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Kirjava Lothian Quay Industries Zzz	Posted - 2007.12.07 14:11:00 - [31] PR and common sense say CCP dropped the ball and should pay the penalty, not the consumers and hence 2 days added would be an acceptable payoff. By their EULA they don't have to, but in a court of law they are not worth much. For instance if people can prove that through grosse neglegance CCP released software that was hostile to the system - regardless of intent, then a judge would accept this as enough evidence to start legal procedures. If I were in CCP damage control would be the priority, for those saying it's a free upgrade..... Just don't, this isn't free, this is an expected from any good MMO company to have free upgrades, or if they are major or optional to charge for it as a small fee. Rate my charecters please, updated so need 3 more, 2M isk for each good review
Huldradans Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.12.07 14:13:00 - [32] Originally by: Avon You used to be able to write code on a BBC micro computer that would physically destroy it. HAHA - ♮ EVESOURCE.COM: Teamspeak, forum & killboard hosting services -
An Anarchyyt Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.12.07 14:14:00 - [33] I'm still waiting on Microsoft and Mac to give me free stuff for their variety of large mistakes over the years. And when Honda does a recall, I expect them to give me free gas to compensate for time spent driving, and new tires to compensate for the wear on my treads. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Banana Torres The Green Banana Corporation	Posted - 2007.12.07 14:15:00 - [34] Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Banana Torres Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Banana Torres Originally by: Huldradans They didn't have to make it :\| Edit: don't they charge for WoW upgrades? But they did make it, so that leaves my question unanswered, how was the expansion funded? It was funded by the money saved by not reimbursing people with money or game time for screwups. Happy? No, that just prompts the question where did that money come from. From subscriptions. So, the expansion is not free, but amortised over the monthly subscriptions. That sounds familiar.
Duncan Bannatyne BioDyne Industries	Posted - 2007.12.07 14:17:00 - [35] Well i actually thank CCP for screwing up my boot.ini.. yes.. its true. I once had a serious virus on my harddrive which completely disabled it, instead of re-installing windows and losing alot of information i just created a second partition. Everytime i booted up since i had to select the second partition manually as to avoid booting up on the screwed up side. Taking my boot.ini stopped this so it automatically boots on the drive i actually use, win. 2 reasons why this is good for me: 1) Lazyness. 2) I have a logitech G15 keyboard which dosnt work untill the drivers have loaded, etc. I had to have a secondary keyboard in to choose the partition, which i no longer have to do. Whilst the solution to this would just be to delete my previous partition im a lazy guy, and it works how it is. THANKS CCP FOR SCREWING WITH THE SETUP FILES Duncan Bannatyne The Dragons Are Taking Over...
Kolmogorow Freedom Resources	Posted - 2007.12.07 14:17:00 - [36] Originally by: Gericault m0id They budget for these things. If they fail to upgrade servers it's because it's not in the budget. Yes, of course. But a loss of a million or more because of one month of free subscriptions will influence (=lower) the budget for hardware upgrades in the next year.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.12.07 14:18:00 - [37] Originally by: Banana Torres Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Banana Torres Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Banana Torres Originally by: Huldradans They didn't have to make it :\| Edit: don't they charge for WoW upgrades? But they did make it, so that leaves my question unanswered, how was the expansion funded? It was funded by the money saved by not reimbursing people with money or game time for screwups. Happy? No, that just prompts the question where did that money come from. From subscriptions. So, the expansion is not free, but amortised over the monthly subscriptions. That sounds familiar. Yes. You're right. It's that simple. And if CCP were inclined to payout reimbursement every time something went wrong, they'd have exactly as much money for expansions as they do now, despite the extra expenditure. Because that maths stuff, it doesn't really apply to real life. - I wish I was a three foot female doll with a watering can and heterochromatic eyes.
Doctor Fruitloop	Posted - 2007.12.07 14:18:00 - [38] Originally by: Kolmogorow Originally by: Gericault m0id They budget for these things. If they fail to upgrade servers it's because it's not in the budget. Yes, of course. But a loss of a million or more because of one month of free subscriptions will influence (=lower) the budget for hardware upgrades in the next year. Maybe CCP should start charging Americans the same as Europeans?
Lilly McGuyver Temptation INC	Posted - 2007.12.07 14:20:00 - [39] So i as a consumer, that is already paying for three accounts (happily i might add) should bear the burden of repair cost¦s inflicted by them? I thing that any lawyer would disagree with you. I for one would not have hesitated to send them the bill for it if i had not been able to do it myself! I know i have something in my face Your civilian gatling rail gun strikes Innocent n00b, wrecking for 7dmg
Sister Libertina	Posted - 2007.12.07 14:22:00 - [40] I think CCP should double the subscription fee. This way they could pay their staff more which makes happier staff. They could have comfier chairs and nicer coffee to keep them awake and alert. They would be able to afford nicer cars to make sitting in the traffic jams less stressfull and therefore arive at work in a happier mood. This way someone who was happier, more comfortable and more alert and not stressed out from the morning commute may have spotted the boot.ini bug. So double the subscription charges I say
General M0BIUS Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.12.07 14:23:00 - [41] If the CCP groupies think that giving away 1 months subscription is to much, then how about reducing the montly suscription of a max of 5 euros a month sound. Plus having a cheaper Subscription like 10.99 euros a month may help their damaged PR. this screw up is all over the gaming press aswell as the inquirer, Reddit, Digg. and im sure you will be reading more about it in the gaming mags. CCP need to put on a brave face as the sort of negative press will damage the games reputation, Because of this issue Could this be the begining of the end for EVE online
An Anarchyyt Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.12.07 14:23:00 - [42] Edited by: An Anarchyyt on 07/12/2007 14:23:54 Originally by: Lilly McGuyver So i as a consumer, that is already paying for three accounts (happily i might add) should bear the burden of repair cost¦s inflicted by them? I thing that any lawyer would disagree with you. I for one would not have hesitated to send them the bill for it if i had not been able to do it myself! You could send them all the bills you want. Doesn't mean anything is gonna get paid. This is right up there with sueing McDonalds because you dropped coffee on yourself. Originally by: Doctor Fruitloop Originally by: Kolmogorow Originally by: Gericault m0id They budget for these things. If they fail to upgrade servers it's because it's not in the budget. Yes, of course. But a loss of a million or more because of one month of free subscriptions will influence (=lower) the budget for hardware upgrades in the next year. Maybe CCP should start charging Americans the same as Europeans? Because CCP controls the global currency exchange rates, and shold change the price every since time there is a .1 shift. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Lilly McGuyver Temptation INC	Posted - 2007.12.07 14:25:00 - [43] Originally by: An Anarchyyt Originally by: Lilly McGuyver This is right up there with sueing McDonalds because you dropped coffee on yourself. You my kind sir amuse me and i thank you. I would like to change your quoted sentence for proper effect. This is right up there with sueing McDonalds because THEY dropped coffee on you and then todl you to *** off.* I know i have something in my face Your civilian gatling rail gun strikes Innocent n00b, wrecking for 7dmg
lolzor	Posted - 2007.12.07 14:26:00 - [44] Hello, I'm an imbecile, i dont know how a computer works and because of this i "bricked" my computer. Now i demand compensation!!!
Zacari	Posted - 2007.12.07 14:28:00 - [45] What's wrong with you people? CCP didn't cause anyone to lose any meaningful data. Nobody was forced with a gun to their head to take their PC to a tech guy who bent them over and shafted them for lots of $$$. There are/were pleanty of free paths you could have walked but you chose not to use your brain and took the 'easy' option of paying someone else. Learn and move on.
Banana Torres The Green Banana Corporation	Posted - 2007.12.07 14:30:00 - [46] Originally by: Zacari What's wrong with you people? CCP didn't cause anyone to lose any meaningful data. Nobody was forced with a gun to their head to take their PC to a tech guy who bent them over and shafted them for lots of $$$. There are/were pleanty of free paths you could have walked but you chose not to use your brain and took the 'easy' option of paying someone else. Yep, blame the victim.
Rukaz Endgame.	Posted - 2007.12.07 14:31:00 - [47] Edited by: Rukaz on 07/12/2007 14:32:00 If you were effected try writing to CCP explaining how it effected you. You might find they aren't heartless capitalist customer abusing pig dogs after all :)
General M0BIUS Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.12.07 14:31:00 - [48] Edited by: General M0BIUS on 07/12/2007 14:32:57 Originally by: lolzor Hello, I'm an imbecile, i dont know how a computer works and because of this i "bricked" my computer. Now i demand compensation!!! I ended up going around 3 friends houses because they didnt know how to repair their boot.ini cos i got fed up of trying to explain to them in lamen terms how to do it. some people like to have a PC for gaming, internet and Downloading music. but havnt got an idea on how it all works. and im sure for alot out ther just right clicking on the desktop sends them into a blind panic. ( yes i know people like these should not have a pc in the first place but it cant be helped . they are out their.
Lilly McGuyver Temptation INC	Posted - 2007.12.07 14:32:00 - [49] Originally by: Zacari What's wrong with you people? CCP didn't cause anyone to lose any meaningful data. Nobody was forced with a gun to their head to take their PC to a tech guy who bent them over and shafted them for lots of $$$. There are/were pleanty of free paths you could have walked but you chose not to use your brain and took the 'easy' option of paying someone else. Learn and move on. Another amusing one. If you are 50 years old, play eve because you have a disability and one day your computer does not boot up. You can not access the internet to find said "free paths" and you have no working knowledge of computers. Zacari, what would you do? I know that you should put your number here so that all those fools that got shafted by CCP (oops sorry, tech guy) can call you for some free advice. I know i have something in my face Your civilian gatling rail gun strikes Innocent n00b, wrecking for 7dmg
N1fty Amarr Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2007.12.07 14:32:00 - [50] And now the news: CCP is reimbursing all eve players with 1 months gametime, and repaying anyone who was stupid enough to pay for a simple boot.ini fix. In unrelated events, the subscription fee for eve-online has been raised twofold. ==============================================
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.12.07 14:32:00 - [51] Originally by: Lilly McGuyver Originally by: An Anarchyyt This is right up there with sueing McDonalds because you dropped coffee on yourself. You my kind sir amuse me and i thank you. I would like to change your quoted sentence for proper effect. This is right up there with sueing McDonalds because THEY dropped coffee on you and then todl you to *** off.* I'll fix it a little further. And fix your quote tags too. This is right up there with sueing McDonalds because THEY dropped coffee on you, while they are profusely apologizing and are trying to clean you up as best they can - I wish I was a three foot female doll with a watering can and heterochromatic eyes.
Seishomaru	Posted - 2007.12.07 14:33:00 - [52] Originally by: Lilly McGuyver So i as a consumer, that is already paying for three accounts (happily i might add) should bear the burden of repair cost¦s inflicted by them? I thing that any lawyer would disagree with you. I for one would not have hesitated to send them the bill for it if i had not been able to do it myself! The cost of restoring boot.ini is maybe on ccp to cover... but the cost of people that destroied their computers because tried to fix themselves without proper knowledge its their fault. Or that a stupid technician erased their HD. That was the technician fault! If someone crash his car on mine and my light is broken. He will pay the light. If the machanic that is repairing it, put the car on fire, THE MECHANIC will pay it! Also a restitution would never be based on a "CHARGED" price, but likely in a due price. Since any NON THIEF technician can solve it for 5$ bucks to 10$ that would be the realistic payout. If you are paying 150$, then I am sorry but you are being robbed. If CCp was to pay that to you then I should solve this problem fro 20000 U$ maybe, then CCP should repay it.. see why it does not work? its not how much you payed that CCP own's you. CCP own's you the REAL REASONABLE cost of repairing that
Kerfira	Posted - 2007.12.07 14:35:00 - [53] Edited by: Kerfira on 07/12/2007 14:36:05 Originally by: Kirjava PR and common sense say CCP dropped the ball and should pay the penalty, not the consumers and hence 2 days added would be an acceptable payoff. By their EULA they don't have to, but in a court of law they are not worth much. For instance if people can prove that through grosse neglegance CCP released software that was hostile to the system - regardless of intent, then a judge would accept this as enough evidence to start legal procedures. This is Europe, which doesn't have stupid laws like the US. If you can prove that you've suffered a REAL financial loss (and no, not being able to use your gaming computer for a few hours isn't one, nor is paying to have it fixed), AND you can somehow get the EULA revoked (which would NOT be a simple matter since it basically is a contract that YOU have willingly signed), then you MIGHT get your financial loss compensated (no damages). Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
Zacari	Posted - 2007.12.07 14:36:00 - [54] Originally by: Banana Torres Originally by: Zacari What's wrong with you people? CCP didn't cause anyone to lose any meaningful data. Nobody was forced with a gun to their head to take their PC to a tech guy who bent them over and shafted them for lots of $$$. There are/were pleanty of free paths you could have walked but you chose not to use your brain and took the 'easy' option of paying someone else. Yep, blame the victim. It's how you respond to being a victim that's the issue, there's no need for people to be so immature about it. Some people are reacting as if CCP have comitted some sort of crime against humanity, rather than causing a very minor annoyance.
lolzor	Posted - 2007.12.07 14:40:00 - [55] Originally by: General M0BIUS Edited by: General M0BIUS on 07/12/2007 14:32:57 Originally by: lolzor Hello, I'm an imbecile, i dont know how a computer works and because of this i "bricked" my computer. Now i demand compensation!!! I ended up going around 3 friends houses because they didnt know how to repair their boot.ini cos i got fed up of trying to explain to them in lamen terms how to do it. some people like to have a PC for gaming, internet and Downloading music. but havnt got an idea on how it all works. and im sure for alot out ther just right clicking on the desktop sends them into a blind panic. ( yes i know people like these should not have a pc in the first place but it cant be helped . they are out their. Thus they end up at some store to fix their computer because they are too inapt to do it themself, why should CCP compensate for the inaptness of their customers
Zacari	Posted - 2007.12.07 14:41:00 - [56] Edited by: Zacari on 07/12/2007 14:44:47 Originally by: Lilly McGuyver Originally by: Zacari What's wrong with you people? CCP didn't cause anyone to lose any meaningful data. Nobody was forced with a gun to their head to take their PC to a tech guy who bent them over and shafted them for lots of $$$. There are/were pleanty of free paths you could have walked but you chose not to use your brain and took the 'easy' option of paying someone else. Learn and move on. Another amusing one. If you are 50 years old, play eve because you have a disability and one day your computer does not boot up. You can not access the internet to find said "free paths" and you have no working knowledge of computers. Zacari, what would you do? I know that you should put your number here so that all those fools that got shafted by CCP (oops sorry, tech guy) can call you for some free advice. I've had my grandparents on the phone several times in the past because of PC issues. They seem to have the good sense to ask people they know who might be able to fix the issue for free. I guess if you were 50, disabled, no facility to leave the house (as libraries, etc. have free 'net access so you could look up a solution there), have no friends, relatives or co-workers to ask, you might have a point. But I doubt very much that the majority of people whining about this issue fit into that bracket. If anyone out there does, I apologise, but seen as you'd be the kind of person not to accept an apology as enough, I guess you'd try and sue me too? Don't get me wrong, I'm annoyed they made the error. But they've apologised and for me that's enough.
Zacari	Posted - 2007.12.07 14:52:00 - [57] Originally by: General M0BIUS Their are too many laid back people that think that this is just a minor issue and that its and everyday thing. These people seem to think that as this is such a minor issue the noobs who rebuilt their hdd because they didnÆt have access to the Eve forums deserved what they got. The question is not about how people fixed their PC'c or how they werenÆt affected by it. the question is, Is this Seriously bad public relations Frakup going to cost CCP, and if so should CCP make some sort of public PR stunt to repair this damage. I don't think CCP should do anyhting that'd financially hurt themselvs directly. If they wanted to do something, maybe have a double-speed skill learning week or something, just as a token sort of thing.
Kirjava Lothian Quay Industries Zzz	Posted - 2007.12.07 14:53:00 - [58] Originally by: Kerfira Edited by: Kerfira on 07/12/2007 14:36:05 Originally by: Kirjava ...... This is Europe, which doesn't have stupid laws like the US. If you can prove that you've suffered a REAL financial loss (and no, not being able to use your gaming computer for a few hours isn't one, nor is paying to have it fixed), AND you can somehow get the EULA revoked (which would NOT be a simple matter since it basically is a contract that YOU have willingly signed), then you MIGHT get your financial loss compensated (no damages). For the record, I am British, I am going by British laws here. No, I did not have this problem, CCP have offices in the USA so to the best of my knowlege that means that they could be subject to ridiculous laws which also the US enforces on the rest of the world through the WTO and other such bodies. I know what you say, thats what I meant and sorry if you didn't pick up on that Incidentaly, can you come up with an arguement in which the EULA actualy stops legal procedures in the EU with people (who yes do have work and gaming PCs at the same time) who did lose money due to this, either by not having internet access to see everyone on the forums telling fixes but instead got it repaired by someone because they couldn't get inside to fix it? Rate my charecters please, updated so need 3 more, 2M isk for each good review
Doctor Fruitloop	Posted - 2007.12.07 14:58:00 - [59] Originally by: An Anarchyyt Because CCP controls the global currency exchange rates, and shold change the price every since time there is a .1 shift. I will change this then, why don't CCP just charge in Icelandic Kronar or the Euro to make all players pay the same ammount? I know I am just buying GTC on american sites because the exchange rate is so favourable for us Brits atm.
General M0BIUS Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.12.07 15:00:00 - [60] Originally by: Doctor Fruitloop I know I am just buying GTC on american sites because the exchange rate is so favourable for us Brits atm. how much does that work out as in us brit terms.

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