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Deathifier Minmatar Carebears Must Die Ltd.	Posted - 2007.12.07 20:44:00 - [1] Edited by: Deathifier on 07/12/2007 20:45:06 Hi, just want to get peoples opinions on this. In my travels through the world of Eve, I've noticed in a few regions of empire space Alliances claiming ownership of low sec (0.1-0.4) systems and operating a NBSI policy. For neutrals doing missions in these systems it amounts to piracy under another name. Is this low-sec empire 'land grab' fairly common throughout the eve galaxy, and if so what do you think of this style of play. Imho it's a method for carebear alliances who woudln't hack it in 0.0 to push their weight around. But that's just my opinion.
Cippalippus Primus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.07 20:48:00 - [2] Your opinion counts, a lot.
Local Her0 Minmatar La Mancha Corp	Posted - 2007.12.07 20:57:00 - [3] Edited by: Local Her0 on 07/12/2007 20:57:10 alliances have to start somewhere you know
Hannobaal Gallente Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.07 21:01:00 - [4] Originally by: Deathifier For neutrals doing missions in these systems it amounts to piracy under another name. And?
Deathifier Minmatar Carebears Must Die Ltd.	Posted - 2007.12.07 21:04:00 - [5] Edited by: Deathifier on 07/12/2007 21:04:38 Originally by: Hannobaal Originally by: Deathifier For neutrals doing missions in these systems it amounts to piracy under another name. And? And.... a lot of these alliances are claiming to be industry/mining carebear type alliances yet their actions don't fit their description, and smacktalk any non alliance that enter the systems.
Friedrick Psitalon The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.12.07 21:06:00 - [6] Originally by: Deathifier Edited by: Deathifier on 07/12/2007 20:45:06 Hi, just want to get peoples opinions on this. In my travels through the world of Eve, I've noticed in a few regions of empire space Alliances claiming ownership of low sec (0.1-0.4) systems and operating a NBSI policy. For neutrals doing missions in these systems it amounts to piracy under another name. Is this low-sec empire 'land grab' fairly common throughout the eve galaxy, and if so what do you think of this style of play. Imho it's a method for carebear alliances who woudln't hack it in 0.0 to push their weight around. But that's just my opinion. NBSI in low-sec is pretty much piracy - or at least serial murder, since they may not be after ransom. Alliances claiming low-sec under any other ROE are quite legitimate; pirate-filled low-sec is a great place to learn things while building skillpoints and assets before a move to any other kind of 0.0 space. (Also helps if your first move is to, say, a pirate-infested NPC-run hell of a 0.0 like....Syndicate.) Just one guy's thoughts, anyhow.
Ephemeral Waves The Nine Gates	Posted - 2007.12.07 21:12:00 - [7] I prefer that style of play to the style that is "oh noes, I lost a ship and need to cry about it on COAD". I make sigs
Deathifier Minmatar Carebears Must Die Ltd.	Posted - 2007.12.07 21:15:00 - [8] Originally by: Ephemeral Waves I prefer that style of play to the style that is "oh noes, I lost a ship and need to cry about it on COAD". lol well they'd be posting on the wrong forum for starters I had one particular alliance in mind when creating this post though. Needless to say they should be losing quite a few towers over the coming months
Malcanis High4Life SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.07 21:19:00 - [9] Originally by: Deathifier Edited by: Deathifier on 07/12/2007 20:45:06 Hi, just want to get peoples opinions on this. In my travels through the world of Eve, I've noticed in a few regions of empire space Alliances claiming ownership of low sec (0.1-0.4) systems and operating a NBSI policy. For neutrals doing missions in these systems it amounts to piracy under another name. Is this low-sec empire 'land grab' fairly common throughout the eve galaxy, and if so what do you think of this style of play. Imho it's a method for carebear alliances who woudln't hack it in 0.0 to push their weight around. But that's just my opinion. 1 gun, 1 vote. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Koi Yokuma Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.07 21:37:00 - [10] Originally by: Malcanis 1 gun, 1 vote. Can't argue with that.
Farham AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2007.12.07 21:38:00 - [11] Quote: Is this low-sec empire 'land grab' fairly common throughout the eve galaxy, and if so what do you think of this style of play. Might makes right. Intrepid Crossing Diplomat and All Around Major Idiot
Captain Blart Hideous Mutant Freekz	Posted - 2007.12.07 21:48:00 - [12] Edited by: Captain Blart on 07/12/2007 21:48:40 Originally by: Cippalippus Primus Your opinion counts, a lot. And troll's opinion count double ?
Chip2k3 Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.12.07 21:49:00 - [13] you realise the irony of writing a "i cant mission in low-sec" whine when your corp name is carebears must die?? MEMBER OF TEAM TURBOÖ
PYROnoxx Brutor tribe	Posted - 2007.12.07 21:52:00 - [14] personally i think it would be nice to put the alliance name on low security systems with a kind of sub-sovereignty for systems i think protectorate is a way to put it (?) anyway stop posting no one really cares about empire anyway
Spoon Thumb Paladin Imperium	Posted - 2007.12.07 21:59:00 - [15] My old alliance practiced NRDS in low sec, protecting mission runners (who incidentally were our members or friends and certainly no carebears. Mission running ships are great for ganking small gangs of pirates. they don't come back). Then an NBSI alliance moved in. We NAP'ed them since we were smaller, but in the end they were such a bunch of *******s in the way they treated their members and others in the region, they got booted out and fell apart Khaldari khanidpublic : RP channel for supporters of the Kingdom Recruiting
Spoon Thumb Paladin Imperium	Posted - 2007.12.07 22:02:00 - [16] Been out of region for a while, but one of my old friends still there said that some NBSI groups had started moving in again (different ones). History repeating itself? Basically, alliances that are just made of pirates that want cheap ganks and no effort to actually foster relations with other corps / groups have a short life expectancy Khaldari khanidpublic : RP channel for supporters of the Kingdom Recruiting
Asylum Seaker Quam Singulari The Church.	Posted - 2007.12.07 22:03:00 - [17] The validity of these claims is not based on your, or anyone else's judgment, but on how effectively they can kill you. The universe is hostile, so impersonal, devour to survive, so it is, so it's always been.
Deathifier Minmatar Carebears Must Die Ltd.	Posted - 2007.12.07 22:03:00 - [18] Originally by: Chip2k3 you realise the irony of writing a "i cant mission in low-sec" whine when your corp name is carebears must die?? Maybe you should stop making foolish assumptions first. The reason I created this post was due to a convo I seen on local chat a few days ago, with a lot of smacktalk coming from the mission runner. I'm not really into mission running tbh and as you already mentioned my corp name suggests :) I just wanted to find out if claiming virtual soverignty (sp) over low sec empire systems was common through eve.
commander doom Cult of War	Posted - 2007.12.07 22:08:00 - [19] why do goonswarm have to smack every thread there is going. They trying to make a name for them self like BoB? just a shame that BoB brought it in game as well as out withiut having to use 5-1 odds! ASCN anyone? Goons<BOB
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.07 22:08:00 - [20] People shoot people. And then, like, people totally shoot them back. If someone says they "own" low-sec space, and they effectively control what goes on in it, and no-one is stopping them, then they own it. Whether you call it piracy, murder or territorial control is really neither here nor there when talking about blowing up internet spaceships. Personally, I'd say that blowing people up in your own 0.0 space is "defence", doing it in other peoples 0.0 is "raiding" (no WoW connotations intended), doing it lots in other peoples territory is "invading", and doing it in Empire is "piracy". But thats just me. ------ Originally by: CCP Prism X There's no such thing as playing too much EvE! You all obviously need more accounts!
Janu Hull Caldari Terra Incognita Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.12.07 22:09:00 - [21] You'll find some alliances get pretty provincial over their favorite pipes into no-sec.
sakana North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.12.07 22:09:00 - [22] If their just carebears then why dont you stop them?
tesame	Posted - 2007.12.07 22:10:00 - [23] Originally by: Spoon Thumb NRDS in low sec, NOT RED DON'T SHOOT means you support macro runners. And you support selling isk for money. Good for you...
Janu Hull Caldari Terra Incognita Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.12.07 22:11:00 - [24] Originally by: tesame Originally by: Spoon Thumb NRDS in low sec, NOT RED DON'T SHOOT means you support macro runners. And you support selling isk for money. Good for you... Vice President Cheney?
Spoon Thumb Paladin Imperium	Posted - 2007.12.07 22:21:00 - [25] Edited by: Spoon Thumb on 07/12/2007 22:22:39 edit: /me helpessly falls into the trap of trying to reply to someone else's post Originally by: Janu Hull Originally by: tesame Originally by: Spoon Thumb NRDS in low sec, NOT RED DON'T SHOOT means you support macro runners. And you support selling isk for money. Good for you... Vice President Cheney? This was beforem macro haulers were invented Khaldari khanidpublic : RP channel for supporters of the Kingdom Recruiting
Spoon Thumb Paladin Imperium	Posted - 2007.12.07 22:21:00 - [26] Originally by: tesame Originally by: Spoon Thumb NRDS in low sec, NOT RED DON'T SHOOT means you support macro runners. And you support selling isk for money. Good for you... And no it doesn't Khaldari khanidpublic : RP channel for supporters of the Kingdom Recruiting
Deschenus Maximus Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.12.07 22:31:00 - [27] Originally by: Cippalippus Primus Your opinion counts, a lot. In my opinion, Cippa's opinion that your opinion counts, a lot, is the proper opinion for an opinionated felow, so I will share his opinion. But the again, who cares about my opinion? D-F-C recruitment closed
Koi Yokuma Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.07 22:31:00 - [28] Hi Patch! o/
Raem Civrie Sons of Enelaise Enelaise	Posted - 2007.12.07 22:50:00 - [29] NBSI in 0.0 is piracy NBSI in lowsec is piracy NBSI in highsec is piracy No-one cares that you call them that unless you're a bigger entity that can wardec them and prove they're pirates through force of arms. ---
Deathifier Minmatar Carebears Must Die Ltd.	Posted - 2007.12.07 22:51:00 - [30] Originally by: Cippalippus Primus Edited by: Cippalippus Primus on 07/12/2007 22:45:01 Originally by: Deschenus Maximus Originally by: Cippalippus Primus Your opinion counts, a lot. In my opinion, Cippa's opinion that your opinion counts, a lot, is the proper opinion for an opinionated felow, so I will share his opinion. But the again, who cares about my opinion? Well, I do. I expecially love how the OP cloaked his whine for getting ganked in low sec with this thread. Pay attention tard, I gave the reasons I created this thread above. I'm not a mission runner/carebear type. Now stop flaming and return to your Tardswarm plz

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