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Tanis.	Posted - 2007.12.06 11:09:00 - [1] We've been seeing several people reporting that EVE is using too much memory, in some cases upwards of 700mb. If you find that EVE is using too much memory, or your system is running too poorly there is a very simple solution Hit esc and go to the "Display & Graphics" Under the "Graphic Content Settings" header set "Cache Size" to "low" or "off". If you try this and it does not work, please file a bug report so we can investigate (info is in my signature) ____________________________ I break things. Tanis. Testing Lead EVE Online CCP Games GM Voodoo > That plan really straddles the fine line between genius and idiocy. Tanis. > And that differs from everything else I do how? [Bug Report Here][How to write a good bug report][Test server rules]

TerrorWOLF PURE Legion Pure.	Posted - 2007.12.06 11:11:00 - [2] I put it to Extreme and it still only using 300MB even after a few jumps. Is it working as intended ?? May Your Death Be Slow And Painful
SnakeByte86	Posted - 2007.12.06 11:13:00 - [3] Edited by: SnakeByte86 on 06/12/2007 11:13:59 I put it on normal, and it was using over 1 gig. Yay EDIT. Though it was using so much, i wasnt lagging at all. Since i do have 2 gigs of ram. But i figured normal would not be that high.
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova	Posted - 2007.12.06 11:27:00 - [4] Originally by: Tanis. We've been seeing several people reporting that EVE is using too much memory, in some cases upwards of 700mb. If you find that EVE is using too much memory, or your system is running too poorly there is a very simple solution Hit esc and go to the "Display & Graphics" Under the "Graphic Content Settings" header set "Cache Size" to "low" or "off". If you try this and it does not work, please file a bug report so we can investigate (info is in my signature) what are the values for each option btw? (considering that off is zero and extreme is "all your mem are belong to us") --- planetary interaction idea!

Tanis.	Posted - 2007.12.06 11:29:00 - [5] Memory usage of the client has changed a bit with this patch. I'll try to briefly explain how it works now, hopefully that will help. With the updated graphics engine some assets are pre-loaded that previously were not. This should not effect people too drastically if they set their cache size to "off". "normal", or expected memory usage of the client, with the cache turned off should be between 200mb and 500mb, depending upon what the graphics engine is loading (models, effects, etc.). You will find that the client will use more memory in systems that have a large number of different station types. The cache size being set to anything other than "off" will cause the client to allow itself to allocate more memory to store graphical assets for faster loading. Depending upon your location and what is going on around you this can be filled up very quickly, or possibly never filled. So basically, in short, because of the new cache setting, it can look like EVE has a memory leak, when in fact it is just being told to keep more assets in cache than it was before the patch. Again, this setting can be changed to "off" which should give you memory usage similar to pre-patch clients. If you are finding EVE is using more memory than your system can handle definitely try setting the cache size to "off" first. If the issue persists we definitely want information, in a bug report, so that we can get any other issues fixed. ____________________________ I break things. Tanis. Testing Lead EVE Online CCP Games GM Voodoo > That plan really straddles the fine line between genius and idiocy. Tanis. > And that differs from everything else I do how? [Bug Report Here][How to write a good bug report][Test server rules]

NeoPulsation	Posted - 2007.12.06 11:37:00 - [6] I get it to extreme and it laods everything realllly quicjkly now, should help in big battles maybe. Only time will tell ive got 3gig of physical memory anyway as I increased it on purpose, only used 500k memory so far though Tis all good

Tanis.	Posted - 2007.12.06 11:43:00 - [7] Yes, it should help quite a bit in fleet fights, IF you have enough RAM. I would suggest the following guidelines for cache settings: Amount of system memory \| Cache Setting ------------------------------------------------------- 500mb of RAM = off 1GB of RAM = Low 2GB of RAM = Medium 2GB of RAM = High 3+GB of RAM = Extreme ____________________________ I break things. Tanis. Testing Lead EVE Online CCP Games GM Voodoo > That plan really straddles the fine line between genius and idiocy. Tanis. > And that differs from everything else I do how? [Bug Report Here][How to write a good bug report][Test server rules]

Shionoya Risa Caldari The Xenodus Initiative.	Posted - 2007.12.06 11:53:00 - [8] Originally by: Tanis. Yes, it should help quite a bit in fleet fights, IF you have enough RAM. I would suggest the following guidelines for cache settings: Amount of system memory \| Cache Setting ------------------------------------------------------- 500mb of RAM = off 1GB of RAM = Low 2GB of RAM = Medium 2GB of RAM = High 3+GB of RAM = Extreme So, for 2Gb of ram, and 2 clients open, low/off? Right? ----- Quote: Argh! Natural light, get it off me! Get it off me!
Alitea Berbelek Caldari Intenso Company	Posted - 2007.12.06 12:16:00 - [9] Originally by: Tanis. Amount of system memory \| Cache Setting ------------------------------------------------------- 2GB of RAM = Medium 2GB of RAM = High What's the difference?

Tanis.	Posted - 2007.12.06 12:18:00 - [10] Originally by: Alitea Berbelek Originally by: Tanis. Amount of system memory \| Cache Setting ------------------------------------------------------- 2GB of RAM = Medium 2GB of RAM = High What's the difference? Means you should be ok using either setting. ____________________________ I break things. Tanis. Testing Lead EVE Online CCP Games GM Voodoo > That plan really straddles the fine line between genius and idiocy. Tanis. > And that differs from everything else I do how? [Bug Report Here][How to write a good bug report][Test server rules]


Iva Soreass Personal Vendetta	Posted - 2007.12.06 12:35:00 - [11] I take it this is for the new gfx//premium content only ? cause i don't see that options (low//med//high//extreme) in my display + graphics options.
Archer79 Caldari MacroIntel United Corporations Against Macros	Posted - 2007.12.06 12:41:00 - [12] @Shionoya Risa: I've been standing in front of a mission hub with two clients set to normal caching now... after fifteen minutes, the processes have a working set of ~ 512MB and a virtual size of ~ 770MB -- OP: "I don't know how to f*ck!" Reply: "rtfm!"
Chancer Minmatar Blueprint Haus Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.06 13:46:00 - [13] Originally by: Tanis. Amount of system memory \| Cache Setting ------------------------------------------------------- <500mb of RAM = off 500MB to 1GB of RAM = Low 1GB to 2GB of RAM = Medium 2GB to 3GB of RAM = High 3+GB of RAM = Extreme I'm guessing that that is how it should read.
KISOGOKU	Posted - 2007.12.06 13:54:00 - [14] Edited by: KISOGOKU on 06/12/2007 13:55:49 No it is not ,i set it to high at classic version.Look at the Display&graphics at right side youll see graphing content setting and cache size. Originally by: Iva Soreass I take it this is for the new gfx//premium content only ?

Tanis.	Posted - 2007.12.06 13:58:00 - [15] Originally by: Chancer Originally by: Tanis. Amount of system memory \| Cache Setting ------------------------------------------------------- <500mb of RAM = off 500MB to 1GB of RAM = Low 1GB to 2GB of RAM = Medium 2GB to 3GB of RAM = High 3+GB of RAM = Extreme I'm guessing that that is how it should read. Nope, it's written correctly in my post. Just means that if you've got 2GB of RAM you can choose which to use. ____________________________ I break things. Tanis. Testing Lead EVE Online CCP Games GM Voodoo > That plan really straddles the fine line between genius and idiocy. Tanis. > And that differs from everything else I do how? [Bug Report Here][How to write a good bug report][Test server rules]

Chancer Minmatar Blueprint Haus Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.06 14:10:00 - [16] I guessed wrong.
Sharless	Posted - 2007.12.06 14:12:00 - [17] Is this RAM settig stuf what keeps freezing my comp up if i run two accounts at once? Cuz its getting irritating. I could run 3 at once, now i cant run 2 for more than 10 minuts.
bobtheminer Seven. Enuma Elish.	Posted - 2007.12.06 14:15:00 - [18] Edited by: bobtheminer on 06/12/2007 14:16:10 dunno if this is at all related to the new way the engine handles content, but i can run 2 clients fine with prem content till it comes to quiting, then 1 client ussaly bugs out on me, almost completly locks the system up have to use the kboard to manually close it down through task manager to get my pc back to life, i orginaly though it was just preimum content or how high id iset the cache but running classic and no cache ive run into the same problem. also thats with shadows turned off and neither hdr or aa turned on my pc is a dual core amd 5600+ 8800 gts and 2 gig of performance ram so i shouldent be running into problems through lack of power so woundering if any 1 has any ideas
Bimjo Caldari SKULLDOGS	Posted - 2007.12.06 14:18:00 - [19] Originally by: Sharless Is this RAM settig stuf what keeps freezing my comp up if i run two accounts at once? Cuz its getting irritating. I could run 3 at once, now i cant run 2 for more than 10 minuts. set both caches to off and test, if all ok, then try low, rinse, repeat Q6600,8800 Ultra SLI, Vista 32, 4Gig RAM
Sharless	Posted - 2007.12.06 14:19:00 - [20] Edited by: Sharless on 06/12/2007 14:23:24 My comp just freezzes completely. I cant do anything but hard-reset. A single account however, runs smooth and brilliant - no probs whatsoever I have: Pentium 4 3.08 Ghz 1024 RAM x1600 pro Sapphire RAdeon with 256mb Got the shadows all off and Cache and off as well. WHat is freezing me up?

Bo Bojangles Minmatar High4Life SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.06 14:31:00 - [21] How will clients react to the new cache selector switch where users have manually gone into their prefs.ini file located in x:\Documents and Settings\<User>\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE\settings folder and manually set the buffersize and/or added the advancedDevice=1 as was suggested for performance improvements on the old client. I've looked at my prefs.ini file and while there are new items such as HDR and bloom now, those settings mentioned are still what I'd manually set them to before the patch. Thank you!
RogueAnt Minmatar R.U.S.T. Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.06 14:32:00 - [22] Originally by: Sharless Edited by: Sharless on 06/12/2007 14:23:24 My comp just freezzes completely. I cant do anything but hard-reset. A single account however, runs smooth and brilliant - no probs whatsoever I have: Pentium 4 3.08 Ghz 1024 RAM x1600 pro Sapphire RAdeon with 256mb Got the shadows all off and Cache and off as well. WHat is freezing me up? check that other processes on your computer are not using all your memory :) Click
Valrandir Gallente Slacker Industries Cult of War	Posted - 2007.12.06 14:33:00 - [23] Originally by: Sharless Edited by: Sharless on 06/12/2007 14:23:24 My comp just freezzes completely. I cant do anything but hard-reset. A single account however, runs smooth and brilliant - no probs whatsoever I have: Pentium 4 3.08 Ghz 1024 RAM x1600 pro Sapphire RAdeon with 256mb Got the shadows all off and Cache and off as well. WHat is freezing me up? ATI -------------------------------- This has surpassed the Yarrdware specification and has been dubbed Uberware - Oveur
Sharless	Posted - 2007.12.06 14:38:00 - [24] Originally by: Valrandir ATI Bullocks. Anyway, i doubt that ATI is responsible for the freezes. I can run other pretty tense games without issues. Id like to know what makes me bug out? It runs smoothly UNTIL it just crashes... odd. No signals that oher stuff goes bad...

Tanis.	Posted - 2007.12.06 14:44:00 - [25] Originally by: bobtheminer Edited by: bobtheminer on 06/12/2007 14:16:10 dunno if this is at all related to the new way the engine handles content, but i can run 2 clients fine with prem content till it comes to quiting, then 1 client ussaly bugs out on me, almost completly locks the system up have to use the kboard to manually close it down through task manager to get my pc back to life, i orginaly though it was just preimum content or how high id iset the cache but running classic and no cache ive run into the same problem. also thats with shadows turned off and neither hdr or aa turned on my pc is a dual core amd 5600+ 8800 gts and 2 gig of performance ram so i shouldent be running into problems through lack of power so woundering if any 1 has any ideas Can you please submit a BR with a logfile and dxdiag.. we'd love to get that info so we can look into your issue and get it fixed. ____________________________ I break things. Tanis. Testing Lead EVE Online CCP Games GM Voodoo > That plan really straddles the fine line between genius and idiocy. Tanis. > And that differs from everything else I do how? [Bug Report Here][How to write a good bug report][Test server rules]

bobtheminer Seven. Enuma Elish.	Posted - 2007.12.06 14:52:00 - [26] i appear to of fixed it, belive it may of just been an unreleated issue with using my browser at the same time as eve in windowed mode i updated my browser opera btw to the latest version and have thus far been problem free again
Sharless	Posted - 2007.12.06 15:07:00 - [27] Edited by: Sharless on 06/12/2007 15:08:41 any clues on how to fix my issue? I see now that my comp uses like 934mb of memory when i run eve and firefox together.. One client, Cache low this time...
bobtheminer Seven. Enuma Elish.	Posted - 2007.12.06 15:15:00 - [28] i thought id solved this updating my browser but came back to get me after some ratting so running log sever now while doing some ratting see if it holds anything usefull for ccp
Iva Soreass Personal Vendetta	Posted - 2007.12.06 15:52:00 - [29] Edited by: Iva Soreass on 06/12/2007 15:54:18 Originally by: KISOGOKU Edited by: KISOGOKU on 06/12/2007 13:55:49 No it is not ,i set it to high at classic version.Look at the Display&graphics at right side youll see graphing content setting and cache size. Originally by: Iva Soreass I take it this is for the new gfx//premium content only ? /shrugs Here is what i see on my laptop (not the greatest but runs eve ok) im not at home now and wont be untill monday but this looked exacly the same on my pc - Display And Graphics content settings with NO options to chose cache. As you can see no options :s
peroxide chase	Posted - 2007.12.06 15:57:00 - [30] is there any way to ensure eve is loaded 100% into ram ? i have 8gb of ram on my workstation with a xeon 3230 and would like to be as lag free as posible, can a INI file be edited to go into uber extreme mode ?

Michael Snark Blackrain Solutions	Posted - 2007.12.06 16:20:00 - [31] Not sure about how much it was used up, but I've got my FPS below 5 at the end of Shipyard Thieft pocket one. Logged off and got "memory can't be "read"" error (stack overflow?) Logged back back in mission area and got around 75-80 FPS
Aleksei Thraddash Minmatar The Buggers	Posted - 2007.12.06 16:21:00 - [32] Originally by: peroxide chase Edited by: peroxide chase on 06/12/2007 15:58:42 is there any way to ensure eve is loaded 100% into ram ? i have 8gb of ram on my workstation with a xeon 3230 and would like to be as lag free as posible, can a INI file be edited to go into uber extreme mode ? also i get lag when pulling in fighters (1/2-1/4 second mini freezes for each fighter) I believe the prefs.ini setting is resourceCacheSize=512 for extreme, worth giving higher settings a try.
KISOGOKU	Posted - 2007.12.06 16:31:00 - [33] sorry i looked to pic and saw that i did not say i enabled advanced settings.can you try again after you enabled advanced settings ,propbably something related to it good luck Originally by: Iva Soreass /shrugs Here is what i see on my laptop Display And Graphics content settings with NO options to chose cache. As you can see no options :s
bobtheminer Seven. Enuma Elish.	Posted - 2007.12.06 16:40:00 - [34] my issue really does seem to be related to browsing while play, just kill 2 spawns without opening my browser and both clients closed without issue ive done it several times before where ive been looking in this thread while killing off 2 spawns and the end result is 1 or both clients locks up
Iva Soreass Personal Vendetta	Posted - 2007.12.06 16:40:00 - [35] Originally by: KISOGOKU sorry i looked to pic and saw that i did not say i enabled advanced settings.can you try again after you enabled advanced settings ,propbably something related to it good luck Originally by: Iva Soreass /shrugs Here is what i see on my laptop Display And Graphics content settings with NO options to chose cache. As you can see no options :s Here is what it shows with adv settings box ticked - Still no options for low//med//high//extreeme
Bo Bojangles Minmatar High4Life SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.06 16:43:00 - [36] Bumping my own question,... Originally by: Bo Bojangles How will clients react to the new cache selector switch where users have manually gone into their prefs.ini file located in x:\Documents and Settings\<User>\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE\settings folder and manually set the buffersize and/or added the advancedDevice=1 as was suggested for performance improvements on the old client. I've looked at my prefs.ini file and while there are new items such as HDR and bloom now, those settings mentioned are still what I'd manually set them to before the patch. Thank you!
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova	Posted - 2007.12.06 16:50:00 - [37] Originally by: Valrandir Originally by: Sharless Edited by: Sharless on 06/12/2007 14:23:24 My comp just freezzes completely. I cant do anything but hard-reset. A single account however, runs smooth and brilliant - no probs whatsoever I have: Pentium 4 3.08 Ghz 1024 RAM x1600 pro Sapphire RAdeon with 256mb Got the shadows all off and Cache and off as well. WHat is freezing me up? ATI i'm running the same exact card and I'm having a blast btw. 30-40fps outside station ftw. never thought that my ole XP-m 2500+ at 2800+ could pump this much \o\ --- planetary interaction idea!
KISOGOKU	Posted - 2007.12.06 16:57:00 - [38] sorry iva i have nothing to say left my settings pic,i hope someone can explain why i have and you have not with classic client.I have 2gb ram and x1300pro atm http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/7665/20071206164858jn5.jpg Originally by: Iva Soreass [ Here is what it shows with adv settings box ticked - Still no options for low//med//high//extreeme
Iva Soreass Personal Vendetta	Posted - 2007.12.06 17:10:00 - [39] Originally by: KISOGOKU Thats fine KISOGOKU thank you for trying to help.
Admus Hounds Of War Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.12.06 18:20:00 - [40] I've been having this problem where my client just crashes; I get one of Microsoft's "We are sorry for your incovenience, blah blah this program is closing" messages where it prompts you to send an error report. I believe this tends to happen, or at least it first happened and has continued to happen, when I tamper with the bloom settings in the new engine. I have HDR enabled and whenever I change the bloom setting and close the options window, it craps out on me. Any ideas? Am I a good old fashioned internet R-tard? ---------------------------------------------------------- "Villains always have antidotes. They're funny that way."

breadcat	Posted - 2007.12.06 18:54:00 - [41] Edited by: breadcat on 06/12/2007 18:55:04 I like that option. Especially extreme. 867 MB Cache size ftw. ^^
javer 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.12.06 19:31:00 - [42] Edited by: javer on 06/12/2007 19:31:23 1 client normal cache=550mb, extreme=1.2gb.. and its a mem leak as it was growing at a rate of 1mb/s -------------------------------------------- Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their Level and beat you with experience.
Iva Soreass Personal Vendetta	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:04:00 - [43] Can a Dev Please answer my question.
Hehulk Black Sea Industries Cult of War	Posted - 2007.12.06 22:01:00 - [44] What are those of us with classic ment to do? I can't access the cache settings because I've got a little note there telling me I can't run premium, but eve's memory usuage keeps going up until it locks up and I have to force a shut down with the system manager. ---------- It's great being minmatar, ain't it
Hugh Ruka Caldari Exploratio et Industria Morispatia	Posted - 2007.12.06 22:09:00 - [45] Edited by: Hugh Ruka on 06/12/2007 22:11:37 Originally by: KISOGOKU sorry iva i have nothing to say left my settings pic,i hope someone can explain why i have and you have not with classic client.I have 2gb ram and x1300pro atm http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/7665/20071206164858jn5.jpg Originally by: Iva Soreass [ Here is what it shows with adv settings box ticked - Still no options for low//med//high//extreeme Notice that your settings window says you can run Premium content, while Iva's says not able to. So that's the difference to me (the only one immediately noticable). It looks like that changes the settings box where you have the cache option and start download button but Iva has none of them. It seems to be a screwup on CCP side (bad programming, however I have to verify tomorrow on my office laptop as it can not run Premium). Iva, I suggest you look into you prefs.ini for a similar setting and adjust there (save a backup of prefs.ini). And CCP, I can run the Premium content, but I have no diskspace to install it. Would be good if the checkbox in the client actualy tried to estimate the needed diskspace and put up a warning. I discovered after downloading (to a NAS drive) and trying to install (upgrade from classic to premium). EDIT: the correct prefs.ini option seems to be: resourceCacheSize=0 I have it 0, because I set the cache to off in the settings screen. Originally by: Aravel Thon Originally by: Nith Batoxxx Hi my alt just leanred to fly the ferox............... I am so so terribly sorry...
Emperor D'Hoffryn No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2007.12.06 22:11:00 - [46] i had 3 clients running last night with premium content, all set to extreme cache mode. after a few hours of flying around, the mem usuage got up to max 680megs per client. I only have 2 gig of memory, so this presented some problems with paging, but with my raptor raid array, it was bearable since i was just moving stuff around and doing logistics stuff. after about 5 hours of continous play, one client crashed out on me. I restarted him, and he started at about 200 meg of mem usuage, and started climbing from there as i did stuff again. when the client crashed i get the same error as i get sometimes when just quiting, which is the same as everytime i stay on till downtime and am kicked by the server: a C++ runtime error. Originally by: Snuggly It's just so great to have an actual reason to not die, incentive is fantastic!
Sharless	Posted - 2007.12.06 22:19:00 - [47] Edited by: Sharless on 06/12/2007 22:23:49 Edited by: Sharless on 06/12/2007 22:22:36 Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Valrandir Originally by: Sharless Edited by: Sharless on 06/12/2007 14:23:24 My comp just freezzes completely. I cant do anything but hard-reset. A single account however, runs smooth and brilliant - no probs whatsoever I have: Pentium 4 3.08 Ghz 1024 RAM x1600 pro Sapphire RAdeon with 256mb Got the shadows all off and Cache and off as well. WHat is freezing me up? ATI i'm running the same exact card and I'm having a blast btw. 30-40fps outside station ftw. never thought that my ole XP-m 2500+ at 2800+ could pump this much \o\ ITs not the card thats problematic. I run a single client smooth as frigging hell. I can switch everything on and enjoy a sweet ass eve ride, but the problem is when I try to run 2 instances. It functions well, no issues, but suddenly it just freezes up and i cant even use my mouse anymore, so im forced to reset the computer by keeping the power button pressed down for 10 seconds. What i tried thusfar: I increased my virtual memory to maximum, tried turning sound, shadows and cache all off but it doesnt prevent it from freezing. I used MSConfig to disable all unnecessary crap, but that doesnt change the performance either. My processor seems to keep running at 90ish %... What to do? It should be able to run well... Cant see what else I should/could do to get this to work. In classic I can run even more accounts with only a so-so drop in FPS on each account. I an even run Firefox in the meantime and brwose the net.
Gee'Kin Tha Specialz	Posted - 2007.12.06 22:33:00 - [48] Originally by: Sharless Edited by: Sharless on 06/12/2007 22:23:49 Edited by: Sharless on 06/12/2007 22:22:36 Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Valrandir Originally by: Sharless Edited by: Sharless on 06/12/2007 14:23:24 My comp just freezzes completely. I cant do anything but hard-reset. A single account however, runs smooth and brilliant - no probs whatsoever I have: Pentium 4 3.08 Ghz 1024 RAM x1600 pro Sapphire RAdeon with 256mb Got the shadows all off and Cache and off as well. WHat is freezing me up? ATI i'm running the same exact card and I'm having a blast btw. 30-40fps outside station ftw. never thought that my ole XP-m 2500+ at 2800+ could pump this much \o\ ITs not the card thats problematic. I run a single client smooth as frigging hell. I can switch everything on and enjoy a sweet ass eve ride, but the problem is when I try to run 2 instances. It functions well, no issues, but suddenly it just freezes up and i cant even use my mouse anymore, so im forced to reset the computer by keeping the power button pressed down for 10 seconds. What i tried thusfar: I increased my virtual memory to maximum, tried turning sound, shadows and cache all off but it doesnt prevent it from freezing. I used MSConfig to disable all unnecessary crap, but that doesnt change the performance either. My processor seems to keep running at 90ish %... What to do? It should be able to run well... Cant see what else I should/could do to get this to work. In classic I can run even more accounts with only a so-so drop in FPS on each account. I an even run Firefox in the meantime and brwose the net. Same here with 2 clients. Random lockups / freezing and hickups. AMd 64 dual 5200+ 2 gig X1950 . cant even put my finger on the problem as i tried even de lowest settings. I do notice this client isnt really tweaked for the moment. bu What the hell .. hopefully there will be a nice one soon. . --------------------------------------------> Plz tickle my brain. I wanna have a Brainfart ! -------------------------------------------->
Last Wolf Templars of Space	Posted - 2007.12.06 22:36:00 - [49] Originally by: Iva Soreass Originally by: KISOGOKU sorry i looked to pic and saw that i did not say i enabled advanced settings.can you try again after you enabled advanced settings ,propbably something related to it good luck Originally by: Iva Soreass /shrugs Here is what i see on my laptop Display And Graphics content settings with NO options to chose cache. As you can see no options :s Here is what it shows with adv settings box ticked - Still no options for low//med//high//extreeme I have the same problem as you.
Corvidian	Posted - 2007.12.06 22:57:00 - [50] Originally by: Last Wolf Originally by: Iva Soreass Originally by: KISOGOKU sorry i looked to pic and saw that i did not say i enabled advanced settings.can you try again after you enabled advanced settings ,propbably something related to it good luck Originally by: Iva Soreass /shrugs Here is what i see on my laptop Display And Graphics content settings with NO options to chose cache. As you can see no options :s Here is what it shows with adv settings box ticked - Still no options for low//med//high//extreeme I have the same problem as you. this option is ONLY avalible for computers that support the premium content

Michael Snark Blackrain Solutions	Posted - 2007.12.06 23:06:00 - [51] More intel on mission FPS drop I've ended up mission with 19 FPS in cleared deadspace. Docked and warped back - woops, it's 90 FPS now. Any clues? :)
Vohzd	Posted - 2007.12.07 00:24:00 - [52] I couldnt wait to see the new graphic content and downloaded the premium patch [before 4h00 GMT] and installed it as an update to the old graphics. I had already tested many times if my pc was able to run the new graphic, and, fortunately, it always said "your NVIDIA GeForce 6200 supports Shader Model 3.0". however, I noticed there was something wrong right after starting the login page; the background was black [where it was supposed to have the "EVE trinity" logo] and the mouse cursor was too slow when moving. once the game started, I saw all those wonderful graphics. so beautiful. but, when I tried to move the camera around the station it was clear that I wouldnt be able to run the new graphics; got a 15 FPS inside the station and when I left the station the game crashed in 2 seconds. tried others 3 times and happened exactly the same thing [changing the cache size on each attempt]. then I restarted my pc [fortunately, EVE is installed in a different part of the HD, not in the same where Windows is installed]. and I kept unable to play using the new graphics. my question is why is that happening? this is an old pc, but its not that bad. (3Ghz processor, 1,5Gb RAM and GeForce 6200 256Mb) is that enough to run the premium graphics? or could that be due to some kind of bug during the installation? ps: sorry my poor english. =/ ah, the old graphic is going very well, though. thanks for reading. Vohzd
F90OEX	Posted - 2007.12.07 00:50:00 - [53] I'm using close to 900K in mem using the extreme setting,from about 2hrs of eve. Shadow is set to normal, HDR is off.
Pierson Lehman	Posted - 2007.12.07 02:46:00 - [54] Experiencing same problems here xept I've got a hard time running a single client(normally use 2 without problems). My problem started ca 24 hours before the servers went offline to apply Trinity. I didnt change any settings and didnt install or change my system in any way, just suddenly each client required a constant 100% cpu(even while I'm in a station... Before the problem, the CPU was at 50% with both clients up during indling in a station. Right now I can log onto the game with a single client and I wait for 1-3 minutes until it disconnects. So I cant play the game at all. I have reinstalled the game with the Trinity expansion and it's all the same. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- System Model: SN25V10 BIOS: )Phoenix - Award WorkstationBIOS v6.00PG Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+, MMX, 3DNow, ~2.0GHz Memory: 1024MB RAM Page File: 610MB used, 1849MB available Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904) DX Setup Parameters: Not found DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode
Jolnas Arbiter	Posted - 2007.12.07 05:54:00 - [55] Uhh... I've got 2gb and I'm setting it to extreme. 512 mb really isn't very much and I've never seen eve take more then 700mb memory... so it probably won't go over 1.5gb memory ever. EVEN IF IT DOES then it should just go into the swap file (onto your hdd) so I doubt you'd have crashes on any setting with 1/2 clients if you have 1gb or more of ram. (although alt tab might be a tad slow)
Angelus Custos Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.12.07 08:46:00 - [56] Edited by: Angelus Custos on 07/12/2007 08:46:51 I'm running two clients and experience degrading performance over time. Especially noticeable is mouse stutter in other programs (like web browser). I have 4 gig of ram on win XP (so actually 3,25 or closer to 3), and neither client use more then 600mb with High settings. This gave me around 1,5 gig free ram accoring to Task Manager when I experience these problems. When I decreased the Cache the problems dissappear, still that seems strange with so much memory available. I wan't EVE to use more memory but without the stutter
Neth'Rae Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2007.12.07 08:55:00 - [57] Edited by: Neth''Rae on 07/12/2007 08:56:48 Edited by: Neth''Rae on 07/12/2007 08:55:38 I want eve to use 2gb ram at least, I got 4gb ram installed! Originally by: F90OEX I'm using close to 900K in mem using the extreme setting,from about 2hrs of eve. Shadow is set to normal, HDR is off. Same here :) Request signatures at EVE-GFX
Kyra Felann Gallente Red Eye .Inc.	Posted - 2007.12.07 10:22:00 - [58] I put it on "extreme" because I have 4G of RAM and it loads things quicker after the first time. Yay! It uses less than 1G even on "extreme" so it's fine for me.
Ader Genisis Industries	Posted - 2007.12.07 11:32:00 - [59] If you want an alternative "Task Manager", here is Process Explorer from MS. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/utilities/processexplorer.mspx
Billy TwoMirrors	Posted - 2007.12.07 12:17:00 - [60] What I want to know is why AA does not work from within the game but crashes the game instead. I have to set all AA and AF settings from my desktop, but it seems to work. I also would like the devs to make it clear what every setting does in the options menu instead of making up some big word and slapping it in just to make themselves look clever.

Antion Gallente Koshaku Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.12.07 17:14:00 - [61] Edited by: Antion on 07/12/2007 17:14:38 Originally by: Ader If you want an alternative "Task Manager", here is Process Explorer from MS. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/utilities/processexplorer.mspx If you do use this, just be aware that SecureROM (the copy protection used by crysis/bioshock/several others) will not allow you to start it if you have Processexplorer open. All you have to do is close it, and it will work fine. ------------------- Director, KAZO
R0b1n Ho0d Amarr	Posted - 2007.12.07 19:25:00 - [62] It is important for everyone to remember, that all these problems aren't nessecarily EVEs fault. Vohzd > your problem lies with "nVidia 6200 256mb", that card may support SM 3.0, but i'm better a high end 5 series Geforce has more raw processing power, plus the 6200 uses system memory as GFX RAM, which is poor compared to dedicated memory. Also those with large amounts of RAM and who are experiencing lag with extreme cache, the windows OS will page data to the harddrive regardless of system memory usage, so thats why you are seeing a slow down.
Tobias Sjodin Ore Mongers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.12.07 19:55:00 - [63] I'm having a really weird issue, when I run the game in windowed mode sometimes the fps drops to slideshow. But as I move the window around (to a certain point) it all comes back to smooth again and stays that way until I move the window again. So if I find the sweet spot and don't move the window it's all good. Weird. - Recruitment open again-
R0b1n Ho0d Amarr	Posted - 2007.12.07 19:59:00 - [64] ensure you have AA and AF disabled in your graphics driver options. an example is with AA or AF enabled, sometimes moving a window infront or behind the Eve window, such as MSN Messenger which uses transparancy can cause the client to slideshow.
Okapir	Posted - 2007.12.08 11:18:00 - [65] lol Not necessarily Eve's fault! you're havin a giraffe?
Fanjita	Posted - 2007.12.08 11:43:00 - [66] Edited by: Fanjita on 08/12/2007 11:44:25 I wonder if all the peeps having memory problems are running 32-bit software if so then its not only physical memory you have to watch for but also the virtual memory address space which in a 32-bit os is 2 gig if an app goes over the 2 gig allocation it will crash to desktop, theres an option in the boot.ini to change this to a 3gb limit but its not recommended to do this and the app has to be 'aware' of this change and be able to use a 3gig virtual address space. This is also something ccp programmers should be aware of, there programmers after all and maybe they could check up on.
Minmatar Citizen 4521577	Posted - 2007.12.08 16:53:00 - [67] Originally by: Fanjita theres an option in the boot.ini lol
Galliana Foresta Fleeting Moments of Insanity	Posted - 2007.12.08 20:39:00 - [68] Originally by: Minmatar Citizen 4521577 Originally by: Fanjita theres an option in the boot.ini lol ---------------
Fanjita	Posted - 2007.12.09 05:44:00 - [69] Originally by: Minmatar Citizen 4521577 Originally by: Fanjita theres an option in the boot.ini lol Aye i know its funny :) but i'm trying to help maybe ccp should hire another 1000 monkeys to hammer at keyboards and maybe come up with some worthwhile code :)
Lord DerekSegan	Posted - 2007.12.09 06:36:00 - [70] I have a machine as follows: Vista 64 bit, FOUR (4) GB ram, dual core 3 Ghz CPU, TWIN 8800GT (Sli). I have HDR and AA and AF enabled by using nHancer from nHancer.com. The game works GREAT for the first 45 minutes after I start it. Then it starts to slow down. Yes, I do Alt-tab and I also run Ventrillo in the back. But the slow down gets worse and worse and worse, and then eventually, the game basically stops working. If I quit the game, 9 times out of 10, it says "this program has stopped working, looking for a solution" then it basically just closes. Please fix this! My machine CAN run this game -- I get over 120 Frames a Second until this memory leak breaks it. THANKS Hello

Bosjathfort Dragon's Rage Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2007.12.10 00:47:00 - [71] Approx 400MB memory usage without graphic contents loaded, outside of 4-4station in jita while 560ppl in local... is it good or bad ? (>'-')> <('-'<) ^('-')^ v('-')v <('-'<) ^('-')^ (>'-')> t(^-^)>
Jarod Hawke Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2007.12.10 13:55:00 - [72] Edited by: Jarod Hawke on 10/12/2007 13:56:35 Unfortunately this settings has absolutely no positive effect on lag, fleet battles. So far, lag has become far worse with screens completely freezing... All the promised gain of performance hasn't happended. My setup: P5k, 4 gigs of RAM, 8800GTX, Vista 64-bit.... No change in the settting matters... There are a lot of framedrops, hickups etc... Gatecamps are sudden death if you get into one because there is no response from your controls.. etc.. you get the drift? I play with 2 clients... Client always crashes out after having it open for more than a couple of hours. 1 Client always seems to use around 1.3 GIG (that is right) RAM and the other 600 MB... Funny huh? Could a dev rspond to this?
SweetSerenity Imperial Academy	Posted - 2007.12.10 16:07:00 - [73] Originally by: peroxide chase Edited by: peroxide chase on 06/12/2007 15:58:42 is there any way to ensure eve is loaded 100% into ram ? i have 8gb of ram on my workstation with a xeon 3230 and would like to be as lag free as posible, can a INI file be edited to go into uber extreme mode ? also i get lag when pulling in fighters (1/2-1/4 second mini freezes for each fighter) You should be able to accomplish this easily enough with a ram disk. Just be sure that you have enough left over for your system to do actual system stuff. I'd save your preferences and such to a hard disk, then every time you boot up the system, you'd obviously have to install the client again; that really shouldn't take longer than 1 minute.
MalVortex	Posted - 2007.12.10 16:13:00 - [74] Huh, so EVE has a memory leak huh? This might explain the general system slowdown I've been noticing running it. Managed to hit nearly 900MB just puttering around highsec doing nothing today, dropping FPS to 1/3 normal and causing high amounts of system slowdown. I'll see if I can't get more detailed information later. Specs: AMD Athlon X2 4200 MSI K8N Premium Mobo NVidia Gigabyte 7600GT (nov 6th nvidia drivers IIRC) 3GB DDR2 Ram The odd thing was the system was slowling down considerably, however I still had 1.2GB of ram free, no heavy processor use on either core, and no harddrive access going on. I'm running EVE with normal shadows, no HDR, no AA, premium content, so there should be no reason for such slowdown... except apparently for this new memory leak.
Phoenix Allfire	Posted - 2007.12.10 18:15:00 - [75] The cache option is supposed to be in the classic version of the client anyhow. There seems to be way to many bugs in this expansion. Maybe CCP would like to hire some real testers to test expansions before they release it? Yeah, that would of prevented the community backlash ...
Minmatar Citizen 4521577	Posted - 2007.12.11 00:45:00 - [76] Originally by: Phoenix Allfire The cache option is supposed to be in the classic version of the client anyhow. There seems to be way to many bugs in this expansion. Maybe CCP would like to hire some real testers to test expansions before they release it? Yeah, that would of prevented the community backlash ... Hire testers? What for? Players are cheaper, and they are getting increased numbers on.
Phyrr Minmatar The Gosimer and Scarab	Posted - 2007.12.11 03:03:00 - [77] I am running classic and have these problems also. Cost me a phoon in an exploration site, I havent petitioned it. Please give us classic users a fix for this issue. The odds on me being here are rather slim evolutionary speaking, yet in the infinite bounds of probability my being here is a certainty.
Downtym Amarr Middleton and Mercer LLP	Posted - 2007.12.11 04:02:00 - [78] I'm using the classic client without the premium content. Basic System Info: Time of this report: 12/10/2007, 23:08:47 Operating System: Windows 2000 Professional (5.0, Build 2195) Service Pack 4 Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: System manufacturer System Model: System name BIOS: Default System BIOS Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+, ~2.2GHz Memory: 2046MB RAM Page File: 687MB used, 2741MB available Windows Dir: C:\WINNT DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904) DX Setup Parameters: Not found Card name: Sapphire RADEON X700 PRO 256MB Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc. Chip type: RADEON X700 PRO (0x5E4B) DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz) Display Memory: 256.0 MB ----------------------------------------- The issue, as far as I can tell, is that a memory leak exists where memory is not being reclaimed after a jump through a stargate. I tested warping around inside of 1 system - I made a circuit and warped around all the planets, starbases, and moons. The memory stayed fairly consistent while testing this. Then, I set a 30 jump path through Empire and alt-tabbed out to watch the memory while autopiloting. Each jump seems to add another 10MB to 30MB to the memory footprint of ExeFile.exe. From anecdotal evidence, it seems that the amount of memory used is related to the level of activity in the system. I'm going to head out to Jita to see if this is true. If you need any other information about my system configuration, I would be glad to provide it. Thanks.
Seaborgium	Posted - 2007.12.11 05:34:00 - [79] I've got a similar problem in that exiting the game cause my computer to lock up for several minutes, and refuses to exit the EVE client, even using the task manager. Non premium client GEforce FX 5700 AMD Sempron 3300+(2.01 GHZ) Socket 754 64-Bit 1 GB of ram No idea what is causing it, was never a problem before the patch.
Smakko Ad Astra Vexillum Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.12.11 07:42:00 - [80] I run 2-3 clients and have been doing pretty well. Athlon 4600+, 2G ram, ATI 1950XTX gpu. 1 client in premium mode, at 1280x1024, and 2 more clients in classic mode, at 1024x768. All three clients are running with eve voice disabled, and cache set to low. 3 Premium clients would choke pretty bad, but right now I have two copies of Eve installed, with the second running with the "/end /LUA:off". The second copy runs in classic mode. I noticed that even with the cache running in low, the memory will gradually creep up to around the 600-700MB mark, per image, according to Task Manager. These clients are all running in windowed mode. If I minimize one of the clients, the usage drops down immediately to about 60-90MB. It will creep up to about 200MB, then make it's way slowly up, over the course of an hour or two. If I just refresh the client by minimizing the window occasionally, it seems that things stay relatively stable. If I don't, I'm viable to watch my entire computer lock up hard, no BSOD, it just goes blackscreen and dies. Usually the client exits by throwing up an exception and asking me if I want to run my debugger. It seems that the new client is pretty good at giving up unused memory when you minimize it, but it doesn't do it automatically. YMMV.

Robert0288 Caldari g guild	Posted - 2007.12.11 07:52:00 - [81] Edited by: Robert0288 on 11/12/2007 07:55:30 Originally by: Lord DerekSegan Please fix this! My machine CAN run this game -- I get over 120 Frames a Second until this memory leak breaks it. Yeah I agree at this moment eve is using around 852mb of ram and is still climbing while i'm sitting in the staition. Good thing i have lots of extra :) A) Switch the game to Windowed mode then back to full screen. That hasn't helped me any
AntonioBanderas Empirius Enigmus Navy	Posted - 2007.12.11 09:02:00 - [82] Edited by: AntonioBanderas on 11/12/2007 09:05:06 on HIGH eve chugs well over 600MB of my memory. you, ccp, fail. (and i wont' talk about varioud bugs and freezes and lockups here.) You remind me of Microsoft. You are the only two people who can actually afford to release unfinished product and polish it 'on the fly'. Why? How? Because your users don't have any alternatives. Now think about it. Every patch, same thing. Patch -> instability -> week or so of additional patching -> peace.
Hugh Ruka Caldari Exploratio et Industria Morispatia	Posted - 2007.12.11 12:22:00 - [83] I seem to be running into this too. I have 1GB RAM on my home PC. Classic client. I set the cache size to 0. After a few missions I have to close the game as it literaly freezes and causes system to swap aggresively. page file usage drops by 500MB when I close the game. This is unacceptable. I was even considering upgrading to 2GB RAM, but this is the Classic client, so I do not expect it to have any problems where the pre-trinity client ran for hours (well except network problems) without a hicup. Originally by: Aravel Thon Originally by: Nith Batoxxx Hi my alt just leanred to fly the ferox............... I am so so terribly sorry...
Max TheRock DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.11 14:25:00 - [84] Originally by: Gee'Kin Same here with 2 clients. Random lockups / freezing and hickups. AMd 64 dual 5200+ 2 gig X1950 . cant even put my finger on the problem as i tried even de lowest settings. I do notice this client isnt really tweaked for the moment. bu What the hell .. hopefully there will be a nice one soon. . I have the same problem with windows XP, premium content, ATI 1650, and 2 clients running. First the screen/mouse freezes, then I got a blue screen saying that the gpu was running an infinite loop. I upgraded the ATI driver and now I get a popup from ATI saying that the card is frozen and it resets it. This is a good time to close the client since after this, it starts to freeze more frequently. The problem seems to be happening when one of the account jumps a gate, or dock. I haven't encountered the problem while running classic. For those who have this problem and want to run multiple clients, maybe run classic until this gets fixed
MrTripps Gallente	Posted - 2007.12.11 16:38:00 - [85] In general it seems that the new client uses about 60% more memory then the classic client pre-patch. It easily gets to the 800-900 MB level on the high setting. No big deal. You should have at least 2GB in a gaming rig. The new premium does seem to be less stable. Three times now I've had the Eve .exe crash on the trinity.dll one of which rebooted the whole system. It may just be that the new client is less forgiving for occasionally funky hardware. "Least I got chicken." - Leroy Jenkins
Trishan Green Men Incorporated	Posted - 2007.12.11 17:06:00 - [86] Originally by: MrTripps In general it seems that the new client uses about 60% more memory then the classic client pre-patch. It easily gets to the 800-900 MB level on the high setting. No big deal. You should have at least 2GB in a gaming rig. The new premium does seem to be less stable. Three times now I've had the Eve .exe crash on the trinity.dll one of which rebooted the whole system. It may just be that the new client is less forgiving for occasionally funky hardware. No it should not. 2GB is an awful lot. It's called scalability and lod. Eve feeds you the whole thing and tells you to eat every single pea from your vegetables and then lick the plate.
Velda Chulai	Posted - 2007.12.11 17:18:00 - [87] 32-bit applications, such as EVE Online, are limited to addressing a total of 4GB of RAM. Windows is structured so that by default, only 2 GBs of user mode memory is available. The remaining 2 GB are reserved for Kernel-mode memory. In theory, you can increase the user-mode memory at the expense of Kernel mode memory by using the /3GB switch in the boot.ini file. In practice, this is a bad idea for a few reasons: Firstly, some poorly developed device drivers assume that the entire 2GB area is available and may hang your computer. Some applications may also not be aware of the extra gigabyte of user-mode memory, and won't use it anyway (I'm not a developer, but I believe that it's just a compiler switch). Windows 64-bit systems deal with 32-bit Windows applications differently. First, if they are not large address aware, they are still limited to 2 GB. If they are large address aware, then it is possible for them to use 4 GB (as opposed to the maximum of 3GBs under a Windows 32-bit system with /3gb set). In each of these cases, this address space is virtualized. You could have 200 applications with 1GB each paged out on a computer with 128MB of physical RAM, and it's even possible for this to run well (if the applications aren't demanding much of this memory back). For us, it means that EVE can't use more than 2 GB of memory. Did I miss anything?
Downtym Amarr Middleton and Mercer LLP	Posted - 2007.12.11 18:18:00 - [88] Edited by: Downtym on 11/12/2007 18:18:24 Originally by: Velda Chulai In each of these cases, this address space is virtualized. You could have 200 applications with 1GB each paged out on a computer with 128MB of physical RAM, and it's even possible for this to run well (if the applications aren't demanding much of this memory back). For us, it means that EVE can't use more than 2 GB of memory. Did I miss anything? Yes. The discipline, time, and skill required to code any of the 200 applications correctly is beyond most corporate budgets for a video game. Governments (and governmental entities) could probably afford the extravagance of Getting it Right(tm), but most people on a budget just need to Get it Done(tm) even if it has a few warts or is not the best software ever written.
Velda Chulai	Posted - 2007.12.11 18:55:00 - [89] Originally by: Downtym Edited by: Downtym on 11/12/2007 18:18:24 Originally by: Velda Chulai In each of these cases, this address space is virtualized. You could have 200 applications with 1GB each paged out on a computer with 128MB of physical RAM, and it's even possible for this to run well (if the applications aren't demanding much of this memory back). For us, it means that EVE can't use more than 2 GB of memory. Did I miss anything? Yes. The discipline, time, and skill required to code any of the 200 applications correctly is beyond most corporate budgets for a video game. Governments (and governmental entities) could probably afford the extravagance of Getting it Right(tm), but most people on a budget just need to Get it Done(tm) even if it has a few warts or is not the best software ever written. Excellent point... Too often the work involved outweighs the meager amounts of performance gained for the effort.
AJM NINJA	Posted - 2007.12.11 20:49:00 - [90] Eve is using 1gig + for me atm :) At extreme. Lucky me, I have 4gig ram :P So it should be ok... I guess...

AJM NINJA	Posted - 2007.12.11 22:21:00 - [91] Originally by: AJM NINJA Eve is using 1gig + for me atm :) At extreme. Lucky me, I have 4gig ram :P So it should be ok... I guess... Eve is up to 1.3 gig now :P Where will it stop? Noone knows!
VeNT Minmatar Freelancer Union The Reckoning.	Posted - 2007.12.12 09:22:00 - [92] ok I left it logged in inside a station overnight (my mistake) got down to my PC this morning to a 1.9GB Vmem and 512MB ram use (I've 2gig, cashe set to low) -------------------- Eris; The Greek goddess of Chaos, Discord, Confusion and Things You Know Not Of.
northwesten Amarr Trinity Corporate Services	Posted - 2007.12.12 14:28:00 - [93] ok I going to file a bug report! I have 3 accounts and I cant use them on the same computer I have reduced the grahpics to lowest i can get and turned off the cache and I still rebooting! No errors just reboots! before the trinitry i could run up to 7 accounts if i could. Now i c an run 3. Trinity Corporate Services
Jotan Veer HUN Corp. HUN Reloaded	Posted - 2007.12.12 21:38:00 - [94] Turning off cache size does NOT help in case of a POS siege. Two premium clients pretty much consumed all my memory (2GB physical then some virtual) even with everything turned off (effects etc). HUN Corp. recruitment info (Hungarian players only)
Nyphur Pillowsoft Total Comfort	Posted - 2007.12.13 01:17:00 - [95] I'm getting memory leaks on the normal version. Eve-Tanking.com - We're sorry, something happened.
northwesten Amarr Trinity Corporate Services	Posted - 2007.12.13 02:56:00 - [96] just hope there a hot fixs on its way very soon! as I have 3 accounts and not doing much with them Trinity Corporate Services
Qorrin Path of Light R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.12.14 11:27:00 - [97] just a little annoying this mem leak issue... ..I'm bored.. eve = not bored you can see my point
Hieronim Wilde Amarr Decapsuleers Unlimited	Posted - 2007.12.14 13:16:00 - [98] Hi, P4P800-SE \| Pentium 4 @ 2.8Ghz \| 1.5 Go RAM \| nVidia 6800GS agp \| Drivers 163.75 \| Windows XP SP2 \| 1680x1050 As mentionned before, I'm using the Classic content with an fps average of 40-60 in stations; 30-45 outside station; 40-50 in warp; 30-40 in gates. I though Premium wouldn't be the best fitt for my PC. But because I wanted to try again Pemium content, I put my Cache at Extreme, reset Cache, disabled AA & Aniso (via Rivatuner) but all effects On (exept trails) and the result is better than the Classic content option. I got 30-45 in stations (I'm on my way to uncheck Load Station Environment in order to be full smooth with windows in station); 40-50 outside station; 50-80 in warp; 40-50 in gates. So I get minimum +5 fps everywhere and in warp it's going to a +30 fps with Premium! Well I guess, my Graphic Card and my processor are going well, they work fine each other. In an other way, I think I have the same problem mentionned above : some kind of memory leaks and also after half an hour playing, my fps near gates and stations and in missions dramatically false to 10-25 fps. When it happens, sometimes it revert back to 50fps (exept in Deadspace) when I dock-undock from station. It's like a leak memory or cache problem I dunno if it happens to other people the same way. I got the same problem in Classic content.
Fitz VonHeise The New Order. United Connection's	Posted - 2007.12.14 15:40:00 - [99] Originally by: Tanis. Hit esc and go to the "Display & Graphics" Under the "Graphic Content Settings" header set "Cache Size" to "low" or "off". I do not see Cache Size in this location. (Standard graphics) Where is it... why do I not see it? (One other person also mentioned not seeing it)
Ceanthar Cerbera Minmatar Lone Gunmen	Posted - 2007.12.15 11:29:00 - [100] Edited by: Ceanthar Cerbera on 15/12/2007 11:29:34 I also have similar problems. I posted in a separate thread but ill post here also. Its fine right after ive started the game but after doing a couple of jumps trough some systems the fps goes down and the computer starts becoming sluggish, constantly accessing the hdd. A look in windows "Task Manager" and "Processes" it says eve is using around 400mb of ram but checking the "Performance" it tells me the system is using 1-1.6 gb of page file. Not running any other applications using the ram I conclude its eve eating the resources. Running two clients is impossible while I used to be able to run two clients without problem and 3 with a bit of struggle. I only have 1gb of ram and basically all (5mb unused) of it gets used when Im running eve meaning i have more than 500mb reading from hdd pagefile.. System is x2 4200+, 1gb ram, x1650xt. Omega drivers, XP. Premium graphics and played in window mode. Shadow setting is off and HDR likewise. Ive tried running the cache in low, normal, high and off. Doesnt seem to make much difference. My main concern is the fact that eve shows as using 400mb memory at most but the performance is showing as system memory being used up completely. In fact after a while the performance window show as using 1.4gb of memory while eve itself shows as using 75mb wich is highly unusual.. I just reproduced the error to produce a log file. Running two clients they both show as using around 50mb memory (under processes) but the "performance" is showing that im using a total of 1.8gb system memory. All of my 1gb ram is being used. The question still is why does the exefile show as using so little memory (normaly it used around 150-400mb) while basically ALL the system resources are being used? And why does the problem start after a while? It seems the session changes are whats causing the problem however. The error message I get when closing the client at this point reads(translated from swedish) "instruction on 0x020d7b2f refered to memory 0x00000000. Action could not be made. Memory could not be "read"." edit: and by the way the cache setting have no change on this problem. off, low, normal. it all seem to produce the same effect. ----------------------------------------- For the liberation and safety of the Matari people!

Maddiganed	Posted - 2007.12.15 11:40:00 - [101] Same problem here, the 15th december :-(( Game end up to a freeze. Only solution is to alt tab and close the game.. Really bored..
Jonny JoJo Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2007.12.15 13:34:00 - [102] Originally by: northwesten ok I going to file a bug report! I have 3 accounts and I cant use them on the same computer I have reduced the grahpics to lowest i can get and turned off the cache and I still rebooting! No errors just reboots! before the trinitry i could run up to 7 accounts if i could. Now i c an run 3. trinity Premium uses more graphics power than the Classic. If you were using 7 Classic, and now find the computer reboots with just 3 premium, I thinmk it may be your graphics card overheating and a failsafe switching rebooting your machine. I had some machines that would only reboot when playing intensive graphical games in hot weather. Turning the air conditioning on and reboots stop But I think the problem is your graphics card overheating. Perhaps the fan is dirty on it Refresh to see next Real Life CCP sig(16 total)
northwesten Amarr Trinity Corporate Services	Posted - 2007.12.16 21:27:00 - [103] Originally by: Jonny JoJo Originally by: northwesten ok I going to file a bug report! I have 3 accounts and I cant use them on the same computer I have reduced the grahpics to lowest i can get and turned off the cache and I still rebooting! No errors just reboots! before the trinitry i could run up to 7 accounts if i could. Now i c an run 3. trinity Premium uses more graphics power than the Classic. If you were using 7 Classic, and now find the computer reboots with just 3 premium, I thinmk it may be your graphics card overheating and a failsafe switching rebooting your machine. I had some machines that would only reboot when playing intensive graphical games in hot weather. Turning the air conditioning on and reboots stop But I think the problem is your graphics card overheating. Perhaps the fan is dirty on it This was before Trinity by the way i could run 7 accounts. Now after trinity 3 classic on lowest settings is rebooting. Yy card fine its the EVE is the problem because its a memory leak! Even cache is off! Trinity Corporate Services
Ceanthar Cerbera Minmatar Lone Gunmen	Posted - 2007.12.17 18:58:00 - [104] Edited by: Ceanthar Cerbera on 17/12/2007 19:01:56 setting the cache to "off" doesnt change anything. Eve still eats a lot of memory. edit: with cache set to off I can have one client using up to 1.7gb of the page file and of that 1gb is physical RAM. When the RAM is used the computer turns very sluggish and starts to permanently read from the HDD. Using two clients Ive manage to reach 1.9gb of page file but this seems to be the limit. Havent tried increasing my page file to see if eve use even more. Whats interesting is that the exefile itself only shows as using as low as 50mb of memory when this happens. Can it be that eve dont release memory after its used, forcing the app to use less and less memory. But since the memory is still used the systems comes to its knees, unable to clear memory. Im not very skilled in these matters but it sound like the classical example of a memory leak does it not?!? ----------------------------------------- For the liberation and safety of the Matari people!
Downtym Amarr Middleton and Mercer LLP	Posted - 2007.12.17 23:12:00 - [105] I recently tried the following: 1. Uninstalled EVE. 2. Downloaded the Premium Client. 3. Updated my video and sound drivers. 4. Reinstalled EVE. 5. Set the cache setting to 0. Right now EVE seems to be working better - at least it doesn't lock up and didn't slow down after hours of playing this weekend. I'll look at the memory foot print later, just sort of happy things went back to status quo. =)
northwesten Amarr Trinity Corporate Services	Posted - 2007.12.18 02:58:00 - [106] Originally by: Downtym I recently tried the following: 1. Uninstalled EVE. 2. Downloaded the Premium Client. 3. Updated my video and sound drivers. 4. Reinstalled EVE. 5. Set the cache setting to 0. Right now EVE seems to be working better - at least it doesn't lock up and didn't slow down after hours of playing this weekend. I'll look at the memory foot print later, just sort of happy things went back to status quo. =) I done this but still I have memory leaks! just have to wait out on the patch note Trinity Corporate Services
Terminus adacai Caldari	Posted - 2007.12.18 04:24:00 - [107] I run 4 toons on my same pc, or I did before Trinity. I am lucky to get 3 going, and even then, I have BSOD, client crashes, DCT's, etc. I am using the classic content, doesn't matter, I have a RAM manager that monitors my memory and I see that Eve has a memory leak. I can cut everything off but Eve and watch available memory drop as time goes on. Usually within 15 minutes of 2 clients on, I get a BSOD and am forced to reboot. Tonight I got a Kernel dump. I am about fed up, as I mine for income, and haven't been able to since the patch. I love the game, but after all the reports in forums, I have to seriously ask, WTF!? Did you guys test this release on cloned computers? I know they will work it out sooner or later, but damn this is frustrating... All I have done lately is skill train... Opinions reflected on my posts are just that, my opinions. They do not reflect views held by my corp or alliance.
Soratah Amarr The Aegis Militia Aegis Militia	Posted - 2007.12.18 09:43:00 - [108] Originally by: peroxide chase Edited by: peroxide chase on 06/12/2007 15:58:42 is there any way to ensure eve is loaded 100% into ram ? i have 8gb of ram on my workstation with a xeon 3230 and would like to be as lag free as posible, can a INI file be edited to go into uber extreme mode ? also i get lag when pulling in fighters (1/2-1/4 second mini freezes for each fighter) Yes there is, there are quite a few programmes out their can can create RAM drives. (literally taking system memory and running it like it was a conventional HDD.) You would create the drive, install the game direct and copy your files over into the directory. Ensure that you use some of the facilities to create a disc image of that RAM drive so you dont have to do a fresh install whenever you turn the machine off and on again.
Acedias	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:57:00 - [109] Classic client running here, gig of ram and the same problem. CCP flatly denied my petition after it cost me a vaga with the game freezing for 2 minutes leaving me to end game process, has never happened like this pre trinity. Hell an emergency warpout would have worked nicely, ah well=) Obviously it isn't a real issue. The freezes continue..
northwesten Amarr Trinity Corporate Services	Posted - 2007.12.18 17:30:00 - [110] Originally by: Acedias Classic client running here, gig of ram and the same problem. CCP flatly denied my petition after it cost me a vaga with the game freezing for 2 minutes leaving me to end game process, has never happened like this pre trinity. Hell an emergency warpout would have worked nicely, ah well=) Obviously it isn't a real issue. The freezes continue.. I tell them to stick there reply where it doesn't shine if its saying it was ok on there end. There Software unreliable so they cant say crap! I am really thinking about leaving EVE. Bigger the game gets the worse the service it is. Oh and i been play since 04 I love the game but dont like how they been handling this! Even EA would reply to all this! Tho i seen what happnes after this next patch! Trinity Corporate Services

northwesten Amarr Trinity Corporate Services	Posted - 2007.12.19 13:07:00 - [111] anyone experiencing Memory leak still after the patch? I haven't tried it as i busy DL priates of the burning sea :) Trinity Corporate Services
Sarakan Selim	Posted - 2007.12.19 18:37:00 - [112] i got a core duo pc with radeon x 1950 pro. I got the patch and i got the blue screen after 5 mins i log my 2 toons in. So its not fixed while a corp mate has a p4 with 2 cards and is doing fine.
NoNamium	Posted - 2007.12.20 13:48:00 - [113] I'm experiencing memory-leakage. I'm running 3 clients on a 8800 GTX-card, 2GB dual ram, Quad core. I've set the cache to low and the clients start out fine with less than half memory usage, but after 5 hours the memory is used up. - NoNamium
bang SPLAT	Posted - 2007.12.20 15:32:00 - [114] Having major memory probs too, it starts up fine but slowly chews through all the memory i have, tried everything i know to get around this, everything is either off or lowest possible setting but nothing works, before trinity everything worked fine but now its just annoying i run 2 clients or i should say i used to run 2 clients but now i cannot, this is gamebreaking and needs to be fixed like yesterday
Mogubu Captain Morgan Society Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.21 09:10:00 - [115] Processor running @ 100%, HDD working overtime, computer quite a bit sluggish. Never a problem to run 2 or even 3 clients before patch, now I can't even run one+IE/opera/whatever. --- Buy mjolnir javelins or rage infernos? Eve-mail me!
FT Diomedes Gallente Ductus Exemplo	Posted - 2007.12.21 14:51:00 - [116] I hope this gets fixed, quickly. So far it's cost me untold numbers of drones and at my friend lost a Hulk when my client crashed and the 3 Patriarch spawn I was tanking aggroed on him. ------------ Improvize. Adapt. Overcome.
dakari	Posted - 2007.12.21 15:56:00 - [117] Originally by: Sharless Edited by: Sharless on 06/12/2007 14:23:24 My comp just freezzes completely. I cant do anything but hard-reset. A single account however, runs smooth and brilliant - no probs whatsoever I have: Pentium 4 3.08 Ghz 1024 RAM x1600 pro Sapphire RAdeon with 256mb Got the shadows all off and Cache and off as well. WHat is freezing me up? Turn off premium graphics and lower your hardware acceleration down 3 notches from full. The pinheads who blame the card or driver are ignorant rejects.It's eve and how the graphics system works in the game, it's always been Eve and always will be Eve it's just a matter of adjusting your computer and hardware down to it's spec's.
T'Amber anomandaris demaleon Vaccaei Imperial	Posted - 2007.12.23 17:38:00 - [118] Please note that if you have 32bit windows in 90% cased your windows will only see upto 3.2Gigs off ram. Anymore that this and your memory is probably being wasted. You can search on google for information regarding this if this affects you as I don't have time to list a link. a n o m a n d a r i s . d e m a l e o n
SPQRMocton Minmatar Calmarr Technologies	Posted - 2007.12.27 10:17:00 - [119] interesting i noticed that when i had task manager open and watched the memory action that task manager eventually was using 99% cpu ,anyone else getting this happening ? If You work to insure Loyalty points With a Corp be sure you can spend them someday
northwesten Amarr Trinity Corporate Services	Posted - 2007.12.27 19:48:00 - [120] Originally by: SPQRMocton interesting i noticed that when i had task manager open and watched the memory action that task manager eventually was using 99% cpu ,anyone else getting this happening ? that's normal Trinity Corporate Services

Laylah Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.01.02 14:03:00 - [121] Has anyone tried turning off Data Execution prevention for EVE? I did and it resulted in a big performance increase while running 2 clients, the fps nearly doubled - although it still hogs all the memory after a few hours and you have to logout and back in again .... lol (can CCP spell Memory Leak?) :) control panel, system, advanced, performance, settings, data execution prevention, set it to the 2nd option and then add EVE as an exception.
Kwa Kaine eXceed Inc.	Posted - 2008.01.03 02:47:00 - [122] Originally by: Laylah Has anyone tried turning off Data Execution prevention for EVE? Just got me a 20fps increase. \o/
Laylah Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.01.03 12:22:00 - [123] \o/ yay :) Curses upon Microshaft and their crappy software :D lol.
sonofapharmacist Hard Corp Brotherhood Of Steel	Posted - 2008.01.03 21:49:00 - [124] Edited by: sonofapharmacist on 03/01/2008 21:50:12 i'll try this ^^^ when i get home :) on the note of accumulating use of memory, i've found it useful to press esc (to bring up the in game menu stuffs) then close it and that usually clears a good amount of the memory used by that instance of eve. it still sucks that i have to do that now and again though, especially when i'm running two clients, but it works for now.
Jesho Minmatar KDM Corp Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2008.01.04 12:53:00 - [125] Originally by: sonofapharmacist on the note of accumulating use of memory, i've found it useful to press esc (to bring up the in game menu stuffs) then close it and that usually clears a good amount of the memory used by that instance of eve. it still sucks that i have to do that now and again though, especially when i'm running two clients, but it works for now. I've noticed the exact same thing and was going to post about it. It also helps with lag caused by opening the map and most of the time this gives you some fps extra. I think the cache setting should be made more intelligent, for example you shouldn't have to manually specify cache setting like this. Eve should be smart enough to figure this out for itself by looking at for example amount of free ram and number of running eve clients and then choosing a cache size that doesn't eat all of your memory. And it should be dynamic so if you shut down a program or two so you get more memory it can increase the cache if needed and when you start for example another eve client it may be necessary to lower the cache to make all of the clients run as smooth as possible. Maybe make it default to some kind of automatic mode of managing the cache and an option where the user can override it if it doesn't work well.
Andrue Amarr	Posted - 2008.01.08 15:05:00 - [126] Edited by: Andrue on 08/01/2008 15:07:18 Originally by: Laylah \o/ yay :) Curses upon Microshaft and their crappy software :D lol. Actually it's developers in general you should be cursing at. If they (alright then, we) did our jobs properly DEP wouldn't be needed. Unfortunately it is needed and since it is basically second guessing and monitoring execution it is inevitable that it will slow things down. That always happens when someone is breathing down your neck watching every move you make. But I wonder why some people want the memory usage to be low. If you aren't doing anything else with your computer it doesn't matter. Let Eve fill your RAM up. It doesn't in itself slow things down. It's only a problem if some other application needs more RAM. One of the good things about Linux is that at least it leaves things in RAM for as long as it can. MS have finally adopted that strategy with Vista and it's one of the few performance improvements in that OS. -- (Battle hardened industrialist) [Brackley, UK] My budgie can say "ploppy bottom". You have been warned.
I'm RickJames	Posted - 2008.01.09 21:56:00 - [127] Originally by: Ceanthar Cerbera Edited by: Ceanthar Cerbera on 15/12/2007 11:29:34 I also have similar problems. I posted in a separate thread but ill post here also. Its fine right after ive started the game but after doing a couple of jumps trough some systems the fps goes down and the computer starts becoming sluggish, constantly accessing the hdd. A look in windows "Task Manager" and "Processes" it says eve is using around 400mb of ram but checking the "Performance" it tells me the system is using 1-1.6 gb of page file. Not running any other applications using the ram I conclude its eve eating the resources. Running two clients is impossible while I used to be able to run two clients without problem and 3 with a bit of struggle. I only have 1gb of ram and basically all (5mb unused) of it gets used when Im running eve meaning i have more than 500mb reading from hdd pagefile.. I have the same problem, but in addition, eve is forcing my CPU to be working 100% when it is front and causing overheating problems.
I'm RickJames	Posted - 2008.01.10 13:44:00 - [128] Originally by: Tanis. We've been seeing several people reporting that EVE is using too much memory, in some cases upwards of 700mb. If you find that EVE is using too much memory, or your system is running too poorly there is a very simple solution Hit esc and go to the "Display & Graphics" Under the "Graphic Content Settings" header set "Cache Size" to "low" or "off". If you try this and it does not work, please file a bug report so we can investigate (info is in my signature) Edited: Originally by: Grimpak what are the values for each option btw? (considering that off is zero and extreme is "all your mem are belong to us") The settings are as follows: off = 0 Low = 32mb Normal = 128mb High = 256mb Extreme = 512mb Remember that these settings mean that the client will use up to that amount in addition to "normal" memory usage. None of this make any difference. The client's memory expands until it consumes all of my ram and I have performance and heating issues.
GoGo Yubari PAK	Posted - 2008.01.11 02:01:00 - [129] The odd thing about Eve at the moment is that if it is not the active window (ie. you're mouse clicked somewhere else), it takes barely any cpu resources. However, once you click to Eve, even if you aren't doing anything, it hogs it in abundance. PAK is recruiting!
Jesho Minmatar KDM Corp Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2008.01.14 16:22:00 - [130] Originally by: Andrue But I wonder why some people want the memory usage to be low. If you aren't doing anything else with your computer it doesn't matter. Let Eve fill your RAM up. It doesn't in itself slow things down. It's only a problem if some other application needs more RAM. One of the good things about Linux is that at least it leaves things in RAM for as long as it can. MS have finally adopted that strategy with Vista and it's one of the few performance improvements in that OS. I have no problem with eve using a lot of memory if it needs it. But it should adjust it's memory usage (if it can) if you for example run many eve clients. And i wouldn't be surprised if there are memory leaks, probably more than one and my guess is that the map is at least somewhat related to this. At least on my computer opening and closing the settings (ESC 2 times) helps a lot to workaround the problem with the frame rate suddenly dropping for no reason. And when doing this the memory usually goes down a bit. Almost always after opening the f10 map the frame rate goes down, it also happens at other times, like when you travel or use the jump drive on a cap ship.

Draekas Darkwater Moons of Pluto	Posted - 2008.01.18 01:56:00 - [131] Its not so much about it using too much, but that the amount it uses keeps growing as you play. At least for me specifically, if I travel around alot (especially between regions), or do lots of differnet things (mine, mission, ect) the virtual memory footprint of each client can run upto over 800mb. That's with cache size off. If I had to guess, ships and objects are being cashed, regardless of whether you set the cache size or not. So the more you run by, the larger the footprint gets. Eventually I run into paging lag, and I have to restart the clients. =/
Sky Marshal Aeden Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.01.18 18:02:00 - [132] Edited by: Sky Marshal on 18/01/2008 18:03:30 I agree with the last statement, EvE take more memory than before same with Cache set at OFF with the Classic edition... Before Trinity, with 2 client, I had still 250/300M free Ram on my 1Go, now it is not uncommon that I have less that 150M, and have to close one client or software to avoid any swapping. At least, sometimes the memory is free up by itself while playing, to 300 or 500M, but this make EvE consumption totally unpredictable, and hard to be bugreported. Trinity has also a memory video leak, same with a 256Mb card, because I suffer of some d3derr_outofvideomemory problem who generate that I called the "Black Blinking Screen Of the Death" (When happens, screen blink in dark and impossible to kill EvE to retake the control of the computer, I can only reboot or shutdown). Only EvE Online do this, same Crysis and COD 4 never success to do the same error [Bug Report 50337]. _______ / Black Blinking Screen of the Death / Fleet battle more laggy than ever with less ships / Inusual I/O access in dual account mode Trinity This universe of bugs... is reborn
Trishan Green Men Incorporated	Posted - 2008.01.26 01:48:00 - [133] Originally by: Sky Marshal Edited by: Sky Marshal on 18/01/2008 18:08:54 I agree with the last statement, EvE take more memory than before same with Cache set at OFF with the Classic edition... Before Trinity, with 2 client, I had still 250/300M free Ram on my 1Go, now it is not uncommon that I have less that 150M, and have to close one client or software to avoid any After having a slight panic attack due screen freezing at the worst moment for what seemed eternal seconds I looked at memory usage and hey, whats that, over 1GB used? On cache on low? I'd like to know what settings to use because this ends up eating memory like crazy.... and yes, I do consider a system with 768M far enough for a game like eve.
Trebormints	Posted - 2008.02.09 19:07:00 - [134] Edited by: Trebormints on 09/02/2008 19:09:26 I do not have a problem with memory usage as I have 4gigs and so have loads spare BUT what I do have is a problem with CPU usage, one account uses about 50% (when in the background and up to 80% in the foreground) and running both accounts means that my CPU is between 80% and 100% all the time Any ideas how to get the CPU down if at all possible ??? as this seems rather excessive EVGA 122-CK-NF68-AR Intel [email protected] Video Asus EN8800GTX Western Digital Caviar RE 320 Go * 2 raid 0 G-Skill F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ (2GB x 2) Antec Truepower Quattro 850 power supply Vista Enterprise 64bit Azuntech X-Fi Prelude sound card


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