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Businessman Bob	Posted - 2007.12.07 20:49:00 - [1] I have spent several months building up cash and skills slowly for the EOS. Tell me now, it would seem they nerfed it pretty bad in regards to command ships. What are the new "positives" of this ship now?
maarud Scare Tactics	Posted - 2007.12.07 20:50:00 - [2] Positive... it will be cheaper? Maarud. Proudly a Ex-BYDI member <t20> i'd rather have a python in my pants than a sleipnir
Alex Harumichi Gallente Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.12.07 21:13:00 - [3] Originally by: Businessman Bob I have spent several months building up cash and skills slowly for the EOS. Tell me now, it would seem they nerfed it pretty bad in regards to command ships. What are the new "positives" of this ship now? Positives? "Price falling like a rock" is the only thing that comes to mind right now.
Riho Northen Breeze	Posted - 2007.12.07 21:28:00 - [4] better tank and it still doesn enough dps for me to use in PVP :) i quite like the new one allready :)
Neon Genesis The Landed Gentry	Posted - 2007.12.07 21:31:00 - [5] The important thing is it's far closer to the class of ship it should belong to. _
Reptar Dragon Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.12.07 21:31:00 - [6] it's meant to be used with warfare links in fleet support. now it will. fly an astarte.
Gaius Sejanus Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.12.07 21:37:00 - [7] Eos isn't completely useless, but it surely got its head bashed in with a spiked titanium nerf bat. Quintuple nerf baby.
Businessman Bob	Posted - 2007.12.07 21:41:00 - [8] haha doesnt matter I bought one was taking it back to my rat spot and 7 jumps after buying it it gets blown up and I get podded. This after being away for over a month because of real life issues. Now I have to grind more money in my ****ty BC to even think about it. Probably just should quit.
Lazarann Ideal Machine	Posted - 2007.12.07 21:46:00 - [9] Originally by: Businessman Bob Probably just should quit. Can I have your stuff?
Annowyn Purgatorial Janitors Inc.	Posted - 2007.12.07 21:57:00 - [10] wait, wait, wait. So, technically this is a QQ I died in a pvp game thread?
NoNah	Posted - 2007.12.07 22:14:00 - [11] Originally by: Businessman Bob haha doesnt matter I bought one was taking it back to my rat spot and 7 jumps after buying it it gets blown up and I get podded. This after being away for over a month because of real life issues. Now I have to grind more money in my ****ty BC to even think about it. Probably just should quit. Actually, by the sound of things, you could've been flying jovian ships and got popped. The Eos got nerfed, but it never compensated for the pilots lack of gameunderstanding. And I don't suppose you've heard the old device "Don't fly what you can't afford to lose" at some point? Postcount: 7666
Zhecao Vai Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.07 22:20:00 - [12] Edited by: Zhecao Vai on 07/12/2007 22:19:53 Originally by: Businessman Bob Probably just should quit. Yes, probably.
UMEE	Posted - 2007.12.07 22:25:00 - [13] guys, what the hell? hes obviously in need of emotional support hey bob, i can see why you're feeling down. you spent a lot of time farming ISK to buy a really expensive ship, and you lost it in seconds. it can be frustrating. take a couple of days off, and learn from your experience. you'll get the cash in no time! now THIS is what forums should be about, people helping each other.
NoNah	Posted - 2007.12.07 22:28:00 - [14] Originally by: UMEE guys, what the hell? hes obviously in need of emotional support hey bob, i can see why you're feeling down. you spent a lot of time farming ISK to buy a really expensive ship, and you lost it in seconds. it can be frustrating. take a couple of days off, and learn from your experience. you'll get the cash in no time! now THIS is what forums should be about, people helping each other. We are helping! Now quit the game and send me the ISK. (He just got the EVE 101 - don't fly what you can't afford. And 102 - No one's interested in your whine, won't care if you quit, or cry because you failed. This is cold hard space, not hello kitty-online.(Which by the way is a very good game which might be worth a shot if the game's to tough on you)). Postcount: 395670
Miss KillSome Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2007.12.07 22:31:00 - [15] yeah, it got nerfed, but only these far, that can be only used as CCP wanted to be used: in laggy fleets, giving useless bonuses.. It has a awesome tank though..
Deschenus Maximus Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.12.07 22:38:00 - [16] It will do it's job as a FLEET command ship better? How's that bad? Oh wai... you wanted the solopwnmobile Eos, didn't you? Well, too bad, so sad, that's not what FLEET commands are about. Get the Astarte if you want pwnage. D-F-C recruitment closed
Alowishus Shadow Company FreeFall Securities	Posted - 2007.12.07 22:38:00 - [17] Originally by: UMEE guys, what the hell? hes obviously in need of emotional support hey bob, i can see why you're feeling down. you spent a lot of time farming ISK to buy a really expensive ship, and you lost it in seconds. it can be frustrating. take a couple of days off, and learn from your experience. you'll get the cash in no time! now THIS is what forums should be about, people helping each other. Telling people what they want to hear is not helping them. Bob loses Eve and you lose the forums.
NoNah	Posted - 2007.12.07 22:39:00 - [18] Originally by: Deschenus Maximus It will do it's job as a FLEET command ship better? How's that bad? Oh wai... you wanted the solopwnmobile Eos, didn't you? Well, too bad, so sad, that's not what FLEET commands are about. Get the Astarte if you want pwnage. Actually... will it? How? (And I really don't think the omni-cap drain nerf counts) Postcount: 961434
Deschenus Maximus Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.12.07 22:43:00 - [19] Originally by: NoNah Originally by: Deschenus Maximus It will do it's job as a FLEET command ship better? How's that bad? Oh wai... you wanted the solopwnmobile Eos, didn't you? Well, too bad, so sad, that's not what FLEET commands are about. Get the Astarte if you want pwnage. Actually... will it? How? (And I really don't think the omni-cap drain nerf counts) Another low means it's armour tank will be better. D-F-C recruitment closed
ponieus the united	Posted - 2007.12.07 22:45:00 - [20] I cant help but post here. My EOS still works great. 2 gang links and a rack of 250's plus a better tank.. i can see how far its nerfed. no I really can. but I will take all your eos that you guys dont want for 50m each since thats 50m more than you all say they are worth..
Businessman Bob	Posted - 2007.12.07 23:18:00 - [21] First off I dont need sympathy thanks. Second I was miffed because I have not been able to play and the time I did have which wasnt much finally allowed me to get out of the boring brutix. However no more than 20 minutes after buying I lose it, so it really freaking ****es me off. To top it off my jump clone wont work for another 20 hours, and I got stuck in that lag fest jita system. As far as having my isk, good luck with that, since I cant afford another low budget Eos why on Earth would you think you could get any decent amount of isk from me??? BTW I wasnt crying, I didnt say this person or group or corp got me you should ban them, feed me cheese please. Simply stated that after over a month layoff I come back with only a week or so to play and I lose the damn ship. Since I wont have much time left maybe it would be better to sell my 13 mil sp character to someone who can play more often. Course all you 1337 dudes gotta feed your epeens and try to make fun of others. Meatheads.
NoNah	Posted - 2007.12.07 23:31:00 - [22] Originally by: Businessman Bob First off I dont need sympathy thanks. Second I was miffed because I have not been able to play and the time I did have which wasnt much finally allowed me to get out of the boring brutix. However no more than 20 minutes after buying I lose it, so it really freaking ****es me off. To top it off my jump clone wont work for another 20 hours, and I got stuck in that lag fest jita system. As far as having my isk, good luck with that, since I cant afford another low budget Eos why on Earth would you think you could get any decent amount of isk from me??? BTW I wasnt crying, I didnt say this person or group or corp got me you should ban them, feed me cheese please. Simply stated that after over a month layoff I come back with only a week or so to play and I lose the damn ship. Since I wont have much time left maybe it would be better to sell my 13 mil sp character to someone who can play more often. Course all you 1337 dudes gotta feed your epeens and try to make fun of others. Meatheads. Point is, it's not the ships fault, it's your lack of experience. EVERYONE loses ships. And as mentioned the point is not to fly ships you can't afford to lose. Stay in the brutix, get a myrmid. Learn how the game works. Learn how to avoid roaming gangs and how the game works. What ships you can take in a brutix or myrmid, which ones you can't. Then evaluate the Eos. Is it that much better than the brutix or myrmid for the task at hand that you're ready to spend 4-5 times the cost of one? There is no such thing as a low budget Eos. There's no defendable way of fitting one out badly, and the nerf itself was so horridly minor to the problem with people with... unconventional fittings. I'm not saying yours was, or that you don't know how to fit one out - but there is something wrong in your way of looking at the game. Is it a friendly game? No, not at all. Is a large portion of the joys in game causing missery of the next pilot? Yes. As for the Jita issue, yes, Jita is a lagfest, sadly. And there's still no good ways of fixing it, known to mankind. However, if you hate it that much, why do you keep your medical clone there? You were just podded, that means you can podjump yourself back to your system. Get a new medical clone, move it to the office closest to home and self destruct your pod. Speaking of e-peens. I can't even fly an Eos. Speaking of Quitting ISK. There are quite a number of this kind of posts each day. Small sums add up. Postcount: 424617
Malcanis High4Life SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.07 23:36:00 - [23] Originally by: Businessman Bob I have spent several months building up cash and skills slowly for the EOS. Tell me now, it would seem they nerfed it pretty bad in regards to command ships. What are the new "positives" of this ship now? I've got an Ibis. Want to swap? CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Businessman Bob	Posted - 2007.12.07 23:41:00 - [24] Originally by: NoNah Originally by: Businessman Bob First off I dont need sympathy thanks. Second I was miffed because I have not been able to play and the time I did have which wasnt much finally allowed me to get out of the boring brutix. However no more than 20 minutes after buying I lose it, so it really freaking ****es me off. To top it off my jump clone wont work for another 20 hours, and I got stuck in that lag fest jita system. As far as having my isk, good luck with that, since I cant afford another low budget Eos why on Earth would you think you could get any decent amount of isk from me??? BTW I wasnt crying, I didnt say this person or group or corp got me you should ban them, feed me cheese please. Simply stated that after over a month layoff I come back with only a week or so to play and I lose the damn ship. Since I wont have much time left maybe it would be better to sell my 13 mil sp character to someone who can play more often. Course all you 1337 dudes gotta feed your epeens and try to make fun of others. Meatheads. Point is, it's not the ships fault, it's your lack of experience. EVERYONE loses ships. And as mentioned the point is not to fly ships you can't afford to lose. Stay in the brutix, get a myrmid. Learn how the game works. Learn how to avoid roaming gangs and how the game works. What ships you can take in a brutix or myrmid, which ones you can't. Then evaluate the Eos. Is it that much better than the brutix or myrmid for the task at hand that you're ready to spend 4-5 times the cost of one? There is no such thing as a low budget Eos. There's no defendable way of fitting one out badly, and the nerf itself was so horridly minor to the problem with people with... unconventional fittings. I'm not saying yours was, or that you don't know how to fit one out - but there is something wrong in your way of looking at the game. Is it a friendly game? No, not at all. Is a large portion of the joys in game causing missery of the next pilot? Yes. As for the Jita issue, yes, Jita is a lagfest, sadly. And there's still no good ways of fixing it, known to mankind. However, if you hate it that much, why do you keep your medical clone there? You were just podded, that means you can podjump yourself back to your system. Get a new medical clone, move it to the office closest to home and self destruct your pod. Speaking of e-peens. I can't even fly an Eos. Speaking of Quitting ISK. There are quite a number of this kind of posts each day. Small sums add up. Who was saying I lacked experience? Just because I have been away didnt mean I dont know how to outfit one, or fly one. I just rolled the dice that I wouldnt be bothered and lost, happens. Still doesnt take away from the fact its irritating as hell. As far as me moving my clone, I will do that sometime soon, but moving it to 0.0 defeats the purpose of having it where its at. BTW 250 dollars and you will be able to fly a Eos or Astarte with a little work.
Dromidas Shadowmoon Minmatar Uraniumcore	Posted - 2007.12.07 23:42:00 - [25] If by useless you mean inline with all of the other races offensive capabilities then yes, it's as "useless" as all the other fleet commandships now.
NoNah	Posted - 2007.12.07 23:49:00 - [26] Originally by: Businessman Bob Who was saying I lacked experience? Just because I have been away didnt mean I dont know how to outfit one, or fly one. I just rolled the dice that I wouldnt be bothered and lost, happens. Still doesnt take away from the fact its irritating as hell. As far as me moving my clone, I will do that sometime soon, but moving it to 0.0 defeats the purpose of having it where its at. BTW 250 dollars and you will be able to fly a Eos or Astarte with a little work. I am the one saying you lack experience. I did however not say you don't know how to fly or outfit one. I did also say that if you find it this irritating you lack... experience. Sooner or later a shiploss won't hurt very much, and you will either have left the game or enjoy losing ships - in a way. As for your last despicable line... 250 dollars would get me drunk. Possibly some more RAM aswell. Then again, if you spend your real life money buying characters and ships, wether legal or not - I'd say you've missed the point, idea and rules of the game by well a constellation. Postcount: 233279
omiNATION Gallente Vanguard of the Ouroboros Nation	Posted - 2007.12.07 23:54:00 - [27] WTB Eos 10 mil [sig] EVE, basically an MMORPG with prison rules. [/sig]
Hephaesteus Gallente	Posted - 2007.12.08 00:08:00 - [28] Edited by: Hephaesteus on 08/12/2007 00:08:51 Eos was a great ship but now it just sucks. The only positive I can see will be the up and coming buff it is bound to get.
Radcjk Caldari Dark Star LTD Atrocitas	Posted - 2007.12.08 00:21:00 - [29] Oh noes, my uber command ship solopwnmobile got nerfed into what it should have been.... heavily tanked beast sporting multiple gang mods for gang combat support. Cry...and then cry some more. Its now further inline with ships of its specific class. I guess Gallente aren't CCP's chosen ones any longer.
Acoco Osiris Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.12.08 00:25:00 - [30] I wonder. Is anyone whining about the multiple-Eos nerf strictly because they lost their solo 'pwnmobile? Or is it mostly because the Eos pilots weren't given anything really to compensate for it? Like maybe a tank and gang links comparable to the other races' fleet commands? Or maybe even the idea floated by some members of the community to give it a logistics drone bonus?

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