't affect me though as I didn't leave the eve directory on the c: drive. Now I need to check my friends can still get in. *sigh*
Originally by: Ayane Shardmoor
Originally by: Aaron Sylasta
Just posting to say I'm getting the boot.ini thing as well. I'd be interested in knowing what this patch is doing to my computer that involves messing up an important system file like that
When I installed the graphics upgrade, the first thing the patcher did was "Delete file: \boot.ini". This image shows specifically what I mean.
I got the missing boot.ini startup error after mucking about with the test server build a couple days ago. Put 2 and 2 together and figured the test patch must've done something. So this time around, I kept an explorer window open watching the C:\ root, while running the content upgrade patch, and voila! C:\boot.ini went bye-bye before my very eyes.
Perhaps CCP's QA team is in need of a little time out.
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velusip
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Posted - 2007.12.06 09:52:00 -
[63]
Originally by: SheriffFruitfly
Hah - this is nuthin. Just wait til the next patch when they put "format c:\" in the install script.
lulz
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Fall Girl
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Posted - 2007.12.06 10:23:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Kasheem Cetanes
Or Use msconfig >.>
cant use msconfig if the user is already locked out of the system
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bungi
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Posted - 2007.12.06 10:28:00 -
[65]
thankyou ccp for f##k### my pc
thought this would have been noticed by running a simple test like installing it
on an xp system prior to release.
i've lost weeks of work and you owe me thousands
was initially pleased with graphics until you turned my pc into a brick
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Cygnus Zhada
Amarr
The Wild Hunt
Pure.
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Posted - 2007.12.06 10:34:00 -
[66]
\o/ for using partitions... There is no e:\boot.ini
:P
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Mr FourEyes
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Posted - 2007.12.06 10:50:00 -
[67]
How the hell do you miss a bug that effects almost every damn xp user. and what are you going to do about besides saying sorry are bad.
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Roemy Schneider
BINFORD
Solidus Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.06 11:04:00 -
[68]
some code monkey is doomed to have a new nickname...
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putting the gist back into logistics |
Duncan Jax
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.12.06 11:31:00 -
[69]
Thanks for the link Mindstar. I was able to recover with the info provided. However this should *never* have happened as I'm sure everyone at CCP would agree. Whoever screwed this up should be fired. It is inexcusable.
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SEYKACHU
Amarr
BlackTalon Mining Corp
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Posted - 2007.12.06 11:45:00 -
[70]
Originally by: CCP Mindstar
This article from Microsoft should be of assistance to those having issues with boot.ini and hal.dll errors when starting Windows.
Have you seen yet how many are having this problem. FIX IT! Dont just refer to an article . I know very well that you can fix it that way but how many will be able to get to their recovery console.
My new vaio wont start as the boot ini file and the hal32 is now missing and it has to go on repairs. Those errors in sonys case also messes up the entire auto restore software suit and similiar for HP. Fix the error, I am not alone in Hal errors since yesterday there are loads of people here having this SERIOUS issue.
Sey
BlackTalon Mining Corp
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Trelborne
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Posted - 2007.12.06 11:50:00 -
[71]
"i've lost weeks of work and you owe me thousands"
I think not. Perhaps you should check the EULA before making such bold claims:
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12. NO WARRANTIES
The Software, System, Game and all Game Content, and all other services and material provided in connection therewith, are provided "AS IS," with all faults, and without warranty of any kind. You assume all risk of use and all risk associated with accessing the System and playing the Game.
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Trel
Originally by: bungi
thankyou ccp for f##k### my pc
thought this would have been noticed by running a simple test like installing it
on an xp system prior to release.
i've lost weeks of work and you owe me thousands
was initially pleased with graphics until you turned my pc into a brick
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Duncan Jax
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.12.06 12:07:00 -
[72]
Edited by: Duncan Jax on 06/12/2007 12:07:30
As a follow up to this problem, even though the MS link fixed the missing hal.dll issue my computer boots noticeably slower now and refuses to find my printer which was never a problem before the Trinity patch.
This patch amounts to malware and is worse than any virus I've ever had.
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Tuberider
Caldari
PURE Legion
Pure.
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Posted - 2007.12.06 12:07:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Trelborne
"i've lost weeks of work and you owe me thousands"
I think not. Perhaps you should check the EULA before making such bold claims:
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12. NO WARRANTIES
The Software, System, Game and all Game Content, and all other services and material provided in connection therewith, are provided "AS IS," with all faults, and without warranty of any kind. You assume all risk of use and all risk associated with accessing the System and playing the Game.
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Trel
Originally by: bungi
thankyou ccp for f##k### my pc
thought this would have been noticed by running a simple test like installing it
on an xp system prior to release.
i've lost weeks of work and you owe me thousands
was initially pleased with graphics until you turned my pc into a brick
what ever troll
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Trelborne
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Posted - 2007.12.06 14:58:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Tuberider
what ever troll
I'm no troll, just someone that gets annoyed by mindless posts.
1. Its unlikely the poster has lost weeks of work, *very* unlikely. Unless said poster has formatted his disk or forced a clean install of Windows. Neither of these scenarious are very likely.
2. CCP owe noone anything. The EULA clearly states (as virtually all software EULAs do) that CCP is not held responsible for any damage caused the the use of their software.
Most likely this poster has spent *no* time reading the other more informative posts that give clear simple instructions on how to fix this issue. Instead, they've just added another mindless rant to a long list, most of which CCP will undoubtably ignore....
Just my $0.02....
Trel (not a troll) :-)
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chinefoo
Caldari
Thundercats
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.06 15:37:00 -
[75]
unfortunatly ccp eula while it says they are not responcible, causeing computers to basicly self destuct,
"bit harsh" but under international law regaurdless what it states they are in fact liable "remem windoz suits" ntm vast makers of many programs who lost thier fight due to bad coding!
need a referance well im not gonna waste time looking i think the average 13 year old is capable of taking 2 min and verify the above as fact.
see does anyone remember battlefeild 1942 remem the patch they put out ? only fix was to format they lost millions of bucks!!! <-- thats a fact
same eul;a also
see where the issue would be if thaey are liable would be if they intentionally did this with knowladge berfore hand and if they offer no correction patch or recoding id say its only a matter of time berfor a lawyer dl the patch and says i think we have a case
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Chu Papa
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Posted - 2007.12.06 15:41:00 -
[76]
It's unbelievable CCP has not yet issued an official apology.. not that it will help bring back fubar:ed PCs but.. at least it's something.
Also the story is out:
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/12/06/eve-online-update-fubars-gamers |
Furion Riddick
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Posted - 2007.12.06 16:29:00 -
[77]
Well I did reboot and got the same error as everyone else, but it booted anyway since I left System restore on and it restored what was missing, interesting, fianlly I can claim that microsoft did something right this time.
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Trelborne
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Posted - 2007.12.06 16:53:00 -
[78]
I always thought the whole point of an EULA was to indemnify companies against these type of mistakes.
Still, you prolly know more than me and IANAL so I'll leave it there....
Trel
Originally by: chinefoo
unfortunatly ccp eula while it says they are not responcible, causeing computers to basicly self destuct,
"bit harsh" but under international law regaurdless what it states they are in fact liable "remem windoz suits" ntm vast makers of many programs who lost thier fight due to bad coding!
need a referance well im not gonna waste time looking i think the average 13 year old is capable of taking 2 min and verify the above as fact.
see does anyone remember battlefeild 1942 remem the patch they put out ? only fix was to format they lost millions of bucks!!! <-- thats a fact
same eul;a also
see where the issue would be if thaey are liable would be if they intentionally did this with knowladge berfore hand and if they offer no correction patch or recoding id say its only a matter of time berfor a lawyer dl the patch and says i think we have a case
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