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Viceroy Bolloxim Caldari Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.12.07 10:30:00 - [1] I've had this three times now, not a CTD but a full on hose my computer freeze and lock up.. IE a directX graphics crash of megatastic proportions. It appears to always happen in a warp situation, its most definitely graphical related. I am wondering if we can have the old render client back as an option? even without new content the renderer was misbehaving. anyway I'm off to see if theres a dec dx driver just incase it fixes it.. ccp, love you guys, but damn it you just ruined a great stability period. pretty much all CTDs were thing of the past, now BANG! its even worse. -bollo Digital - Expressed in numerical form, especially for use by a computer. Fury - the property of being wild or turbulent; "the storm's violence"
Odinsdottir Minmatar Vermin. Nihil-Obstat	Posted - 2007.12.07 11:10:00 - [2] Had those too, with premium enabled. Client runs fine, with premium contents on, decent FPS. Funny thing is, it only happens on my laptop. Desktop is fine. Laptop: GF Go 7900GS Core2duo T5500 2GB RAM Desktop: AMD64 3800 Geforce 7900GT 1GB RAM.
rylanta	Posted - 2007.12.07 11:13:00 - [3] Just had this, played for appx 1 hour 20 mins ok. Exit station, select warp gate, initiate warp and system freezes then pc reboots.
Alitha Maru Minmatar Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2007.12.07 11:15:00 - [4] Just to be sure, disable sound completely and see if that has any effect. There's been some problems earlier with for example RealTek onboard sound and lock-ups/bluescreens/reboots.
Gekkoh Caldari	Posted - 2007.12.07 11:17:00 - [5] I had one CTD shortly after the patch when I alt-tabbed just as I jumped into another system, but other than that it's been okay even with multi-clients with sound turned on (that used to always cause a blue screen before) I'm on a core 2 nVidia 8800GTX system, so maybe you're using different hardware/drivers. Could it be that your system is overheating? Try blowing a desk fan into the open side and see if it still happens.
Helldrek Demonstar Section Five	Posted - 2007.12.07 11:18:00 - [6] this happened to me once yesterday after patching with graphics content. ---
Odinsdottir Minmatar Vermin. Nihil-Obstat	Posted - 2007.12.07 11:18:00 - [7] Sounds was disabled, what do you take me for?
Mecinia Lua Galactic Express Frontier Trade League	Posted - 2007.12.07 11:18:00 - [8] I had 2 of these prior to the patch in the week leading up to it. I've not been on since patch yet due to my slow connection I should be on later today and then I can report :). Thoughts expressed are mine and mine alone. They do not necessarily reflect my alliances thoughts.
Huldradans Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.12.07 11:18:00 - [9] Is it possible that your graphics card might be overheating? If you're running an ATi card, run ATiTrayTools and use the OSD to display gfx temps, monitor this during gameplay and make sure it's not running over the gfx card temperature thresh hold. - ♮ EVESOURCE.COM: Teamspeak, forum & killboard hosting services -
Odinsdottir Minmatar Vermin. Nihil-Obstat	Posted - 2007.12.07 11:29:00 - [10] Unlikely. I've played more demanding games on my laptop without a problem. Also, it has temperature management, throttling the fans depending on temperature, and sometimes the fans switch off. Besides, I'd expect artifacts before the freeze if the GFX card overheated.

Bimjo Caldari SKULLDOGS	Posted - 2007.12.07 11:35:00 - [11] Guys, not a single one of you stated which operating system you use post them so we can see if there is or isn't a pattern Reason I say so is that a friend of mine has the same problem and he is using Vista 64 and I have pretty much the same setup as him(hardware) and I have Vista 32 and I am ok. He is going back to XP Pro. Q6600,8800 Ultra SLI, Vista 32, 4Gig RAM , G15 , TripleHead2Go, Raptor X
Odinsdottir Minmatar Vermin. Nihil-Obstat	Posted - 2007.12.07 11:47:00 - [12] Edited by: Odinsdottir on 07/12/2007 11:47:47 Oops... Valid point. Completely forgot. Desktop XP home. Laptop: Vista home premium.(32 bit) (the one with the freezes).
Bimjo Caldari SKULLDOGS	Posted - 2007.12.07 11:49:00 - [13] Edited by: Bimjo on 07/12/2007 11:49:11 nvm, just saw you said 32 Q6600,8800 Ultra SLI, Vista 32, 4Gig RAM , G15 , TripleHead2Go, Raptor X
Raem Civrie Sons of Enelaise Enelaise	Posted - 2007.12.07 11:53:00 - [14] Edited by: Raem Civrie on 07/12/2007 11:56:33 I get this as well (on my laptop). Hard crashes were the video driver locks up (then recovers, Vista's way of apologizing for everything else). Vista Business (32bit) Core2Do t5470 GF8600M GT 2G RAM So far this seems to be a tendency of the nVidia drivers on Windows Vista, seeing as most people posting here that gave up both OS and GPU had this combination. Hell, the damn driver sometimes locks up on all of it's own. ---
Balaurah	Posted - 2007.12.07 11:53:00 - [15] Edited by: Balaurah on 07/12/2007 11:54:24 had it happen once, vista (ultimate ver)64 , 8800gt. presumed it was soemthign to do with computer not liking fullscreen eve in main monitor + a movie in fullscreen in the other monitor, but maybe not. happened at a roid belt, so not exactly a graphically intense situation forgot the windows version
Shevar Minmatar A.W.M Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.12.07 11:56:00 - [16] Eve ctd's (not full system crashes) every 10 to 30 minutes for me . Anyways I'm using an 8600gts on vista prof 32 bit. Guess I'll run the log server in the weekend and submit a bug report... Strange though on sisi I had no issues with ctd's. --- -The only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs
Unruffled Equanimity LoneStar Industries Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2007.12.07 11:58:00 - [17] XPS 1710 with Vista home premium (32 bit)
Huldradans Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.12.07 12:00:00 - [18] Originally by: Odinsdottir Unlikely. I've played more demanding games on my laptop without a problem. Also, it has temperature management, throttling the fans depending on temperature, and sometimes the fans switch off. Besides, I'd expect artifacts before the freeze if the GFX card overheated. I understand, this issue has happened to me too, and I've isolated it down to my graphics card overheating. While this rarely ever happens in anything else, it has happened quite frequently with Trinity. - ♮ EVESOURCE.COM: Teamspeak, forum & killboard hosting services -
Ishikari Gallente Ishikari Industries	Posted - 2007.12.07 12:02:00 - [19] The only crash I have gotten is on exiting eve, sometimes it will crash and give me the "send this error to microsoft" window. -------------------------- Ishikari Industries Researchers of ship BPO's and BPC's
DrAtomic Atomic Heroes Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.07 12:02:00 - [20] Originally by: Unruffled Equanimity XPS 1710 with Vista home premium (32 bit) Which card.... GO 7900 GS, Go 7900 GTX or GO 7950 GTX? Also did you update your gfx drivers to the latest one available from your manufacturer? ----------------------------------------------- iskies + my wallet = <3 Originally by: CCP Sharkbait we are screwed.

Yggdrassil STK Scientific Black-Out	Posted - 2007.12.07 12:03:00 - [21] Edited by: Yggdrassil on 07/12/2007 12:04:53 I had this too one time. I strongly suspect overheating to be the problem. After the patch, the fan on my graphic card works "overtime" - as in that I can hear the fan on it going to max speed. It DID happen when I initiated warp though - so not sure. Edit: XP pro, 6800GT graphic card, 2gb ram, running 2 clients at separate installs with premium/hdr activated on one, premium but no hdr on the other. Yggdrassil
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War	Posted - 2007.12.07 12:06:00 - [22] Edited by: Plutoinum on 07/12/2007 12:07:10 Originally by: Viceroy Bolloxim I've had this three times now, not a CTD but a full on hose my computer freeze and lock up.. IE a directX graphics crash of megatastic proportions. It appears to always happen in a warp situation, its most definitely graphical related. I am wondering if we can have the old render client back as an option? even without new content the renderer was misbehaving. anyway I'm off to see if theres a dec dx driver just incase it fixes it.. ccp, love you guys, but damn it you just ruined a great stability period. pretty much all CTDs were thing of the past, now BANG! its even worse. -bollo I had that 2 times with my Geforce 8600GT. Happened in fullscreen mode. Don't remember at the moment, if it was after session change like undocking or after alt-tabbing back to the game. Mouse pointer was still there, screen black, computer didn't react to anything anymore. The keyboard was dead, like alt+f4, control-q, alt+ctrl+del didn't work. Needed to push the reset-button.
Huldradans Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.12.07 12:07:00 - [23] Edited by: Huldradans on 07/12/2007 12:08:12 I'm running a 512mb Radeon 2600XT with 2GB RAM, like I said I've isolated it to the graphics card temperatures, my CPU cores' temperatures are optimal. - ♮ EVESOURCE.COM: Teamspeak, forum & killboard hosting services -
rinkanu Malicious Intentions The Church.	Posted - 2007.12.07 12:09:00 - [24] I had my computer shut lock up/shutdown twice now. Both times were when I enabled the premium graphics and initated warp. My computer has no problem running the premium graphics....even 2 sessions at a time is playable. But I've switched premium graphics off and have had no problems since. I always play with audio disabled so that is not the issue. I'll try premiums again after a patch maybe. I like the graphics but it's not worth the risk of a crash in 0.0
Shevar Minmatar A.W.M Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.12.07 12:09:00 - [25] Originally by: Plutoinum Edited by: Plutoinum on 07/12/2007 12:07:10 Originally by: Viceroy Bolloxim I've had this three times now, not a CTD but a full on hose my computer freeze and lock up.. IE a directX graphics crash of megatastic proportions. It appears to always happen in a warp situation, its most definitely graphical related. I am wondering if we can have the old render client back as an option? even without new content the renderer was misbehaving. anyway I'm off to see if theres a dec dx driver just incase it fixes it.. ccp, love you guys, but damn it you just ruined a great stability period. pretty much all CTDs were thing of the past, now BANG! its even worse. -bollo I had that 2 times with my Geforce 8600GT. Happened in fullscreen mode. Don't remember at the moment, if it was after session change like undocking or after alt-tabbing back to the game. Mouse pointer was still there, screen black, computer didn't react to anything anymore. The keyboard was dead, like alt+f4, control-q, alt+ctrl+del didn't work. Needed to push the reset-button. I suspect that if you run in windowed mode instead of full screen that you will get a ctd instead of an unresponsive system. --- -The only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs
Yggdrassil STK Scientific Black-Out	Posted - 2007.12.07 12:13:00 - [26] Originally by: Shevar Originally by: Plutoinum Edited by: Plutoinum on 07/12/2007 12:07:10 Originally by: Viceroy Bolloxim I've had this three times now, not a CTD but a full on hose my computer freeze and lock up.. IE a directX graphics crash of megatastic proportions. It appears to always happen in a warp situation, its most definitely graphical related. I am wondering if we can have the old render client back as an option? even without new content the renderer was misbehaving. anyway I'm off to see if theres a dec dx driver just incase it fixes it.. ccp, love you guys, but damn it you just ruined a great stability period. pretty much all CTDs were thing of the past, now BANG! its even worse. -bollo I had that 2 times with my Geforce 8600GT. Happened in fullscreen mode. Don't remember at the moment, if it was after session change like undocking or after alt-tabbing back to the game. Mouse pointer was still there, screen black, computer didn't react to anything anymore. The keyboard was dead, like alt+f4, control-q, alt+ctrl+del didn't work. Needed to push the reset-button. I suspect that if you run in windowed mode instead of full screen that you will get a ctd instead of an unresponsive system. My cpu locked up while I had both clients in window mode: Total lockdown, no mouse pointer, no keyboard - no nothing. Yggdrassil
Grez Minmatar e X i l e Atrum Tempestas Foedus	Posted - 2007.12.07 12:13:00 - [27] Edited by: Grez on 07/12/2007 12:15:27 Could be due to heat build up. Heat can cause BSOD's to happen because a certain operation didn't get carried out as expected and the system can't recover. On most XP and Vista installs, the system is set to reboot automatically in the case of a BSOD, without displaying the actual screen. Due to the fact that all the graphical shunt was moved over to the GPU and is no-longer handled by the CPU, I would recommend checking your graphics card temps as the first step to solving this. The fact that most of you are using Vista AND a Nvidia graphics card, means that it's possibly an issue with the Nvidia driver set. Post some more system details like graphics card make and manu, as well as drivers used and the date they were released. --- Have a rawr on me.
Lazuran Gallente Time And ISK Sink Corporation	Posted - 2007.12.07 12:19:00 - [28] I haven't had one (but I didn't play much). Try upgrading to the latest DirectX release, the latest drivers for your graphics card and do not overclock your graphics card. "...been designed for one purpose and one purpose only. Imagine a handful of repair drones pouring from the carebear's mouth. Now imagine they have um, nothing." -Unknown Hel redesigner (2007)
Unruffled Equanimity LoneStar Industries Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2007.12.07 12:26:00 - [29] Originally by: DrAtomic Originally by: Unruffled Equanimity XPS 1710 with Vista home premium (32 bit) Which card.... GO 7900 GS, Go 7900 GTX or GO 7950 GTX? Also did you update your gfx drivers to the latest one available from your manufacturer? 7950 GTX with latest Dell drivers. I already thought about using a modified inf File and using a newer driver.
Unruffled Equanimity LoneStar Industries Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2007.12.07 13:01:00 - [30] Edited by: Unruffled Equanimity on 07/12/2007 13:02:40 Originally by: NeoTheo Originally by: Unruffled Equanimity Edited by: Unruffled Equanimity on 07/12/2007 12:42:05 Originally by: DrAtomic Originally by: Unruffled Equanimity XPS 1710 with Vista home premium (32 bit) Which card.... GO 7900 GS, Go 7900 GTX or GO 7950 GTX? Also did you update your gfx drivers to the latest one available from your manufacturer? 7950 GTX with latest Dell drivers. I already thought about using a modified inf File and using a newer driver. just found this link, anyone tried this? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/940105 unfortunatly last time i looked the "latest dell drivers" where like 2 year old nvidia detonators. /Theo. here is what i found - orginal "real" dell driver is 98.09 ------------------------------- Dell Rapid Driver Release Performance Driver The Performance Driver is a driver from the video card manufacturer that has been through a limited compatibility and stability testing by Dell on Dell platforms. There may be more stable drivers, including the drivers originally shipped with your computer, available through the ôDownload Nowö link on this page. Download latest Dell Performance Driver (limited Dell Testing. Vendor version 167.45)



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