The hell is WoD anyway?

It was an interesting thing to be watching from the sidelines, as it were, while at Trion. To see CCP react, to see Hilmar and others own up to a sense that the community has something to say, and that against a backdrop of Arab uprisings in the Middle East, weGÇÖve got Occupy Wall Street, and weGÇÖve got EVE Online. Where else does this happen in the online world?

[quote=ElQuirko]The hell is WoD anyway?

David Reid brings a diverse amount of experience to CCPGÇÖs helm, including tours in the Middle East and Korea as a US Army Officer, a Wharton MBA, and a resume including marketing experience at such heavyweights as Microsoft (where he headed up launch marketing for the Xbox 360), NCsoft, Trion, and GameTap.

So which one of you have better quallies and experience than this dude?

With DUST 514 shipping this year, with bringing in the tens of millions of people that play shooters on PSN into the New Eden universe, EVE could be the biggest game in the world at the end of 2012.

Uhm.


All of us, apparently.

CCP Hellmar... stop running your company into the ground. If you want success today, you MUST specialize in something. Stick with what you know, and do it better than anyone else.

Eve is what made you. NEVER forget that.

My recommendation to you is give CCP one focus, one goal.

Sell off WoD NOW.

"The general who advances without coveting fame and retreats without fearing disgrace, whose only thought is to protect his country and do good service for his sovereign, is the jewel of the kingdom."
-Sun Tzu

Eve is your country, your kingdom.
Serve her well.

CCP Hellmar... stop running your company into the ground. If you want success today, you MUST specialize in something. Stick with what you know, and do it better than anyone else.

Eve is what made you. NEVER forget that.

My recommendation to you is give CCP one focus, one goal.

Sell off WoD NOW.

"The general who advances without coveting fame and retreats without fearing disgrace, whose only thought is to protect his country and do good service for his sovereign, is the jewel of the kingdom."
-Sun Tzu

Eve is your country, your kingdom.
Serve her well.

Uhm.


All of us, apparently.

Eve is what made you. NEVER forget that.

I have to agree with the above sentiment.

Using the same principals and tech that EVE has to create another MMO universe is smart... always has been. It's simply the same tech and methodology applied to a different genre.

They are sticking with what they do best in this case... DUST is much more of a reach for them than WOD will ever be. Even on that front, you'll notice that DUST uses many mechanics that are virtually (pun intended) identical to EVE.. just translated into something that will work on a console.

There is wisdom in diversifying your offers while still working from a well tested base... and while troll speak calls it "using EVE as a beta for WOD" in truth sharing common tech for all of their offerings is simply efficient use of resources.

So which one of you have better quallies and experience than this dude?

I would like it more that EVE is used as beta and keep that technology for its growth too then that EVE don't get anything from that development.
Some ppl think that if EVE don't get WiS that there will be more DEVs for FiS... maybe few, yes, but they will build that tech regardless will it be used in EVE or not. So... lest use the best of CCP have - all of it.

He's a marketing guy. I never said he was a bad marketing guy, in fact comparing the extremely noticeable differences in tone between Hilmar and David shows you that Hilmar should, frankly, not be doing interviews. David's job is to promote the company and all its products, and I have no doubt that he's a heavy-hitter.

That said, the warrior-worshiping culture of the US doesn't translate well elsewhere, so few are going to be impressed by his history of travelling overseas and shooting people, or more likely as an officer sending others to shoot people. Combine that with the mind-boggling decision to compare Eve players with the Occupy movement or the Arab Spring, and you start to see how skewed and naive this guy's understanding of his audience is.

I know his type, I work with them every day. They're very slick, very impressive.

They're also painfully shallow, deceitful, and disrespectful.

No good will come of this man marketing Eve Online, trust me.

With respect, I think you totally missed the point he was making... that being the vast differences between the things listed... he was not comparing them to each other.

By the way, military accomplishments and training don't impress the American people (or anyone else for that matter) simply because he may have fired a weapon at someone. Everything else that type of experience will have given him (training, discipline, leadership, perspective) however does. But apparently his military back ground is sufficient to cause you to interpret everything he said from a very, very skewed perspective.

Most resource developed that will benefit WOD or DUST are or will be of benefit in EVE as well.

If you'll think back, that has always been the plan. CCP has never been secretive on this subject.

Slaves.

Maybe what you should be asking is: How many people did they have working on it before the 20% cut? We were never told this, were we?

Edit: The Apostle back from the dead?

I think it will do fine.

But it seems the only people that know about Dust 514 are EVE Online players and I would bet that not a lot of EVE Online players own a PS3. CCP will have to really start advertising and fast to hope for a semi-successful game.

But it seems the only people that know about Dust 514 are EVE Online players and I would bet that not a lot of EVE Online players own a PS3. CCP will have to really start advertising and fast to hope for a semi-successful game.

So will WoD ship as another massively multiplayer single room per player game too? It would be even worse than the Eve CQ experience because you wouldn't even be able to see yourself in a mirror!

Issler

Comparing our online 'protests' to the Occupy or Middle East movements tells me what a naive person David Reid is.

We are a consumer base that needed to correct the faulty path of the product in which we all invested. They are fighting for their rights of life.

And, I'm sorry but DUST is only going to be selling so many copies because most people have refused to buy a PS3 or has already gotten rid of theirs. Again, a statement suggesting DUST may be the biggest game of 2012 based on naive hopes. It simply CAN'T be the biggest game because Sony is your developer. PC Gaming != Console Gaming.

I haven't even enlisted in the military and I'd say my outsider expectations are more grounded than CCP's new CMO.

EVE Online had once one of the best communities...

... now we have rotten spoiled brats with a false sense of entitlement whining on the forums because CCP dares to develop another game.

If you think a WoD MMO will be about sparkling twilight vampires then you have no clue and should STFU.

If you think that your monthly subscription entitles you to anything else but access to the game and think that CCP should stop developing anything other then FiS then you are delusional and should seek medical attention.

If you think that your monthly subscription entitles you to anything else but access to the game and think that CCP should stop developing anything other then FiS then you are delusional and should seek medical attention.

EVE could be the biggest game in the world at the end of 2012.

EVE Online had once one of the best communities...

... now we have rotten spoiled brats with a false sense of entitlement whining on the forums because CCP dares to develop another game.

If you think a WoD MMO will be about sparkling twilight vampires then you have no clue and should STFU.

If you think that your monthly subscription entitles you to anything else but access to the game and think that CCP should stop developing anything other then FiS then you are delusional and should seek medical attention.