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McFly
Path of Light
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.12.08 11:56:00 -
[61]
 Originally by: Ponderous Thunderstroke
Originally by: McFly
When I was in lowsec I liked the combination of enforcing NBSI and Piracy..Using NBSI as a pre-emptive security measure and reaping the benefits of the loot at the same time.
Lemme guess, ex-Endless Horizons?
Ex HellHounds we were settled in the area around Miroona in the Khanid lowsec.
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Raem Civrie
Sons of Enelaise
Enelaise
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Posted - 2007.12.08 12:17:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Tyn Tetro
Edited by: Tyn Tetro on 08/12/2007 01:10:24
Originally by: Raem Civrie
NBSI in 0.0 is piracy
NBSI in lowsec is piracy
NBSI in highsec is piracy
Havent you heard, piracy is dead. Territorial control is part of eve and just like 0.0 lowsec has its "controllers" but calling them pirates is incorrect imho. IMHO any group of players that try to control/secure an area of land can not be called pirates. Pirates are a seperate entity.
There was a fourth line to my post.
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No-one cares that you call them that unless you're a bigger entity that can wardec them and prove they're pirates through force of arms.
It basically means "no-one gives a **** about what you think unless you roll in with bigger and more numerous guns, in which case you can call it whatever you like".
0.0 territorial control used to be slagged as "piracy" back in the day through pretty much the same logical fallacy that the OP uses to decry lowsec control.
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Zaethiel
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2007.12.08 12:21:00 -
[63]
It's just a way for alliances to justify piracy in their own minds, feeding delusions of righteousness.
-------------------------- Piwate Bunny Wuv
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Raem Civrie
Sons of Enelaise
Enelaise
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Posted - 2007.12.08 12:22:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Zaethiel
It's just a way for alliances to justify piracy in their own minds, feeding delusions of righteousness.
In the end it doesn't actually matter if they retain superiority through force of arms.
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Sanka Cofie
Amarr
Nubs.
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.12.08 12:55:00 -
[65]
What about force of legs? Legs can be pretty forceful too when applied correctly.
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Berrik Radhok
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.08 21:03:00 -
[66]
If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.
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Raem Civrie
Sons of Enelaise
Enelaise
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Posted - 2007.12.08 21:53:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Sanka Cofie
What about force of legs? Legs can be pretty forceful too when applied correctly.
You're not taking the matter at hand seriously enough. Light-hearted comments like that will only help maintain the status quo of something or the other. Whatever, I lost interest already.
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Khul Drukath
Maelstrom Crew
Mournival Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.10 00:46:00 -
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If you and a few other rich mission runners are having issues then you can always hire some mercs to come and protect you. ;)
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Kirsten Fud
HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2007.12.10 06:06:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Friedrick Psitalon
NBSI in low-sec is pretty much piracy - or at least serial murder, since they may not be after ransom. Alliances claiming low-sec under any other ROE are quite legitimate; pirate-filled low-sec is a great place to learn things while building skillpoints and assets before a move to any other kind of 0.0 space. (Also helps if your first move is to, say, a pirate-infested NPC-run hell of a 0.0 like....Syndicate.)
I resent the implication that Huzzah and friends are pirates.
We like to pew pew, Syndicate gives us lots of pew pew, Yarrrrrrr!
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Danari
Amarr
Viper Squad
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.12.10 07:26:00 -
[70]
A group that prevents you from undocking and ratting/mining/hauling in .1 is just as legitimate as a group that does the same in 0.0 npc regions, other than the security hits. If you're docked and they're not, they are controlling you.
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Viro Melchior
Interstellar eXodus
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.12.10 22:54:00 -
[71]
I was a member of the "alliance" that got moved out of Khanid. Funny how history looks different depending on the viewpoint.
After having spent a year of my life in an industrial corporation, and the latter half of that in a somewhat competent (concerning pvp... low sp averages suck!) alliance, here's my take:
NBSI creates conflicts, and makes enemies. But it also diverts attention from the NPCers.
NBSI provides targets for assorted practice and gang ops. Probing down mission runners is an excellent practice for 0.0 covop-pilots-to-be. Locking down gates is great practice, and you really appreciate interceptors and interdictors more once you're in 0.0.
NRDS encourages "real" pirates to come in and shoot your miners with little to no warning. Without having pvpers at random gates in a region, or paying attention to d-scans, how do you know whether someone is cruising through space in a HAC and not an industrial?
Ground Zeero alliance did have people in it who were interested in the piratey aspect of NBSI in lowsec. And we made efforts to control/remove them. After gaining a few million skillpoints though, our pilots and corporations did break up from our alliance, and most are now contributing corporations in 0.0 alliances putting their skills to the test, and proving that lowsec practice pays off.
Oh, and we worked hard to make tons and tons of blue standings, but various corps and alliances still bunched up their panties over it. That's their problem - wasn't ours.
To the OP: Get over it. It's lowsec, that means you'll get shot. If you want to operate in space with a NBSI alliance, TALK TO THEIR DIPLOMAT FOR STANDINGS!!!. If they are half-decent NBSI lowsec corp, they'll have ideas in place for setting mutual standings, coordinating defense, and possibly paying for the security their pilots provide for the mission running. GZ had several groups that paid "protection money" or helped significantly with PvP. If you didn't want to pay, you were welcome to run your missions somewhere else. Not like EVE has a lack of agents. Same applies to you. NBSI lowsec corp got your family jewels? Move out and make your money elsewhere.
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Grainsalt
Free Corp
Liberty Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.10 23:37:00 -
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I am an alliance and I claim Issinoka Spacelane ... Beware..
On a serious note, Amarr low sec space is huge compared to others and is a very good area to learn and hone those skills needed for 0.0...
i.e. It is empty, everyone is napped and it's a pain to make isk...
oh no wait, you lose sec status 
vive la 0.4
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