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Reticenti
The Antilles Legion Quantum Star Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.08 00:16:00 -
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Edited by: Reticenti on 08/12/2007 00:17:40
Originally by: RhadamanthineSpifflicate A few things here:
1) I have no idea what the term troll means.
2) This is not a whine. I am not crying about the loss. In fact I laughed and chatted with the players for quite some time after.
3) CCP could improve the deterrent in the way I describe and it would have an impact on those who are exploiting a game mechanic.
4) I am handicapped as an mmorpg non player... I do not have and will never have the speed and skill at game combat, but in the real world fighting is one of my strengths.
5) what I wrote about was merely a suggestion. I have no feelings on this at all. I could care less, but not by much.
6) I already replaced the mods and will be donating others as I have to many fortunate prats in the past.
Fly safe and enjoy
1. trolling is basically posting something with no real content. 2. If this isnt a whine, what is it then? 3. This is NOT an exploit, if it was, he would be banned, and i would be a high elf with pointy ears 4. RL threats, however, are against the EULA, and if you didn't make a threat, then what does this have to do with internet spaceships? 5. You dont care about this, yet you spend lots of time preparing this post, and commenting on it? 6. If you've replaced them since you have many fortunes, why do you need it replaced by CCP?
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.12.08 00:16:00 -
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Originally by: RhadamanthineSpifflicate 1) I have no idea what the term troll means.
Perhaps. Perhaps.
Originally by: RhadamanthineSpifflicate 2) This is not a whine. I am not crying about the loss. In fact I laughed and chatted with the players for quite some time after.
I did notice a strange lack of whine in this thread. Hmm...
Originally by: RhadamanthineSpifflicate 3) CCP could improve the deterrent in the way I describe and it would have an impact on those who are exploiting a game mechanic.
It's not an exploit, it is working as intended, if it wasn't they would change it. Note to self: Make sig about definition of 'exploit' -
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Kirjava
Lothian Quay Industries Zzz
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Posted - 2007.12.08 00:18:00 -
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Internal memmo to Crumplecorn - make sig about boot.ini Rate my charecters please, updated so need 3 more, 2M isk for each good review |

Grimpak
Gallente Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2007.12.08 00:20:00 -
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Originally by: RhadamanthineSpifflicate A few things here:
1) I have no idea what the term troll means.
2) This is not a whine. I am not crying about the loss. In fact I laughed and chatted with the players for quite some time after.
3) CCP could improve the deterrent in the way I describe and it would have an impact on those who are exploiting a game mechanic.
4) I am handicapped as an mmorpg non player... I do not have and will never have the speed and skill at game combat, but in the real world fighting is one of my strengths.
5) what I wrote about was merely a suggestion. I have no feelings on this at all. I could care less, but not by much.
6) I already replaced the mods and will be donating others as I have to many fortunate prats in the past.
Fly safe and enjoy
this deterrement is good enough as a part of the learning curve that EVE has. It is also dire warning that in EVE, the only one that provides saftety is yourself. CONCORD just provides consequence to whoever breaks the law. ---
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.12.08 00:21:00 -
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Originally by: Kirjava Internal memmo to Crumplecorn - make sig about boot.ini
Internal memo to Kirjava - Considered it, everyone is doing it, therefore rejected for unoriginality. Sig about people jumping on bandwagons is a possibility though. -
I wish I was a three foot female doll with a watering can and heterochromatic eyes. |

Mark Lucius
The Vinlanders SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.08 00:22:00 -
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Hi OP. I have some information that you may find useful here. Hope this will help you on your quest.
Fly safe. ---

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RhadamanthineSpifflicate
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Posted - 2007.12.08 00:23:00 -
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The word exploit has a different meaning to gamers... as I said I am not a gamer... exploit means to take advantage and does not imply something wrong.
I do not know what troll means.
I don't but isk I work my ass off and have lost many ships and mods playing this game.
I have no interest in whining... I erroneously thought I could participate in an intelligent discussion on the suggestion but perhaps I should read more of the forums since it is obvious the rooms are not for intelligent discussion but rather insults and accusations when some one brings up something that attacks your precious sensibilities..
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.12.08 00:27:00 -
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This is brought up constantly and attacks a fundamental point of EVE, which is that nowhere is completely safe. It is not received well, whether it was intended to be a troll or not. -
I wish I was a three foot female doll with a watering can and heterochromatic eyes. |

Reticenti
The Antilles Legion Quantum Star Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.08 00:28:00 -
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Edited by: Reticenti on 08/12/2007 00:28:14
Originally by: RhadamanthineSpifflicate The word exploit has a different meaning to gamers... as I said I am not a gamer... exploit means to take advantage and does not imply something wrong.
I do not know what troll means.
I don't but isk I work my ass off and have lost many ships and mods playing this game.
I have no interest in whining... I erroneously thought I could participate in an intelligent discussion on the suggestion but perhaps I should read more of the forums since it is obvious the rooms are not for intelligent discussion but rather insults and accusations when some one brings up something that attacks your precious sensibilities..
Welcome to the eve-o forums. If you had read my response, you would have known what trolling is. Or you could have educated yourself, and used either this great tool called http://www.google.com or http://www.urbandictionary.com.
The reason why this post has had harsh replies is because this post has been done so many times, people just don't want to hear about it any longer, and if your idea does go through, many, many, MANY people will quit eve because this is one of the things that makes eve unique and great.
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Anaalys Fluuterby
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.12.08 00:28:00 -
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Edited by: Anaalys Fluuterby on 08/12/2007 00:29:27
Originally by: RhadamanthineSpifflicate
I have no interest in whining... I erroneously thought I could participate in an intelligent discussion on the suggestion
you unfortunately brought up a subject that has been posted about a dozen times a week for the last several years. It doesn't receive intelligent answers because most people are tired of hearing about it (not your fault, of course)....
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but perhaps I should read more of the forums since it is obvious the rooms are not for intelligent discussion but rather insults and accusations when some one brings up something that attacks your precious sensibilities..
THAT is the action that we call trolling 
Originally by: CCP Chronotis
Since this thread continues to fight against the people who derail it into the macro miners witchhunt. I will move it to features and ideas discussion where ...
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RhadamanthineSpifflicate
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Posted - 2007.12.08 00:29:00 -
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I appreciate the error I made in carrying those mods in a flimsy ship... I know the loss was my fault. I accept it 100%.
I like the game and, for the most part, the people in it... although there seem to be a lot of people ready to attack behind the SAFETY of their keyboards who wouldn't be so inclined in RL.
this has been fun... Thanks for the good advice and the multiple links to the definitive word on playing it safer in SAFE space.
cheers... and since I like to take calculated risks as well and often venture into those risky areas of the game... and end up in good conversations with the players that have blown my ships up and reaped great mods... some of you may find yourselves locking on to one of my ships.
P.S. I like to turn down the lights just before the hull breaches to get the full effect of my ship exploding
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Kirjava
Lothian Quay Industries Zzz
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Posted - 2007.12.08 00:30:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Kirjava Internal memmo to Crumplecorn - make sig about boot.ini
Internal memo to Kirjava - Considered it, everyone is doing it, therefore rejected for unoriginality. Sig about people jumping on bandwagons is a possibility though.
Internal memo received - noted that there appears to be no sigs concerning the star aka Jovian cropcircle, possible original material Rate my charecters please, updated so need 3 more, 2M isk for each good review |

Reticenti
The Antilles Legion Quantum Star Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.08 00:30:00 -
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Originally by: RhadamanthineSpifflicate
this has been fun... Thanks for the good advice and the multiple links to the definitive word on playing it safer in SAFE space.
You still dont ******* get it do you :facepalm:
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RhadamanthineSpifflicate
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Posted - 2007.12.08 00:33:00 -
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Point well taken... I SHOULD read the forums. Was not aware of the crap posted on this issue.
I tried to read everything that was posted and missed some of the links... I will have to go back because I still don't know what troll is.
Cheers all... I hope you enjoyed the smack down... you folks are good..
lol
Eve rocks
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.12.08 00:33:00 -
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Originally by: Kirjava
Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Kirjava Internal memmo to Crumplecorn - make sig about boot.ini
Internal memo to Kirjava - Considered it, everyone is doing it, therefore rejected for unoriginality. Sig about people jumping on bandwagons is a possibility though.
Internal memo received - noted that there appears to be no sigs concerning the star aka Jovian cropcircle, possible original material
Received. Noted that there appears to be a reason for this, as its just an extra star we know nothing about. Thanks for the suggestion though. Over. -
I wish I was a three foot female doll with a watering can and heterochromatic eyes. |

Kolmogorow
Freedom Resources
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Posted - 2007.12.08 00:33:00 -
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Originally by: RhadamanthineSpifflicate ...while I was autopilot flying through secure space and had to go to the toilet...
Some parts of EVE are simply unplayable without being afk. And it is quite reasonable to do something better while the ship is flying from lag to lag in the background. So docking is not an option because it is the same lost time as sitting at the keyboard to click warp to zero only because it is not automated as it should be.
If the game were completely designed by all those afk enemies we probably had all the night and day to sit in front of our manufacturing jobs and to click every 2 minutes on some "please proceed" button.
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RhadamanthineSpifflicate
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Posted - 2007.12.08 00:35:00 -
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you have my attention Reticenti... what is it you think I should get!
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Reticenti
The Antilles Legion Quantum Star Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.08 00:35:00 -
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Originally by: RhadamanthineSpifflicate I still don't know what troll is.
epic failure i dont even know why im linking you this, you can find it own your own
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trolling
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Reticenti
The Antilles Legion Quantum Star Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.08 00:37:00 -
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Edited by: Reticenti on 08/12/2007 00:37:48
Originally by: RhadamanthineSpifflicate you have my attention Reticenti... what is it you think I should get!
safe space has NEVER been, nor ever will be SAFE, it merely has harsher consequences for breaking the law than low sec, and null sec
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RhadamanthineSpifflicate
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Posted - 2007.12.08 00:41:00 -
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I finally was able to go back and read your post Reticenti... I do get it. Thank you.
in response to the threat you alluded to it was not a threat but merely a counter to the label and behaviour of labeling carebears - marginalizing and invalidating a persons opinion based on stereotyping.
like in real life if you are insulting people will respond in kind.
In case you have not noticed I am an avid writer and enjoyed composing and learning here... doesn't have to be a whine
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Spartan Industries Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.12.08 00:44:00 -
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Originally by: RhadamanthineSpifflicate I should read more of the forums since it is obvious the rooms are not for intelligent discussion but rather insults and accusations when some one brings up something that attacks your precious sensibilities..
Your name...you are a spliff head Intelligence is not to be mistaken for being stoned
Also ..you buy isk.
Have a good day..ebayer 
[04:58:57] Azzloran > ever heard of a drake? you wont like them when they decloak on you |

RhadamanthineSpifflicate
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Posted - 2007.12.08 00:45:00 -
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I did say right form the beginning that I this is the first and only game I have ever played... I do not know the terminology or the unique attitudes... to a lay person outsider this community is very hostile and intolerant of those not part of the group.
I have learned from this.
Thank you for your time
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Reticenti
The Antilles Legion Quantum Star Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.08 00:48:00 -
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Originally by: RhadamanthineSpifflicate I did say right form the beginning that I this is the first and only game I have ever played... I do not know the terminology or the unique attitudes... to a lay person outsider this community is very hostile and intolerant of those not part of the group.
I have learned from this.
Thank you for your time
The eve-o forums are hostile towards most topics, but mostly because it's open range for people to vent and rant. Try http://www.scrapheap-challenge.com/index.php for a much better eve community. It actually has real mods that mod because they care about the community.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Spartan Industries Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.12.08 00:50:00 -
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Originally by: RhadamanthineSpifflicate unique attitudes... to a lay person outsider this community is very hostile and intolerant of those not part of the group.
I have learned from this.
Thank you for your time
Unique attitudes?!...you screwed up, due to your own ignorance. These are not unique attitudes, it's called common sense.
The only thing you have learned from this..is that your holier than thou attitude is about as much use in a game as it is in real life.
Get out more 
[04:58:57] Azzloran > ever heard of a drake? you wont like them when they decloak on you |

RhadamanthineSpifflicate
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Posted - 2007.12.08 00:54:00 -
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That is spiff licate not spliff... both rhadamanthine and spifflicate are english words whose means you may look up.
it is a contraction.
Please refrain from insults and expressing conjecture as fact.
I trade, mine and manufacture.. from time to time I mission run and have been playing this game for over 3 yrs without ever encountering a gank anywhere but in 0.4 or lower.
Much like an earlier poster I have played this game without encountering pvp except in places that I went knowing it would be there... and have enjoyed that aspect although I always lose the ship and many times woke up a clone.
I spend very little time on the forums and know the things I have done well and not much beyond that... still new to much of this despite years of playing it
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RhadamanthineSpifflicate
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Posted - 2007.12.08 00:58:00 -
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what I have learned Flinx is that you are trolling. Stop with the attacks and insults
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LUGAL MOP'N'GLO
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Posted - 2007.12.08 01:00:00 -
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Originally by: RhadamanthineSpifflicate So eve should not be a multifaceted product with gameplay for many different types of players. It is and should always be a place for pvpers to run free and feed off those who don't spend years sharpening their skills in player vs player combat.
I don't consider training for Transports a choice remotely related to PVP combat do you? ~~~~~~~~~ Hi. I'm Rock. Make Eve good for rock. Give me scissor arms! |

Bimjo
Caldari SKULLDOGS
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Posted - 2007.12.08 01:02:00 -
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EVE, Game = best game ever EVE, Forums = worst I have ever come across, you guys suck big time
and the PvPers in EVE are the biggest whiners of them all ! ! ! at the first sign of attempted "game balancing" by CCP that doesn't suit them, they all come crying on here
no, my stuff is mine and you can't have it
Q6600,8800 Ultra SLI, Vista 32, 4Gig RAM , G15 , TripleHead2Go, Raptor X |

RhadamanthineSpifflicate
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Posted - 2007.12.08 01:03:00 -
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good point.. i have seen the error in many of the things I have posted... you are quite right... training transpaorts has nothing to do with pvp... the thing was I chose not to fly a big heavy ship because I knew I was hitting the can and didn't want the slow impulse speed trip for the last 15kms... I went for speed... and speed kills if you are also flimsy and not around.. cheers
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LUGAL MOP'N'GLO
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Posted - 2007.12.08 01:06:00 -
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Originally by: RhadamanthineSpifflicate good point.. i have seen the error in many of the things I have posted... you are quite right... training transpaorts has nothing to do with pvp... the thing was I chose not to fly a big heavy ship because I knew I was hitting the can and didn't want the slow impulse speed trip for the last 15kms... I went for speed... and speed kills if you are also flimsy and not around.. cheers
Get a blockade runner (for caldari, see the "Crane"). They are fast, have good resistances and built in warp core stabilization. ~~~~~~~~~ Hi. I'm Rock. Make Eve good for rock. Give me scissor arms! |
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