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VicturusTeSaluto	Posted - 2007.12.09 03:32:00 - [61] In before ISD fruitbar locks this. I do think CCP is at this time too focused on making money by making their(********) customers happy. They listen to all the caldari forum whiners that don't even understand the basic game mechanics. But that is their choice, if you don't like it you are not forced to play eve.
LvxAeterna GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.09 04:09:00 - [62] I hate to burst your bubble OP, but in the free world, all corporations exist for the sole purpose of accumulating wealth. If they don't, they will fail.
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.12.09 04:30:00 - [63] Originally by: LvxAeterna I hate to burst your bubble OP, but in the free world, all corporations exist for the sole purpose of accumulating wealth. If they don't, they will fail. Y'know, there are these organizations that function just fine, and don't exist for the sole purpose of accumulating wealth. I forget the name... OP's still a tinfoil hatter of the moonbattiest variety. CCP with **** Cheney at the helm would still be two steps behind EA and the Blizzard/Vivendi/Activision abomination.
Gamer4liff Caldari Metalworks THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY	Posted - 2007.12.09 04:37:00 - [64] Edited by: Gamer4liff on 09/12/2007 04:38:15 you can't put a $ in CCP like you can in Micro$oft =(. Not only that but I play fine with one account I pay for using GTCS bought with manufacturing profit.
LvxAeterna GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.09 04:38:00 - [65] Originally by: Amarria Black Originally by: LvxAeterna I hate to burst your bubble OP, but in the free world, all corporations exist for the sole purpose of accumulating wealth. If they don't, they will fail. Y'know, there are these organizations that function just fine, and don't exist for the sole purpose of accumulating wealth. I forget the name... OP's still a tinfoil hatter of the moonbattiest variety. CCP with **** Cheney at the helm would still be two steps behind EA and the Blizzard/Vivendi/Activision abomination. I'm not sure what you're getting at, but you did read where I said "corporations" in plain English.
Erotic Irony 0bsession	Posted - 2007.12.09 05:01:00 - [66] Originally by: Jory I am not the only one who feels CCP is a corrupt company only out to make money. They continually ignore the request of the people. They continually make this a game that can not be played with only one account. They force you to pay $14.99 extra a month in order to reap the full benefits of the game. One may say that there are 200,000 players but that is a joke. Soon anyone who continues to play this game will have more than one account. In OTHER words this is a FREE TO PLAY game with a monthly subscription. I say free to play because we all know those games are not free, the rich players buy the items that others canÆt afford giving them an edge. In this case the bought items are time. The time I waist to go back and get a hauler just to pickup my loot. Stop nerfing solo players you greedy bastar#$ first you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
Kadoes Khan	Posted - 2007.12.09 05:27:00 - [67] Originally by: Jory I am not the only one who feels CCP is a corrupt company only out to make money. They continually ignore the request of the people. They continually make this a game that can not be played with only one account. They force you to pay $14.99 extra a month in order to reap the full benefits of the game. One may say that there are 200,000 players but that is a joke. Soon anyone who continues to play this game will have more than one account. In OTHER words this is a FREE TO PLAY game with a monthly subscription. I say free to play because we all know those games are not free, the rich players buy the items that others canÆt afford giving them an edge. In this case the bought items are time. The time I waist to go back and get a hauler just to pickup my loot. Stop nerfing solo players you greedy bastar#$ CCP is no more greedy than you are, else you wouldn't care so much. -=^=- "Someday the world will recognize the genius in my insanity."
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.12.09 05:52:00 - [68] Originally by: LvxAeterna Originally by: Amarria Black Originally by: LvxAeterna I hate to burst your bubble OP, but in the free world, all corporations exist for the sole purpose of accumulating wealth. If they don't, they will fail. Y'know, there are these organizations that function just fine, and don't exist for the sole purpose of accumulating wealth. I forget the name... OP's still a tinfoil hatter of the moonbattiest variety. CCP with **** Cheney at the helm would still be two steps behind EA and the Blizzard/Vivendi/Activision abomination. I'm not sure what you're getting at, but you did read where I said "corporations" in plain English. Non-profits can still incorporate, and quite a few do.
Thaanvanite Minmatar ACCORD Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.09 06:19:00 - [69] Anyone who can't play the game with only one character isn't trying hard enough
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.12.09 06:29:00 - [70] Jory do you need a hug? Originally by: Cecil Montague They should change that warning on entering low sec to: "Go read Crime and Punishment for a few days then come back."
Stefx Gallente Moons of Pluto	Posted - 2007.12.09 06:30:00 - [71] Originally by: Jory I am not the only one who feels CCP is a company out to make money. You're right. Because you're right, you will: 1-stop playing Eve 2-never buy anything from a company trying to make money 3-not respond to this post because you are right and you quit Eve. If you reply, it means you have not quit Eve, you contradict your own opinion, and therefore your opinion becomes worthless and should not have been expressed at all. ----------- MOP recruiting Industrialists/miners/traders/missioners/etc
Estephania	Posted - 2007.12.09 07:23:00 - [72] Edited by: Estephania on 09/12/2007 07:24:34 Simple question here for the fanbois: If it's so nice and easy to play with one account, why so many players have 2,3 or even more accounts with only purpose of making ISK with them? Have you ever heard about players that can suck the asteroid belt dry with their Hulks in minutes? About players who have 2,3 accounts for RP grinding? About cynonets? Refining, production, trading alts? Why do they exist if it's so nice to play with one account? May be because there are things that you can not do with one account, or that you will have to train everything on that account and still you won't be able to be in all paces at once and do what they do? Eve is a very competitive game and in the end you're competing against those players, now tell me you are not handicapped here. Why there are so many activities that look like they are especially designed for multi-account owners? Who will have a RP grinding main? Or a trading main that never undocks? Or hauling main that only flies that fat freighter from point A to point B? Or main that only installs and delivers manufacturing jobs?
Verlaine Glariant Knights of the Flame Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.12.09 07:35:00 - [73] Edited by: Verlaine Glariant on 09/12/2007 07:45:00 Quote: OP needs to delete his boot.ini. Also: Originally by: "Stefx" You're right. Because you're right, you will: 1-stop playing Eve 2-never buy anything from a company trying to make money 3-not respond to this post because you are right and you quit Eve. If you reply, it means you have not quit Eve, you contradict your own opinion, and therefore your opinion becomes worthless and should not have been expressed at all. Therefore: Quote: Can I have your stuff? Verlaine Glariant. Tactical Weapons Specialist.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.12.09 07:35:00 - [74] Originally by: Estephania Why there are so many activities that look like they are especially designed for multi-account owners? Because its a MMORPG. And they are designed to be done with friends. Originally by: Estephania Who will have a RP grinding main? Or a trading main that never undocks? Or hauling main that only flies that fat freighter from point A to point B? Or main that only installs and delivers manufacturing jobs? Me actually. My main doesn't trade (my alt does XD), but my main has in the past grinded for RPs, hauled stuff (though not in a freighter) from A to B over and over (for weeks, solo, in 0.0), and currently my main only sits in a station and installs and delivers manufacturing jobs (while my alt sits in a station and buys/sells materials/products). So, does it mess up your rant that someone actually does the things you say no-one does, or did you accept that you were wrong before you even posted? - DesuSigs
Estephania	Posted - 2007.12.09 07:47:00 - [75] No, I was not wrong. The fact that most Eve players have more than one account proves it. They don't have that another account for the pure love for the game. They have it because it makes the game easier for them. There are ppl who enjoy something that most ppl aren't, there are exceptions, but they only support the rule. The fact that you do it with your main doesn't mean that everybody else does it with their mains. In fact, everyone I know do it with their alts. And ,most ppl I know have alts because they need a lot of ISK not to be limited in PvP options. Some play to have fat wallet, and here alts come handy too. You can't deny after all that 9 characters grinding for RP will grind more RP than one character, and it will result in more ISK for the owner of multiple accounts. You can say that you can go from NYC to LA by foot, but most ppl will use cars for that. Same is here, you can be very successful with one accounts, but vast majority of successful players will use several accounts to give them an edge.
Erotic Irony 0bsession	Posted - 2007.12.09 07:50:00 - [76] Crumple & esteph: feedback here nao ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
Morn Judith Caldari Incognito Inc	Posted - 2007.12.09 07:50:00 - [77] Originally by: SnakeByte86 Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Originally by: Jory Edited by: Jory on 09/12/2007 02:19:27 Originally by: Admiral Pelleon [Hey, guess what. You can always leave. You know, stop letting them "steal" your money. Troll. I just love CCP dogs, there just loyal servants You know, there are plenty of these "dogs" as you are calling us. And you can always leave you know. I promise I wont miss you. Dogs are colorblind, ccp fanbois are simply blind. You are of a lowerclass than dogs, and this is coming from a former fanboi. Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa here turbo! That's some pretty degrading talk you've got going on here. I understand what you're saying, but I think you're better off settling this on the playground during recess if you're stooping to that level. What exactly is your definition of a "CCP fanbois"? Some one that rebuttals the attacks against CCP? Is it someone that trolls threads discussing problems? Or is it someone that pays a monthly subscription to a company to play their online, imaginary space game and post on their internet forums? /emote points to SnakeByte66 and everyone else in this thread. If you hate the "CCP fanbois" so much, why on God's green Earth are you still giving them your money??? This is an honest question, not an attempt to troll. Originally by: Tarminic I WANT A THRONE MADE OF MY OWN CORPSES.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.12.09 07:54:00 - [78] Originally by: Estephania No, I was not wrong. The fact that most Eve players have more than one account proves it. They don't have that another account for the pure love for the game. They have it because it makes the game easier for them. There are ppl who enjoy something that most ppl aren't, there are exceptions, but they only support the rule. The fact that you do it with your main doesn't mean that everybody else does it with their mains. In fact, everyone I know do it with their alts. And ,most ppl I know have alts because they need a lot of ISK not to be limited in PvP options. Some play to have fat wallet, and here alts come handy too. You can't deny after all that 9 characters grinding for RP will grind more RP than one character, and it will result in more ISK for the owner of multiple accounts. You can say that you can go from NYC to LA by foot, but most ppl will use cars for that. Same is here, you can be very successful with one accounts, but vast majority of successful players will use several accounts to give them an edge. Pretty much everyone I've ever known in game didn't have alts, didn't PvP, and did what they did to enjoy the game, not just make money or whatever. I guess we just knew different groups of people. - DesuSigs
Sergeant Spot Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.12.09 07:59:00 - [79] In response to the OP. Long ago, I played an On-line space pew pew game named "Mankind". It was created and run by a company called "Vibes". Having dealt with Vibes, I find it impossible to be upset with CCP. Trust me, CCP does NOT even come close to ignoring player concerns. Play nice while you butcher each other.
Heten Oviri	Posted - 2007.12.09 08:01:00 - [80] Originally by: SnakeByte86 QFT. If eve was pro gameplay, they would have gotten rid of sellers and farmers years ago, but they make CCP money, so why get rid of them? CCP = SOE and EA games. The antichrist Too much hassle and a big drain on the resources. Instead they focus their time and resources going after ISK buyers who created this market in the first place. As they should be doing.
Missy X	Posted - 2007.12.09 08:03:00 - [81] Rant threads are not allowed. Locked. Oh... oops I forgot, I'm not a moderator. Damnit.
Estephania	Posted - 2007.12.09 08:12:00 - [82] Originally by: Crumplecorn Pretty much everyone I've ever known in game didn't have alts, didn't PvP, and did what they did to enjoy the game, not just make money or whatever. I guess we just knew different groups of people. This is strange. I guess you're in a unique group. On the other hand, I can say that in every corp I was, most ppl owned more than one account. Yes, some wanted that capital ship account, or account specialized in another race ships, they wanted to enjoy the game from different perspective. But the majority just used their alts to earn even more ISK or move capital ships. I've known someone who had PvP main and 3 alts with Hulks to support his PvP, many ppl do invention on their alts when their main can spend loads of ISK buying stuff for his pew pew fun. How long will it take you to recuperate after, lets say, command ship loss if you have only one account? Back to grinding for how long? But if you have ISK pumping alts, nothing happened, you're in the new Command ship the very next morning.
SnakeByte86	Posted - 2007.12.09 09:37:00 - [83] Edited by: SnakeByte86 on 09/12/2007 09:37:34 Originally by: xStormwingx CCP wants money? my God, who would've thought... Ahh, EVE patches. Internet natural selection at its finest (or at least close). Actually, EVE patches are more like the opposite of natural selection. The smartest, fittest, strongest leave. The blind, the weak, and the addicted stay.
SnakeByte86	Posted - 2007.12.09 09:42:00 - [84] Originally by: Heten Oviri Originally by: SnakeByte86 QFT. If eve was pro gameplay, they would have gotten rid of sellers and farmers years ago, but they make CCP money, so why get rid of them? CCP = SOE and EA games. The antichrist Too much hassle and a big drain on the resources. Instead they focus their time and resources going after ISK buyers who created this market in the first place. As they should be doing. But they dont, it is common knowledge isk buyers are not banned, they are just fined the isk they bought, they will often buy more isk to replace it, if you can afford to buy isk, you can afford to buy more isk if you lose the first.
SnakeByte86	Posted - 2007.12.09 09:43:00 - [85] Originally by: Stefx Originally by: Jory I am not the only one who feels CCP is a company out to make money. You're right. Because you're right, you will: 1-stop playing Eve 2-never buy anything from a company trying to make money 3-not respond to this post because you are right and you quit Eve. If you reply, it means you have not quit Eve, you contradict your own opinion, and therefore your opinion becomes worthless and should not have been expressed at all. Just for the record, i havnt bought a EA game's game in 4 years. Specifically because of the way they treat their customers, and dont listen or help customers. That is my choice, this also goes for Microsoft, and blizzard. I never wanted CCP to get on that list, Eve of 03-05 era was my favorite game of all time, since then eve has been trash, and people dont seem to care.
Flex Carter Caldari Caldari Independant Mining Association	Posted - 2007.12.09 09:51:00 - [86] The OP mustÆve had few supports to make it a 3 pagerà But itÆs the Fanbois peek hour nowà
Mikel Crenshaw Minmatar Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.12.09 10:10:00 - [87] Quote: The smartest, fittest, strongest leave. The blind, the weak, and the addicted stay. So is there a reason you're still here? You know in my day people stopped paying for something they weren't satisfied with. Now people seem to delight in spending their money just to have the right to complain. Are you the kind of person who buys concert tickets just to heckle the band by any chance? Whatever, it's your money and you can go about wasting it on things that only seem to infuriate you, though it seems a horrible way to spend one's time. I myself am quite satisfied with the game, thus CCP continue to get the money for my one account. Simple as that, the day I don't find it to be worth it I quit. --------------------- "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."
Elliot Reid Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.12.09 10:51:00 - [88] Yep they are so cash greedy they don't charge for expansions when most, if not all, other mmo companies charge for them. ******* capitalist, working man treading on, right wing, Margaret Thatcher supporting, General Pinochet loving, Tory financing bastards. __________________________________
Sae Sato Amarr The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2007.12.09 11:35:00 - [89] The bigger 'issue', as per your definition, is how much time a person has to play Eve. Time = ISK. I don't think the number of accounts matters that much, but time definitely does. Of course it's unfair, but what does CCP have to do with it?
Kurogauna	Posted - 2007.12.09 11:41:00 - [90] Quote: Something tells me CCP aren't a particuly profit high company... so I see needing two accounts for certain things being better then the other options for moar money. Yeah there is worse than ccp. I don't see advertising on every video game review sites. I don't see redondant reviews on video game sites I don't see big flashy tags for GTC in the supermarket. There is no super game guide 250 pages / 25$ outdated after the next patch. Not that much eve related content on the news paper (think wow) No hollywoodian supertrailers to hide the crapy graphics (think wow again) Devs don't have white teeth, don't have costumes and they drink beer intead of mineral water. In the other hand, i don't like automatic payment methods (fixed). Most of us needs 2 accounts to do metagaming. Need an investment of +/- 120$ (8 month x 15$)to really enjoy roaming pvp. ------------------------------------------------ Dont like baby blue ? Tell it to the devs HERE, Thanx.

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